Tim Cook “Shocked” At iPad Demand, “Can’t Think Of A Single Thing A Netbook Does Well”
MG Siegler
Apr 20, 2010

Not surprisingly on Apple’s earnings call today, there were a lot of questions about Apple’s newest product, the iPad. And I do mean a lot — it seems that about half of the questions were about the product. Unfortunately, neither Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer nor COO Tim Cook gave many answers about the product. Their standard line was that there wasn’t enough data yet to draw any conclusions. But Cook did slip in a few interesting statements about the device.

When asked about Apple’s recent decision to delay iPad shipments to Europe, Cook candidly said that U.S. demand for the iPad “has shocked us.” He noted that it’s a good problem to have, and that there are no production problems — Apple simply underestimated how popular the device would be right off the bat. Apple announced that first day sales surpassed 300,000 and that first week sales were past 500,000. But since then, they haven’t said much. Some estimates put sales past 1 million already.

More interesting though, was what Cook said in response to a question about the iPad’s positioning against netbooks. “To me, it’s a no-brainer,” Cook said. “It’s sort of 100 to 0. I can’t think of a single thing a netbook does well.” This echoes similar statements made by CEO Steve Jobs when he remarked during the iPad’s unveiling that netbooks “aren’t better at anything.” And in the past, Jobs has noted that Apple didn’t know how to build $500 computers that weren’t a “piece of junk.” Clearly, Apple thinks of the iPad as different than a regular computer, and, a netbook.

Of course, Apple’s newly heated rival Google has a different opinion. Later this year, Google will unveil the first Chrome OS netbooks. These machines have been built by partners working closely with Google to make sure they’re not — at least in Google’s mind — pieces of junk. This year’s holiday shopping market for $500 machines should be interesting, to say the least.

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  • http://www.garthshoemaker.com Garth

    I can't remember where I read it, but somebody wrote "netbooks are for producing information, iPad's are for consuming information." I think that puts it succinctly. I never saw the two as competitors. iPads fill an unserved niche.

  • http://www.garthshoemaker.com Garth

    You've said very little about what iPads and netbooks "do". Access to numerous OS's, openness, price point, and even multitasking have very little to do with what a user can do with a device. You should be paying more attention to the devices' industrial design and software design from the perspective of a user.

    Your thinking is very much stuck in a previous generation where users of computers cobbled together machines with a screwdriver. Today it is more about a whole experience of use.

  • Bilbao

    All work and no play makes Raj a dull boy.

  • Bilbao

    Sure, you can print from an iPad. Check it out…

    http://engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-printing-solv...

  • http://www.garthshoemaker.com Garth

    I believe it to an extent. Apple has crashed and burned in the past (e.g. Newton), and so has Steve Jobs (e.g. NeXT). There is no such thing as a sure thing, and Apple stays in business by being worried about what might happen.

  • wrong

    For you a netbook would be a foolish purchase, then. You should get a low-end laptop, which can be had for $500-ish and will give you the screen real estate you need for using Excel (and Office).

    Your comment feels like someone saying a motorcycle is a dumb purchase because you need to plow your vehicle to pull a plow across your cornfields.

    Clearly if you have a need for running Office, a Windows laptop is the right choice. That's kind of a non-point.

  • wrong

    On the nose, in my opinion. Two different kinds of devices, both with their strong points.

  • Bilbao

    I’ll take a Courier

    Don't hold your breath.

  • http://www.breadmarket.co.uk mark

    Chrome OS was announced way before the iPad was, are you calling 'cloud print' a me too product? cause the iPad doesn't have it yet.

  • wrong

    You know these things because you read about them on the internet, right?

    Your e-peen is so impressive.

    We have 2 iPads in our house and 2 of my co-workers have them and I've yet to witness any of these problems.

    The only glimmer of truth is that the iPad won't charge via USB while in use. Once you sleep it, charging begins.

    And since the think easily goes all day on a charge under normal use, this is a non-issue anyway.

    But you throb-on, clueless e-peen boy!

  • wrong

    One thing the iPad does better; retaining its charge. You won't need a power outlet unless you frequently fly back and forth across the Pacific.

  • Billy Bob

    I'm so glad that Canada claims you, Garth.

    Industrial design and software design is nice and all, but if you make a piece of shit pretty — it's still a piece of shit.

    For the record, I'm not saying the iPad is a piece of shit. I'm saying that sometimes it's the underlying aspects of things that matter and not the industrial design.

  • William Palmer

    Oh dear have I insulted your toy.

    What is it with gadget sites and personal attacks on those that don't blindly follow the latest fad.

    There are 3 real laptops (note I said laptops, netbooks are only slightley more useful than slates), two real desktops, 5 real tvs, 4 real music systems, four real portable music players and hundreds of real books in my house. There is nothing any tablet/slate/ipad can do that comes close to being as good at doing as those items.

