If Google Wave Is The Future, Google Buzz Is The Present
MG Siegler
Feb 9, 2010

See our live notes from today’s Google Buzz event here.

Google has a problem. Despite having their hands in just about everything online, they’ve never been able to tackle what is a key part of the fabric of the web: social. Yes, they have Orkut and OpenSocial, but no one actually uses them. Okay, some people use them, but not in the meaningful social ways that people use Facebook or even Twitter. Today, Google may have just solved their social problem.

Google Buzz is easily the company’s boldest attempt yet to build a social network. Imagine taking elements of Twitter, Yammer, Foursquare, Yelp, and other social services, and shoving them together into one package. Now imagine covering that package in a layer that looks a lot like FriendFeed. Now imagine shoving that package inside of Gmail. That’s Buzz. If Google Wave is the future, Google Buzz is the present.

FriendFeed Reborn. On Growth Hormone.

Fundamentally, Buzz is a stream of status updates, pictures, links, and videos from your friends. You can “like” these items and you can comment on them. And if you use Flickr, Picasa, Google Reader, or Twitter, you can also automatically have those items imported into your stream. And Buzz will recommend items you might like based on your friends’ activity.

Yes, again, it sounds a lot like FriendFeed. But it has a critical component that FriendFeed never had prior to its acquisition by Facebook: a massive installed user base. Maybe you missed the key bit of wording above: it resides inside of Gmail. Rather than trying to build its own new social service from scratch, Google is making Buzz a key part of their email service (right below the Inbox tab) that 176 million unique visitors each month, according to comScore.

Social Curation

Buzz also wants to differentiate itself another way: social curation. As Mike wrote about the other night, the social web right now is largely a mess. There’s simply too much going on, and no one is really working to sort it all out. Google is trying to do that with Buzz by allowing you to import items from services like Twitter, but only show you the best ones. For example, Google says it will hide quick messages like “brb.” The plan is to also auto-collapse items that don’t have a lot of comment activity.

For now, this data is sadly only a one-way street. That is to say, you won’t be able to update your Twitter account from Google Buzz, we’re told. But Google seems to be indicating that this functionality will be included eventually, and that overall they’d like the product to be as open as possible. And yes, there will be plenty of APIs. But one company noticeably absent from all this talk of importing and exporting data is the 800-pound social gorilla in the room: Facebook.

The Big Mobile Social Play

Listening to Google tell it, you’d almost think Buzz is just as much of a mobile product, as a social tool inside Gmail. And it just may be. Google is heavily touting the ability to use Buzz immediately on the mobile web if you’re using an Android phone or an iPhone. The reason they’re singling out those two phones is that their HTML5-compatible browsers support location. Location is a big component of Buzz on the go because Google not only want users to update their statuses, but to tag them with where they are when they leave it.

And while Google has its own location app, Latitude, Buzz works a lot more like Foursquare in that you select places to say where you are rather than a specific coordinate. This is an extension of the Places pages in Google Maps that were launched late last year. The use of Buzz alongside these locations make them ever more powerful. You can search to see only the Buzzes written from certain places, for example.

Buzz will also work within the Maps app on certain phones (such as Android phones, but not the iPhone — at least, not yet). And it will work inside the Google Search apps on the iPhone and Android. Perhaps the coolest thing about that is that you can use the voice search functionality to speak your buzz update if you just say “post buzz” and then say your buzz out loud.

Social Issues

Some big question marks remain for Google. First of all, one big reason they’ve flopped in the past with social implementation is because they seemed to have fundamentally flawed views about what a social graph should be. For example, when they first tried to make Google Reader more social, they automatically ported over your Gmail contacts to give you friends. The problem with this was that they auto-chose people who you were in contact with often based on emails and IMs. But in some case that may be your boss, or someone else that you’re not actually friends with.

With Buzz, Google is giving users more granular controls for friend settings, but they’re still suggesting people based on your Gmail social graph, which may or may not reflect your actual desired social graph.

Also, believe it or not, there are plenty of people without Gmail accounts. Are they going to sign up and start using an email service just because of Buzz? People certainly haven’t started using Yahoo Mail just because it added social features.

The One Stop Shop

Another problem Google has had when it comes to social elements is that they’ve never really had one place to let users share all their social data. Now they have that with Google profiles, which apparently, Google Buzz will be built into. Still, because Profiles are separate from Buzz in Gmail, it might be a little tricky for some users to figure out.

Complexity

Speaking of complexity, overall it’s another issue that Google Buzz may run into. Twitter works because it’s so simple, if you have a public account, your tweets go to anyone who is following you. Buzz is not that simple. There can be public or private buzzes. The plan is to also have buzzes for enterprise and educational users. In those cases, public buzzes may only be available within your company or school, while private would still be private to other individuals in your network. You can see how the social graph is starting to get a little more complicated.

Another thing is if someone comments on one of your buzzes, it will leave the Buzz area of Gmail and go into the Inbox area of Gmail, so you know someone is talking to you. That actually sounds pretty cool, and even better, you can reply right from there (another feature taken from FriendFeed), but I could also see that getting a bit confusing for some users.

The Battle

Without having had a chance to play with it yet, it would seem that the core idea behind Buzz is to take on Twitter and Facebook as the easiest way to share content online. Google is offering a number of compelling features such as smart curation (it gets better as you tell it what you like and what you don’t), and a rich mobile experience including location.

Because of the features it adds on to what Twitter does, and its overall look, it’s hard not to compare Buzz to FriendFeed. That service was arguably the better product than Twitter, but never took off in the same way for whatever reason (though I would argue that simplicity was a big factor). You could say the same thing for Twitter rivals Pownce and Jaiku (which Google actually bought) in the past. But by adding it to Gmail, Google is giving Buzz a great weapon to succeed where all of those others could not.

The big question is: will Gmail users buy into this quick sharing? Google thinks so because it’s a part of the evolution from email, to IM, to status updates. It’s also, in their eyes, a part of the evolution to the next step, Google Wave. So far, the public has proven to be not ready for Wave yet. But Buzz might be the perfect tool in getting people to think about communicating in a way beyond email and IM. Or it may be another misstep in Google’s social quest.

