And so it begins….

Great news! Now that I’ve been laid off from my developer job at Garmin, I have plenty of time to help out Google on its way to dominating another IT sector with “less than free” business model.

It’ll be interesting to see what Google has for us now. :)

Can’t wait to see the finished product. I’m still not sure if it will be popular or not though. Hmm…

Chrome for Mac by the end of the year!!! That is great news!!!

Great to see Google pushing the envelope on the O/S front. If nothing else, this will really push MSFT and Apple to truly have lightweight, fully web-enabled operating systems.

Here’s what I wrote yesterday on what I think Google will be targeting with Chrome O/S: http://chris.reichow.net/2009/11/what-makes-successful-operating-system.html

No video

[...] MG Siegler is live-blogging over on TechCrunch. [...]

Watch it live!!

http://investor.shareholder.com/googpr/eventdetail.cfm?eventid=75092

No Installed apps, means no things like Photoshop, Games, etc. Maybe the OnLive model might be applicable to Chrome, but regarding Photoshop. Well, things like Aviary and Sumo are out there, but not a single person is going to suggest they come even near Adobe CS quality. This might be a step onwards that has to come eventually, but if the big manufacturers refuse to switch to a web model, it might get ugly in the future.

Chrome OS Is more of a thin client to Google Apps.

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engadget has better coverage…

Sounds like Google’s Move to Dominate the OS landscape by using backend Cloud Solutions and telling us all that we all will at some time in the future. Kind of Risky to put all my computing eggs in Googles basket…

photoshop.com

Really interesting. If no native apps, I wonder how they’re going to handle files in the cloud model they seem to be going for. Really hoping they give an option for online storage using google accounts.

This is looking to have a lot more potential than I initially thought. It would be perfect for netbooks, and great for the average user. It definitely wouldn’t provide for all the needs of a power user but internet speeds are getting faster all the time and we could eventually get to the place where most computers will be thin clients and all your data is in the cloud.

This is not meant for users who require to run actual applications.

Very exciting design goals and feature set description so far! There was an opportunity to start anew with OS design, they took it, and it might well succeed. Perfect timing!

Really nice! I like having my stuff on the cloud and being able to access it from everywhere. And wow, they have every piece of software available now as Google services!

Google Chrome OS seems to put all of them organized and connected!

I would love to see a feature in Windows where you can launch web apps like normal apps in the task bar.

Microsoft, if you don’t want to fail…*hint*hint*
Aero blurred the glass interface, now lets blur the line between local and web apps.

Kudos to the office team to take the first step.

I think the ability to deliver a browser only powered OS is really great and will allow th edeliver of $50 lapbooks soon enough.

If Microsoft continues to keep XP going for netbooks, and soon for phone devices, and cut per unit prices to $5 to $10 a unit then MS will continue to dominate against the free offerings. Perhaps even we could see $100 Windows XP powered lapbooks soon which would really be something.

a year ahead of release and “oh, it’s going to save the world” … it’s not real until there’s a beta where any fool can install/live boot from a .iso / .vhd and kick the tires

photoshop.com

Not gonna replace CS4 surely, but comes
damn close for menial graphics tasks.

I can’t believe people are still falling for the Chrome OS hype.

It’s simply Linux with all the useful functionality taken out so you are *forced* to use Google’s crappy online apps.

oh WHO CARES? what percentage of pc and mac owners run photoshop? 0.01%? for windows users…0.0001%?

this is targetted at people who think using their computer means email and facebook, an audience ten thousand times larger than photoshoppers

There is photoshop.com for lighter-weight PS stuff, but I do agree with you in general.

The way I see it, the “Web OS” (be it Chrome OS, or something from MSFT, Apple or some other organization entirely) will probably work as the main OS for a majority of people a majority of the time, but there will always be the need for local machines. I do a lot of 3D modeling/animating at my school, and there’s no way Maya would work across a network; it’s just got to be local. There will always be people who need as much power as they can milk from their machines, but a think a lot of the time, for just checking an e-mail or editing a Word document, a web OS would work just fine.

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Yeah! Actually it seems the tendency is to have thin clients with all the computing on the cloud. No doubts this will make Internet even more essential than it is these days!

Although this announcement is “saying” no installed applications, the fact that there are storage methods on the machine, even if it’s just an SD card, allows for “installed applications”. Think of portable apps running from a USB drive, only they are coded in HTML5/JavaScript/Flash instead of C++, etc. Google can simply not have the device be completely useless without an internet connection.

Chrome OS is probably going to be aimed at the netbook and light notebook market. I wouldn’t want to use Photoshop on an 8 inch screen, but I would like to be able to have a practically disposable computer that is nothing but a front end to my information in the cloud.

I’m excited for the future of this OS, because it would make it more necessary to have an internet connection wherever you go, so it could lead to more universal broadband coverage.

FYI
Live webcast – Google Chrome OS http://bit.ly/3ZuAhh

this is awesome. marc andressen once suggested that the OS would become nothing more than a set of device drivers. this is now becoming a reality. it will be interesting to see how msft and apple react…certainly its going to get harder to charge for OS upgrades, when all anyone cares about is the browser

Questions: will there be Adobe AIR/Flash? I hear no, but want confirmation.

When are we going to see hardware? I hear it won’t be until the launch. When is the launch? Sounds like they are saying late next year.

To wIlliam Blanchard
I do not think you understand the pricing of these machines. OEMs do have to charge extra if they sell windows on the machines as it is today. But Chrome OS is really just a tactic of the OEMS to have a bargining chip with Microsoft. It doesn’t necessary mean the prices for consumers will go down. the OEMs are looking to suck up those extra dollars between windows and free OS’s like Chrome OS. Do not expect 50 dollar netbooks soon – the cost of the hardware if far beyond this. Subsidizing is one option or waiting quite a while.

I can’t believe people are still falling for the iPhone hype.

It’s simply OSX with all the useful functionality taken out so you are *forced* to use Apple’s crappy app store.

Nah, you’ll be able to use Zoho or any other web-based apps too. Google is pushing us into HTML5 land.

Agreed, Dom. The technology is really nothing new, but I think that Chrome O/S will change how the general public thinks about the operating system, forcing Microsoft and Apple to change their approach going forward.

Chrome O/S = a fast, lightweight web browser that boots up really quickly…

I’m not impressed if it will remain that way. They built a browser directly into the linux kernel and optimized it for web apps.

As I experienced at first hand in college (they have crappy internet), internet isn’t always available and many of these applications are pure server-side. So every time your internet fails, your computer will be useless with Chrome OS?.

As always, Google wants to enter a market, with minimal effort and using their name as a promotion channel.

But this might be interesting for specific devices though. But I’m not seeing a desktop competitor, not even a netbook competitor.

troll

Yes, that’s what Google Gears is for, which Chrome OS will definitely support.

