Facebook, The App Store, And The Sound Of Inevitability
MG Siegler
May 1, 2010

That is the sound of inevitability…

I’m reminded of this quote from The Matrix as I read headline after headline around the blogosphere about how Facebook and Apple and their (at least relatively) closed ecosystems are going to destroy the fabric of the web as we know it. Me? I’m not worried in the slightest bit. Why? Because it occurs to me that what’s going on now is just a part of a cycle. A necessary cycle. Yes, the web (by which I mean the entire Internet), it seems to me, is cyclical.

Just as the United States goes through periods where conservatives being in power gives way to liberals being in power, the web is currently transitioning from open systems dominating to closed systems taking over. Nowhere is this more evident than with Apple’s App Store, and Facebook. The masses, for whatever reason (and there are reasons, more on that later), are embracing these restricted platforms. And obviously, it has some people scared shitless.

And while it’s good for some people to worry in order to keep the soon-to-be ruling powers in check, I’m certain that one day in a few years (or maybe less), we’ll be back to the so-called “open” web again. It has happened before. You don’t even have to go back that far to find it.

In the early 1990s there was no World Wide Web. Well, there was, but no one you know used it because there was no widely-used web browser. Instead, the Internet mainly existed as things such as Usenet, Gopher, and FTP. The system was open. Sure, there was some barriers to entry (such as a modem), but the real barrier to entry was that basically no one knew what “online” was, and even fewer knew how to get there.

Then the companies Prodigy, CompuServe, GEnie, and America Online came along. In 1991, all of these services worked on DOS (Microsoft’s operating system before Windows), and offered a relatively easy way to get online. More importantly, it gave them something to do there, such as read structured news in article form. But, in return for the ease-of-use, each of these services had access fees. This was a closing of the Internet — but people didn’t care. These services grew quickly.

None grew faster than AOL. A key aspect to their service was a nice user interface that anyone could understand (CompuServe, by comparison, was oriented more towards the tech community). They also put an emphasis on being able to communicate with other AOL members (but only other AOL members) through chat rooms. Usage quickly exploded. Again, a closed system.

The fact of the matter is that closed systems are useful in certain circumstances. One key one is mainstream appeal. AOL was appealing to people because it was easy to understand and seemed (relatively) safe. People started using Facebook because it was easy to understand and seemed (relatively) safe. People are now using the App Store because it is easy to understand and seems (relatively) safe. You get the picture.

This is the type of system needed to take mainstream adoption to the highest levels. (Notice I only said “take” not necessarily keep them there.)

Closed systems can also adapt and change faster than open systems. To return to politics for a second. It’s a bit like how a government under a King is more efficient that one under a Republic. Governing by committee is slow, a King can rule on something and it’s done. But yes, a King can also make mistakes faster — there are pluses and minuses.

This ties into what Joe Hewitt, the famed web/iPhone developer (now with Facebook), said yesterday in a long rant on Twitter against the current state of web development. “I want desperately to be a web developer again, but if I have to wait until 2020 for browsers to do what Cocoa can do in 2010, I won’t wait,” Hewitt said. His point is that the state of web languages as presided over by the W3C (the Republic) are moving too slow. Cocoa, a framework presided over by Apple (the King) is a good 10 years ahead of it.

Maybe Hewitt’s right, maybe he’s wrong, or maybe he’s just exaggerating. It doesn’t matter. The fact of the matter is that something will come along and force these closed systems open again — or they will perish.

Speaking of perishing, let’s go back to AOL. By the mid-1990s, it was dominating. Once they switched to a flat monthly fee (instead of an hourly fee — yes, they had that in place for a long time and people still used it) usage soared into the tens of millions. This may not seem like a lot when you consider that Facebook is approaching 500 million users, but this was a much different time. Many people signing up for AOL were using the Internet for the first time ever. By 2000, AOL was so powerful and had so much money thanks to its winning (again, closed) model that it actually bought Time Warner for $164 billion. Then everything started falling apart.

A few years earlier, AOL added a feature that would be its eventual downfall, the web browser. Yes, at one point in the 90s, a lot of people were browsing the web from within AOL’s walled-garden. But the web was open, and AOL didn’t block you from going anywhere on it. Content on the web started growing so quickly, and got so diverse, that people started to question if they actually needed AOL at all. When the telephone and cable companies started offering always-on access to the Internet that people could get to directly through a web browser (cutting off AOL), the only reason a lot of people still kept the service was for their AOL email address.

This was no longer a sustainable model. AOL’s profits started diving as their dial-up access business did. The open web had won — and in part because AOL gave it a window to operate. But without AOL (or some company like it) you could argue that people would have been slower to adopt the Internet, and the web as we know it today would have been slower to evolve.

Does any of that sound familiar? Think about the iPhone. It’s a walled-garden (though much more open than AOL was as third-party developers can work within it, provided they follow the rules), but it too has an open window to the outside: the web. The Safari web browser is the iPhone’s peephole. And Apple even plays that up at times. If people criticize them for now allowing certain apps, they note that anyone can build apps using HTML5 that will work on Safari. Apple doesn’t regulate those at all.

As Hewitt notes, HTML5 is not mature enough yet to produce apps that are on par with native apps. But some are getting fairly impressive. It could well be that in a few years, HTML5 leads to the fall of the App Store model as we know. I’m not saying the model will crash and burn as AOL’s did — Apple may adapt and take down their walls (or do something else) before that happens. But I do believe HTML5 (or some other technology we’re not even thinking about right now) will lead to an opening back up of the system.

Facebook is a slightly different matter. Whereas they were a fairly closed system at first, they’ve been opening up more in recent years. First we got the Facebook Platform, which allowed third-party developers to play within Facebook’s walls. Then we got Facebook Connect, which allowed other sites to play within Facebook’s walls. And now we have the Open Graph, which seem to extend Facebook’s walls to the broader web (at least those sites that adopt it). Yes, the system is still closed in that Facebook still has control of much of the data flowing in and out, but there are parts of it that are open too.

