How Random Is Microsoft’s Random Browser Choice Screen In Europe?
Robin Wauters
Feb 22, 2010

After a lengthy legal face-off, Microsoft and European antitrust officials recently agreed on the implementation of a so-called ballot screen that will give European Windows users a chance to download rivals’ browsers – including Chrome, Safari, Firefox and Opera – as possible alternatives to Redmond’s own Internet Explorer (see screenshot above or go here).

Under the terms of the deal, Microsoft has agreed to provide a “ballot screen” to most European customers that will offer links to downloads of browsers offered by the company’s fiercest competitors when it comes to the Web browsing space, starting next week. The browser choice screen was designed to give all listed browsers a random order upon each new visit; antitrust regulators saw this as the right path to take to make European consumers more aware of alternative browsers to IE without favoring one over the other.

But how random is the presentation of the browser on that ballot screen, really?

That’s exactly what the good people behind Slovakian tech news site DSL.sk set out to discover, based on the current implementation and code found on www.browserchoice.eu. Their findings were quite interesting, as they seem to suggest that the selection isn’t really that random as one would imagine, and that Microsoft is not doing itself any favors at all, when in fact it may even be giving Google’s Chrome browser a bit of an edge.

It took me some creative Google Translating to figure out how the team got to its conclusion, but finally a Skype chat with one of the reporters at DSL.sk cleared things up for me.

The page on www.browserchoice.eu is static, running nothing but Javascript. The guys at DSL.sk basically automatically loaded that page tens of thousands of times, and they kept score of which browsers were shown in which order for each of those instances. And not only did they test this sufficiently on this page, but DSL.sk did the same for the core Javascript algorithm that triggers the random ordering.

The test were run using Internet Explorer 8 on a Windows 7 machine, because the ballot screen will pop up in IE for users who install the relevant Windows Update and have set Microsoft’s browser as default.

More than once out of every four hits, the page would show Google Chrome on the far left, and Internet Explorer would only make it to the first spot in 13,8% of page loads (scoring well below all four other browsers). In fact, in over 50% of all page hits, Internet Explorer would come out to the far right spot of the five browser choices shown on the screen.

Here’s a table with the stats – the titles are in Slovakian but are simply indicating the order of the browser and its average position in the right column:

What’s most apparent is that Google Chrome scored ‘best’ out of five for all 3 first spots on the browser choice screen, and that Internet Explorer appeared on the far right way more than rival browsers. We should note that this doesn’t necessarily mean there’s a conspiracy going on – perhaps tens of thousands of hits are simply not enough to produce relevant results, or the results are skewed for a different reason. DSL, for one, claims the test results are quite stable and don’t seem to alter much when the number of loads keeps on increasing.

Be that as it may, it’s also worth noting that the ‘first spot’ doesn’t necessarily mean it’s also the ‘best spot’ – eye movement research could well conclude that the middle, far right or any other of the spots is actually the most beneficial one.

For what it’s worth, the DSL team says they had to make two minor changes to the code in order to run their tests mimicking the real behavior of the page as closely as possible, so theoretically the results could end up being more random than they appear based on the results cited above when the browser choice screen actually goes live.

Also, different browsers produced different results, although it didn’t matter much whether IE6, IE7 or IE8 was used for testing. Tests were also run in Firefox, baring completely different results, although there was never an equal distribution between browsers whatsoever, so even then the ‘randomness’ can be questioned.

Do you think the selection on the browser choice screen will end up being completely random, or will more exhaustive research ultimately show that there’s a consistent pattern of browser selection happening here?

(Hat tip to Patrik Hornik)

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  • http://nilsgeylen.com Nils Geylen

    This will be a win for Chrome in any case.

    This ballot will confuse Win/IE users who don’t even know they were using a thing called Explorer or what a browser even is.

    The one thing thing they *do* know is “the google”.

    And they’ll click it. Win.

  • HIOHIOh

    if you knew anything about statistics, you would know its random.

  • http://www.techretold.com Shan

    How Microsoft can say “IE is the most used browser in the world”????

    IE 8 is used only by 18% -25% and this would trick users into believing that it is the most used browser!!

  • http://www.techretold.com Shan

    Think about reverse! seeing on Microsoft and clicking on it!!