    If you are saying that all the people who reported charging problems and shoddy wifi connection are liars? Are you saying the universities that have had to stop students from using their ipads because, due to the poor implementatiom of DHCP don't know what they are talking about?

    Now get back to asking if your customers need fries with that (one good personal insult deserves another).

  • Phil

    The iPad is good if you're on the crapper and need something fun to do other than look at the wall. Anything along the lines of business, typing (long emails, word docs, excel, etc), printing, or entertainment (web based flash games, computer games, etc) and your iPad is just a giant paper weight.

    Comparing an iPad to a netbook just shows ignorance..

  • Jaxon Triggs

    LOL you win

  • Marc

    Netbooks travel well. Netbooks are good all-rounders for light tasks when you don't want to be weighed down. That's what they're good for.

  • swilkers808

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  • Lin

    The lack of a webcam is completely inexcusable. It's such a logical component for this device it really makes one think if it was left off for the sole reason of selling more units next year when Apple suddenly invents it.

    Also I'm puzzled that the screen resolution couldn't be at least 720p. I know the screen size isn't that big but it would have made it seem like a more legitimate video player if it was true HD.

    All that being said, I would pick one up if I knew that it wouldn't find itself in a corner collecting dust after a month. Perhaps some people will find a real use for this thing. For most though, I think it will end up being an expensive toy that hardly gets used. Reasons to get and not get the ipad?

  • Jeremie C.

    The thing is I don't see what is the iPad the best at.

    Reading ebooks ? Shiny colourful screen, distractions everywhere => out

    Surfing the web ? No flash, gtfo => out

    Office productivity ? Please now that's silly => out

    Games ? Nope, I don't think so => out

    Watching movies ? Ok, but I don't see how it's better than a netbook that can be put on your knees and still have a good viewing angle by design (unlike a tablet of any sort which has to be maintained in the good position)

    And this is just functionality, so let's not forget the tyrannic eye of Sauro…I mean Steve Jobs, watching and controlling everything, the overall design, the absence of a cam or of basic connectivity…

    In fact the only use I could see would be to read Marvel comics – they really look freaking good on this huge screen.

  • http://ARMdevices.net Charbax

    This manufactured scarcity is a scheme to try to ramp up as much free advertising as possible for the ipad.

    The truth are in the numbers, numbers that apple does not want to communicate because it would make their stock value crumble:

    iphone revenues per year: $20 Billion

    ipod touch revenues per year: $10 Billion

    Likely ipad revenues per year: $1 Billion

    Macbook revenues per year: $10 Billion

    The fact is:

    - Android is killing apple.

    1. Cheaper Android phones, by cheaper, I mean 30x cheaper than the iphone, $100 unlocked even with free unlimited VOIP on WiFi/3G instead of $3000+ over 2 years with iphone contracts. Populace, DON'T GET SUCKERED BY APPLE.

    2. Cheaper and Better Android Tablets to ipod touch and ipad. What is imminent are the Android tablets with Pixel Qi screens that truely can be used for reading ebooks. Android Tablets will dominate the market because the 10" ones will sell below $200 and the 5" ones can sell down towards $100. Unlocked, no contracts, on WiFi and 3G and with tethering.

    3. $100 Chrome OS Netbooks and Smartbooks are simply going to exterminate the $1000 Macbook laptops. Buying overpriced laptops will not be cool anymore. Especially as Cloud-computing can be used for power users and professionals to speed-up rendering, editing and other advanced multimedia tasks.

  • MbotZ

    As a developer I can build any application for the netbooks and wont require the jerkoffs at Apple to Approve it, or give up 30% of my profits to em. these silly iPads … And the fools that buy em..

  • http://Cautiousclay.tumbler.com Cautiousclay

    There are PLENTY of things my iPad can do that no net book, laptop, or smartphone can. I'm a teacher, and can keep track of attendance, grades, and a million other things WHILE I'm walking around the classroom. I'm a visual artist, and the iPad is the FIRST portable device that can be a true mobile sketchbook. I've had other tablets, and none have the responsiveness necessary for drawing on the go. These are just a few examples.

  • Tornadoes28

    -1 flamebait

    No, it is not nearly impossible to predict demand for a new product. They were not even close to predicting demand. To have to decide to delay sales to all of Europe because you missed your projections that badly means you did a poor job forecasting demand.

  • http://www.cyclelogicpress.com Neil Anderson

    He's just sore because Palm's going down the tubes.

  • usedtowork

    Yes, and next year the entire population will be living in trailers and driving $1000 cars made in China. It's all about the price man!

  • http://www.cyclelogicpress.com Neil Anderson

    I'll bet you have a JooJoo pad to sell. They had what? 90 preorders?

  • http://www.cyclelogicpress.com Neil Anderson

    Watch out for the giant beetles.

  • http://greggish.wordpress.com/ greggish

    You completely missed, or chose to ignore, the word "occasionally".

  • Joe

    I completely agree with you on this William. I think the real issue is that people just let the wool be pulled over their eyes.