I happen to think that Facebook may have found the right mixture of open and closed with the Open Graph. It’s open enough that they can continue to extend their reach beyond their already incredible (nearly) 500 million members. And yet it’s closed enough that some semblance of order is maintained and people (at least for now) will keep using it.

Thanks in part to their closed roots where a system of trust was built, Facebook was able to establish and grow the ultimate social graph. Like AOL’s mail and chat systems before it, this is a form of lock-in for users. AOL failed because it was too slow to open up their system and realize that they already had hooks in place to keep users from leaving. Facebook doesn’t appear to be making the same mistake. They already won the social networking wars, so now they can afford to open up and go after the larger web. And Google.

So while everyone fears what the Facebook-ification of the web will mean, I’d argue that the only way Facebook can continue to grow and keep their users is if they continue to open up. At some point, I’d bet that it won’t be in their best interest from a business perspective to do that, and that’s when they may start to decline. But there’s a wild-card. If the company can figure out a Google AdSense-type way to make money while continuing the march towards open, they may be able to hold on.

In both of these “closed” examples, Facebook and the App Store, they key to longevity is a movement towards open. If either Facebook or Apple resist that, they’ll become AOL. Something will come along and shove them out of way. It has happened before. It will happen again. And it will keep happening. It’s inevitable.

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  • josh

    Nice article. Hoping your prediction is true.

  • http://tomwitek.me Tom

    I knew "was online was" in the nineties.

  • http://twitter.com/stevereynolds SteveReynolds

    The reason why HTML5 won't take down the App Store et al anytime soon is the App Store has a payment structure in place to allow users to easily pay for services.

    Until the web has that easy to sign up, trustworthy payment method, one-for-all, walled gardens such as the App Store will exist and continue to be successful.

  • http://chrissaad.com Chris Saad

    Basically correct, however the only thing necessary for closed systems to prevail (& break the cycle) is for good (wo)men, media companies & journalists to do nothing.

    We need to be vigilant and active against forces that would tip the scale too far one way.

  • http://www.cdnpal.com Christopher

    Well, MySpace was a case where openness lead to success. And by success I mean Rupert Murdoch bailing Intermix and Richard Rosenblatt out of a spyware legal mess with an acquisition.

    They let people make horrible webpages, and let random CSS and Flash run freely on people's web pages while Friendster, their only rival at the time did not.

    What really leads any company in California to success is the big media engine, which Tech Crunch is a part of. None of our software or sites here in California is really that much better than the rest of the world.

    But WE CAN CONVINCE PEOPLE IT IS, and convince them to use ours in preference to local versions.

    It has nothing to do with walled gardens or open ID. It has to do with money and power, and influence. Drive around LA and you'll quickly notice that half the traffic is luxury vehicles.

  • http://www.razerdesign.com Kevin K

    Really enjoyed reading this article. Thanks!

  • John

    Wait…are you saying if you become AOL you are SOL?

  • http://www.danieldirico.com Daniel DiRico

    I think this closed web may take deeper roots than before. It's about monetization.

    Throwing content and services out there on an open web for an open web browser isn't very profitable. Business have already been burned here and have learned from that mistake.

    The new web will inevitably always have a closed aspect to it from here forward, I predict.

  • Naked emperor

    Mental masturbation.

  • http://www.adwhirl.com Sam Yam

    Great article, although I'd note one thing –

    "I’d argue that the only way Facebook can continue to grow and keep their users is if they continue to open up. At some point, I’d bet that it won’t be in their best interest from a business perspective to do that, and that’s when they may start to decline."

    The most necessary opening up for user growth occurred after Facebook shed the college and company requirements; I feel Facebook's present *opening up* is very largely a business decision as the metadata they're collecting from user actions are much more useful from a monetization perspective than any benefits for their users. Knowing precisely what "apple" a user is interested in (their *like* history could be entirely around baking pies) is helpful for any number of targeting options in the future.

    And for the most part, this data is closed off (one could legitimately argue for privacy reasons, of course) from non-partnered
    http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/tech/2010/04/27/...

    third parties. Frankly, though, I don't think it makes sense for Facebook to open this data up (from a user privacy, monetization/business, or growth perspective), which then seems like they've pretty much opened up as much as they are going to.

    I'd argue that their growth (as already evident empirically) is going to come more from increasing engagement – specifically, expanding activity to other platforms like mobile and external web services going forward. Their sticky is only going to get stickier :)

  • http://jacobian.biz Jacobian

    nice perspective.the web is so dynamic that changes will keep happening.expect something else that's much bigger to arrive on world wide web.

  • James

    What you're referring to is "creative destruction" and it is the best example of what balanced capitalism can do (not too laissez faire, not too overly regulated, just regulated enough) when given the chance.

    Imagine doing this sort of thing to the transportation industry… we'd have a Supertrain to the moon in five years.

  • http://sparcq.com/ umair mufti

    in 10 years, will people with facebook accounts and iphones be looked at with the same disdain received by people today with aol email addresses?

  • John

    Not sure about the conclusion. I think AOL lost favor not out of their own doing but because of competition with completely different business models. Facebook has looked to older social networks like MySpace and has improved upon them. Facebook's biggest threat doesn't come from within. It'll probably be something out of their control.

  • Joe

    In 10 years? How about right now. I look at the Facebook users diddling their iPhones in public, probably checking into 4sq and buying their latte with a credit card tracked by Blippy, and all I can think is, Web2.0 victim.

  • Jethro

    Very nice article. It helps put everything into perspective and shows that the web isn't about to be controlled by only one person –at least, not permanently.