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  • http://www.paulsanduleac.wordpress.com Paul Sanduleac

    Extraordinary! We’ll see how it goes further.

  • http://digitizor.com Ricky Laishram

    Sounds very promissing. I wonder if Buzz will kill of Twitter

  • http://www.ignimedia.com igniman

    “Sorry twitter, you were too slow. Facebook, we ‘ll let you live.”

  • Steve Jobs

    This is fail. Too little, too late. Google needs to stop imitating and start innovating or my company will crush their souls.

  • http://techcrunchies.com Anand Srinivasan

    Looks like a scheduled post…Isn’t MG supposed to be attending the live event!

  • Soong

    More likely kill off Jaiku…

  • vedichymn

    Maybe it’s just me, but this sounds almost exactly like what Microsoft did with Windows Live. Is there something else that I’m missing?

  • http://www.ilogon.com Anthony

    Hmm, sounds great and all, but I don’t use Gmail. I don’t see this being a Twitter killer if you need a Gmail account to use Buzz.

    I don’t mind (don’t like it, but will try) creating a new account on a social network, but will not create a new email account just to access Buzz.

  • http://twiturm.com Kayem

    When will it be seen in gmail?

  • youngluck

    Spoiler Alert: No.

  • Etrigan

    “So far, the public has proven to be not ready for Wave yet.”

    Which is a fanboy’s way of (trying to avoid saying) Wave is a big fail.

    This, too, will fail. Why? Look at Twitter: a tiny percentage of tweeters produce the bulk of the tweets. It’s a broadcast medium: a few tweet, many listen. Social it is not.

    Facebook too is a different beast from e-mail. It is inherently public, and itself a public space. E-mail is inherently private. People don’t want to mix the two.

    Microsoft tried this with their Live Spaces and ‘your network’ crap that just turned Hotmail into an annoying mess. Yahoo tried it and failed with their status updates and ‘connections’. Why does Google think it will succeed where they failed?

    Even more trenchant is that this will only be a network of Gmail users. What happens when most of your friends and family use Hotmail or Yahoo? Simply sending a group e-mail is a much more effective method of communicating with friends and family.

    This was the Google everybody claims was so innovative. Aping Twitter and Facebook. If the iPad was when Apple jumped the shark, Wave was when Google did the same.

    Fail.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jfrydakis Jason Frydakis

    Agree!!! Just imagine how many people do not wish to login to Twitter, especially youth!! and most of them I believe they have Gmail. Add easy access to profile pages via web…

    And then, add Mobile Google Buzz which was just demonstrated… and from what I saw it will not just “solve Google’s social problem” but make a big difference!! Especially when it will be introduced to other Mobile OSs too!

    Wave did not even produce all that BUZZ in the first day!! ;)

  • http://chicagoareawritingproject.wordpress.com cawptl

    When does it come out?

  • orbital

    wow if google wave is the future it’s a bleak future … nuclear distraction is preferred

  • liompa

    Buzz?! Really? What is this, the 90s?

    Google is moving away from what made their search so successful: speed and simplicity.

    Give me a speedy simple alternative to Twitter and Facebook, please. Start by feeding my status updates to my profile. That would already kill Twitter.

    Make profiles work consistently across Youtube, Picasa and other services. That > Facebook.

  • Jamie

    As much as I love Google this will not be one of their great successes. If they had done it 3 years ago they might of had a chance but anyone wanting to network with their friends is on Facebook and anyone wanting to post/share things is on Twitter. I see nothing here that will turn this into a great success.

    It looks fairly good but the fact is social networking relies on a network of friends and my Gmail contacts contain more employers than friends which is no great way to start a social network.

    Long and short of it is everyone is on Facebook now.

  • http://www.yashladia.com yash

    I liked the auto follow feature.There’s also good privacy features like you can share a photo publicly or privately.The other features are just copied from other social networking sites.Lets see what happens!

  • steve

    Best writeup I’ve seen so far, thanks for the breakdown. Long-run they are heading towards facebook, but this will bring about better products on all of the platforms. All a matter of getting mainstream on board with a new perspective on communication.

  • Jean Vence

    How impressed are you with Google Buzz? –

    Global sentiment poll being taken at http://qulse.com/q.jsp?id=62

  • TooBad

    Too bad they weren’t able to acquire Yelp. Integrating that into the mobile results would have been fantastic.

  • will

    why would it kill twitter when it imports tweets?

  • Andrus

    what’s with the name?

  • http://socialblazeapp.com Cassie Rice

    To be honest, I really don’t think this will work because of a point you actually made – the contacts problem. A lot of the people I email are not friends with me and I don’t email a lot of my friends, I text them or message them on Facebook. If they imported my friends from Facebook to Gmail, it might have more potential though – although, replacing Facebook is difficult. There is so much information shared on Facebook and you wouldn’t be able to see a lot of it with Google Buzz. Plus, people have created habits of uploading photos and other information on Facebook. In general, it is hard to change habits. I don’t know how they would get so many people to change unless everybody was doing it – which is a difficult task to achieve.

    To me, I think this is going to be another flop.

  • http://www.unanimocracy.com A.B. Dada

    While I like how Facebook and other social networks operate, I don’t see why we need such a one-stop backend system to handle social networking. I don’t even think Google can attack things how they need to be attacked.

    First of all, I’d rather see a social network that is built organically using a system such as OpenID with some sort of XML-styled metadata that allows people to host their own social network information. Since they host their own (or use any number of third party hosts), they can decide what information to share with anyone (individuals, groups, networks, the public), as well as generate income from people who are visiting their profiles (over giving it up to Facebook or Twitter or whatever).

    Since most of these items would work just fine using RSS-style feeds personalized to the person who is reading the feed (via privacy settings of the feed generating person), most modern Web 2.0 standards would do just fine with such a wide reaching social “network.” Custom CSS themes would even allow people to set their own viewing structure for the entire distributed social network (like a reverse MySpace system where you pick how you want other’s information to look), as well as structure weighted ratings of who you would rather see over whom else.

  • http://www.ipadgamesover.com/ iPad Games Over

    And what if wave is not the future??
    Anyway, how come your favicon changed to the default WordPress icon??