    There is no way that an iPad can do what a Real laptop, real tv, real music player etc can do.

    This whole "There is an app for that". Guess what I have plenty of apps on my computer, that can do that.

    I don't own a netbook either… it's really in the middle for being useful. I use my phone, but I'm not an average user. I need more that just some fluff of a device if I'm gonna pay $500 and then pay for 3G service. Seriously? it's like $1000 when you finish the whole deal.

    Not worth it to me sorry all you fan boys. I don't need the latest and greatest from Apple. I don't find any device to be magical. It's a fad

  • iphonerulez

    I do know one thing that the netbook did extremely well. It suckered in cheapsters into believing that the netbook was the ultimate and most versatile mobile platform when it was in fact it designed to be the weakest and most cost-cutting computing platform that would ever exist.

    EeeMachines and ASUS made out like bandits as the U.S. PC manufacturers cringed.

  • Joe

    I'm sure some people will argue about quality vs. price.

    In reality, we all know that apple marks up their stuff way to much.

    http://www.billshrink.com/blog/3891/iphone-versus...

    Proof is in the numbers people. I want the more economical solution. Plus… ok i'm from vegas.

    They are selling 1,100 sq. foot condos at Mandarin Oriental for over 1 million dollars. DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF HOUSE YOU COULD GET IN VEGAS FOR THAT MUCH?

    Same principal applies in my mind in regards to the cost and what you actually get (hardware etc.)

  • Joe

    Compare the following. Then decide.

    http://www.billshrink.com/blog/8245/ipad-vs-the-c...

  • iphonerulez

    Android is killing Google. They're not making a red cent off that platform. They couldn't even manage to sell a decent amount of their flagship Nexus One smartphone. Android will become an anchor around Google's neck and they'll probably end up dropping support of it in the near future.

    Rule One. No company makes money by selling products below cost. Wall Street and investors love profit margins.

  • iphonerulez

    Good one. I'm an Apple fanboy, but your graphic reply left me in stitches.

  • iphonerulez

    Well, why didn't you buy yourself a real notebook instead of a netbook? I don't mean a Mac notebook, but a better Windows notebook for a couple of hundred bucks more.

  • Billy Bob

    My netbook is pretty good at giving me a Linux shell, compiling source, providing a development environment, providing virtualization, etc.

    The iPad is pretty good too, though.

  • Jan

    Netbooks can do anything that a general purpose computer can do, but can it do anything well? It can certainly print, mount network shares, install any app in the world and play Flash videos/games and have web cam chats better than any iPad can. Does it have to do anything well? No. Does it have to be affordable, portable and deliver to it's intended market well? Yes and it does hence the sales numbers you see from Acer, Asus and the other PC vendors.

    The best and most valuable thing that a netbook does well is not inhibit users and lock them down to whatever Apple decides is acceptable at their whim. Apple has turned into the company in their 1984 commercial that they so despise. All Jobs wanted to do was be a combination of Thomas Edison and Sony, but instead he turned out to be the leader of a company that makes overpriced, luxury items of dubious worth that inhibit user freedom.

    Apple makes Microsoft seem like a bunch of open minded, freedom loving hippies.

  • Shaun Shull

    Netbooks make sense in the scenario you mentioned. I do agree with Jobs that netbooks are basically cheaper and slower laptops but in some circumstances that is what you want.

    I will say that the speed of the iPad is a huge draw for me, it feels like a fast device that loads very visually impressive apps quickly. It’s fantastic as long as it runs all the apps you need and you don’t require browsing flash-heavy websites. Kindle is a better e-reader though.

  • Josh Kaplan

    Think harder.

  • Raj

    I rather buy a netbook rather than an iPad. I need to use Office occasionally and I can’t see myself doing Excel on an iPad

  • Billy Bob

    This was kind of my point. Netbooks and iPads don’t really compare well. They both have their specific functions, and they both perform those functions well.

  • http://wereadit.co.uk/ Ceri May

    That was just planning, you should always over estimate your initial product line most stores nation wide are sold out, and delaying the European market is just treating them like the 2nd cousin.

    It is always the case for Europe to get things late but when the delay Europe release even further just because US demand is higher than expected really sucks.

  • Jan

    Netbook’s are great at multitasking, running a variety of OSes, having an open nature (eg: no lock down by the totalitarian, Big Brother regime that Apple has become) and coming in a very attractive price point, all things the the iPad cannot do. Moreover, netbooks are readily available at merchants everywhere and have a clear purpose whereas the iPad is a toy of questionable utility.

  • B Lam

    The only thing that Tim Cook really thinks hard about is Asian boys. Believe it.

  • Jan

    Other things netbooks can do well: mount network volumes and print. You know – basic computing tasks that have been around since the 70s.