  • Robin Wauters

    Eager to learn …

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=90404723 Francis Pelland

    IE holds more than 50% (maybe 60%) of the market. IE is the most used browser. If it said IE8 was the most used browser in the world, you would be right, but it does not specify which version.

  • nkwu

    Exactly what I was going to say.

    This study is sort of pointless.

    This article is even more pointless.

  • Fred

    “The test were run using Internet Explorer 8 on a Windows 7 machine, because the ballot screen will pop up in IE for users who install the relevant Windows Update and have set Microsoft’s browser as default.”

    What browser do they use if they have not installed the relevant updates?

  • Matthew

    It’s a lose for a the common user who, I promise you, doesn’t want to make this choice or care. Dell and HP are going to be fielding a lot of angry phone calls from users who don’t know which browser they are supposed to choose and want an “expert” at the company to choose for them.

  • http://www.candygurus.com Matty

    Just playing devil’s advocate….

    This article assumes the first 3 options on the left would likely be the most clicked on. I actually think the center image would be.

    Also, (stay with me here…) if you were a director of a stage production, you know that stage right is the strongest place to put an actor. Stage right would be the farthest right link…

  • http://domramsey.com/ Dom

    …or you could just look at the Javascript yourself. It’s very simple. And random.

    http://www.browserchoice.eu/resources/scripts/page.js

  • gp

    i guess… just a bug!

  • pygo

    This is exactly what is going to happen. They could’ve set their description text to: “www.google.com” to confuse even more.

    Check out the following video if you don’t believe me

  • anon

    They “shuffle” the top 5 like this:

    function GenerateBrowserOrder()
    {
    var aBrowserOrderTop5 = new Array(0,1,2,3,4);

    aBrowserOrderTop5.sort(RandomSort);
    }

    function RandomSort (a,b)
    {
    return (0.5 – Math.random());
    }

    This is why their sorting fails on a statistical basis, depending heavily on their sorting algorithm.

    Here’s a page relevant to the topic for Javascript array shuffling (though discussing Mozilla only, and page doesn’t work on IE):

    http://sroucheray.org/blog/2009/11/array-sort-should-not-be-used-to-shuffle-an-array/

    What browsers use what sorting algorithms: http://www.smallapple.net/rnd/art/how_does_your_browser_sort.html

  • Wow

    Microsoft fair? No can be…this is TechCrunch! Pleeeeez.

  • fede

    random, I trust microsoft (only this one!)

    and… what about a little alpabethical order? First 3 at least …

  • anon

    You are truely out of touch. People click the blue “e” because its what they have used for years.

  • king

    it’s random enough.. geesus christ

  • Mark

    There is no randomness in anything computational.
    Furthermore, without knowing any more about the behavior of the random variable, there is no way of knowing whether this team actually got results that will never be seen again, or even if their results are just a set of data that is as equally likely as a set of data in which Internet Explorer appeared in the first spot every single time.

    This tells us nothing about the ballot’s randomness in the future, it only reports its randomness in a single set of trials with no relation to how it might perform in the future.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=503702723 Jeff Schnitzer

    How lame is this? The EU is still fighting the browser wars? Maybe soon they’ll wrap up the antitrust case against IBM for monopolizing the mainframe industry…

  • anon
  • staff0rd

    function RandomSort (a,b)
    {
    return (0.5 – Math.random());
    }

    why is this not random?

  • thomas

    When people are given a number sheet of 1 through 5 and simply told to circle a number they will choose 4 most often. This is because humans are mostly right handed but do not want to choose something on the end. Try it out. Get a bunch of people and simply hand them a paper numbered
    1-5 horizontally and say, “circle a number” and only give them a few seconds to do so. Most will choose 4. It is quite intriguing.

  • acidboy

    This is what I was going to suggest. Why on earth would a group regression test the randomness of something they have the source code for. Incredibly bizzarre.

  • Dan

    this is silly – anyone whos ever taken basic statistics knows that simple percentages as shown here dont mean anything. what would be useful to see is whether these percentages are statistically significantly different, but it doesnt look like they took the analysis any further than this simple breakdown

  • Douche Bag

    I don’t think randomness really matters that much, the majority will choose what’s familiar to them. And why is this newsworthy? A lot of shitty posts came out of TC lately and tot only MG’s capable of doing that, boy I was so wrong.