  • Stamos

    I could not agree more. I have Gmail, FB and Twitter accounts for TOTALLY different reasons and “buzz” does not replace any of them in a way that would worth the energy to re-build networks, followers and social circles. I do not see the new product picking up, at least not in the way Google expects. It looks like first-mover advantages are really strong in the social communications space and the only way to set foot is via really disruptive solutions and this is more like a “me too” veture. I will not even consider the service but I will be curious to see who and why will adopt it.

  • Mitul Suthar

    “But one company noticeably absent from all this talk of importing and exporting data is the 800-pound social gorilla in the room: Facebook.”

    I just enjoy how MG writes. Good Job MG

  • http://www.unanimocracy.com A.B. Dada

    Forgot to mention that NoseRub.com is sort of what I’m talking about — I am not affiliated with them.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jfrydakis Jason Frydakis

    What will be interesting to see and I believe will count for the “success – not” that you mention is how “public” it will be. With Facebook you cannot share stuff with everyone as in “public” you still need to have an account. So let’s see in the next few hours or days how Sharing works in Google profile pages.

    With Twitter… I don’t think you can stream all that stuff… without registering and using additional services for video, photos and the rest! + Twitter as I mention above… I think it is not being used that much by youngsters and emailing is in the decline.

    So BUZZ maybe the answer to all this! Let’s see!

  • http://mandyboyle.com Mandy

    Still wondering what use of Buzz will mean for brands. Granted, I know this thing was introduced just a few moments ago, but I’m wondering who will figure out what the the hell we’re going to do with it first :)

    PS – Don’t think this is a Twitter killer either. Different goals, different audiences, and different functions.

  • Zeke

    Hasn’t Yahoo! done the similar thing a year and half ago? I believe it is called Updates, or oneConnect or something else.

  • http://www.facebook.com/davebroham David Abraham

    It has a good chance of taking on Twitter…but one of Facebook’s killer feature is cohesive photo integration, Buzz does not match this.

    No threat to FB at all.

  • leslie

    Nah, But I guess, this could be the answer that we are all waiting for…

    How to arrange the big social-mess (created by FB, twitter, etc? Answer: Google Buzz.

    Well as for the ‘google wave is the future’ part, yes I concur. Details: http://bit.ly/google-wave-why-should-you-use-it

  • googleguy

    and yes we copied Yahoo! Buzz and Yahoo! Mail social integration apps

  • Morgan

    I’ve been wondering lately why Gmail, Yahoo, and Hotmail don’t just team up on something like this and put Facebook away, or at least get a leg up on them.

    I thought of it when I was looking at Yahoo’s additions, but same thing applies. Would be pretty cool I think to just go within webmail products.

  • dave “The Apple Fanboy”

    God bless you Steve ! Or whoever you are…

  • :-O

    The future — Calls for Steve?:

  • Stephen Meier

    Great article. Twitter = too simple, Facebook = Too closed, Buzz solves both issues. Excellent points on “getting social”, they should take notice and close the gap. The feature I would like is an ability to share my group list and collaborate with other like in Docs.

  • Ben

    That’s what the Google Wave should’ve been.

  • :-O

    Complexity killed the cat — the overwhelming majority of the world are NOT geeks, like us.

    Come on, Google! If you want to be a mass market consumer-focused company, start developing products for the non-tech masses.

    You know, the kids who stole made fun of you and stole your lunch money before you solved that math riddle on the billboard & got your gig at the Googleplex….

  • dave "The Apple Fanboy"

    Pathetic…simply pathetic.

    Is this the best you can do Google ??

    The name is the only real thing of this product : Buzz…Google today is able to create just buzz and hype for half cooked, copied, pointless products.

    And TC…I’m so disappointed, that Arrington’s teaser about how Social is today a mess as Search was before Google came to save us, just to justify this…thing.

    TC = Google PR ?
    I need to ask because it seems that here you are really reaching the limit of decency.

    The only result that “this thing” will achieve is : kill WAVE instantly (the fake product launched to create buzz during Bing launch, that nobody understand).

    99.999999% of people will continue to use Facebook and Twitter.

  • evano oruvan

    If there is no option to turn this off, I will abandon gmail altogether.

  • saber

    Well, its is a minority that uses Orkut. But that minority is quite a sizable number in an emerging market, India. I wonder if Orkut will be abandoned by Google. It’ll be a pity if it does… Lots of activity and lively communities there.

    I wish there were some kind of porting feature which enabled you to port Orkut communities (mainly discussion threads to other networks).

  • Josh

    Add Facebook Connect, and I’ll bite.

  • http://dumpsterventures.com/wayne Wayne

    Does anyone else find it interesting that Google launched a product as big as Buzz, but it doesn’t have a beta label anywhere? Is this going to be a new paradigm for Google?

  • Tyrell Thor

    Based on what factual data is Google Wave future? Future of what – pretentious tech analysts’ endless ramblings? Successful software identifies patterns of human interaction as opposed trying to change it. Google Wave is a colossal failure and the only people not seeing it are the types admiring abstract paintings: “it’s confusing, useless and nobody understands it, plus it comes from a big name, must be good”

  • FreeTibet

    I’ll go out on a limb and say this buzz for “Buzz” will not cause people to sign up for Gmail. In fact, I’ll add that people with Gmail will continue to use Twitter and Facebook. I just don’t think Google has a handle on social. Perhaps they should google it.

    ——————————

    Tiananmen Square

    Overthrow China

    Free Tibet

    There. That should get their attention.

  • Kyle

    Maybe because they owned by three different corporations? That’d be my guess.

  • David Majer

    The problem is that all my network / friends are on Facebook, not Gmail!

  • Saul Henriques

    Social networks continuos with the same problem, organize content from many friends. Buzz not change anything

  • David Majer

    I should say all my media-rich friends are on Facebook. And I have a lot more facebook friends than i do Google contacts.

    Facebook is compelling because it allows my to surf across social graphs. Will Google turn me on to my friend’s friends?

    For me it’s all about finding awesome people I never knew existed.