  • http://itsnotvalid.com itsnotvalid

    We WILL see if this happens.

  • politicalslug

    There's a word for articles with sweeping implications like yours has, wherein only a few limited examples are given (three to be precise): Anecdote. AOL fell therefore Apple and Facebook will become AOL and fail too? That's the your nonsense theory? What you fail to consider is that Facebook is dominating because the web is too open. People don't want a thousand and one different online identities. They want one universal one. The open web can never give that. Apple is dominating because competition sucked (and largely still does). Facebook is much more sustainable than Apple. Whereas Apple faces competition daily a competitors improve, Facebook's competition is dead because users don't want competition; in fact users hate competition in this area. Techcrunch is so gungho about location based services like 4squared, but those services will never take off without a universal identity. I read an article on here about one of your journalists at SXSW trying to check in everywhere on every service and it took 15-20 minutes for every location. User's don't want that.

    In summation: Facebook doesn't need to innovate to stay alive. Apple needs to constantly innovate to stay relevant. AOL had a tiny user base relative to Facebook and the two simply aren't comparable.

  • http://www.naveg.as LutzVA

    word MG!

    And I am on the way to open the music in the web.

  • john

    Facebook will continue to grow, but it will stop one day and perhaps even brakedown. Another website/company will be even bigger and better, perhaps coming from China or India. I do not believe an online company can survive as long as an offline company. Tech is growing so fast, it is impossible to keep up. Also people will like to change their means of communication and perhaps they will get bored with Facebook, or Twitter or Apple.

    The web is also becoming to Social and people will not like to share to much to everyone in the future. Things can and will be miss used and when it does it can create chaos.

  • TurnedOffByFacebook

    Great article, I don't usually post comments, but there is one thing in this article that really bothered me and I just don't agree with: "Facebook finding the right mixture of open and closed" even with Open Graph, they are still a closed platform and developers (hopefully) will be turned off by their monopolistic practices. why? because it is not only about the technology and how users perceive the platform, I think it is also very important to consider how facebook treats developers. Look at what happened to "Facebook Ultimate" (you can search for the story here on techcrunch). I don't ding Apple for what they did in that situation, they are just protecting their store (and no, I am not an apple fanboy) , but what Facebook did is an example of an inmature company affraid of the little guy. Shame on them. At least apple let the app back in the store (with a different name) after a while, but I am sure the developers affected by these silly moves from Facebook will shy away from writing apps for these closed platforms. At least I did, since as you probably guessed by now, I am a developer. On the other hand, what am I going to do? write apps for myspace? friendster? pets.com? sad very sad.

  • Peter

    The web is not the "entire internet"

  • EH

    What are they the victim of, what harm is coming to them?

  • EH

    He's right, there's also kermit.

  • http://www.cdnpal.com Christopher

    The waste of time is a hindrance. They are literally wasting away a portion of their lives.

    At companies, lawyers and programmers are wasting billions of billable hours.

    When we start doing payroll and set up our new office, all popular social networks and proxies along with YouTube will be on the firewall.

    My experience in California has shown me better than not to firewall the living jesus out of these websites.

    Had the SEC firewalled porn instead of simply logging it, the financial melt down could have been reduced.

    This is a problem for society, because the minutes Facebook, MySpace, Foursquare and others shave off of a person's life and work adds up.

    I will only barely use Latitude, and only because it requires no work on my end. Only an undue battery drain.

  • SG

    I normally don't like your stuff MG, but this was a great post.

  • Moe Glitz

    Amongst my group of family and friends in London at least half of them have 'fun' or 'fake' Facebook profiles.

    There is at least six characters from the film 'Snatch', Regan from the 'Exorcist', Skrewface from 'Marked For Death', Osama Bin Ladern, etc.

    I would put Facebook's real membership total at around 250 million.

    Of course Facebook knows that their site is full of bogus profiles, but its more beneficial to tell Advertisers & Marketers that you have 500 million members, instead of only 250 million.

  • http://bandwidthproductions.com Mike

    Agree with Steve here.

    But iwould add that once HTML5 matures, I'd see the AppStore just migrating to being web based with the competitive benefit of the pay system / structure intact.

    AOL couldn't compete with the web because a lot of the content being offered by AOL started to be offered free on the web so there was no point paying AOL a premium. Early signs are that people don't mind paying a little bit for the prepackaged experience of an App created using Cocoa. Once html5 matures, those same content providers aren't going to suddenly start giving away the HTML5 versions for free. Most likely they'll sell them through Apple's HTML 5 app store for the same price.

  • http://www.cdnpal.com Christopher

    Should read:

    "At companies, lawyers and programmers are wasting billions of dollars in billable hours due to these walled garden websites."

  • http://synthesis.williamgunn.org Mr. Gunn

    Excellent comment, Chris. An insightful article overall, but I don't think this is a call for complacency. It's a good thing AOL died off. The fact that Facebook is smart enough to not make the "mistakes" AOL did isn't a good thing for a consumer, only for Facebook.

  • The Lorax

    Prediction: The browser will disappear from iDevices within three years. Steve Jobs will say its to protect the quality of user experience.

  • lisa

    FB, app store and google — many are dreaming FB will surpass google. But I think its far from reality — not today, not even next year.. In fact, it only exists on someone else's 'geeky' fantasy.

    Why Google? Because it knows how to play the game called 'monopoly'.

  • http://hongkietown.com Spike

    "By 2000, AOL was so powerful and had so much money thanks to its winning (again, closed) model that it actually bought Time Warner for $164 billion."

    Um, no. AOL used fraudulent and illegal accounting methods to report sales that didn't exist, manipulating their earnings statements, causing the stock price to soar. They bought Time Warner using this inflated stock, not cash.