Will there be Java?

a few years ago this was called the “Network Computer”

Exactly… Just like windows is a place holder for office. They _used_ to have different approaches – not anymore. I barely distinguish between the two companies anymore.

Here you are fed with Win/Office, there are you fed with Chrome/G-Apps. Here you pay upfront, there you pay through ads, etc.

As Adobe is one of the development partners for ChromeOS, the answer is yes on Flash. Air is questionable (and is a dead-end anyway, IMHO).

Ok, so you’ll be able to use web apps from other companies too, but Google will push us toward using theirs so they can force their lovely ads on us.

There is a reason – a *good* reason – why webapps failed on the iPhone. They rely on network connectivity and severely limit functionality.

[Disclosure: I'm a web developer and have created several web-based applications. HTML5 is 'nice', but it's not the answer for every day computer usage.]

So every time your internet fails, your computer will be useless with Chrome OS?.

Yes it will be – hence you need internet always on, and available everywhere (like electricity) – an guess who will profit from that? Google does not make money offline.

is this the end of Ubuntu?

I simply cannot accept consequences of releasing all my data to clouds.
It looks just brilliant, just check this concept video:
http://bit.ly/Y59lq

Common user will be completely satisfied with this what else does he need. When for gaming he/she already uses Psx or Xbox?

Friggin interesting will be fragmentation of computer market. Some machines for developers and people with need of control. And vast majority of computers for common users, simple interfaces to Facebook/TextEditor/Twitter etc.

Damn, Google this is check and mate!

[slow clap]

true.
thanks jim

Who said anything about the iPhone, dumbass?

Google wins again.

Youtube is flash , no? it runs flash. Adobe AIR though? I doubt it

You may require an internet connection to assess the data but, people seem to be forgetting about gears – it’ll allow local storage of data until such time your connection to the internet resumes.

It’s intriguing… but, at this point, it’s vaporware until something is available and we can kick the tires. They did release the source as of today so, should be able to do that soon enough.

The public doesn’t want a online only device – specially if it looks and acts like a normal computer. What do i do with all my photos i don’t want online? oh… i have to have another computer for that? like a windows or mac? I guess I’ll buy that instead.. hmmm

Yeah since there are never connectivity issues or issues with the cloud like Gmail never going down.

To develop any application for chrome OS, you will need pc or mac. :)

Definitely seems like the market litl is in now, only it’ll be far more affordable and have better support. You won’t be using full graphics programs with it, but nor would you use audio editing tools, do development work or play modern warfare 2 on it. But google docs is there, pixlr is there and it’s only going to get easier to deliver content via the web over time.

With lightweight OLED screens tied to the burgeoning low power hardware market we’re seeing, it could make some incredibly thin, lightweight and easy to use computers. If litl’s approach is taken, only a small harddrive will be required too.

iTards can hype anything, so amazing. Chrome been out for over a year idiots, get over it.

This is the beginning. The model they are developing I think is top-notch, and of course more code needs added, but I think we’re on the course for a power move by Google. It’s entertaining to watch everyone hustle and nervously dismiss this sort of venture, but who else is trying to do this? Nobody. And thank God Google is on the ball.

Lots of people love to second-guess the ultimate Goal of Google, which is to index all the worlds information, I think you can’t do it unless you have a Cloud-based Computing platform for the Desktop/Net-top — or at least if you don’t, it severely increases the difficulty.

I can see there be a stable, usable release of this product by the end of 2010, if not earlier.

Hmm. Looks just like Microsoft’s Hailstorm all over again.

And we know where that ended up.

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There is a vast difference between a workstation and a network computer. We will always have both, but the race is to the bottom, not the top any longer. Now we need to be online, and yes, as the video states one gets angry when you cannot get on.

I like to think of this as the realization of Xerox Parc’s idea of Post-It like displays. Most people can suffice with a mobile or a tablet like thingy. Some cannot. As a graphic designer, I cannot. But, supporting somebody who uses a browser, Word and PDF for reviews is shear torture.

This also opens up the idea of networked objects. Under this scenario, I need a camera that talks to Picasa or Flickr. I need an MP3 that accesses an online library.

You can use Chrome for the Mac today. I do.

Certainly showing your bias. Huge post for this Google aspirational stuff when every techie I know today is downloading and playing with the Office 2010 Beta which I don’t recall seeing a post about.

this is a check of my 15 months old GoOS prediction [ http://ow.ly/iEi1 ] compared with the real Chrome OS:

* The BEST and DEFINITIVE Personal Computer and Servers Operating System!

YES

* It is (and ALWAYS will be!) 100% FREE for personal and commercial use, no ONE cent to pay!

YES

* TWO TIMES FASTER than Windows XP and Mac OSX and THREE TIMES FASTER than Vista!

YES

* Nearly PERFECT Windows XP and Mac OSX software EMULATION built-in!

NO

* It runs native GoOS software and nearly 99% of ALL Windows XP, Vista and Mac OSX software!

NO

* MINIMAL hardware requirement: 600 MHz processor, 256MB Ram, 1.5GB hard disk space!

YES

* Tablet PC ready, Media PC and Mobile versions available soon!

YES

* Automatic high speed PARALLEL processing with Dual and Quad Core processors!

BEST WITH MULTICORE

* NO longer and complex installation needed, just copy the GoOS on a formatted HDD to self-install it!

YES

* Works fine with FAT32, NTFS, Linux formatted hard disks!

NO

* Protected GoOS kernel, HDD file system and GoOS system files to STOP nearly all kinds of Virus and Spyware!

YES

* Hundreds FREE software with the GoOS download including a (Microsoft Office 100% compatible!) GoOffice Suite!

SOON

* Perfectly runs Google Chrome, GMail and all Google Docs, applications and services!

YES

* NO online and offline advertising, NO virus, NO spyware, NO software or user registration, everything is FREE!

YES

“the ultimate Goal of Google, which is to index all the worlds information”

Yes, and you can’t do that unless all the information is online. Or, even better, online and inside our data stores.

MG Siegler keeps removing my posts. Email me the reason, please.

This will probably be a second computer everyone will have, but not their primary computer with all their data and programs installd. There is no way so many applications will be rewrite for this new OS which resides on the servers of Google, For ex will Adobe release a photoshop for Google’s OS? I doubt

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And you’ve never lost power at your home?

Windows has never crashed?

The risks are more or less the same, but there are untapped rewards to be had here.

Exactly!

They already have photoshop.com that is good enough for my mom&dad.

post edit:

* Works fine with FAT32, NTFS, Linux formatted hard disks!

YES

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Wondering if that webcast would run in current chromeos…
(WMP, codecs and stuff)

Now I see why Google didn’t want to just expand Android, because Android allows native applications, not just web applications, and not just Chrome browser.

Totally! That’s why I don’t use cell phones, because once I wanted to make a call and the network was down.

Chrome is as much a “push” as a real product. We’ll see the ideas this product embodies copied elsewhere.