  • http://www.costumehost.com Costume Blog

    must take down twitter

  • james shamenski

    But AT&T just released buzz.com which is similar but more aardvark-ish…

    Name Fail

  • Chris

    now.

  • Tom

    hmm, that sounds all quite complicated. I would be worry about all my information flying around and about losing track of who can read it and who not.

  • skeptical
  • http://www.tonangi.com Vinod Tonangi

    I was completely underwhelmed. Put more resources towards your real time language translation app – now that’s something revolutionary…this is just…well a pathetic attempt to be trendy.

  • http://www.tonangi.com Vinod Tonangi

    I’d argue that Google Wave shouldn’t have been made at all.

  • Phil

    buzz is lame

  • Oog

    What would MG do at that point? He’d have to split his ass-kissing fanboi-ism between Twitter and Google. That most likely would induce Schizophrenia.

  • anon

    If Buzz fails, Wave is DOA.

  • http://iphoneglance.com iphoneglance

    This is absolutely crap, i posted a so call buzz and im still waiting to see it 30 minutes on. This isn’t going to work google, stick to search engine, stay away from social networking and phones.

  • http://www.geekyclown.com GeekyClown

    This seems to have a better UI for the masses than Wave ever would have had. It was just way too hard to use. I will be interested to see if this takes off, does the world really need another social networking site?

  • eric_MEDL

    I’m thoroughly annoyed that Google keeps making these announcements about products that most people don’t even have access to. If you’re going to do a launch, then let everyone try it!

    Geez, by the time I get access to the Buzz, the buzz has already worn off.

    And don’t tell me that the Buzz is in “Beta”.
    Google, don’t a pull a “Toyota” and think that the way you did things before is the way you should do things now.

  • http://domramsey.com/ Dom

    This just seems a bit dreary – but as it doesn’t work with Gmail for domains, I have no way of trying it.

    Nice one Google! Another sure-fire social media winner!

  • http://www.mediahound.biz Edward OMeara

    I can imagine that the Google Buzz logo also sent the Microsoft team into fits of anger. I mean, c’mon, has Google no imagination or sense of self?

  • cachodebestia

    WOW! I cant believe I predicted this exact thing in my comment yesterday :)

    http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/08/google-to-unveil-broad-new-social-product-tomorrow/

    Unfortunatelly it doesnt work for me… maybe a geolocation thing?

  • Z

    borrrrring. complicated and borrring. and without facebook also useless.

    i don’t care for my gmail contacts. most of them use different email services and all real friends are on facebook.

  • :-O

    But it already arrived. And is already dead on the vine.

  • http://www.shifz.com magnus

    i commentet on just one single “buzz” and now my offline inbox is being spammed with an email for every other comment on that buzz.
    no like dat.
    there gotta be a new option installed in gmail: don’t download buzzes to offline POP3 clients

  • http://stoinov.com Stoinov

    The social web
    is a total mess
    who you gonna call?
    Google Buzz!

  • Daryl

    Good spot Wayne!

  • inthewoods

    Seems to me that it would be easier for Facebook to go after gmail than the other way around. Facebook users already have the level of interaction – they just need a mail client (which they are developing). GMail/Google needs to change the behavior of their users. A taller order. I’ll definitely check it out.

  • ASK

    This is interesting news, because I am sure that: 1. Twitter will not last, but will evolve into something that retains its strengths but not its weaknesses, 2. Google has a leg up on the branding and adoption front compared to others, not to mention developers. So what if it’s not innovative? Improving on existing technology with proven high demand is just as good a business strategy as creating new technologies yet undreamed. Probably better.

  • Pete

    Yeah and no one uses it. good luck to google on getting any more adoption than yahoo.

  • http://www.blog.beevok.com E

    I don’t think (I could be wrong) anyone truly figured out the purpose of a social network yet, that’s the problem (e.g. a newspaper you read the news, printer you print paper etc).
    That’s the problem.

  • http://www.blog.beevok.com E

    I could be wrong, but I don’t think anyone has figured out the purpose of a social network yet. That’s the problem. IMHO

  • http://www.blog.beevok.com E

    Sorry for double (now triple) comment!

  • Sean

    > [Facebook] is inherently public

    Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahha

    *ahem* Sorry… couldn’t help myself. That’s the most ludicrous statement I’ve ever heard.

  • Sean

    By integrating it into Gmail, I think it has a decent chance of success. I’m not really that interested in it, but that certainly gives them a big advantage.

    One thing I can’t stand though is how everytime a company does something like, software or hardware, everyone talks about how it’s an “X”-killer (e.g. Twitter-killer).

    Why does every new product have to “kill” something else? And when it’s clear that it won’t “kill” its competition, every proclaims it to be a total failure.

    This gets old people. Things don’t have to kill other things to be successful.

  • DP

    Three things suck here:

    1. I can’t feel cool about myself because in Google buzz I don’t have a number of followers that I can think of as my friends or at least a small army.

    2. That photo viewer is great and all, but I think the last time I came across a Picasa or Flickr album was when I made one and no one looked at like 4 years ago. It needs to pull in my friends facebook albums.

    3. I hate foursquare as much as the next guy, but as a user it’s cool that they have those badges and so forth. Like the first point, if you throw a tweet/foursquare (bounce?)/photo album/video into the cloud and no one responds to it, why bother?

    Google is missing the point on a few key issues. With twitter part of the fun is getting lots of followers, and foursquare is about getting badges and points. Google has neither.

    Calvin and Hobbes said it best, When your numbers go up it means your having more fun!

  • Mattheww

    Once you view someone as a friend it’s hard to see them as dating material, and a similar principle I think keeps people from embracing Google as a social network.

    It doesn’t help that the company seems to fundamentally not “get” fun. Their interfaces are always efficient, but also kind of spectacularly drab.

    Still I wouldn’t count them out. The machines that eventually exterminate us will probably love buzz.

  • Jordan

    Tired of Google aping the Windows/Office logos. If you’re going to steal, steal something good.

  • Bharathi

    I use Trackle to get real time updates around the web.Good if google buzz comes up with a RSS/API ,so that i can get all my google buzz alerts in trackle.

    http://www.trackle.com

  • Mark

    Buzz seems pretty great.

    lol@the video link: rick roll’d.