  • http://www.macewan.org Robert MacEwan

    Even in buttphuc little Washington, NC people are getting iPads. The cellphone conversation overheard went like this… “yeah, we agreed to get new furniture and I get an iPad… yeah, me too… well, at least the 32G… I mean seriously…”

  • http://www.aufkeinenkreativeschaos.com LutzVA

    The iPad is a flop compared with Apple´s wish list.
    That´s boring adults 2.0 PR

  • Shaun Shull

    I’m not really sure how those sales numbers could be considered a flop by any means.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=609690987 David Berger

    If anyone believes that Apple is “shocked” by demand, I have a JooJoo pad to sell you. This is pure PR served up by the masters.

  • Shaun Shull

    Anyone know when the Google tablet is expected? I think it’s great that the tablet market is going to heat up with real competition. I love the cloud print concept, finally a way to print from all of these devices.

  • Sean

    Gee, what a surprise. Apple refuses to say anything good about the competition. Android is for perverts who want porn and netbooks.

    Well I got news for you Apple. I have an Android phone and I love it about 100x more than the iPhone i used to have. I also have a netbook and find it extremely convenient for traveling because it’s so small. On my netbook, I can multi-task, I can type with a real keyboard, i can do *anything* on it that I do on my normal computer (except games, but I don’t care about that when I’m traveling).

    So take your iPhone, take your iPad, and shove them both up your ass, ya arrogant fucks.

  • Sean

    By the way, Apple is just lying their ass of that demand is higher than they expected. Reports have been pouring since its launch that after the first couple of days of availability, Apple stores are simply overflowing with excess stock. They did not underestimate demand, they overestimated, but they’re of course putting typical Apple spin on it to make themselves look good.

  • Sean

    +1, couldn’t agree more.

  • Sean

    > Android is for perverts who want porn and netbooks.

    Meant to say “… and netbooks suck”.

  • tk

    I agree with you, Billy Bob. Not hating on the iPad, but as a student, my netbook is my friendly companion away from my desk.

    Between my triple boot, Adobe CS4 tools, and Office, all I could really ask for is a faster processor and larger screen.

    The iPad has its audience, and that’s cool, but I’d be hard-pressed to try and replace my netbook with an iPad.

  • William Palmer

    Every time they are mentioned and extra 50,000 seems to be added on, but hey that’s magic.

  • http://jacobian.biz Jacobian

    can’t wait for international launch of ipad.as I would really glad to have it.

  • William Palmer

    Maybe Apple should stop the spin doctoring and mud slinging, and actually do something about ipads that won’t charge up, ipads that won’t connect to wifi or actually managing to produce a toy (sorry magical device) that properly followed an almost 20 year old protocol (DHCP).

    Hell if they can’t properly follow 20 year old protocols why the hell should we listen to them about web standards that are years away from fruition.

  • tony

    For iPad being such a great product is kind of funny it needs so much PR and advertising – it makes you wonder if Apple second guessed themselves on its success.

    In any case any device that runs one app at a time will have great speed and good battery life.

    iPad might be great for browsing your photo album, and occasional web browsing, and maybe look like a good decoration at the coffee table – but than I don’t recall the last time i sent by my coffee table looking at photos. I do recall though requiring multitasking and a keyboard that works… almost all the time.

  • starrigavan

    Any app that meets the netbook's specs, you mean, right? You couldn't run the latest games could you?

  • Krugeri

    Sure, William the Biz Wiz… Apple isn’t at all legally required to provide accurate information in their quarterly SEC filings.

    Sarbanes-Oxley is just a suggestion for businesses. The SEC accepts ‘magic’.

    What an ignorant ass. But don’t let little things like facts get in the way of your hater-fest.

  • Brian D

    One thing a netbook does better…

    … recharging it’s battery.

    If you, like i, always go to those special seats with power outlets on flights… Netbooks win.

    I wonder if airlines will be forced to include usb connections in business and first class ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=24401558 Ted Dziuba

    Netbooks are good at, you know, running any app you want.

  • http://toshogu.blogspot.com Tornadoes28

    Tim Cook stating not having enough iPads due to high North American demand is a “good problem to have” proves he’s not the most brilliant businessman. It’s not a good problem Tim, it’s a bad problem. Business 101. It’s called poor forecasting. He should lose his job for doing such a poor job forecasting expected North American demand for the iPad.

  • Shuki Haiminis

    Don’t forget this is ipad version 1…in due time I feel that it will do what its big brothers MBP can do on this form factor.

  • zip williams

    Netbooks, no matter how slow, run Excel a lot better than the iPad. I’m talking about Excel, not Apple’s little pansy spreadsheet ‘app’. Apps are for playing around, not for real work.

  • Krugeri

    Hey, Bill -

    Did Steve Jobs accidentally run over your puppy? Or leave your Mom at the alter? I mean really, dude.

    My bet is that you not only don’t own an iPad but that you wouldn’t ever own one. So this laundry list of items is just your way of, what, spending your obviously busy life serving the public good?

    Go find something valuable to do with your life, Bill.