There is no heavy duty “Photoshop” online now. There is no “Maya” or “3DS MAX” online now. There are many apps you “need” that aren’t purely online now.

But there will be, and Chrome will provide the “push” that gets them there.

not true: https://bespin.mozilla.com/

nice…

I also love all the this is the end of Microsoft talk. This is a cloud based system. Relying on the cloud in an enterprise is proven to be idiotic unless you control the cloud.

And mobility? unless a 5 gig cap is gone on a cellular solution I don’t see people walking around with this thing.

Question: would it be possible to acces NAS like devices natively through Chrome OS?

I can’t believe people are still falling for this OSX hype.

It’s simply a specialized Turing Machine with a finite tape length and rich output display.

I totally agree with you.

@R “will Adobe release a photoshop for Google’s OS? I doubt”

They already did:
https://www.photoshop.com/

That’s sort of the point with this OS. Since it’s just a standards webbrowser, every web app is effectively a Chrome OS app.

I just lost all interest:

“You cannot download and install Chrome on any machine. You will have to buy a new one.

End of next year. Before the holiday season.”

How? ChomeOS isn’t even out you nitwit.

The funnything is that MS is dramatically more open then Google at this point. Is there a place for Google within an MS world? – of course, it’s mostly open.

Is there a place for Apple/MS within a Google world? – not even a link.

You login to Gmail, implicitly pre-forced with Google apps, without any option to integrate anything else. Same with Chrome, Chrome OS, and other Google online facility.

Google is the closest web eco-system today. Nothing but Evil.

Why would I need a whole different 2nd computer just to do the minor crap that Chrome can do…when I can do it on my current computer?

Bloggers and fanboys might do it, not normal people.

Ok, all the part concerning “WebOS” you didn’t predict. Only the “free and light” part.

> will Adobe release a photoshop for Google’s
> OS? I doubt

Ooh ooh, me first! http://www.photoshop.com/

No.

They said in the talk that ChromeOS is Ubuntu/Debian based. So by definition Ubuntu can’t be “dead”. The Ubuntu Netbook remix isn’t dead either.

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I know a lot of designer and hobbyists here use Photoshop, but as Stalin said :

How many Photoshop users ?

5 millions ? 1% of the Internet population ?
Big deal … hum .. wait, no !

A light weight fully web OS — what does that mean? That you can’t run very much stuff. Mac OS X is pretty light weight in its iPhone/Touch rollout, it’s just different.

This is a good thing. Even if different, it is heat on Apple. The iPhone is a great device for now but it too must evolve or it will not be so great looking in 2011.

I hope no AIR, I also hope flash will not be required by the time this is ready for production

Because your current computer is OR very immobile OR very slow to boot-up OR vialable, running every program you want starting up very fast but cost you your life’s savings. Chrome OS machines try to be fast, cheap and very mobile. This idea is very innovative, and with things like OnLive coming out, a lot of it’s “handicap” will vanish.

New World Order in the making…

they’ll have access to everyones computer….

Um, okay, so it’s a neat concept…but who on EARTH would want to operate/rely 100% on cloud-based, internet-driven files/apps?

It’s just stupid. So let’s use a simple example of something Chrome OS CAN’T do, but a inferior Windows machine can do:

Open Photoshop, work with a 500MB PSD file, import that into InDesign while both apps are open) and then, at the same time, be listening to iTunes/Windows Media Player and perhaps even downloading large files from torrents…all simultaneously.

Chrome OS is limited by the web sites/apps companies will develop and as a result, no one but the most novice/basic users will get any use out of it. And for anyone to think Office Live is comparable to Office 2007, they are morons.

I also don’t see hardware is going to be compatible with this. I mean, if you go to Walmart and buy a 3-in-1 printer/scanner/copier, can you just hook it up, pop in a driver cd and use it? Or will you ALWAYS have to be connected to the internet and ALWAYS have to use the internet (& certain sites) to update your computer’s hardware support settings (like drivers). Again, if this is the case, I can’t see this being such a wonderful idea.

“There is nothing wrong with your computer. Do not attempt to adjust the screen. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For eternity, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your computer. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to… The Google Limits”

Ok, 1-0. Pair this up with OnLive, and you can do really anything. Play games, use photoshop. What next?

They said that the demo machine was an off the shelf Eee PC. The whole talk was an invitation to open source developers to download and use the software today.

The statement “You cannot download and install ChromeOS on any machine” seems to be a false one. However, it seems that Google’s preference is that you go buy a new one.

Plus, I don’t know about all of you, but I don’t think I’d want 100% of my files saved “in the cloud” because who knows who else might be viewing them? It isn’t like Google is 100% open with it’s privacy policies and features. I don’t think I’d use Chrome OS for anything business or finance related…no way, no how.

I’m guessing we’re years and years away from full-bodied Maya online.

But Maya users aren’t the focus audience of Chrome OS. Nor probably are most of the people who have shown up for this comment thread.

Very few people need Maya editing. Or even full photoshop layers editing.

And I suppose you’re right, we will eventually reach that level of web-app anyway. But I bet Chrome will succeed long before that. Or if it fails, it won’t be because of lack of heavy-duty apps.

Hell, I can’t get people to install Thunderbird, because the web interface for Gmail is “good enough”.

It’s a pity Donald Knuth & Ronald Rivest didn’t write their books using HTML5/Javascript. Anyway, we hope next Linux kernel will surely use the tag :-!

It’s very important to see clearly despite the Cloud(s)

Wait a minute. You’re so dedicated to your current machine that you would refuse to buy another one in a whole year, yet you’d (apparently) consider wiping that same machine to install a brand-new OS?

(anticipating your “dual- triple- quad-boot” reply: if so, then you’re a relatively hardcore geek. And again, most of those hardcore geeks would love to drop $250 on a new toy with a new OS.)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS!!!

Actually, Youtube can be Flash or plain H.264 (reason why you can see it on your Flash-less iphone).

Photoshop is just ONE example.

How many people need Access? How many users need a fully functional version of Excel? How many people need to use printer/scanner software? How many people need to run iTunes? How many people need to run AutoCAD or Maya? Or the Full Acrobat?

I’m just saying, I understand what Google wants to do…but if their main selling point is “We want everything simple” and then everyone buys a Google OS computer only to discover you are strictly limited to web things…and then Google tries to pulla 180 and start offering native OS support for apps (like OS X and Windows does), then doesn’t that mean Chrome OS, as it stands today, is basically worthless?

It’s a nice concept idea, but it should’ve stayed that. The only people who’ll like this are Robert Scoble, Leo Laporte and Arrington, “industry pundits” who haven’t worked a real-world job in ages and like to live life totally in the clouds right now (and have been doing so for years…figurateively, of course).

Average Jane and Joe will NOT like this internet-only setup. It’ll just aggrivate the hell out of them.