  • youngluck

    Get lost troll, no one cares what you think.

  • http://rohitprabhakar.com Rohit

    But the question is will it really make a buzz? Read what I thought at http://www.rohitprabhakar.com/2010/02/10/google-buzz-will-it-really-buzz/

  • http://silentegos.com/ Silent Eagle

    So, I just tried to use Buzz on my Sprint HTC Hero, which is NOT equipped with anything remotely close to Android 2.0+. No Buzz.

    Thanks Google. Thanks Sprint. Thanks HTC.

    Oh, but it works on iPhones. You’re funny, Google, Inc. Way to go on supporting your base of avid supporters and fans.

    And, until I can actually go into a retail location and check one out, I’m not interested in the Nexus One.

  • http://benisrael.posterous.com Ben Israel

    I have a few concerns though. Firstly, is the complication of email. We know the pitch Google made when they launched Wave. They talked about how email takes up time, is too complicated, inefficient and all that. But doesn’t adding an entire lifestream into your email just make matters worse?

    Secondly, if we were recently accusing Facebook of trying to make people’s lifestreams public (to gain further revenue), isn’t this Google trying to make private email public? Oh, I’m sure they’ll have security and privacy buttons, and all that. But, now there’s an OPTION to have your emails made public. Which, grants Google further access to your private information. Think about it.

  • sk

    I think thats because in this one they need to hurry, and their ass is on fire

  • Andrew

    Great post. Totally agree. How disappointing to see Google imitate all the time. They have zero innovation outside of search.

  • http://rohitprabhakar.com Rohit

    will it really Buzz? I think it will not atleast with the current package. I am not impressed! Read more at
    http://www.rohitprabhakar.com/2010/02/10/google-buzz-will-it-really-buzz/

  • mtron

    The Google Account/Buzz privacy settings are a mess. Creating a Buzz from my phone tells me that I must have a public profile. I go to my Google Account, and I’m forced to either 1) Expose my full name (it’s my email account, 2) Fake my full name in my email. Google buzz does not allow me to hide my profile from search, or expose only a nickname/handle. This just doesn’t seem right. or I’m missing a profile setting somewhere…

  • PhillipJ

    LOL!

    Are people really this stupid?

    Wave is a set of open protocols and technologies for realtime communication and collaboration dimwit.

    And you are actually trying to equate it with the big new social networking site?

    Boggle.

  • PhillipJ

    Poor liddle Steve Jobs…

    Still bitter over becoming the laughingstock of the computing world with the iPad flop.

    Having “the most important things you’ve ever worked on” become the poster child for crappy and pointless overhyped products with the iPad fiasco has got to sting.

  • PhillipJ

    Wow, yet another little kid who is too stupid too grasp something as simple as Wave isn’t a social networking tool/site.

    Congrats dimwit!

    Wave is a set of open protocols and technologies for realtime communication and collaboration dummy.

    Scary that there are people dumb enough to honestly be posting that Wave and Buzz are even remotely similar.

  • http://dotslashraj.blogspot.com Raj

    Any new app coming up in the world will not be able to overtake @twitter for its simplicity and openness…… Guys, can you follow and convey some message to @billgates or @barackobama using Buzz ?? In that matter, is there a liberty to ping any celebrity so easily as on Twitter.. ? I agree, this is something funky and new, but its is ‘Twitter Killer’, I DON’T AGREE.

  • PhillipJ

    This idiot’s post is even more hilariously pathetic if you picture the clown jumping up and down and peeing his panties over the piece of garbage iPad unveiling fiasco…

  • http://www.sriraj.org Sriraj

    My first impressions are ‘Wow, this is extraordinary’.
    Buzz is far more easier to understand and work with compared to Wave.

  • http://digitizor.com Debjit

    It imports tweets may be only as a startoff and then Google can move to it’s own platform!

  • http://www.ebizfair.com Rigved

    Just another anti-twitter campaign.

  • http://leifandersen.net Leif Andersen

    Meh, they announced it, and released it, but they haven’t allowed everyone to have it. Or at least it’s not in my gmail account. As such, I had to complain about it: http://leifandersen.net/2010/02/10/google-buzz-and-the-invite-craze/ I still want in though.

  • Joel

    Google’s 20% time pays off again.

    Four days a week, you mash up other peoples innovations into an over-engineered pile of junk.

    On the fifth day, you come up with a name for it.

  • Matroger

    2010, at least three over hyped launches, Nexus one, Ipad, google buzz, none up to the mark, I think there is a inclination to suck up to Apple and Google, for a lot of things, free event spaces, sponsorship for events, free hyped events, or perhaps a gig, so that really influences all such fan boy ( and fan girl ) opinions, seriously guys, come on….this is getting little lame….

  • http://danny-fr.blogspot.com @Danny_Fr

    Before using big word, read that:
    http://bit.ly/c6XhnZ

  • http://danny-fr.blogspot.com @Danny_Fr

    They don’t give anything new here. Just aggregate some trendy features and attach it to GMail.
    I don’t think we need another entry point to share our lives.

    I totally agree with A.B. Dada.

    This move leaves me pretty skeptical…

    I answer this post here: http://bit.ly/dxKP42 (shameless self promotion, but also a bit long, I don’t wanna clutter :p)

  • Greg

    It’s cool and all, but I saw the name and was hoping Google finally started brewing their own beer, bumber.

  • http://techcrunchies.com Anand Srinivasan

    Google Wave will be dead by the time the invites reach everyone..

  • orbital

    yes it shouldn’t … what a waste … and this buzz stalker app …

  • orbital

    already is. people don’t even want any invites after they see this nauseating puke of an ‘app’ …

  • Ryan

    Honestly, I want Gmail to be my email, and Facebook to be my social network. Why would 400 million Facebook users and still growing…change?