  • starrigavan

    Yes, you won't have to give Apple 30%. Of course you'll have to pay for your own website for your customers to download the app or if you want to sell it on disc you'll have to pay for that too. And you'll have to pay to accept credit cards. And shipping. And then there's the question of how your customers can get updates. A 70% cut of the retail price is an excellent deal.

  • starrigavan

    I'm missing something here. Netbooks use regular plugs like everything else right? So does the iPad. You plug the USB cable into the iPad power block then plug the power block into the wall and voila, a recharged iPad.

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  • Sarah Fitch

    That's why they're pushing back the European release? Because they actually have a lot of iPads in stock?

    The initial reports said that some stores still had stock the following Monday of release (release was Saturday, retail stores closed on Easter Sunday). Many were also sold out. It's very hard to gauge which segments to give higher stock and other segments to give "just enough" stock in retail.

    Apple's iPad sales are doing well.

  • starrigavan

    There do seem to be some wifi issues. I haven't had any yet, though. As for charging, that's a non-issue. The iPad charges fine when plugged into the wall. When using the usb cable to charge it, it will charge slowly on older computers. I'm not sure why anybody would leave their iPad plugged into their computer anyway. Kind of takes up a lot of desk space.

  • starrigavan

    Wow, it must be a really, really good conspiracy. The local store here has been sold out since day one. They're probably hiding them all some place really clever…

  • starrigavan

    You're comparing an iPhone OS product, the iPad, to the Chrome OS? Wasn't the iPhone OS released long before Chrome OS?

  • Sean

    The longer they take they may as well wait for the next gen iPad now so they can me-too all its new features

  • William Palmer

    Hey Cruggie.

    Not only would I never want to own an ipad, but I really can’t think of a single reason to own a slate of any description.

    There is nothing that any of them can do that I cannot already do better with things I already own.

    But if you really need (sorry want, there is no need) a toy that can’t charge properly, can’t connect to standard wifi properly and can’t even follow 20 year old network principles properly, more fool you.

    Meanwhile I’ll carry one not wasting money on the tech worlds’ equivalent of a ‘My other car is a Ferrari’ sticker.

  • RealityCheck

    Apple arrogance has no limit.

    33.3 million netbooks (pieces of junk) were sold in 2009. Netbook (piece of junk) shipments to retailers from January through March are expected to grow 33.6% compared with a year ago.

    Jobs and co want us to believe that the 70 million netbook users are wrong or clueless? I don’t think so.

  • josh

    …and by Netbook, he meant Macbook Air.

    “Think Schizophrenic” is now their official new slogan. Replacing its predecessor ‘Think Disillusioned’ (yep. the one with Dalai Lama poster).

  • http://www.mobileinc.co.uk Murat

    How about running Photoshop CS1 with no problems at all. For £200.

  • Dude

    -1 flamebait

    Predicting demand for a new category of product is nearly impossible. I’m sure Cook had some smart consultants do research to predict demand and to figure out the right production numbers based on risk.

    In addition having 300k ready at launch is already pretty incredible.

    Real forecasting comes into play when you have a track record of demand. Check out what he does with the iphone demand. He got his numbers pretty spot on with the 8.75million sold this past year.

    So yeah, I’ll defend Cook… but the iPad’s still a piece of shit. I’ll take a Courier.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=73801781 John Barker

    Can mount network volumes and print through many different apps available. Just sayin’.

  • Rag

    DO you have a problem if things are inexpensive, so "poor" people like us can buy them? seriously, f**k off

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=6710066 Benjamin J Schwartz

    Forget about chrome netbooks. I don't know what Google was thinking. Apparently it's partners also haven't a clue. Android, like iPhoneOS, is much better suited to a lightweight ultra-portable tablet. Think about it: you've got tens of thousands of great apps, both in the AppStore and the Android Marketplace. Why on earth would you want just a browser. Google needs to utterly abandon Chrome as an OS and end the fragmentation before it bites them in the butt. All they've got to do is improve Android's browser and incorporate some form of Flash that works well on a tablet and they've got some serious iPad competition. Can you say WePad? That thing looks awesome, and I'm a total iPhone fanatic (of course I'm Windows/PC to the core – I only do Apple mobile devices). If Google improves Android the tablet market will boom and competition will really heat up. That's what we all want as consumers. Microsoft already has (supposedly) their Courier in the works, and it (supposedly) runs WinMo7. Devices like these should run low power arm SoCs, with great battery life, and work as seamlessly as your iPhone, Android, etc. works now. Come on… netbooks with Windows7 or OSX? Are you kidding me? Not a great idea.

    Google! Forget Chrome and put your full backing behind Android. Chrome is akin to WebTV and that's a very, very bad thing.

  • prmd142

    Only play and no work is why america is the largest debtor nation in the world!

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  • Faxmonkey

    Wow, they pushed it back like, 3 days? Clearly that says "Genuine shortage" and not "PR spin on a minor rescheduling".

  • Tom

    I am sure the industrial design goes well with your LV man-bag. Other than that, it means jack.