We’re trying to organize the Chrome OS loving masses!
http://intochrome.com/forum/

I’m not impressed it looks like an 80′s OS capailities.
Really, all the online apps capabilities are very limited.
You can’t really do a “real” production document,pictures with Web apps…
So from what i see here….Google is going to crush.

What do tou think that MS & Apple will sit ? they have all the advantages – large user-base, working applications and the ability to access any web-app. therfore i don’t see any reason why i will switch my OSX/WIN7 to this limited OS.

google has no reason to not support every type of hardware.

the *correct* thing to do is to say “ok, you dont want to buy new hardware, go ahead and install this on whatever you want”

but it’s open source, so im not too worried.
the remixes will be endless, and they will rock much harder than the original.

Seriously? You run two Adobe authoring applications on a netbook?

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Lol, I agree with some others, there is no way I will be seeing a hardcore Maya modeling program on the web anytime soon.

No, but is this ONLY going to be limited to Netbooks? Because if so, with notebooks being in the $350-$450 price range and netbooks generally being in the $250-$400 range, what’s the point of getting a netbook? Especially one like this that relies 100% on the internet at all times.

I think Google believes users who will want this are way more tech savvy and have constant connectivity than what is actually real. Even if they only want the netbook market, they are demanding way too much of a sacrifice from users when good options like XP and Windows 7 already exist, in Netbook form.

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I liked what Google did with Chrome and I like what they are doing with Chrome OS. They appear passionate and motivated to deliver speed and good engineering. That counts for something.

Of course these are big drivers for their business and with Chrome OS broadband providers, network work equipment providers, the whole ecosystem. A huge push for cloud computing. However there are use cases beyond this and even they conceded that by positioning this as the second computer.

Microsoft had/has a far larger challenge. The effort and achievement simply cannot be compared. Folks love to crap on Microsoft but they are enabling computing globally, not a small subset of needs, they have to approach things significantly differently.

I wont do Maya, 3DS or even Photoshop on a netbook… ChromeOS is not supposed to take over all OSes on all hardwares. “Just” the millions of netbooks that people uses to check Facebook and watch the latest funny youtube video. ChromeOS solves some problems that currently netbooks have (often too heavy OS for tiny harware). And eventually it is the seed to make you believe that connectivity is vital for you and your computer. You are nothing if you are not connected. You do not exist, unless you are connected and giving away data.

ChromeOS is another OS, for a particular type of hardware. Android is for another hardware segment, and you have other OSes for desktops (OSX, Win, Linux). And don’t expect to just replace yet your server’s OS with ChromeOS…

Overall it’s a cute idea for an internet fanatic (and aren’t we all?). But has anyone stopped and asked how for example we’ll boot up something like Photoshop or Indesign, or a 3 gig game like Call of Duty.

I love web apps, but even apps like Google’s own Docs is a poor substitute for the real thing like Open Office or MSWord. It’s ok in a pinch but (right now and for the foreseable future) can’t replace Word. Or even a decent text editor for that matter. And that’s GOOGLE’s own product. If their OS is no better, I just don’t quite get how this will be sufficient for anything more than surfing the web and running a few “Small” web based apps. And Heck, I can do that already with my iPhone.

You’re going to run native Photoshop on a $350 laptop? Lotsa luck.

You’ll have a much better experience running a cloud-based subset of photo-editing on a $250 netbook.

There are many more users that don’t need a fully functional version of Excel/Access/whatever than do need it.

Those users need a working subset, and that can be satisfied by cloud-based approach with limited offline capability.

With Windows or OSX you are free to use the same online apps as with Chrome OS plus can use all the offline apps. What’s the advantage of an online-only OS as Chrom OS then?

Every cheap computer now runs Windows 7 easily. So does any netbook. By the time Chrome OS is on the market, the computers will be even cheaper/faster. That argument to be able to run it on cheap devices has no base.

I can’t imagine many people using this. Maybe the zomg techbloggers and the more gullible among their readers. Google is becoming more unsympathetic every day. What they said about working with MS regarding Silverlight – does that mean they won’t support it? Even MS is more open and less evil.

So many people are over looking the target market of this OS when commenting about its usefulness.

We’re talking about Netbooks. Since when do you see anyone doing 3d modeling, video editing and deep graphics manipulation on a Netbook? If you have any seen anyone doing that, for any other reason than pure morbid curiosity, I’d be surprised.

This is targeted at Netbooks and Netbooks, IMHO, are primarily targeted about people who want to be connected on the go, without lugging around a big notebook. Their primary use of a computer is Email, Facebook, Twitter, etc. This is going to server their purposes greatly.

The only minor drawback in my opinion is needing to be connected to the internet to “really” use it as it’s intended, but hopefully that develop RICH offline support using HTML5 and Google Gears. But if I’m being honest, when my internet is down at home, I still basically see my computer as useless because I’m a web developer and most of what I do requires internet – so this would be no different.

I’m excited about Chrome OS if for nothing else than what it will do to push browsers and HTML5 forwards.

I can’t believe people are still falling for this Internet hype.

It’s simple a series of long tubes with little pieces of content flowing back and forth.

Im the perfect target market for this. I do my work on a main computer and travel a reasonable amount with my netbook.

I use the netbook for email and web apps and some music. All of which Chrome OS can do…

I would see myself using it – as I use Chrome running under Linux anyway it’s a step further in the integration process. The netbook would become my portal to the net. It might even encourage me to move my word processing to the netbook.

Really what *else* do you use a netbook for?? I spen well over 40% of my time on one and it’s all about web surfing :)

Can we get mandatory wireless internet apart of the computer purchase

add a year of service into the price of the device and after that charge 10 a month or something.

You make good points. They will discover just how hard it will be to pry users away from Windows and Mac OS. Still.. you never know. Maybe 10 years from now they will have changed the landscape. I’m skeptical. I don’t think Microsoft, Apple and Adobe will sit back and do nothing.

Did you miss the part about it being Open Source? Dell, Acer, Gateway, HP, anyone making Netbooks can put links to whatever cloud based apps they want. They don’t HAVE to link to Gmail, Google Docs, etc.

I suspect they will voluntarily based on a cut of ad revenue. But the point remains, anyone can build a non-Google netbook using Chrome OS.

You can’t do that with Windows.

Exactly. Why buy a machine with limited functionality, web apps, when you can have a full featured machine PLUS all the web apps. It’s a nice concept but the reward just isn’t large enough. Laptops are getting smaller and more powerful and at some point will make the hardware they are describing irrelevant.