    I think Google is grasping desperately to dominate everything but they risk failing at everything because they are losing focus at what they are: A search engine. A relevant tool for coming across everything online. They are the tool for websites and blogs. News feeds and information. They need to focus on making their search engine even more relevant and focus on bridging the blog and social network separation that still sort of exists. In other words, they need to do what they are good at. Facebook will not be taken down, they are delusional if they think it will. So if they are launching this to compete with Facebook, it won’t work. If they are looking at perhaps the business community..which still uses email day to day and where they could see this a relevant move, it might be a good tool to add. But as for the average social networker..not a chance. Mommy and Daddy/Grandpa and Grandma just finally got on Facebook, so I don’t’ think the boomer generation has time nor cares about the “new” expanded gmail launch. They are too busy looking at the pictures of their grandchildren they can now so easily see on Facebook. I don’t think Google gets that the whole world ain’t geeks like them. and it took a long time to get grandma and grandpa onboard at Facebook.

  • http://gayle gayle

    Utter crap.Google has only one interesting product- that’s google search.After that the so called engineers are just fooling around doing nothing.
    i would rather say shame on google- for investing their adrevenues ino this sort of crap.

    social networks are just a passtime.- nothing really constructive happens out of all this.

  • http://gayle gayle

    you r the stupid one- i think.
    Google has nothing great other than their search engine.
    so you are able to see through -protocols huh !.
    social networking is just a pass time.

    Atleast microsoft has some solid platform products like: Os’s & development studios.

  • http://udtekbattery.wordpress.com udtekbattery

    good.there are so many social ways to choose.
    and i don’t know which one is good for me.

    http://www.udtek.com

  • http://udtekbattery.wordpress.com udtekbattery

    good.there are so many social tool .i don’t know which one is good for me.

  • http://gayle gayle

    I dont believe it- these guys are engineers from mit and standford and all they can do is build social web applications to chat and connect.dont even compare microsoft and apple with google.
    Market capitalization and profit from ad revenues mean nothing.
    Thank god howver that – google still has a search engine that’s better off than most.else it would be a disgrace.

  • http://gayle gayle

    i bet philip has not studied past high school.his brain is just not able to comprehend – that google is doing rubbish.

  • http://gayle gayle

    “pretentious tech analysts’ endless ramblings ” – Exactly .

    You dont need a Vicepresident of engineering to get products out like this.

    Wave is such crap.No one can figure out head or tail of that application.
    google is living on past glory – it’s search engine.

  • http://gayle gayle

    Just read through all the posts from beginning to end and you’ll know who’s the dimwit.

  • Ashok Amar

    Saw the Google Buzz Ad.
    First tried googlebuzz.com; strange they did’nt take that one.
    Never knew a butterfly that could “buzz”; I mean flutter yes but buzz? This definitely is “future”.

  • tagxtaguru

    Google seems to have come up short with Google BUZZ…Tagxta.com offers the most open solution to share and track anything with anyone including friends on Facebook and Twitter ..

    See rest of article at http://tagxta.com/tag/v.do?i=53
    and follow tagxta at http://www.twitter.com/tagxta

  • Delboy

    I found this excellent Google Wave Community site. hhtp://waveaccess.webs.com

    It is early days but the idea is brilliant. By becoming a member you can go to the forum and request an invite. Fellow members will then send you an invite. You can share your Waves with others within the community.

    There is also a Communal Google Wave embedded on the site where, if you have Google Wave, you can edit/add to the Wave – I have even been chatting to people via the Wave.

    Google Wave has massive potential.

    Thanks for a great article.

  • http://buzzlr.com serdar

    maybe.. I dont think it’ll kill Facebook even Twitter. Google is not successful about social things, and Facebook does not seem beatable right now, or future.

  • magnum

    How to arrange the big social-mess (created by FB, twitter, etc? Answer: Google Buzz.

    Combine it with Google wave and we’ll surely have a party now! Details: http://bit.ly/google-wave-why-should-you-use-it

    Thanks leslie

  • http://www.richardvanseenus.com Richard van Seenus

    There are so many sites its hard to keep up, and I now receive email solicitation from a users that find me a social sites. Just gos with the territory I guess.

  • http://favit.com/infographs Martin

    This post is a masterpiece – thanks a bunch!

  • Pablo Rolmos

    The Buzz icon reminds me a bit too much of AVG Antivirus’s icon.

  • dave "The Apple Fanboy"

    PhillipJ just forgot to take his pills today.

    WTF is he talking about ?

    Have you guys noted how trollish and freakin mad are Google fanboys around ?

    Potential serial killers…

  • http://www.debatewise.org David Crane

    Gmail? Google Maps? Google Voice? And Google Wave is revolutionary.

  • http://www.microarts.com/?s=we Walter Elly

    The Google v Facebook battle is definitely heating up! Google’s been no the run from Facebook for some time now – Facebook’s even going to go after search – more on that if you’re interested – http://bit.ly/FacebookVGoogle

  • adey

    No Facebook integration. No desktop version. Utter FAIL.

    FB is the best for my needs.

    Twitter is just full of media wankers talking up its importance – and a few stars making it seems bigger than it is. Active user base on twitter is tiny = just over 1 million. Accounts does not = users.

    This will fail like Vodafone 360. and it deserves to.

  • http://www.youthcanvas.com gaurav

    i am running this website which has current news updates, looking forward how Buzz can make a difference to it. Twitter is probably doing.

    In India, probably we have to wait further to get it executed.

  • http://www.youthcanvas.com gaurav

    all the best to Google!!
    We here have to wait.

  • http://ted.mielczarek.org/ Ted Mielczarek

    You really think it’s a fiasco? It hasn’t even hit stores yet. I think it’s kind of dumb, but I also think they will sell millions of them, making Steve even richer. Looking at their track record, it’s not terribly wise to bet against Apple products.

  • kat

    Who cares!!! My boyfriend thinks the same with me. He- is eight years older than me, lol. We met online at- Agemingle @ c o m a nice and free site for Younger- Women and Older Men, or Older Women and Younger Men, to- interact with each other. Maybe you wanna check out or- tell your friends.

  • Derek

    There’s also the issue that you need someone’s email address to add them to your Buzz. That eliminates most celebrity and corporate/CNN-like twitter users, which I’d argue is the main thing people do on Twitter. Unless, of course, all these people start making fake gmail accounts just for buzzing.