  • http://www.techretold.com Shan

    Here Microsoft is tricking users to believe that IE 8 is the most used browser in the world!

    whereas a combination of IE6,IE7 and IE8 holds the market share..

    So IE8 as single browser is not the most used browser..

    If a user is given 4 choices for a product (All are free) and one says that “I am the most used product around the world”

    which one you will choose?You will always choose the most used one! Like way here also a user would choose IE 8 as their browser..

    It’s unfair on the path of Microsoft ,I hope someone notices it!!

  • http://www.wistex.com Scott M. Stolz

    If you want to be on a list, if you can’t be first, be last. The first and last choices usually catch they eye the most, and are remembered most. Since Microsoft would get called out for being in first position 50% of the time, I would not be surprised if they thought the second best thing was to be at the end of the list, which is actually preferable to being in the middle.

  • tatsuke

    I’m no pro, but isn’t it because the function that calls for a random number is really just an algorithm meant to approximate a random number?

    ie. it’s simulated randomness

  • http://nilsgeylen.com Nils Geylen

    Perhaps. But the MS word mark isn’t featured that prominently as the Google one. So… we’ll have to wait and see.

  • anon

    Because it’s randomly choosing to move items or not, while iterating through a non-random sorting algorithm implemented by the Internet Explorer team.

    Not to mention the modulo bias when you consider Math.random() is 0<=x<1

    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/962802/is-it-correct-to-use-javascript-array-sort-method-for-shuffling/962886

  • tatsuke

    I’m too lazy and dumb to do any real work, but…

    1. If we take the author’s word that there were “tens of thousands of hits”.

    2. There are no unexpected, funky distributions.

    I’d be pretty confident in saying that random variance doesn’t account for IE finishing 5th over 50% of the time.

    Of course, this assumes that these guys know what they’re doing, which might be a bit much.

  • John

    This explains why…

    http://www.shawnolson.net/a/789/make-javascript-mathrandom-useful.html

    Also running this test (http://thepenry.net/jsrandom.php) where the round version mirrors your table above.

    Indexing arrays using decimals generated by random probably invokes the round function.

  • Brian D

    Would it not make more sense to serve the next page, each next page being a different combo ?

    Your 1st visit = static page with combo #2364
    Your 2nd visit = static page with combo #413

    and by make more sense, I mean prevent people from suggesting ‘random’ is not ‘random’.

  • http://vip-rakeback.com/ VIP

    It’s only randomness :)

  • http://qreo.net Marwan Yassin

    Agreed.

  • http://www.garthshoemaker.com Garth Shoemaker

    What does statistics have to do with whether it is random? They are not related. The randomness of it depends on the quality of the algorithm used to generate the order. Statistics are a tool that can be used to analyze whether or not it is random.

    Without more detail on the data collected it is not possible to analyze whether or not the results are statistically significant, but knowing that they took 10,000 samples, the results probably are.

  • http://www.garthshoemaker.com Garth Shoemaker

    Your argument is meaningless. What is the market share of Firefox 3.5.8? Oh noes, it is tiny!

    Their claim completely reasonable. And no, I, and many people, won’t “always choose the most used one”.

  • Jeff

    This is silly and petty. I suppose then to make you happy, Microsoft should not be allowed to say that their browser is not the most used browser, but they SHOULD then be allowed to add two additional slots: one each for IE6 and IE7. I’m sure they would be happy to make them available, with necessary security patch offers as soon as the download occurs.

  • http://www.garthshoemaker.com Garth Shoemaker

    acidboy, what source code are you referring to? If it is the JS code, then that is not enough to determine if it is actually random. You have to look into how the JS random call is implemented.

    They may have revealed a problem in how random is implemented in JS.

  • acidboy

    Yes yes, I understand that. But the point of this whole discussion, I assume, was to see whether MS was being “fair” or whether they were preferring their browser or not (as was the case). I’m quite certain the point of this test was not to determine the randomness of the random call on a particular JS implementation. But maybe I’m wrong.