  • Tom

    No, you cannot lie to the shareholders, but if you planned to sell 10k units and sold 100k, it's truthful that he's shocked. It means nothing as far as how many units they actually sold as that doesn't have to be broken down in an SEC filing.

    Once again, Krugeri, you fail.

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  • Roman

    You can't even watch a movie in bed on your iPad! No USB, no Flash, no Storage, no DVD-ROM, no Camera, yeah, I can't think of why anyone wouldn't want this crap!

    Regards,

    Roman

  • cmark

    What is it with you Apple haters. You categories everyone that uses Apple product as being some kind of sheep blinded by the hype and cool factor.

    When in fact its far more simple. Apples stuff is easier to use. It has occassional issue, but in the vast majority of cases both hardware and software works trouble free, and certainly it does'nt have any more issue than any other manufacturer.

    Vet few people give too much of crap wether you can do "serious" work such as excel spread sheets, or long word documents. It was clearly not conceived for that role.

    There may well be better options for each and every function the iPad currently does or doesn't do, but the average consumer does'nt have the time of inclination to scour the tech magazines for some obscure option that some other comapany is planning to come out with, that rumor has it will be faster better cheaper. As for Apples "closed" environment, I'm happy with that too. I prefer to stick with related brand products. i.e. i use only Epson inks, and papers with my Epson printers, it may not be cheaper but, I am more comfortable and familiar with it and the results more controllable. Same with the whole iTunes set up. Its easy to use and offers more than enough variety for my needs, for both work and play. If that costs me more, its worth it because time is money. I make more money producing what I sell using (in my case all Apple products) than shopping around, and finding these cheaper better option you Apple hater always gloat about, not too mention the time and hassle reading all those interaction manuals. Come on techie guys may know more then us Apple "sheep", but thats not what the average user cares about….. hence Apple's phenomenal success. Get over it and listen to some music… presumably on your Zunes or Zucks or whatever that microsoft iPod wannabe was called.

  • Jeremie C.

    Oh yes because you NEED to keep track of these things while walking the classroom, I am really asking myself how people managed to do it without that iPad since then. Just admit it, you're a sucker for Apple, you don't need it, you WANT it, and that's why you find "PLENTY" of use.

    Since you're a visual artiste I presume everybody will switch from the hi-res drawing tablets to the iPad very soon. Oh NO, I forgot, because it is bullshit again !

    As with all the Apple products, the worst thing in the iPad is still its fans.

  • cmark

    sorry about all my typos on the previous post. I'm tired, could'nt sleep. Also I'm staying at my in laws and was using their PC.

  • Jeremie C.

    Oh dear, no sleep + anger make for a terrible grammar

    uses*

    artist*

    - the

    - because

    Sorry for that :p

  • Jon T

    Got to laugh at these netbook/Android defensive comments here!

    The fact is, like it or not, Apple is producing stuff that people want to spend their hard earned cash to buy.

    Well done Apple for making stuff that works properly.

  • Dje

    It's complete non-sense. Just watch the last Diggnation episode, they have Ipad and you can SEE that ipads do worse than their usual laptops for the simple tasks they do during the show (browse internet, watch videos, read emails). Lack of flash and multitasking are real problems.

    But the biggest problem is the form factor, they must cross their legs to put the ipad on it, not very confortable.

  • Allaun

    Really? They worry about whats coming next? They not only ignore basic security models. They ENCOURAGE ignorance. Some might say, But the Macintosh OS is rock solid. Sure, because its based on UNIX foundations. But instead of being on top of the unix model of security, they ignore bugs for years. They tell their users that viruses CAN'T infect them. They basicly have encouraged anyone that uses their OS to ignore even a modicum of responsibility. Why? Because people complain when they have to LEARN. I challenge anyone to go into a mac store and ask them about their security model. Go ahead. I'm going to bet that the response you get is, What's a security model? Oh you mean the ones behind the glass? And before the accusations of fanboism come out, I feel the same way about most distros. I find some of the more prominent Gnu/Linux Distro's claiming there aren't viruses dishonest at best. When you base a OS on a *nix, you should at least make the attempt to encourage a secure enviroment. As the saying goes, Security through obscurity is a broken model.

  • Tom

    Sure you could — it may not run well, but it will run. That's more than what the iPad can say.

    Fail.

  • Donald_Twump

    ZING!

  • David Evans

    Put aside debates about formats and Apple's lock-down environment versus the open environment of a netbook (my 2c on that is that file format support alone makes a netbook more useful than an iPad), there is a more fundamental advantage of a netbook over an iPad; a netbook is comfortable. An iPad just isn't ergonomic for any kind of sustained use, and for that reason it fails.

    Maybe they should have some kind of folding cover you could use as a stand; and here's an idea, you could put a keyboard on it…

  • Aardman

    "my netbook is my friendly companion away from my desk . . . all I could really ask for is a faster processor and larger screen"

    Hmmmm. Li'l hamster not running on his little wheel today, huh?