Those worried about Google and the cloud, don’t forget you can create your own ‘cloud’. I plan to buy a netbook to use as a secondary computer/school pc, Chrome OS or no Chrome OS. If anything, I think Google may be making a mistake by wanting their OS on a larger netbook than what most people are snatching up. I’ll use my netbook in class, on vacation, when I have to travel and forced to take the company provided laptop (which is greatly handicapped by our IT department) and want to save on weight and not take my full sized laptop. Any personal data that I don’t want on Google’s servers or the cloud will be placed on my own servers/main computer at home via a VPN. Anything that requires number crunching above and beyond what my netbook can do will be done via that same VPN setup. As long as I have internet access via the hotel LAN, a hotspot or my phone’s data plan, I’m good to go.

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I’m going to stick with c++ thanks.

Dude, I run Visual Studio 2008 on a netbook. Runs amazingly well.

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gears will be useless for all serverside applications.

Really disappointed you’ll have to buy a new PC to get it. I could see hardware manufacturers hurting this by forcing Google to add all kinds of clutter to the OS (e.g. pre-linked Dell web apps).

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Did you complain when you worked for the buggy whip company as well?

You act like your Chrome OS machine must be your ONLY computer. They already said they don’t expect that to be the case.

And those apps you list are VERY VERY rare compared to the amount of people that DON’T use them. However, everyone uses a browser.

You guys don’t get it.. You can write photoshop as a web app using HTML5. There won’t be any need to run native applications when u can access the GPU using javascript

…who wouldn’t?

Did you miss the part where they called Microsoft Office Live a killer app for Chrome OS?

Evil is forcing customers to pay an extra $200 to flip a switch on their OS that enables built-in things like Remote desktop or joining a domain.

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Yep, it will be one stop shop for information/identity thieves. Going to be very booming gig, though limited only to scoundrels.

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Sometimes sarcasm is not immediately apparent.

I would absolutely love to have an ultra-portable super-lightweight netbook with Chrome OS – I’d still keep my custom built PC and Apple laptop because it won’t replace either but it’d be the perfect full-browser “on the go.”

Let’s do some real analysis, and discuss the business cases for ChromeOS, and how it will impact fat OSes eg Windows, Mac, Ubuntu, and what this means for consumer choice.

—- Consumer/Residential Market:

1. Netbooks were chosen by Google because they are at such a low price point that a bundled Windows OS ‘tax’ is not attractive to netbook OEMs, netbooks are not used for processor intensive apps that people still use, and they are a growing market due to cheap price points.

2. Google will do the opposite of an installation tax – they will share advertising revenue from some web apps used and/or Chrome searches from the netbooks, just as OEMs installing Android get continual post-install revenue from mobile phone based adverts and Firefox gets revenue from its bundled Google search.

3. Once OEMs realise the ongoing profit potential from installing ChromeOS on netbooks, they will pre-install this on any other machine they can sell to customers.

—- Business market:

4. ‘Google apps for your domain’ just got its best buddy – ChromeOS. Everything a company employee does will not be integrated realtime into the cloud, and managed through an extension of Google apps for a companies domain.

5. Companies who have already started migrating to Google apps will test near full IT infrastructure ie hardware migration to Google, saving them in provisioning, security, etc. Examples: If a laptop is stolen – so what?! Their google apps have the data. If a machine is somehow compromised, it can quickly be reinstalled – without much IT dept management. You get the idea.

6. Google can now provide the full ecosystem to clients, from software to hardware and integrated infrastructure, fuel its growth via ad revenue sharing, and keep users captive once they have migrated a significant amount of their core activities to the cloud.

Fat client OSes will still have their place, particularly for those who can afford them, the hardware they run on, the applications they support, and who want the privacy control factor of not storing all their user input on Google or other web servers.

—- Pros & Cons

Pros:

a) Simplicity of user experience ie cloud integration;
b) Security of app sandboxing from OS and data encryption;
c) Speed of boot. But done before by Splashtop etc.
d) Perhaps allows a cheaper class of netbook to get in the hands of those who couldn’t afford one with a fat OS.

Cons:

e) Privacy of user input is reduced. Google captures more user data/info for ‘indexing the world’. Not all recipients of such netbooks will have a choice ie the kid who gets this for their birthday and grows up not knowing they could otherwise have stored their more private info locally on a different OS.

f) Security of user input that was once stored privately on a local machine is now at risk of the cloud being compromised or losing the data.

g) Ownership of OS. The user won’t just be able to backup a hard-drive or swap it into another netbook. There will be no hard-drive. It’s okay for Google to say we don’t need floppy disks but this appears an effort to hide the fact that they are removing ownership by the individual of their data and OS after purchase by removing the normal means of storage – the hard drive. The user can own Ubuntu or purchased Mac or Windows OSes, but even though ChromeOS is being open sourced, it’s development model is likely to be as faux-open as Android – mostly developed in a closed environment by Google. And even when there is a time that ChromeOS is well tested enough via Google’s open testing model, and enough OEM hardware parts are available ie the right Wifi cards, for a user to make such a machine themselves, as soon as they install ChromeOS, they remove any real ownership of the OS and data on that device – poof its in the cloud and not stored on any local device for their backup/security/etc.

—- Conclusion

Many of the commentators above are correct – this is a step backwards to go forwards.

It will give segment of the market the ability to save costs ie those who can’t afford laptops, companies who already are migrating to Google’s cloud instead of having a heavy IT dept, and individuals who use and support devices that are a pain to maintain/upgrade/replace.

But in a time when processors capable of running fat Oses are being developed so cheaply, fat OSes themselves are integrating their own apps/services and overall environment with the cloud anyway, and normal fat OS eg Mac/Windows/Ubuntu users can enjoy local apps and web apps in a range of browsers by just waiting a whole 45 seconds on average boot (give me that back, lol ;-) – there three benefits discussed above for the average user are outweighed by the cons.

ChromeOS is OS feudalism.

I’d rather be the lord of my own manor/data any day than make some cloud lord or device OEM farmer fat. In a corporate environment, this lack of privacy and control over data and OS is acceptable. But I feel sorry for the kids who will grow up with ChromeOS and their every user input stored in someone elses cloud without choice. Some will argue it’s better than having no netbook, but netbooks that perhaps aren’t as sexy yet, but could be, are now cheaply available:
http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2009/11/worlds-first-80-dollar-laptop-which-can.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AllAboutLinux+%28All+about+Linux%29

But we have consumer choice, and the irony is that ChromeOS will only make Windows, Mac, and Ubuntu look better, as these apps offer more hybrid fat/thin OS features, and the Mac for example differentiates itself by providing more user data privacy.

Where ChromeOS does rattle the heard to lift its game will be in boot speed, which isn’t a big deal, app security, and web app integration. But all fat OS manufacturers are working on this already.