  • http://www.pyrogenicmedia.com PyrogenicMedia

    Instantly thought that aswell. I actually thought this whole article was going to be about the brand recognition with Google.

  • http://www.cwo1f.com/html/y2010/329.html 微软的“随机浏览器选择“:倾向于竞争对手 | 逐梦驿站

    [...] 经过马拉松式的谈判之后,近日微软和欧盟达成一致,为了消除IE在Windows操作系统上的垄断,微软将让欧洲的Windows用户随机选择浏览器("ballot screen"),而且供用户选择的浏览器排列顺序是随机的,这一做法被认为是微软丧失了IE捆绑Windows的优势。当然,人们有理由怀疑微软会在随机性上做手脚,让浏览器选择屏幕的随机排序有利于IE,然而,最近外国机构DSL.sk的研究却表明,随机出现的浏览器实际上是倾向于IE的竞争对手,而不是有利于IE。 [...]

  • http://www.garthshoemaker.com Garth Shoemaker

    Ok, agreed. Looking at the code it is pretty clear that Microsoft wasn’t doing anything shady on purpose. However at the same time it seems that the code is not functioning as intended.

  • mike

    “They “shuffle” the top 5 like this”
    really ? OMG.
    who’s dumb enough to code such an “array sort” function ?

  • http://www.instantfundas.com Kaushik

    No, they will recognize the blue e, and click on IE8. Others won’t have a chance.

  • mike

    no it’s not because MS can still choose a way to have the best fake randomness… and apparently they choose the right place.

  • yann Lohier

    second thought : someone who doesn’t want a real random function :-/

  • http://iptiam.com iptiam (iPad, Therefore I Am)

    its a win for google. show that screen to anyone (computer novice / less advanced user /most advanced user ) they will click on google chrome.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=582753176 Ben Cannon
  • Jonathan

    No. That’s not necessarily random at all. It calls random for every comparison in a sort.

    But, what if this were a quicksort implementation that happened to choose the first item in the list as the partition? On average, that first item would be placed in the middle. It’s relatively unlikely to be placed on either end, because of how the comparisons are made in the quicksort algorithm. Some artifact of the sort implementation in the test browser is causing a bad distribution.

    This implementation is just plain wrong. It may be cleverly wrong if it “happens” to produce a result favorable to Microsoft. But, it’s probably just wrong wrong. As in the intern implemented it and didn’t think it through or regression test it.

    They need to use random() to choose a random number to associate to each browser, then sort those numbers in natural order. That would do it.

  • http://hancic.info Jan Hančič

    Maybe, just maybe (and please stay with me here) stage production is something completely different than screen real estate.

  • Jonathan

    You regression test because the human brain is not a compiler and your eyes will fool you. A 5 minute test would have saved this programmer from some serious embarrassment – and probably a chat with his boss.

  • Jonathan

    On chrome/ubuntu, the browsers flash in one order, then get randomly shuffled. IE is always first in the initial flash. Subliminal.

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    [...] 当然,人们有理由怀疑微软会在随机性上做手脚,让浏览器选择屏幕的随机排序有利于IE,然而,最近外国机构DSL.sk的研究却表明,随机出现的浏览器实际上是倾向于IE的竞争对手,而不是有利于IE。 [...]

  • http://www.chucksmith.de Chuck Smith

    Yes, but the general public in Germany and France have heard that MSIE is a security danger and I imagine many want to change, but don’t know how. The gov’ts of both countries have sent public warnings about this. I know my girlfriend’s parents (in Germany) heard this and plan to switch to Firefox. The problem is that people in general probably won’t know the other browsers.

  • Dave

    Finally some common sense.

    If you roll a die 60 times, you’re not going to end up with 10 1′s, 10 2′s, 10 3′s etc…

    That would be the opposite of random. Study is flawed, article is stupid.

  • Dave

    If you noticed it then it is, by definition, NOT subliminal.

  • http://www.sriraj.org Sriraj

    It is really random. But why does having a browser far left have that much of an Advantage over others?
    I don’t think Europeans are that uneducated.

  • Eduardo

    Is Safari really the world’s most innovative browser? Why aren’t you complaining about that too?

  • William Palmer

    There is no such thing as a ‘real random function’ when using computorial algorithms, all you can get is pseudorandom numbers.