    Once this became public information (and criminal charges were filed against AOL executives), "AOL Time Warner" went back to being just Time Warner and most of the AOL execs were pushed out of the company.

    AOL started declining because they were slow to convert from dial-up access to broadband.

    Not that this has anything to do with your central open/closed internet premise, but Facebook's dominance and profits are (optimistically) real and not just on paper and it's not a given that they will go down as AOL did.

  • Jd

    Without aol, web adoption wold have been much *faster*.

  • http://yext.com Howard Lerman

    cool post, MG

  • http://www.iBenRowe.com Ben Rowe

    Right or wrong, great post. I personally think Facebook is moving in the right direction with Open Graph…

  • http://highway8a.blogspot.com Silver Fox

    As if no one ever frittered their time away on the phone (at work) prior to hooking everyone's work computer to the internet. Were "water coolers" banned or firewalled back then? No.

    Also, breaks at work are mandated by federal law.

  • Brian Canton

    Very interesting comment, but I am very intrigued by it since I do not understand it. Why do you say money is wasted by lawyers and programmers? How is it wasted?

  • Brian Canton

    Very true, I have discovered many of my friends to be keeping in secret fake facebook profiles pretending to be people they are not just that they can connect with girls they do not know. I personally think it is creepy and should be highly illegal to misrepresent an identity on Facebook. I think this should also apply to police departments that create fake profiles to entrap people. I think Facebook should actively pursue these fake profiles and bring an end to it by banning they IP's for starters.

  • Steve

    Facebook's TOS prohibits more than one personal account per user. Sounds like they have a good reason not to enforce this.

  • http://www.mechanosphere.com DigitalPencilPusher

    Great article – You could talk about technology in general being cyclical. At the beginning of the Industrial Revolution technology and culture changed rapidly. This is exactly what we are seeing here in the beginning of the Information Revolution. The internet and surrounding ecosystem are only in the initial stages of evolution. The closed and open systems debate is Micro in scope since the Information revolution is only just emerging. The author is right there will be a multitude of iterations of how we will be accessing information.

  • http://facebookapps.in Ruth Bernard

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    The facebook Apps store aiming to develop 1000 apps in short span on 3 months is already live

    http://facebookapps.in/Home.aspx

  • http://facebookapps.in Ruth Bernard

    The facebook Apps store aiming to develop 1000 apps in short span on 3 months is already live

    http://facebookapps.in/Home.aspx

    Read more:http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/01/the-internet-is-...

  • http://mytech2u.blogspot.com Jimmy Tech Daily

    ya, i'm agree…

  • Alex Yuen

    Your reasoning is flawed. Closed systems do not help at all. Without competition, there can be no true innovation. When a country closes its borders, it leads to stagnation – China's one good example of this.

    But you're right about one thing – things tends to be cyclical.

    There was a time when Apple was known as an acronym for "Arrogance Produces Profit Losing Entity"

    If they push consumers hard enough, that time will certainly come again.

  • Rohit Nallapeta

    MG you sound almost philosophical, there will be a lot of impact and changes during this cycle, I wish it were a cycle, I hope and for the better.

  • http://michaelmyers.biz Michael Myers

    Apps are next-gen virtual goods. Oh the sound of inevitability.

  • http://www.toddmoses.com Todd Moses

    I had a client who's sole existence was based on a fictional character that got started on Facebook. Everyone thinks he is real. No joke.

  • http://clintsharp.com/ Clint Sharp

    I don't know what it is about MG Siegler's articles, but this is the third in a row that I've read where I just can't help but feel like he's explaining something to me the same way I explain subjects to my 4 yr old. Frankly, it's insulting, and I don't know why I keep feeling this way, but it's something to do with the writing style. I guess I'm going to have to start checking the by-line on the articles because in general I really enjoy reading TC.

  • There…I said

    Hopefully it is cyclical. You're really basing this on just one cycle which isn't enough to draw a proper conclusion from.

    I'm an Apple fan (not fanboy) and I believe they're walled garden is not permanent. I think they're treating the next-gen of their OS (will replace the Mac) with kid gloves but it is nice to have Android there to keep it in check even though I think it's inferior (no offense).

  • Geo

    Illegal? So you want the police to arrest people who keep more than one Facebook account. That's just scary.

  • Gb

    History only repeats for those who ignore it.

    Google vs Facebook is a joke.

    Google > Facebook

    Google is usefull, Facebook, disposable.

    The web can't live a day without Google, but the web can live a month, a year, a decade without Facebook.

    Facebook is like ICQ for me

    Think about it.

  • Phil

    HTML5 on Safari will NEVER supplant iPhone games in any way.

    Why?

    Because at the first whiff of it happening, Apple will ensure by any means possible that those games will break. The easiest means would be deliberate slowdown.

    Use an alternative browser with speedier Javascript? Apple bounces it out of the store.

    Either Jobs retires (yes, the Jobs who initially scoffed and denigrated the idea of native apps) and saner heads prevail at Apple, or it will run itself into the ground as Android phones get more and more capable while staying a far more open system. As an iPhone programmer I don't think Android is there yet. But someday, it will be, and then the inherent advantages of actual openness will be a huge competitive advantage. I hope that Apple doesn't wait for that to happen before it unJobifies itself.

  • Derrick Domino

    Steve Jobs is a tool, brilliant, but a tool. My next point…the web is not yet developed….many domain names are holder pages….This will change in the future…better, more robust content will come…there will be a million channels of quality content….This is why I think the walled garden is going to die. Finally, Steve Jobs is a tool.

  • http://www.sumitmaitra.com Sumit Maitra

    Bravo MG!

    First article of yours that I have come across that makes sense. I was almost making an effort to start avoiding your 'fanboyism'.