  • http://promagz.info Krish

    I occasionally visit gmail.com. I use Mozilla Thunderbird most of the time. Wonder how popular Buzz will be.

  • Dagan Sandler

    I’ve never heard of Yahoo’s social services as I’m a gmail user for many years now, back from the days when joining was by invite only.

    While Buzz looks like something that might be interesting. I doubt Yahoo mail users will join gmail for it, just like I doubt that I would have joined yahoo for their social services.

    In addition, I didn’t like the friend suggestions Buzz gave me when I checked my gmail this morning.
    It suggested one of my teachers in uni, a guy that’s incharge of organizing the schedule for a non-profit organization I volunteer in, and some other random e-mails I’ve recently had contact with (someone I bought a used rare book from)
    These are not the people I’m friends with, and not the people I’d like to receive updates from.
    I keep in touch with my friends on Facebook, and to be honest, I don’t even have my friend’s e-mail addresses except a very few, and I definitely don’t know if they’re even gmail users.

    Buzz might be the next great thing, but it needs some sort of interaction with Facebook in order to really use that potential.
    I know most of my friends, who are not techy people, will never switch e-mail accounts for that. If they were willing to switch accounts, they would already be gmail users. Google needs to reinvent itself.
    Maybe with a gmail-facebook app?
    ;)

  • http://dumpsterventures.com/wayne Wayne

    I don’t believe that. If anyone felt the need to hurry to get into microblogging, it would have been in 2007 and that’s not Google. This has clearly been cooking for a long time across all of its products.

    I think Google’s polarizing its products into either “official” or “labs” categories, and it’s spending a longer time in house with the official items. Notice that it’s already talking about integrating Buzz into apps. This is a highly-orchestrated business move, and nobody rushed into it.

  • http://gayle gayle

    google maps i agree – but that was a acquired company.

    google voice – come on. in voice stuff – the good ones are skype and now there’s a firm called tringme.

    gmail? -innovative. ??

    what did u like abt wave? it’s already dead.

    google is too much a media savvy organization.-with less core products.

    talk abt real enterprise innovation.

  • grey

    Correction to the story———-Buzz does NOT work on most google phones,
    and it DOES currently work on the iPhone.

    Strange, but true.

    Ironic? Only when Apple makes a social networking site that works on google phones but not all but the latest iPhones ;)

  • http://meanbusiness.com smcnally

    like ning.com?

    or, google buzz, perhaps?

  • http://mycontextualads.com Dj Das

    Google:

    Two points I want to tell you:

    #1: Simplicity is what we (the people) seek

    Remember when you become our darling? When you started having a home page with only a simple search button. Don’t forget that and don’t start stuffing everything into anything, the way Yahoo, Excite and other search engines did with their home pages in those days.

    #2: Innovation is what really attracts us (the people)

    Your search engine was simply innovative and better than others. We loved it and started using it. Now, in an attempt to solve the social mess, please don’t copy (hoping that your copied versions would succeed because of your user base) but innovate. You are best at it.

    Look at your roots and you will succeed.

    A true fan of yours,
    Dj

  • http://lynrob.netsalaries.com/ Robert Lynch

    I’ll stick with Facebook. Google is getting enough of the internet pie.

  • Zc456

    Its slowly being rolled out.

  • Rafael Luna

    This is exactly what I don’t like from google sites. They are not fully integrated into a single google account yet. You can access every single microsoft service with your windows live id. Why should I have to create a “youtube” username when loggin to the site with my google account?

  • http://ptechnorati.blogspot.com Paramendra Bhagat

    Buzz is not a Twitter or Facebook killer, it is a Gmail enhancer.

  • Fernando

    And what about Thunderbird or Outlook users? Those are totally out of Buzz. In fact, it’s pretty anoying getting an email for each buzz…

  • berneval

    Sempre aposto no google, o e-mail é exelente; o navegador tambem é exelente, não tenho o que falar de mal, Só tenho que elogiar e mais nada. Quanto o google Buzz fico calado espero que seja o melhor, Mas?

  • http://www.kimmama.com Kim

    I’ve noticed that a handful of my friends have already started using it – as have I. My gmail is open all day – not so with my Twitter – so I think Buzz is going to become my main tool for that reason alone. It’s one less step, one less window to open.

  • David K.

    Overhyped? By who? Blogs like TechCrunch and people like you maybe. Apple hardly said a thing about it before release but the tech world got itself whipped up into a frenzy and then when Apple introduced something that, OMG, wasn’t for them, they erupted into nerd-rage.

    The iPad is a great device for a large number of people. Power users (aka the people who read this blog) probably won’t want it, because its not for them. Its for your mom, or your tech-light friend, etc.

  • asd

    haha…good one…

  • http://lovethecool.wordpress.com lovethecool

    Obviously I want an iPhone app for Buzz; can’t be launching the browser every time I want to check in. Huge barrier to entry.

  • Richard

    Hey Google! Thanks for taking a big hairy dump on my privacy!

    So… how’s that “don’t be evil” thing working out for you?

    Oh… okay… well, better luck next time!

  • dan

    Its strength is its weakness-contacts, gmail integration. Email accounts are sticky-people use them and stick with them. They don’t change. No-one changed email accounts just to sign up for facebook or twitter. But they more or less have to for gmail. It’s not cross network. Facebook adding aim proves this- even though it’s rubbish, aol mail keeps people as they don’t want to change, not as it’s any good. That’s the only reason people still use this. Msn the same. People only use it as others use it. Fb solved this as you use any email to board a new open platform. No email change. Open buzz to fb, twitter or other email accounts-just make it an open sign.in, and people may use it. Otherwise, it’s as closed and dead as any other social site or email.

  • A. Noyed.

    For a while, I’ve been wondering if there’s an internal competition in Google to see how much crap they can load into GMail before people start jumping ship. Now there’s no longer any doubt.

    GMail is a pretty good email program. It’s a pretty lousy email-contacts-todo-chat-videoconference-newsreader-calendar-sandwichmaker.

    The fact that they’re (a) adding big new features before fixing the unusably-broken features it already has, and (b) not speaking of Google Wave any more, both indicate to me that they’re still just flailing around, trying to score a miracle “social media” hit by pure luck without understanding it at all.