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  • Steve ‘Chippy’ Paine

    Can’t believe you just spent time on this Techcrunch.

  • http://www.komplettblog.ie/microsoft-browser-ballot-interrogated/ Microsoft Browser Ballot Interrogated | Komplett Blog

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  • http://finbarrtaylor.com Finbarr Taylor

    Now I understand why Google has been advertising Chrome on billboards all across the UK. The adverts predominantly feature a huge Chrome logo, and they were just trying to get the image into your head.

  • Mark A

    Yes but everyone knows what the blue e stands for.

    On another note: How random is Apple’s choice of browser in Europe?

    Oh wait.

  • Robin Wauters

    My thoughts exactly.

  • Corey

    Since you sound knowledgable on the subject, maybe you can tell us the chance of rolling five dice 10,000 times and having the same die land on the lowest number 50% of the time.

    Then explain how that is “random”.

    Go!

  • Ender

    That’s because even though it doesn’t appear to be random it actually is. People are flawed and look for correlations like why is Chrome given preference from the random sorter when there is no reason why. Chrome could come up first for 100 refreshes and that is still random. It’s just that the brain doesn’t perceive this to be random behaviour when it actually is.

  • No me

    Measures of goodness of fit typically summarize the discrepancy between observed values and the values expected under the model in question.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodness_of_fit

  • http://favit.com/marfi Martin

    You got it all wrong – we read left to right – the end of a sentance – its culmination in other words is expected to be at the end (far right) therefore IE is place just beautifully there :)

  • http://sroucheray.org sroucheray

    http://www.browserchoice.eu/ uses JavaScript Array.sort() function to shuffle browsers on its page, I showed it’s not fair http://sroucheray.org/blog/2009/11/array-sort-should-not-be-used-to-shuffle-an-array/

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=54900769 Anas Hashmi

    Compare all the logos with each other. On each logo, the browser name is big and the brand name is small, except the Google Chrome. The Google is big and the Chrome is small. No other browser sticker is like that.

    My guess is Google will win, not because of placement but because of logo. People want to go to Google at the start of every internet session. They won’t know it is the browser that they are making a decision on. they will think it is the webpage.

  • brian gillespie

    You gotta figure the first and last place are the best spots. The typical user isn’t just starting from the left and stopping at their choice of browser. They’re reading through to the end and the IE will usually be the last impression. I’m sure people a lot smarter than most of us have been exploring this and have rigged the system. This is in no way, shape or form a random system.

  • You Cant Compete

    This whole lawsuit is ridiculous. Now the so-called competitors to IE can’t really compete, so they have to attack a pseudo-random browser selection. Of course wait until the users try to log in to their bank and they can’t get in because of the dumb browser they picked. Then they are going to blame Safari because of that (and rightly so). They’ll jump back to IE.

  • ziadoz

    Just because you can observe a correlation doesn’t make something any less random.

    Random really isn’t a difficult concept to grasp.

  • http://tungwaiyip.info/ Wai Yip Tung

    What? No Lynx browser??? Suit Microsoft!!!

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  • http://sroucheray.org sroucheray

    I fixed the page to make it works in IE. Thanks for the feedback.

  • Corey

    @ziadoz “Random really isn’t a difficult concept to grasp.”

    Holy lol, the irony of your statement.

  • http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/microsoft/~3/BEwHH1R0UQA/-the-javascript-code-on.ars TechCrunch has an analysis of how random the JavaScript code on www.browserchoice.eu responsible for the browser selection for Windows users in the EU actually is.

    [...] responsible for the browser selection for Windows users in the EU actually is. Read more: TechCrunch , DSL.sk about February 23, 2010 2:26 PM – by Emil [...]

  • Corey

    @ziadoz Let me help you out. Say there are five cards labeled 1 – 5, and someone offers you $10 for every time cards 1 – 4 is picked ranomly after he shuffles them if you give him $30 every time card 5 is picked. You would take this bet, correct? Because 10,000(.8)(#10) – 10,000(.2)(3#0) = $80,000 – $60,000 = $20,000

    And if he goes on to win 50% of 10,000 trials, you would be okay with the fairness of the shuffle because “Oh well, it was random”?