—- Questions:

The big questions to see answered/played out are:

i) How will Google’s revenue sharing model with OEMs be countered by fat OS manufacturers? This question needs to be answered by MS in regards to countering Androids quick adoption by phone OEMs for the same reason.

ii) Can the other OS makers compete with ChromeOS/Android in the embeded market? Android is popping up everywhere phones to ebook readers to home automation devices and ChomeOS is likely to replace Android in some of these. Which other OS makers are going to counter this with a lighter/hybrid OS? Window’s CE??

iii) Will users choose fat/future-fat/thin-hybrid OSes that give them more control over their hardware/apps/data when they realise that Google’s ‘less than free’ consumer cost model actually makes the user less than free to choose devices, privacy, etc?

iv) When will netbooks with ChromeOS be given away for free like free cell phones, tied to cheap data plans, subsidised by user data and ad clicks paid for by Google? And will this be enough to convince enough people to ditch privacy for freebies in the cloud, which is the defining modus operandi of the connected generation?

v) Is this another not so subtle play by Google to move towards owning the wires/wireless of the internet environment, impose its own replacement for http(s), and own/control an Internet OS by having millions of devices built to spec that can only use this and not accommodate local hard-drives for a local OS like Windows/Mac/Ubuntu? Hmm…

If so Google’s own success will really test whether as a big brother/cloud OS it can still do no evil.

As long as consumer choice remains, then it can’t.

And that’s the real question – does Chrome OS help Google reduce consumer choice to the point that it is as evil as people accuse Microsoft of being?

Is an open monopoly the same as a closed one?

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What about bandwidth? so your telling me everytime i boot up the computer i will have to download all of the that stuff? how long will that take for the people using the slowest broadband options?

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It’s open-source, Adobe can add Air to an Adobe version of Chrome OS if they want..

Actually, the ARM powered Chrome OS netbook at 50 dollars is possible. See my video http://techvideoblog.com/reviews/80-android-laptop-menq-easypc-e790/

Chrome OS is out today at http://chromium.org

They don’t expect to grab 100% of the market before a year from now, but you can download the dev version and install it today. And manufacturers can download it today and start optimizing hardware for it.

It can work offline, using HTML5 features, the web apps can actually run offline. And you could just store all your photos on a USB hard drive or a local NAS hard drive and access them without going on the Internet, if that is what you want.

Here we’re missing the point: think about not-yet-digital people. Think about developing countries. They are trying to force people to get digital with a cheap model (netbook+googleOS), with the ultimate goal of letting people first getting digital, and then buying a real full-featured PC once they discover that simply being on the internet is useless if you have no or little tools to produce digital content (music, videos, office files, etc). It’s just a way to extend the market in all senses.

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There are no perfect moves in this industry. You can’t get boot time of 5 seconds and access to your apparently vital install of Photoshop CS3. Which the vast majority of people have installed of course. What Google is doing is MASSIVE, the biggest move in OS in years. Is that to say it’s going to have staggering effects, not entirely. The point is we are at A) Desktop focus and Google is trying to get to B) Web Focus. In my opinion the goal is spot on; getting their may not be a straight line along the Chome development path but it’s a big step in the right direction.

There are always criticism, but they are often protectionist inward looking desperate pleas from people who either hate change or don’t like the idea that their current system of computing is flawed. That is only to say that it isn’t perfect, and until it is moves like this will do nothing but good. If it falls flat in Google’s face then it will only hurt them; the people who try and examine the demise can only benefit, and away we go again.

Also, why the dismissing attitude that Google is only doing this to make money by getting everyone online. Anyone aware of Adam Smith? How fairer and more competition friendly can you be by making the thing open source? Anything that makes Google rich can only be good for consumers.

Personally I’d love this thing to be dual booted with Windows 7 because unlike the vast, vast majority of people using computers (however, like the vast vast majority of people post on this thread) I have programs I need with no web equivalent. But I like the idea of being able to turn on my computer in seconds, do some programming, photoshop editing, website coding, save it back to the net and not even notice I had nothing installed locally. No one is saying that ChromeOS will make this at all possible but it’s a step in the right direction.

Even Schmidt said they are just going to release it and let it find its own market, so even Google don’t know where it will end up. Dismiss ChromeOS as a product is understandable, but the entire idea of pure cloud computing?. And given that no one here has even seen the former in action, the latter is what is being judged as a fail.

So, mr. google, why is this so much different than the old usage model of the main frame computer with dumb monitors? It seems to me that we’re going back to a centralized compute model which was discreditted owe 35 years ago. Then the montra was you can take your word processor, spread sheet and all your data with you. You were less dependent on the centralized main frame which slowed you down as more and more users got on it and cost grew exponentially with more users.

So now since Google doesn’t know what to do with all that cash flow they’re getting from we sheeple they want to reinvent the central processing system–AGAIN.

What google wants us to believe that a main frame can process millions of simultaneous uses of MS word and not perceive a slow down in performance. Give me a break. If you believe that, I’ve got some land I’ll like to sell you in the dessert.

Look it doesn’t take a PHD to determine that centralized computing has advantages of more effecient use of memory space but its disadvantages in slow response and performance is also a given.

Now what’s the backup for central control? Every large internet usage company has experience down time through web attacks. You must ask yourself if being without access to your data on the web for hours at a time is worth the cost savings in dumbing down your computer.

When Chrome OS comes around, people would realize that a computer isn’t only about Internet (stuffing all Goog products, uggg……)
And about 7 sec start up, at the moment, I’m happy to yawn while my Win 7 boots.

And how is OS X not already “fully web enabled” today?

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Man, you are right, seriously, chrome OS has crap written all over it.

> If one has to use C OS he has to buy a new machine so not cool

> No other browsers, apps, will run in c os not cool at all

One has to completely transforms 10 years on computer behaviour and change all computing habits to be with C os. WTF…..its like google trying to push cloud computing to the general massess.

They should know that, not all people care about codes and clouds…people have life’s you know, they have gf’s kids and a family to take care of.

This seems like a perfect platform for someone who has plenty of time to r&d and waste not for a business user..who has to learn everything new from scratch….ITS SO NOT COOL….I had high expectations about C OS….im highly disappointed

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Its a myth that more artists use a mac in the industry than a pc. Big fan of google …google is king of search engines and i likes my gmail. But not liking the smell of this cloud data storage dependancy concept. Just not for me. im happy with windows 7, which i was skeptical about before i got it but now surprised how much better it is than vista.
I have a mac and a pc laptop which runs photoshop 64 bit, whilst a full hd mkv file plays, and downloading my goodies onto MY hardive.
Oh and when im not emailing clients or on youtube or downloading i like to have my internet off:) lol

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Checking out the inner documentation i found out the Chrome OS is based on ubuntu, check it out here with pics
lol its now GooBuntu
http://thetechnologycafe.com/google-chrome-os-is-ubuntu-based-screenshot-with-sourcecode/

Well, I am glad that Google will be behing HTML 5. Gears is open source but it is just an implementation of HTML 5. I hope things get clearer soon.

Photoshop 5 in HTML?

You’re kidding, right? Does that mean you’d have to upload your 100MB TIFF, PSD & EPS files into the cloud first before you can edit them???