  • J-C

    EPIC

  • aardman

    Have you figured out how much Microsoft marks up its software products? Hint: their raw material cost is virtually zero. Why aren't you upset about their markups?

    Except for a few exceptions (regulated utilities & defense contractors) no business ever prices its product at cost plus. They always price their products based on what the market can bear. If Apple products are worth their price to you then you got a fair deal. If they aren't nobody's forcing you to buy one and you can walk away.

    How come you can't grasp such a simple concept? Where'd you grow up, the Soviet Union?

  • aardman

    Anger? You are angry because some person whom you don't know from Adam said something that wasn't directed personally at you about a product and company that really doesn't affect the quality of your life one iota?

    Anger?

  • Wayne

    While you're maintaining your 70's perspective, the world is progressing. Check your calendar. I'm pretty sure it's 2008.

  • Wayne

    How do you know Apple didn't 'over estimate' the demand?

  • Wayne

    Wow! The Apple haters are grouchy this morning. What's the matter? Did someone steal your juice box?

  • Donald_Twump

    How is it the pc's fault that you suck at typing?

  • Brian D

    Yes, it was bait.

  • Peter

    "An iPad just isn’t ergonomic for any kind of sustained use, and for that reason it fails."

    Really? I read on one for several hours on Sunday and I didn't have any problems. It is heavier than my Kindle but I preferred the extra real estate of the iPad and the backlit (brighter) screen.

    "Maybe they should have some kind of folding cover you could use as a stand; and here’s an idea, you could put a keyboard on it…"

    Those case are already available!

  • Jan

    2008, 2010, who's counting?

    No, you're simply making an excuse for a lack of features. I always find it interesting how Mac users will always argue for a lack of features and limited usability as a positive thing. They are the only people on the planet who argue that less is more and will defend it to the bitter end even though they are taking a step backwards.

  • irony

    yet, we continue to lead the world in technology, medicine and science. weird, huh? why is it the rest of the world's countries send their kids to come study in the US. is it because we play too much here?

  • tatsuke

    I guess you've never heard of a loss leader, huh?

    I don't think Microsoft's xBox division made profits until 2008. Each console was sold at a loss. Now it earns hundreds of millions.

  • Tommy

    netflix dummy

    I thought the same thing- until I got it…

  • Brian Canton

    Words such as "Shocked" only cement the fact that Apple is very worried about the Ipad sales. They never had to sell the iphone like that it sold itself but the Ipad is going to be one soar blue eye in their faces. I even know people who rushed to buy it because of the medias lack of moral compass and their bias free coverage of the device yet since their purchase those individuals are just using their laptops, what does that tell you?

    Using an Ipad is a step back not a step forward in technology, if necessity is the mother of all inventions, this device would have been created a long time ago. Jobs has become so arrogant that he believes he can change human nature.

    Time will tell.

  • http://realestatekhoj.wordpress.com realestatekhoj

    I would just wait for the 3-4th release before I take the Ipad seriously, by then they would have easily got the USB and other stuff on it. Its just a waste of money right now.

    http://www.realestatekhoj.wordpress.com

  • Grey

    Really….you've now started finger painting? Congratulations…I knew you could do it.

  • david

    Well the stores are out of stock where I live.

  • david

    Let us know how YOUR multi-billion dollar company is doing under your stewardship as COO.

    Oh wait.

  • Jeremie C.

    Didn't say it was because of this article ;p

  • Krugeri

    No, Tom, I don't think so. As always you are in such a hurry to score a point that you expose yourself as someone with more passion than knowledge.

    William's point, so much as it is, was that Apple's executive officers are being untruthful in their public statements and are inflating the numbers of sales of a product.

    Apple will file a <a>10-Q which will breakdown sales over the quarter of each product line. Within that breakdown they can combine products into certain products categories but they CAN NOT LIE about ANYTHING. The CEO and CFO will personally certify the results on the SEC forms and will accept legal responsibility for their content. Not only will these officers be liable to the SEC for false documentation of performance but they will also be liable to shareholders who could take legal action separate of the SEC.

    And, yes, Tom… they can be held liable for knowingly misleading public statements outside of the formal SEC filings. Those public statements can impact share prices.

    And, please, call me Kru. It seems fated that we will be dancing for some time.

  • http://www.pulseontech.com CR

    Well, he's not the only one who's shocked. I cannot understand the frenzy over this thing..it lacks so much. I really think a lot of the people who stood in line and rushed to the stores to get an iPad were not aware of its shortcomings-they simply wanted to have the 'next big thing' coming from Apple.

    Just wait till it's upgraded tremendously next year and all these people have an outdated piece of hardware that they couldn't sell for half of what they paid for it!

  • Krugeri

    @Joe: "I think the real issue is that people just let the wool be pulled over their eyes."

    It can't be that they simply have needs different than yours. People HAVE to be stupid to buy an iPad, or at the very least easily led. Right, Joe?