  • http://ivanbernat.com Ivan

    Who cares?

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    [...] to". Of course, you could always disregard the prompt as random… but from what I've read, it's not as random as you think. Well played, Microsoft. You walked into the EU tables facing a fine that only you could walk away [...]

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  • ziadoz

    So your saying something random should be predictable based upon the original odds?!

    Did you even read what you just wrote? You really don’t understand random.

  • PeteH

    I had already made my choice (IE8 and FF3.6) and am now faced with a page asking me to make a choice but with no obvious way of getting past it (it reappears at next boot). Click ‘install’ for IE8 just takes me to the same page as clicking ‘tell me more’ and clicking ‘install’ for FF gets me a download for 3.6 (which I just upgraded to a couple of days ago)… there is no obvious ‘set default browser’ and/or ‘next’, the only other options being install another browser or ‘select later’ (which doesn’t appear in FF)

    I’m not a noob, so it’s either broken or I appear to have locked down the browser somehow without knowing

  • http://www.DIETODAY.co.uk mr DIE

    yeah thanks microsoft, it was all a little random after my update to see this window.. i thought it was a smart scam!

    and had to check it twice before even believing this random pop-up that came when i restarted.

  • Corey

    “So your saying something random should be predictable based upon the original odds?!”

    …yes! That’s what expectation is! You have to be joking.

  • Corey

    Answer my questions so that I can see how poor your understanding of randomness is. Here is the equation again with the formatting issues fixed:

    10,000(.8)($10) – 10,000(.2)($30) = $80,000 – $60,000 = $20,000

  • http://2718.us/blog/2010/02/24/randomizing-by-random-comparison-sorting-revisited/ 2718.us blog – Randomizing by Random-Comparison Sorting (Revisited)

    [...] that randomly returns < or > (with equal probability).  My exploration was prompted by a report on the non-uniformity of the distribution of the random orderings of the browsers in Microsoft’s EU browser ballot.  I had said that [...]

  • http://www.cyperior.eu/ballot-screen-wettbewerber-bieten-%e2%80%98unabhangige-beratung%e2%80%99-zur-browserwahl/ Ballot Screen: Wettbewerber bieten ‘unabhängige Beratung’ zur Browserwahl | CYPERIOR – Web Gazette

    [...] Cracks aus der Slowakei mittlerweile herausgefunden, dass diese Zufälligkeit wiederum eine gewisse Regelmäßigkeiten [...]

  • onecommenter

    This is just too much, no computer can produce true random activity without repeating itself, much like the human arguments on here, going round in circles.
    It DOESN’T matter, I use what I want to use, no ballot is going to change that, most don’t care as long as it works for their hour or two a day.
    Get off your high horses you arrogant little geeks and let people get on with their own lives.

  • http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/25/microsoft-ballot-disregards-issues/ Microsoft Claimed to be Cheating in Web Browsers Ballot | Boycott Novell

    [...] discriminatory treatment of ODF in its new ‘ballot’ dialogue. Well, according to this report, Microsoft might also be cheating in the ballot that displays Web [...]

  • Jose_X

    I doubt these percentages will play out in practice unless Microsoft has done their own testing and expects that, at the point in time people will chose, they will likely favor where IE is.

    I would not be surprised if the update (or related update) that adds that screen to users also tweeks IE’s javascript random generator function (at least for many users) so that in practice the IE option is placed in the spot Microsoft thinks will be ideal more times than not.

    BTW, it appears Microsoft can rework the algorithm all they want whenever they want, right? So besides that the final product might be different in statistics, if this screen pops up later on under various circumstances, voila, the algorithm can be changed for these other occasions.

  • Jose_X

    Perhaps a conversation might go something like this:

    “Sir, there is no right one. They are all fine.”

    “Well, my screen does show one on the right.”

    “Sir, if you want to pick the one on the right, then I think that is the best choice.”

  • http://www.robweir.com/blog/2010/02/microsoft-random-browser-ballot.html Doing the Microsoft Shuffle

    [...] the Slovakian tech scene, I didn’t hear about the story until it was brought up in English on TechCrunch.  The gist of these reports is this: DSL.sk did a test of the “ballot” screen at [...]