    Nice work. We all hope what you say comes true in some form or the other…

    @Clint Sharp

    Maybe you won't feel that way if you skip a few articles of his ;-)…

  • Sean Wilson

    "His point is that the state of web languages as presided over by the W3C (the Republic) are moving too slow. Cocoa, a framework presided over by Apple (the King) is a good 10 years ahead of it.”

    So, so true. We can cry about the closed systems taking over, but the fact is that as long as the open systems stand by and wait, this will happen.

    Frankly, we need web standards to evolve, and relying on Flash for the last five years has really damaged that evolution. Waiting for Adobe to improve the web makes it exactly what we thought we were avoiding: putting the future of the web in the hands of one company.

    Open standards + faster evolution are the solution.

  • http://www.menorca360.com menorca

    yeees…. is cool facebook !!

  • http://in.linkedin.com/in/suruchie Suruchi Makhija

    In a nutshell, the cyclic trend is 'freedom with rules'.

    And the proof of this is in the cycle that runs through man's history (and not just the Net’s).

    It always begins with a ruler who tries to control, conquer and enslave resources & masses. But is brought down in the end by the ones who 'fight for freedom'. That’s the cycle. And it’s spoked with several variant phases and events all heading towards one final stage of balance. But what is that balance?

    If we look at present day, we have achieved a balance between freedom and enslavement, where you are free to do what you want but there are 'laws', 'rules' and 'morals' that discipline our activities. And we follow these rules, because we know, they are good for us and even protect us.

    I’m not techie, but what I understand is that right now, Apple is on the ‘freedom with boundaries’ phase of the cycle. Which is very different from and will eventually lead to the final ‘freedom with rules’ phase of the cycle.

    But surely, in another decade, another powerful man/company will arise with some breakthrough technology and will get all control-freaky about it. Which will be the first phase of yet another cycle. But we shouldn’t hate this guy or his company. Because we need him. We need his technology. After all he’s a genius! And we need these conflicts too because they help us ‘resolve and evolve’ as a democratic community, so we can together set our own standards for our own ‘freedom with rules’.

    In the end, it's all for the greater good (of Man and of the Web).

  • http://realestatekhoj.wordpress.com realestatekhoj

    Agree with Lisa- its tough to beat Google until google plays some d**k moves like the Buzz. They have the best apps for everything useful … email , search , maps… tough to beat them ..

    http://www.realestatekhoj.wordpress.com

  • Vishal Sanjay

    Whoah… MG Siegler is The Architect!

    http://www.lamedumbblogger.com/

  • http://WWW.MOG.COM david Hyman

    this payment structure is come from facebook. mog is already using facebook connect for authentication. why can't we use facebook for credict card too and take the friction out? if facebook doesn't pull this off, amazon needs to. amazon needs to create amazon connect, that enables the web with one click ordering.

  • eCurmudgeon

    That's good for a start, but I've recommended the following to companies:

    1. Employee workstations should not have direct access to the Internet. Ideally, these should be on a separate "air-gapped" network.

    2. Email send/receive access to external addresses should be reserved to only those people who have a specific need to do so (PR, HR, customer support, etc.). Other employees can only send/receive emails to other employees.

    3. If employees do require access to Internet sites/services, the best way is to do so via reserved Internet Kiosk systems, in full view of other employees and full web filtering/logging enabled.

    You want to waste time, do it at home…

  • Capnbob66

    Very good points though I would add that Apple have cracked monetization and have exponentially more $s to keep innovating than Facebook or most of its competitors. An Apple/FB merger? The nerds would all commit suicide immediately (with any luck).

  • http://alwillis.posterous.com Al Willis

    Um… really? I get that writing this stuff gets Tech Crunch pageviews and because of the ephemeral nature of the web, by next week, no one will even remember the shortsighted and uninformed predictions about Apple and where all of this stuff is going.

    Outside of the nerd-geek-techie web 2.0 blogosphere echo chamber, nobody really cares about open or even why it's important. I know many geeks think open (whatever that means today) matters to regular, normal folks or that it will one day soon. But they're wrong, as usual.

    My toaster isn't 'open.' My washing machine isn't open. Neither is my rice cooker. And unless you're a geek and did it yourself, neither is yours.

    As long as Apple continues to make useful and innovative products that combine form and function and MSFT, Dell, Sony continue to be

  • iggy

    Agent Smith: You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson. You must know it by now. You can't win. It's pointless to keep fighting. Why, Mr. Anderson? Why? Why do you persist?

    Neo: Because I choose to.

  • Joe

    ""I want desperately to be a web developer again, but if I have to wait until 2020 for browsers to do what Cocoa can do in 2010, I won’t wait,” Hewitt said. His point is that the state of web languages as presided over by the W3C (the Republic) are moving too slow. Cocoa, a framework presided over by Apple (the King) is a good 10 years ahead of it."

    This is the same thing with HTML5/JS and Flash – Flash moves much faster because it's driven by Adobe alone while Javascript is at a total standstill since almost a whole decade. How ironic that it's totally OK with Cocoa but everybody and their mother hates Flash for being closed…

  • http://alwillis.posterous.com Al Willis

    As long as everyone else remains inept and Apple continues to iterate at their current pace, nobody will be capable of catching them.

    Customers want stuff that works and doesn't create a lot of headaches or issues. And it should look good.

    Apple is open enough; until someone else can deliver useful devices and user experiences, none of this other stuff actually matters.

    Not a coincidence that Apple went from 0% marketshare 3 years ago to the #1 US cell phone maker. Against entrenched and established competitors. And most of the tech press said it was literally impossible for Apple to succeed. We know how that turned out.

  • Illuminatus

    This has got to be one of best articles I have read recently. A nice, clear view about what is going on and what might go on without flames, html5 vs flash war (a stupid one from my point of view) etc.

    Well done mate!