    You are a paragon of open-mindedness.

  • Krugeri

    Hmm.. interesting position.

    It could be the same logic regarding iPhones. All of the Android fans want you to believe that the 50 million iPhone OS users are wrong or clueless.

    What say you there, RC?

  • http://Cautiousclay.tumbler.com Cautiousclay

    Just saying that there are uses for a device like this that you don't realize until you live with it for a while. It's very easy to sit on the sidelines and say it's useless. NOT saying it's perfect. The lack of camera and insane insistence on no file system, USB, etc. ARE annoying. Still, the form factor fills a lot of needs AND wants. If it doesn't fill one for you, don't get one, but don't assume it fits no lifestyle just because it doesn't fit yours.

  • http://Cautiousclay.tumbler.com Cautiousclay

    Man, it's like high school all over again.

    Actually I teach finger painting; k-12 art teacher. And as far as iPad art goes, it's better with a pogo stylus.

  • John S

    I wonder if Tim Cook ever tried out a Netbook?? Sometimes I wonder if Apple employee's are ever allowed to sample their competition. Because things like a iPad lacking a Camera or Flash seem to indicate a disconnect from what user's want.

    Sometimes I think you can be too closed to your competition.

  • http://ramonakent.wordpress.com ramonakent

    Just bought a Net Book…It seems to fulfill all my needs just fine…I will stick with it…

  • Brian Canton

    Yes, I went to the genius bar since I had an appointment and they checked me in with an Ipad, they use to do that with an I phone. But really now, who are you fooling?, there is very little need for an Ipad, its a nice to have gadget for people who are insecure and miserable with their own lives….

    How sad society has become, clinging to pretty shiny objects since they are so lonely.

  • JC

    >> Apple simply underestimated how popular the device would be right off the bat.

    Like that's something new. I worked at an Apple reseller in the early 90s. Mac Classics, original Powerbooks, the LC2, etc.– never an alignment between launch and supply.

    The Cupertino guys make some insanely great products…but their forecasting/supply chain/manufacturing still blows

  • Sean Wilson

    I call strawman.

    Computers have been complex for many types of people for many decades. Is that to say that because the iPad doesn’t live up to old standards that it fails today is very misleading. It’s like the people who said that the iPhone was inferior to an old BlackBerry because it didn’t have a keyboard.

    Sometimes improvement isn’t just having a longer list of features. Sometimes improvement is having the balls to cut off some features that aren’t appropriate or relevant.

    On the printing issue, I think this should be addressed sooner or later – enough people want to print that it is probably worth addressing. However, isn’t the iPad designed to be the medium on which we read and view this stuff? Isn’t it supposed to be the paper?

  • Sean Wilson

    I heard about these concept devices that are coming out lately – they’re like netbooks with larger screens and faster processors.

    They’re called computers.

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    You could run the other hundred thousand.

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  • Brian Canton

    "So poor people like yourself can afford them"?

    Who are you fooling or trying to fool?

    Must be nice for your to have so much money to buy a device that just lets your browse the internet on a 10 inch screen.

    + Apple built its imagine buy ALWAYS being a niche product with higher prices an sort of exclusive club. I dont think their target customers are poor people who complain about spending money for devices.

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    Wow Wayne… if you could read you wouldn't ask such a dumb question…

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  • http://ethangibson.com/ Ethan Gibson

    I think Apple are trying to sell a life style more than the devices, everyone I know personally who has the iPhone are bothered about how they're seen with it and how many other people in the room have one (maybe I just have really vain friends).

    All I'm going to say on this topic is that I'd have no use for an iPad, my netbook has the NVIDIA ION chip, and is more than capable of running Photoshop (fairly well actually, I think lacking a mouse is the only problem I have with running it), Microsoft Office and playing HD Videos (even through the HDMI port!).

  • NEEEEEEENTENDO

    They did that with the Wii. No idea why… had they just put them out on the shelves, they would've sold out.

  • gbhil

    Well I just used a netbook to build Android from source, and install it to an iPhone. I leave it to the next fellow to find the second thing a netbook can do well.

  • Kizito

    For sure you sound dumb as you might look! Do you need to be told that YES! an iPhone is plainly stupid to a BlackBery?

    Check out your stats if that is what kepps your head big… Sure iPhones may have all the hype but never all the market, BlackBerry is the king in America and Symbian is the king to the rest of the world. iPhone is the king to Geek wannabes, TechCrunch, MG Siegler and YOU obviously.

    I own an iPhone 3g, ever since I tried a BB bold with its world wide tariff, I never want to leave it down for more than 15 minutes.

    NB: If multi tasking was a 'battery-drainer', why INVENT it in OS 4??? And you still claim that using Multi touch is coppying APPL's patent??

  • Michael Manzano

    You are completely out of your mind! Try one more time.

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    Other than it being cool, not sure why I would want an iPad. Can i actually work on it?

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