Our Reaction To Your Reactions To the Twitter Confidential Documents Post
Michael Arrington
Jul 15, 2009

Wow, that’s quite a reaction to our post earlier this evening saying that we will publish some of the confidential Twitter documents we’ve been forwarded. Nearly 200 comments in a little over an hour, mostly saying we shouldn’t publish. Hundreds of Tweets, and it has become a trending topic. There’s even a poll asking people if we should post the documents or not.

Let’s put aside the highly sensitive documents that we aren’t going to publish, but which will likely end up on the Internet anyway. We’re not going to post that information whether we have the legal right to or not. No discussion is needed.

But we are going to publish some of the other information that is relevant to Twitter’s business, particularly product notes and financial projections. Many users say this is “stolen” information and therefore shouldn’t be published. We disagree.

We publish confidential information almost every day on TechCrunch. This is stuff that is also “stolen,” usually leaked by an employee or someone else close to the company, and the company is very much opposed to its publication. In the past we’ve received comments that this is unethical. And it certainly was unethical, or at least illegal or tortious, for the person who gave us the information and violated confidentiality and/or nondisclosure agreements. But on our end, it’s simply news.

If you disagree with that, ok. But then you also have to disagree with the entire history of the news industry. “News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising,” is something Lord Northcliffe, a newspaper magnate, supposedly said. I agree wholeheartedly.

That doesn’t mean we are entitled to do anything we like in order to get to that information. But if it lands in our inbox, we consider it fair game. And if we have reason to believe it will be widely published regardless of what we do, the decision isn’t a hard one. We throw out the information that is sensitive or could hurt an individual, and publish what we think is newsworthy.

In the end, this is no different than, as an example, this 2006 post where we posted confidential Yahoo documents showing their valuation of Facebook in a proposed acquisition.

Nor is it any different than the WSJ publishing this internal Yahoo memo, which was also “stolen” in 2006.

And I believe it is significantly less of an ethical issue than Gawker’s posting of Sarah Palin’s private emails.

It’s not our fault that Google has a ridiculously easy way to get access to accounts via their password recovery question. It’s not our fault that Twitter stored all of these documents and sensitive information in the cloud and had easy-to-guess passwords and recovery questions. We’ve been sitting in the office for eight hours now debating what the right thing to do is in this situation. We’ve spoken with our lawyers. We’ve spoken with Twitter. And we’ve heard what our readers have to say. All of that factors in to our decision on what to post or not to post.

We are always in the delicate position of balancing what’s right for the community with publishing insider news that helped build this site into what it is today. We don’t sit around and republish press releases, we break big stories.

I feel bad for Twitter and I wish this had never happened. But it did happen and the documents are out there and they are going to be published somewhere on the Internet. Hopefully the embarrassing and sensitive stuff about individual employees will never see the light of day. And hopefully this situation will encourage Google and Google users to consider more robust data security policies in the future.

Update:  Here is Twitter’s response.

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  • http://www.leadpress.com Trace

    Can someone clarify: So publishing stolen docs is legal, but buying stolen docs and publishing is not?

    Not sure if I have a strong opinion on this either way, except to say that it “feels” wrong to see these published.

  • http://justbought.it/ Pallian

    So when exactly are you going to publish these so called confidential docs?

  • Andres

    TC teaching ethics in the process of publishing stolen (not leaked) documents.

  • http://www.getdoorbell.com Peter Urban

    As long as the company is informed so they can take action and employee’s privacy is protected it’s the right way to go. Unpleasant but not wrong. I see it this way it’s better the record is set straight by a trusted blog that actually talked to the company beforehand then by some anonymous schmuck, possible with all kinds of falsified information.

    Part of the ugly news business.

  • Geoff

    Thou dost protest too much

  • http://justbought.it/ Pallian

    LOL, look at poor Ev’s last tweet: http://twitter.com/ev/statuses/2647935038

  • http://KnowtheNetwork.com Tsudohnimh

    That was my thought as well. I’m really disappointed in TechCrunch.

    Their argument maybe valid about how news happens but that doesn’t make it right.

  • James

    What sort of time-frame will the articles be published? Are you planning on sitting on them for a while – maybe to give twitter a chance to prepare?

  • Just a soul

    Please give the poor guy a break http://twitter.com/ev . When someone falls, you don’t step on his head and laugh.

  • http://blog.gadodia.net Vaibhav

    C’mon people – get off it. TC is still showing a LOT of restraint in that they are only selectively publishing stuff.

    Just because Twitter is popular, you guys are going on and on. If these were, for example, Microsoft’s internal documents, I bet most people wouldn’t have that much of a problem.

    C’mon Arrington, don’t keep us waiting all day and publish them already.

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  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    no, just fascinated by the discussion. really.