  • Alex

    "Cocoa, a framework presided over by Apple (the King) is a good 10 years ahead of it." You can say the same thing about Action Script 3.0 / Flash / Flex, and Silverlight / C Sharp, JAVA

  • standardcombo

    Someone comes along and offers a substitute for free, and potentially better, through html5.

    Those same content providers will be no more.

  • http://www.qxdesigns.net Jeff

    Just like what was mentioned in the article…Facebook is at a point where they're beginning to "open up" but at this point, if they open up too much, they lose "lock-in" and then inevitably they lose ad revenue, which is currently their only source of revenue. It's a lose/lose situation for them. If they keep it closed, they'll crumble like AOL previously. If they open it up, they lose lock-in and lose revenue. At least AOL was charging for their service from the get-go so they were able to make money when times were good before their eventual demize, Facebook missed this boat.

    The reason why Facebook grew so rapidly though was because of it being free. The pay-to-use social network model doesn't work, take a look at classmates.com.

  • http://www.independentmusicadvice.com/index.php/resources/ Musician Resources

    It could be a while till this happens but of course it is possible. For many people it will be seen as hard to look past Facebook being their everything for social media and ITunes being their everything for their music listening and downloading, but everything has a shelf life! Will be interesting to see what happens…

  • James

    The police use fake Facebook profiles to catch potential sex offenders. That's not a bad thing if you ask me.

  • http://www.newviewit.com Website Design

    I believe most people want the iphone platform open and Facebook to be closed.

    It's not fair to compare AOL to facebook. AOL was all about connecting people to information. Facebook is about connecting friends and most people I know do not want anyone to exploit their connections with their friends for corporate profits.

    For myself Facebook needs to be a private walled garden or I'll move onto the next greatest social network that will be coming along soon.

  • sk

    "When we start doing payroll and set up our new office" –

    From what i can see it can take forever.

    Maybe you are pissed off in the example you said because you dont have an iphone, dont have broadband internet, and dont have money for a latte, needless to say no credit card as well. in total, means you yourself are a web 2.0 victim wanabe, mr. sour grapes.

    I would strongly suggest that you leave your parents basement and get things rolling if you can other than a business twitter account wioth 24 followers. You are so lame.

  • duder

    This is interesting speculation, but you literally did not back it up with anything.

    You gave one example of when this has happened before, asserted that therefore it must be a cycle, and then concluded that the future will follow this cycle that you just pulled out of thin air.

    Like I said, it's an interesting thought. But "inevitable"? Give me a break.

  • http://anthonycerreta.com ntho

    Great article and thoughts. It's interesting how Facebook (unlike AOL) does not really allow users to permanantly delete their accounts – only temporarily suspend accounts. I wonder if this will help or hurt Facebook in the end.

  • Tim

    In this article, we see tenuous analogy pushed way too far.

  • Bobby Orr

    I do agree that Facebook is beginning to close itself off. But I would be more worried about the FB credits reality more than anything else. This can only lead to a monopoly over-reaching to eke out every nickel possible and ultimately leading to blowback from the developer community. We all realize the Facebook is now going full throttle for a revenue line that looks sustainable. They have consciously pulled back the viral channels to force the developers to buy marketing in another attempt to add to their bottom line. At some point, Facebook, in its greed to pinch it all out will push developers off the platform and then the will have to loosen it up. This is business evolution at the end of the day.

  • http://twitter.com/stevereynolds SteveReynolds

    People that think the web will eventually mean everyone develops everything for free consumption are being duped.

    The world is not full of generous people that live off of nothing.

  • http://www.cdnpal.com Christopher

    "From what i can see it can take forever."

    We are working out a deal so that we do not need to have a workforce under our FEIN, or pay benefits or workers comp right now.

    So we may not be doing payroll until we file our 15c211 next year. Hopefully.

    Basically we're in the process of making deals that trade equity in our company for the use of other tech companies in the United States's work force to fill the holes in our own, which consists of several partners.

    That way they have to deal with the human resources and we get the work, and no money is exchanged. It's a low risk investment and both parties benefit.

    The more we pay out, the less money we get to keep.

  • http://jdscapitalidea.blogspot.com Jon D

    As I recall, Agent Smith was wrong… He lost in the end.

    Apple's iPhone-iPad-store model doesn't seem anything like FB's proprietary environment. Many people likely see FB as "the internet". Its all they use. And FB seems to delight in new ways of sharing information you said not to share, almost monthly.

    I suppose both Apple and FB are trying to make money keeping you inside their walls. At least Apple is more overt about it.

  • boden

    I agree, I feel Facebook is going down a path to their own destruction. The web has evolved into a metropolis, sometimes I want to wander the public parts see the sights, freaks, parks. I also want a walled garden to socialize in that feels intimate and safe. Facebook has stopped feeling intimate and safe with new unwanted features like "connect" and "Open Graph". Time to move on.

  • Jaxon Triggs

    Yeah, I definitely agree with you, but the signs are already clear for us to see. Facebook is ALL about profiteering people's personal information and their connections. Every month theres a another privacy loss or debacle and the way they conduct themselves is dastardly at best.

    Just this week I logged in and they were trying to link my PUBLIC profile with pages for my highschool and college, clearly making this information public. Although they made it REALLY seem like you shouldn't do it, I ducked out of their wizard and used a SMALL link they provided to cancel out.

    Then, just yesterday, I logged in they decided to show me the same wizard again upon login only this time there WAS NO link to duck out, it was removed! They made it very hard to decline, i had to go to a separate page and uncheck each school and suggested link individually, and everything they were doing was trying to steer me away from doing so. There was no deselect all, they were all selected by default and the whole while they had a nice highlighted blue button that screams "OKAY just do whatever and make this annoying dialog go away so I can see my damn page".