  • Eruaran

    This video is dead on. I have lost count of how many customers I’ve dealt with have absolutely no idea what a Web Browser is. I don’t know how many times I’ve been on the phone and asked a customer to open their web browser and they have no clue what I’m talking about until I mention Internet Explorer, and even then they don’t understand Internet Explorer as a program but as a generic term as in, “Oh yes I have an internet explorer”.

    I find this level of ignorance regarding web browsers, which have been with us for what, 20 years? Truly staggering.

  • http://www.pcblog.ru/2010/03/01/microsoft-obvinili-v-podtasovke-brauzerov/ PC Blog » Blog Archive » Microsoft обвинили в «подтасовке» браузеров

    [...] фиксировала порядок отображения браузеров, передает Tech Crunch. Тестовый компьютер, на котором была запущена [...]

  • indivp

    Should a browser selection option not be obligatory for all platforms, not just for Windows? BrowserChoices.info lists many browsers for multiple platforms. Everyone should have the same freedom regardless of what platform they use.

  • http://popboxsocialmedia.com/dashboards/?p=210 Opera 10.50 Lands On Windows, Mac And Linux Version ‘Coming Soon’ « POPBOX

    [...] for European users of the OS, presenting them with a choice in browsers (supposedly random, but not in reality, as we pointed out last [...]

  • http://www.tsonev.com/main/2010/03/opera-10-50-for-windows/ Opera 10.50 for Windows | tSoNeV.com

    [...] for European users of the OS, presenting them with a choice in browsers (supposedly random, but not in reality, as we pointed out last [...]

  • http://www.tecnoreview.it/2010/03/05/browser-choice-il-predominio-di-internet-explorer-e-finito/ Browser Choice, Il Predominio di Internet Explorer E’ Finito | Tecnoreview

    [...] la visualizzazione avviene in modo random, ossia casuale, ma da alcuni studi effettuati da TechCrunch e ArsTechnica, internet explorer viene visualizzato, nel 50% dei casi, nella parte superiore destra [...]

  • http://read.melodycode.com Daniel

    Check it, very funny Ballot Screen:
    http://www.realbrowserchoice.eu
    LOL!

  • http://www.basicthinking.de/blog/2010/03/09/wieder-trouble-um-ballot-screen-microsoft-bessert-beim-zufallsgenerator-nach/ Wieder Trouble um Ballot Screen: Microsoft bessert beim Zufallsgenerator nach | Basic Thinking Blog

    [...] in der zufällig erstellten Anordnung der verfügbaren Browser entdeckt: Sie war nicht ausreichend zufällig. Die vorderen Plätze wurden statistisch gesehen nicht [...]

  • http://userdriven.dk/2010/03/12/nu-skal-min-mormor-v%c3%a6lge-browser/ Nu skal min mormor vælge browser « Userdriven.dk

    [...] Fra 17. marts skal vi som Windows-brugere til at vælge hvilken browser vi vil bruge – hvis vi da ikke vel at mærke allerede har skiftet til en anden browser end Internet Explorer. (se hvordan det ser ud) [...]

  • http://www.mediaviews.de/2010/04/13/apple-we-love-you-please-dont-be-evil/ Apple we love you – please don’t be evil | MediaViews.de

    [...] even imagine that this would happen … not in an era where Microsoft is forced to ask users which browser to use when installing [...]

  • http://qualityguru.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/testers-tools-addressing-for-5-most-popular-web-browsers/ Tester’s tools: Addressing for 5 most popular web browsers « Quality Guru's – Home of QA/QE SW Testing Workshops

    [...] testing tools are based on FireFox and its good extendability, but now when Microsoft introduce a Ballot Screen, How_the_IE_ballot_screen_works for Web Browser selections, we will need to have tools which is at [...]

  • Kecal

    Microsoft was a veteran software company, best known for its Microsoft Windows operating system and the Microsoft Office suite of productivity software.

    Now it started with dissemination of computer viruses, malicious, spy and pirate software.

    Recomendation: Try switch yourself to another company, which does not loose your trust.

  • http://www.webcamwithmicrophone.org Microphone

    i think IE will win.

  • http://www.webcamwithmicrophone.org John Green

    ie will be win in random pick

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