What possible motivation would a company like Adobe have to do this anyways? Same goes for every other big developer that has industry standard software.

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All the criticism reminds me of the old adage that if everybody agrees with you you’re probably not doing anything revolutionary… not that I don’t disagree with a lot of what’s being said about the new OS. It has its shortcomings for sure.

I could, however, see Chromium OS laptops replacing netbooks for some traveling businesspeople. For example, I use Google Apps for my company’s email, SugarSync to keep all my files in sync no matter where I am, & often use Google Docs for collaboration. So on the road if I had a Chromium-powered-netbook with a Verizon internet card I’d be good to go.

One thing I don’t see myself ever living without though is Office, & as others have mentioned, Office Live is not there yet… but Google has shown itself to be a long-term player & thinker, so who would be foolish enough **especially in tech**, to sat that something *can’t* happen. Who would be willing to bet that in 5 years an online version of Office won’t be just as powerful, if not more, as a desktop version.

I’d argue, in fact, that it will be possible to have a more powerful version of Office-in-the-Cloud in 5 years than its desktop counterpart. At an office I used to work at, accountants ran QuickBooks on the server at the office because it had 8 Gigs of Ram & a much more powerful processor than their desktop. Latency was an issue, so it flickered a bit when it loaded up, but you could start 2 instances of it practically instantly. I think there’s an analogy argument to be made with running an app on the cloud in 5 years. Maybe you’ll have access to 100 Gigs of Ram vs your desktop’s 10, or whatever.

I guess time will tell.

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You want facts? “what if your browser was your operating system. new OS no kernel, no all…. BIOS was redesigned?”

It’s like they made a mobile OS and applied in a computer

See the Chrome’s detailed review: http://bit.ly/google-chrome-os-best-or-worst-judge-it

Sounds promising, but only for my netbook.. there’s no way in hell I will use this for my desktop (just in case BIG G decided to used this on PC in the future)

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ChromeOS is supporting the concept that “the network is the computer” in the cloud is definitely a force to be reckon with especially supporting the next-gen HTML 5.0 standards that is backed by big players like Mozilla, Apple, Oracle, Cisco, IBM, etc.

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“This will be a secondary device, it may be a primary device in terms of time spent on it, but we expect people to have other computers too.”
“Netbooks are now $300 or $400 you can buy a bunch”
If you want to do serious computing with photoshop, movie editing software, gaming, etc. you probably won’t be using a netbook in the first place. but 90% of the time people use their computer for the browser, and that’s where a chromeOS netbook comes in.

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Statler and Waldorf, would you stop using
the internet and come to take you medicine!?

You can actually do this if you’re using the Chrome browser. There’s the option ‘Create application shortcut’. Once you have created the shortcuts for your websites you can put these shortcuts in the taskbar.

I dont like the idea of EVERYTHING being stored online. The web is not safe. I’m sure Twitter can attest to this. Why should I trust Chrome OS when Google cant even protect your gmail account from hackers? Naw, if its ALL on the web, I aint buying it.

Google is becoming too big, too powerful and too greedy.

Ubuntu seems to be mis-spelt as “Unbuntu” in the article !

Will the embeded browser and no support for other browsers cause it some competition issues. Seems to be even more restrictive then the Microsoft IE pre-load saga.
Not sure how they plan to get away with that one.
Interesting idea though but strikes me as a little lightweight. Say if I shoot a load of pictures and then have to upload a couple of GB to the cloud to start playing with them. This is going to be a real pain.

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See exclusive pictures of the Chrome OS and how it works/Looks
http://thetechnologycafe.com/google-chrome-os-exclusive-review-in-pictures/

Chrome OS in my opinion doesn’t have what it takes to be used as mainstream OS, maybe couple of major revision down the line they might but that’s too far ahead.
And I for one don’t want my App to be loaded off a cloud, that’s too much reliability on the internet, what if my connection is down (Thanks to my ISP provider, that happens when I need it the most).
And then it’s too much monopoly from Google, and then people blame Microsoft for monopolizing everything, wickedly it goes against Google’s own policy ‘Don’t be evil’… you are being evil if your commenting about microsoft and laughing (not that I am big fan of microsoft, but get real, the reality is in the market… most people use Microsoft products, even if they can’t afford it …they will crack it and use it ..why don’t they just use Linux). Unfortunately or Fortunately, Microsoft had done something right!
Cloud is good when your talking for server-level computing, serving websites, heavy calculations, but it’s difficult to see Could computing for personal usage.
When your looking at developing an OS, you can’t simply look at a few apps and say it will work, it should be able to work for anything.

…And finally the big one, Chrome OS will provide Apps from the developers of the apps, which means if it’s paid you have to buy it .. you can’t crack it cause it not on your machine… and if you see the number of apps being cracked and used by million sorry billion of users..then you just know why Chorme OS won’t work…. :)

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hmmmmmm… really not that impressive .,. its missing so many things .. Google should have worked on those things .. before releasing it .. Even its browser is missing many features .. what all can we expect frmm OS ???

It would take time for Google to grab the market .. beating Microsoft in OS is another story ..

Best,
Daina

Funny read… why do so many people limit their imagination to TODAY’s use cases?

Be creative, some of the things being described here as limitations can surely be overcome rather easily. Do you really think it will stop here? The next thing is Chrome running on your little fileserver at home (NAS), in your TV, etc. This opens up so many fantastic opportunities.

Brilliant, i wish i would work in a company that is so much behind a vision like this. We tried to go into this direction, but were stopped by the politicians. I really envy the google team working on this!

Great job!

google’s chrome OS sucks for countries having slower broad band connections like india.
Is it wrong?
It is waste of time………

Yeah, because we all know that people in the third world countries have cheap, stable, uninteruptible internet access.

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well, in the 80′s what were the point of selling 8mhz computers to families while in the universities or big enterprises huge mainframes were available?

The same applies today. Google people are trying to get new territories to the market. Chrome OS is NOT a competitor to Windows/MacOs. You will not switch, that’s for sure.

In this blog we are all tech enthusiasts. It’s like presenting a new Ipod to professional musicians. ChromeOs is like an Ipod, an easy and cheap way to get access to the digital (musical in the case of Ipod) world.

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You have valid concerns, but the specific examples you listed are all things that actually CAN be done in Chrome OS. Let’s run through them real quick:

“Open Photoshop, work with a 500MB PSD file, import that into InDesign while both apps are open) and then, at the same time, be listening to iTunes/Windows Media Player and perhaps even downloading large files from torrents…all simultaneously.”

in Chrome OS:
1) Open panel-based media player from App Menu, start playing music. (This will likely be developed by Google and launched in conjunction with Chrome OS)

2) Open web-based torrent client from App Menu. (Many rich desktop clients already have web interfaces for remote control. Now that web apps will have access to your hard drive, this is a small progression.)

3) Open web-based Photoshop from App Menu, work on file.