    Facebook, you are the scum of the earth. I would smile if a social backlash crushed you or the US gov't put you in a fatal choke hold. You deserve it.

  • Jaxon Triggs

    Honestly man, if they let the app back in the store and they just had to change the name, maybe the fact that they had called the app FACEBOOK ultimate and packaged it with a ripoff icon of the official Facebook was the issue, no?

    Then the app first appeared it was trying to ride too closely on the Facebook brand. The app appeared as an official Facebook product. Honestly I hate Facebook I think they are evil but if that were my company I would have been mad about that app too.

    How would this situation be different if someone released an app called GOOGLE app, with a colorful google style logo. It wouldn't be any different, and Google would have their objections too, and it would be pulled.

    The author made the app too closely appear as an official Facebook app by riding on their branding and name and i'm not at all surprised it was pulled. How can you argue with that, come on.

  • http://wordpress.pocosin.com Counsel

    FB? Not for me. Who really needs a web-site to stay up-to-date with real, close friends?

    I used to go on about once a month, usually at the urging of someone to read something… I'm like, "Just e-mail it to me…" Heck, stick it on a Google wave and tide it over to me :)

    I have my own domain, and I can post my thoughts there. Why do I need to store my data (isn't it mine?) on someone else's computer? Why give them access to my data so they can make money?

    Find people? If we all had our own domains, we could google, yahoo, or bing and still find everyone…

    Games? Give me a break… Flash games are everywhere, and regardless of what Steve says, they aren't going anywhere. Why? H264 is a codec to handle video compression (a family of codecs really), and H264 is not a development platform–try creating interactive games with H264…

    No, I'll stay away from FB. Not only do I know what my friends are up to without FB, I don't need the SPAM from people I used to know (and didn't like then…).

    I know the majority disagrees, but I'm not jumping just because everyone else is…

  • http://www.nixle.com NixleRep

    Facebook is not going to fail as long as their service is free. Users will not leave that site because it has become as integral to their existence as their telephone numbers. AOL failed because new web users didn't need it, as it was no longer the primary portal. The two are not comparable.

    The internet today is all about the eyeballs. Facebook isn't going anywhere. Unless another site provides something that Facebook doesn't. Like, location specific services…there is only one company poised to do this, Nixle.

  • http://sta.rtup.biz/profile/Zara Zara

    I agree with so much of this article, I am going to have to leave the room …and sick a little in my mouth… arr those were the days o_O

  • Matt Wrench

    People's cynicism about the future is foolish. Yes, industries follow cyclical paths. No, that does not mean we are generally going downhill.

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  • m96

    Haha yeah.. and then we also forbid people to speak to each other. Then we gonna have some real time saved.

    Hope you're joking.. for your own sake. Companies that hinder peoples social interaction and collaboration through internet in various forms will not be around in 10 years because they will not be able to compete on anything at all when all information and experience is blocked out. Good luck on that one! ..cause you'll need it.. :-)

  • fjpoblam

    Your points about AAPL are well taken. On to FB. I disagree with your idea that FB "openness" is a nice balance for the future. As has been discussed elsewhere (one example:http://www.danah.org/papers/talks/2010/WWW2010.ht... ) FB making it easier to share PII with friends has gotten out of line.

    FB has taken this ease of sharing out of context, making it also easy (in fact, "forced") to share PII with non-friends (e.g., monetized apps). This out-of-context sharing has been taken away from user control.

    FB responsiveness to user concerns has indeed become a *closed* system. FB control of user privacy (as opposed to *user* control of user privacy) is a *closed* system.

    The *closed* nature of FB operations will seal FB's doom. I've trashed my FB account, and urged all I know to do so as well. Enjoy these:
    http://bit.ly/cPJB8v http://eff.org/r.j8B http://eff.org/r.3j9

  • Ryan Tracey

    The only reason I'm still on Facebook is because my friends are. That won't last.

  • http://www.hazarddesigns.org Katie

    I highly doubt Facebook can overtake Google. I believe facebook is actually LOSING momentum instead of picking up speed. It may be gaining members from the 30 – 50 age group but the 20-somethings that were part of its original target audience are getting increasingly frustrated every time Facebook makes a change to make itself more public.

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  • Dog Breath

    This might be all well and good if we actually know what all is going on behind the scenes with our personal data.

    The up cycle will be an illusion.

  • notoriousmfa

    "At companies, lawyers and programmers are wasting billions of billable hours [on FB, YT, etc.]."

    This is the typical line one gets from efficiency experts. It's also nonsense once you stop looking at manufacturing/factory work, and start looking at white collar work. It assumes that, minus these "distractions", people would "stay on task" and "get more work done" — and I'm unaware of any reliable study that's proven anything of the sort. If you're trying to work out a sticky problem, in fact, beating your head against the problem is going to give you a headache, not productivity.

    While I can certainly understand wanting to clamp down on the bandwidth used by streaming video, the notion that you're going to increase productivity by doing so is dubious at best.

    "Had the SEC firewalled porn instead of simply logging it, the financial melt down could have been reduced."

    Oh, good Lord. Are you serious? *Porn* had *nothing* to do with the financial meltdown, which was caused by banks insuring financial products that were high-risk, opaque, and underregulated.

  • primexx

    fyi, the select all button also deselects.

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  • David

    You just installed intense debate?

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  • Sean Kelly

    Inevitable definitely. And as always follow the money. The Apple Ap Store credit card convenience is the "ultimate" lock in. Android as an ecosystem will never go anywhere until they have the CC lockin.

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  • Digitor

    In many ways, Microsoft's coming Windows Phone 7 is more closed than Apple's iPhone / iPad. Windows Phone 7 does not recognize HTML5 to any extent. WP7 does not recognize the industry standard OpenGL for graphics (the other handset makers use OpenGL). Microsoft won't use the WebKit browser that all the others do, and instead uses a mobile version of Internet Explorer 7. WP7 does not use Java, but uses proprietary Silverlight instead.