    If I didn’t think they’d screw it up, I’d say they should swallow their pride and just buy Facebook, just like how they built Google Video, heard the crickets, and then swallowed their pride and bought Youtube. The Google Buzz intro video has a Youtube logo in the corner, the announcement has a Blogger logo in the corner, and they’re talking about it with users over Twitter — Google is king of Search and Webmail, but for everything else they’re second-class at best.

  • Anton

    Because Google bought YouTube – meaning there were 2 sets of usernames – YouTube and Gmail.

    Some of these would have matched, but not been for the same user. Their Choices were to throw out one group of users, or associating Google accounts with YouTube.

    The reason you still have to sign up is because your email account name may already be in use.

    It’s really simple if you think about it.

  • lawl

    Guaranteed the iPad will be a success. Lock it up.

  • lawl

    Ding ding ding… we have a winner. Google obviously didn’t think of this small detail.

    HELLO GOOGLE… no one will leave Facebook to come to his half baked app that lives in Gmail!!!

  • http://www.flyingpenguin.ca Doug Johnson

    I agree with the people who hate Google Wave. I believe Google Buzz suffers from too much complexity. ( If you care, my complete thoughts, are here http://bit.ly/b3TQBn,) Do you really want to share photos and video with your friends using a system that also contains your boss an email address?

  • nakosy

    One thing that we are failing to see is Google has the ability to monetize the social networking unlike Facebook. Imagine that Google uses your space for context based advertisement and shares the profit with you. Will you still keep your facebook? Probably, no!

  • http://somethingtocareabout.blogspot.com/ hitzilla

    I dont think Buzz wont kill anything. But It can buy something and host under its banner. Thats was google’s major business in last few years.

    They better focus only on Search & Ad business. Because, It needs many revolutionary improvements in this new decade.

  • justpublished4you

    Interesting that Microsoft came out like this against Google Buzz

  • http://www.palmprehut.com/chargers Palm pre chargers

    Google Buzz, rather like Google Wave, is an indication of a company in intellectual trouble. It’s another “stab” at what is going on. Google has been left behind by the social web, something it failed to predict and something which it is struggling to work with. Indeed, Google has effectively given up the social web to Twitter by incorporating Twitter into its search results. With Buzz (why did they choose the same name as Yahoo!?) you get a way of adding your Tweets to Gmail. You also get a way of adding documents to Gmail more easily.

  • octohead

    The privacy breach in Google Buzz’s launch is disgusting. Google Buzz is an opt-out service. You have to manually stop your email contacts from viewing your other email contacts. Utterly unacceptable and a violation of Google’s own stated privacy policies.

  • http://tonclip.com onigetoc

    I don’t know 98% of the 800 peoples in my gmail account, for fun i search for people with gmail account. 99 peoples and i don’t know anybody in that list

  • http://www.wtstechbr.com Marcelo Bernasconi

    “Despite having their hands in just about everything online, they’ve never been able to tackle what is a key part of the fabric of the web: social.”

    I disagree about this, google ALREADY HAS a social tool, although it’s not a kind of microblog, but is a socialmedia tool. Do you ever heard about orkut?

  • http://wisepreneur.com Innovation

    Many argue that the US Constitution has no expressed right to privacy. If it did, this app might be dead on arrival.

    I’ve already removed myself from Facebook because of people hacking into my friends list and spamming them. Now we can get the same result on a larger scale.

    Because I use gmail, I automatically had Google Buzz appear on my screen. No thanks. I’m out.

  • Chris

    I have two gmail accounts and last night, my first gmail acct received a buzz alert that I had uploaded a video to buzz on Feb 12 using my second gmail account. all that would be fine if not for the fact that I didn’t upload a video on Feb 12. In fact, the video included in the buzz post was uploaded by me to youtube back on Oct 1, 2009 and at that time, I had just sent a link to the video to a few people in my family. it seems that google just initiated a buzz post without my involvement/consent – has anyone else experienced this?

  • http://www.themusicvoid.com Jay

    Seconding some of the other comments here, this is a great article. It’ll be interesting to see how Google fare in the social networking world. We, at The Music Void, investigated the whole issue of ‘Buzz’ ourselves and this is what we came up with – http://bit.ly/dbSvPu

  • http://www.themusicvoid.com Jay

    Seconding some of the other comments here, this is a great article. It’ll be interesting to see how Google fare in the social networking world. We, at The Music Void, investigated the whole issue of ‘Buzz’ ourselves and this is what we came up with – http://www.themusicvoid.com/2010/03/buzz-makes-it-easy-to-share-a-little-too-much/

  • http://www.twittermysearch.com TwitterMySearch

    Buzz is a superior product, but like the “Fist or the North Star” once said… it’s “Already dead”
    Facebook and Twitter already have the critical mass of contacts you wish to follow “Celebs” “Friends” and “Foes”.
    These contacts do not intend to use Buzz at all, ever, period!!.
    I think Google it self is in danger. Imagine if Facebook made a simple search page using say Bing as the search engine, but branded it as Facebook search with a few social elements. (Maybe just updates) This would really hit the searches performed on Googles,!! Facebook has a huge loyal following!! Sorry to go off track but in summary, Buzz is dead, Google at risk of retaliation when other networks begin implementing their own dedicated search engines.
    Oh try my app at TwitterMySearch.com

  • http://www.googlewave-tutorials.com/ Google Wave tutorial

    Thanks for the interesting post. I also think one of the key reasons for Google's struggle to gain more market share in the social networking is because their tools are far more complex than Twitter and Facebook like you say..

    I actually find this quite ironical after all, one of the key reasons for Google winning the early Internet search wars was it's simplicity. Things are different now and there's definitely a new attitude for the majority of online folk wanting more functionality and being more connected so with that in mind, Buzz and Google Wave for that matter will more than likely become key tools as time goes on..

    Having said that, is Google Buzz gaining popularity?

    thanks,

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  • http://efreephoto.com calmer

    Google is the godfather of the internet sites, they built an unheard empire and to keep their position as a leader they are making huge efforts to do so, I’m living from their program adsense , God keep internet good place for the humans.

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