4) Open web-based InDesign from App Menu, import file. (Your files will likely also be stored in the cloud in the near future, so you’ll just be selecting a “project” from the your list on adobe’s site and you’ll export when you want to download it as opposed to importing it every time)

And that’s how it works in Chrome OS. Not much different than your current setup.

“Chrome OS is limited by the web sites/apps companies will develop and as a result, no one but the most novice/basic users will get any use out of it.”

Currently, your computer is limited by the apps people develop for your specific hardware. This had been a major criticism of mac prior to their addition of CISC support. Java gained widespread support due to its high level of portability, but you still needed a mature jvm for your hardware.

The next step is webapps. You’ll gain full portability as long as your machine has a browser. HTML5 is laying the foundation for full-fledged apps with offline support and Chrome has revolutionized js execution. We will certainly see the maturity of webapps increase rapidly in the next few years.

“I also don’t see hardware is going to be compatible with this. I mean, if you go to Walmart and buy a 3-in-1 printer/scanner/copier, can you just hook it up, pop in a driver cd and use it? Or will you ALWAYS have to be connected to the internet and ALWAYS have to use the internet (& certain sites) to update your computer’s hardware support settings (like drivers).”

They explicitly stated that printers will be addressed in the future, so I can’t speak to that. As for loading drivers on, yes, it will likely work similar to how computers currently work. They’re designing the OS with many different priorities, but at the end of the day, they’re not radically shifting how hardware and software interact with each other; it’s still just a computer using a peripheral.

“Plus, I don’t know about all of you, but I don’t think I’d want 100% of my files saved “in the cloud” because who knows who else might be viewing them?”

The computer has a hard drive to which you can save files. If you do not wish to store your files in the cloud, don’t.

“This seems like a perfect platform for someone who has plenty of time to r&d and waste not for a business user..who has to learn everything new from scratch…”

I disagree. The system is intended to boot quickly, update seamlessly, be extremely resistant to malware, and simply requires knowledge of how to use a browser.

Now I’m not asserting that Chrome OS will gain traction and survive the test of time, but none of the above complaints are accurate.

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(from the video)
“It’s fast, and more secure”
oh totally more secure, unless you count SENDING EVERY-FUCKING-THING YOU DO TO GOOGLE.
but you totally trust google and cloud computing…right? google would never turn evil EVER and idk, sell your data to the highest bidder.
yeah, that’ll neeever happen.

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It is nice to see more OS options available to users with the introduction of Chrome OS. I will be giving it a try.

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So the selling point is fast boot times? I’ll pass. I’ll endure the whole 15 seconds of OS boot time in order to watch my Blu-Ray movies on my Sony Vaio.

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This will work for most people but a lot of apps such as video editing, music / audio production, games, etc. need to run natively to be of any use. Sure you can run them as webapps but they’ll be useless or at the very best completely underpowered unreliable.

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There is already that. Download the Facebook app (or others) from the Adobe AIR site.

Vista and below – create a shortcut to the app and put it in the Quick Launch Toolbar.

Windows 7 – Pin the app to the taskbar

If there is no app, create a shortcut to the web address and your default browser will open.

There is already that. Download the Facebook app (or others) from the Adobe AIR site.

Vista and below – create a shortcut to the app and put it in the Quick Launch Toolbar.

Windows 7 – Pin the app to the taskbar.

If there is no app, create a shortcut to the web address and your default browser will open.

What’s the purpose?

Longer battery life, among a lot of other reasons. Think of the usefulness of this, from a student’s perspective. You take your netbook to class, and using the 3g connection, take notes and do simple homework. Then, you go home, turn on your home computer (which is more powerful, and heavier, and possibly a desktop) and do the more intensive crap, while having access to all of the notes you took in class that day on a computer that doesn’t weigh 8-10 pounds, and has a battery life of like 8 hours.

Cloud based applications are perfect for this kind of scenario, because I dunno about you, but as a student I sure as hell don’t want to have to transfer everything back and forth 40 times between my computer and my netbook, if I could just access it online.

I think the true power of this will come when they start putting out terminal pcs, though. a desktop with minimal specs, possibly mac-like with all of the parts in the monitor so it’s towerless, that can use an os like this. Netbooks are a proving ground and a way to refine the system. Guaranteed, if you had to buy a brand new *computer* to use an untested os, you’d be saying different things about how it’s a bad idea.

My big issue with this is that nothing they’re talking about sounds that far off from what ubuntu already does. Canonical even has a system to let you save files to the internet and work with them, like chrome is saying it’ll do, called ubuntu one. And I can put Ubuntu on a thumb drive, so space is not an issue, negating the need to go cloud based in the first place. Limiting it to a netbook, while good for early stages so they don’t have a windows vista style abortion of a launch, kills the very thing that would make chrome stand apart. If I can’t install it on any computer, I can’t access the cloud apps, unless google makes them multi-platform, negating the purpose of using chrome in the first place.

Theoretically, a cloud based app could take less memory to use than one that’s in resident memory, so unless they find a way to cut the price of the netbooks because they don’t need to be as powerful, I see them having a hard time getting people to adopt this.

and I think you might be a bit behind on the netbook thing if you’re not sure about them being internet connective. verizon’s 3g network covers like 98% of america. Most netbooks are sold with a 3g wireless plan. that’s why they call them *net*books, and not, I dunno, micronotebooks.

Another big step in the battle against MS. Looking forward to seeing how manufacturers market the Google OS.

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does google chrome OS work if i am out of range from any internet signal or other ways said will i twork if i am offline?

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THANKS GOOGLE I ALWAYS WANTED MY LAPTOP TO BE LESS POWERFUL AND USEFUL THAN MY CELL PHONE. (I didn’t intend to hit caps lock but it’s late and I’m not typing that again.)

I don’t get why everyone is talking about how people will be *forced* to use google’s online apps. It’s a browser… meaning you can use any web based software. Can’t really get any more egalitarian than that.

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One reason to move the big native aps to the cloud would be to control piracy AND to move to a subscription based model (I can’t believe you can still buy boxes from Adobe and Microsoft – Even Hollywood knows the disc is dead).

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Thanks for the information. I like Google product. But my opinion is no one can beat Windows. agree?

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Ok I don’t mind waiting 45 seconds to get to a complete computer where I can install staff and use it !!! A computer that works only as a browser sounds handy and practical but I still need my pc and if the browser computer is not a lot cheaper than ipad then ipad will really sound like the best thing In the world. It is allready

ubuntu is better than googleos or any os, at any rate.

One thing I don’t see myself ever living without though is Office, & as others have mentioned, Office Live is not there yet… but Google has shown itself to be a long-term player & thinker, so who would be foolish enough **especially in tech**, to sat that something *can’t* happen. Who would be willing to bet that in 5 years an online version of Office won’t be just as powerful, if not more, as a desktop version.