    Microsoft has been very careful to keep the protocols and formats of its mobile platform closed. It's careful not to have an HTML5-compliant browser that Apple does. Microsoft is behaving like it is still fighting the battles of the 1990s, when in fact, Microsoft (like AOL) would benefit to open up its mobile platform, rather than locking it down. Like AOL, Microsoft will learn that lesson too late.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pixeldrew Drew Foehn

    The lock in is the reason why I stayed away from Itunes, it was also annoying that the two times I did try and sign up my credit card wasn't accepted by their validation.

    Relying on their bloated software on the PC to make a purchase made me also weary. Why do I need a tool other than a browser to purchase things?

  • Yuval R

    Disagree with main premise. IMHO closed system will prevail but they will become part of the plumbing, so there will be a flourishing ecosystem on top where innovation is chartered to the many, rather than to the few.

    In particular I think mash-ups of giants, like the iPhone Facebook app, will give such ecosystems added diversity. Users definitely seem to need these mash-ups, so it's bound to happen anyway.

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  • Christoph Kluge

    So I tried to post a comment… with a lot of nonsense about how this article was very cool and all, but it didnt show up, instead I get an email to verify login for intense debate. I verify, but my comment is still not to be seen. Now did I fark this up somehow?! Anyhow, all those words for nought.

    For once you write something coherent and insightful (I kid) and I am obstructed give ya kudos? Not cool.

  • http://webicrat.blogspot.com Craig Elimeliah

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  • Serge

    Thanks for this great post

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  • JDP

    Well for pure opinion journalism, the article was okay. Not particularly engaging but it hit its point. Though you really can't forecast when but will subsequently say "HA! Told you so!" whenever it does happen.

    The challengers seem really far and few between. I honestly haven't bought music from iTunes in maybe two years. I still use iTunes every day despite its bloat as my music player and a sync obviously for my iPod. Amazon gets more of my business. So does that make me an enigma?

    Facebook is harder to judge. For some its an integral part of their daily lives. For others its a once or twice a week check whats on the bulletin board mentality. When Facebook fails, it will be because people are actually doing things with other people. I can definitely not see when this day will come, but give the harsh extremes of American psyches I'm thinking it will be sooner than late.

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  • Joshua Carmody

    "By 2000, AOL was so powerful and had so much money thanks to its winning (again, closed) model that it actually bought Time Warner for $164 billion."

    I think you have that backwards. Time Warner bought AOL.

  • http://twitter.com/2late2die @2late2die

    While your main idea makes sense I don't think the situation is really comparable to what was going on at the dawn on the web with AOL and the likes. While there are similarities certainly, the situation today is very different and I think that if the internet taught us anything is that you can't predict its nature. We can't even begin to guess how the web landscape is going to look in 2 years, let alone 5 or 10. I hope you're right about "open" prevailing but I can't help but notice that as Apple is moving more and more towards a closed system, it is at the same time gaining more and more users – and I don't know if this trend will stop.

  • http://twitter.com/bgkittrell @bgkittrell

    I actually wrote an article similar to this last week. <a href="http://(http://garbageburrito.com/blog/entry/645201/moving-towards-a-more-segmented-internet).” target=”_blank”>(http://garbageburrito.com/blog/entry/645201/moving-towards-a-more-segmented-internet).

    As a web developer I feel like the tools I have hold me back. Seeing what you can do on closed systems like iPhone and Adroid is very alluring. As @timbray pointed out this morning, seeing that Mint's Android app isn't a clone of the iPhone app is actually pretty interesting.

  • Phil

    AOL's downturn was their high cost modem banks competing with broadband ISPs. Then usable web content was their demise. Facebook will not go away, it will just morph into a distributed directory – akin to LDAP.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/tcparislemon MG Siegler

    yes, we did.

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/tcparislemon MG Siegler

    nope, when the transaction happened, it was actually AOL who had the 55% stake in the newly merged company.
    http://news.cnet.com/2100-1023-235400.html

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/tcparislemon MG Siegler

    they're coming. being migrated over right now.

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/tcparislemon MG Siegler

    agree that the credit card/ease of transaction lock-in is huge.

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  • http://twitter.com/DavidNeubauer @DavidNeubauer

    WP7 will have flash, html5, and anything else you choose to put on it. It will not have some department at Microsoft deciding for you what you can and can't put on the device. Microsoft is not afraid to compete with app developers, they are not cowards like the people at Apple.

  • http://twitter.com/DavidNeubauer @DavidNeubauer

    I replied to someone's comment, it said my post had to be approved and then it disappeared. Without comment or reason. I noticed no other replies to anyone's posts. Is this intentional?

  • http://www.danieldirico.com Daniel DiRico

    whoa this is intense

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  • Frank-D

    really great post
    the big picture
    I like thinking in analogies,

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  • http://live.com/textstev Stephen Jennings

    Very extensive article
    First – Tools have definitely been closed, but I feel at least with web development, they are opening, just look at this comment system filled with login ways and MS/web tools.
    Second – Closed systems suck, but really the open web was just full of closed system as opposed to one closed system.
    Third – M$ owns all, even though Google, Facebook, and Apple are good competitors.
    Lastly, this whole article was just talking in circles. The person about it be engaging was right.

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  • GoCatGo

    Anything you had to say, Derrick … any point you were attempting to make … was completely negated by your pointless “tool” comments.

  • GoCatGo

    Facebook, Apple … these initiatives will fail eventually … but not due to external pressures, but because of internal strategic errors. Sufficient complexity and mass will typically result in collapse.

  • GoCatGo

    Nope. AOL bought Time Warner. Fraudulently, though.

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