  • Derek

    Your argument is flawed. I unfollowed.

  • http://www.pestaola.gr Titanas

    It’s leaked not matter what. I don’t think TC asked anyone to hack Twitter or anything. Someone just send the documents to them.

    It’s far more interesting that the documents will be available online according to the hacker and far more interesting that the documents were saved in the cloud etc.

  • http://www.otid.se m00ns

    If u are intrested i can send a copy of a fully overtaken os. That had been a zombie if i havent stop it. The transformation of any os to win2000 server or wista 2003 server opens a lot of back doors that these thievs use to steal documents from people. or in my case remove vital components until it crashes. ofc after they have taken ehat they wanted.

    regards
    m00ns

  • http://cybersweetness.com Gebadia Smith

    You all need to relax… any publicity is good publicity… you all need to take your sticks out of your ass.. it was unethical to go to screw over Iraq’s for Oil but you all didn’t care about that and your mad about TC publishing some documents..

    This is the internet.. most websites are unethical in some way.. get over it.. It is news.. this is why companies need ways to tag documents saying it cannot leave our servers.

    If I am as big as twitter you better believe sensitive docs would never get out the front door… just me.. I believe in the boogyman and santa clause..

  • http://www.adexcel.com Darren

    Ethically is wrong but journalism has always been a brave platform. That’s why they swaer freedom of speech and press and etc all around the world. In the spirit of reporting the truth. :|

    - Darren at AdExcel dot Com

  • http://www.www.fr netgui

    Humm..; I don’t feel confortable with this anyway.

    There is a difference bitwin reporting news you find out and publishing news you got from a true pirate.

    Why ? Because this is encouraging piracy, not the little one but the huge, painfull one, the type of piracy that cost millions of dollars to companies. This is not journalism but illegal and imoral matter ! Cpy-paste stolen information is NOT my view of what true journalism is.

  • LIAD

    Michael Arrington is my Shepherd; I shall not want.
    He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
    He leadeth me beside the still waters.
    He restoreth my soul:
    He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name’ sake.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
    I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
    Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.
    Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;
    Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.

    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life,
    and I will dwell in the House of Michael Arrington forever.

  • Jean Vence

    Another poll being taken! Make yourself heard
    http://qulse.com/#q/17

  • http://MarkCarras.com Mark Carras

    This is no different than any major news network. Every single legit newspaper, magazine, or nightly news program has done the exact same thing. It’s called news! other wise you are just doing a copy and paste of press releases.

  • http://cybersweetness.com Gebadia Smith

    You are my hero.. such a James Dean Rebel without a cause…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris_Wheat/577855266 Chris Wheat

    leaked and stolen are the same, a document was taken from the company and given to some one with out the companies permission…

    I think TC is doing the right thing, they are looking over the docs and deciding to publish only the ones that don’t contian personal info… Bravooo…

  • Deepo

    This is a real dick move guys. How do you expect people in the industry to respect you for what you’re doing? Sure it’ll be interesting, but at the end of the day it’s private information. Using the fact it’ll come out anyway to justify publication is like saying “if I don’t steal this car, someone else will”.

    And yeah Google need to tighten up password security, but again that’s like justifying stealing a car because the alarm system was no good.

    TechCrunch = gutter press

  • Ómar

    Really?

    Do you think news organizations should inform companies if they plan to publish interesting or damaging information on them? I really hope they don’t because that makes it a bit to simple to keep “unfavorable” information out of the publics reach.

    I wouldn’t except a news organization to do this for companies or governments. I don’t think we would be seeing any of this outrage if the company data being released was from Rio Tinto or another less popular company.

    But now: sit back and wait for TC to release the documents!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris_Wheat/577855266 Chris Wheat

    exactly….

  • Silverrain

    Hey guys, a free market needs to overcome information asymmetry.That’s what news are for. PLZ don’t mix infotainment with news. Something can only be new if masses don’t know and usually the information owner don’t wanna let others know what he knows.

    On a political level it would mean that all investigative journalism shall be banned because they almost always start of with leaked information.

    If you really want to stop information being published it seems anachronistic to me. Do we want to life in the age of infotainment or information?

  • http:///felipecoimbra.com Felipe Coimbra

    You make a good case about it being “news.” I still don’t agree with your decision, but it’s good to know that, at least, you had seconds thoughts about it.

    Examples of other unethical actions by other people don’t make similar actions right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Simon_Dennett/720440422 Simon Dennett

    I think what you guys are scared of more than anything else is pissing off a lot of people and in effect turning them away from tech crunch, directly affecting your numbers and advertising income long term. Otherwise you would just publish everything now, sensitive or not.

    Grow some stones and publish it all, radical transparency will turn out better in the long run for all concerned. But you’d better make sure your servers can handle the traffic you get!

  • http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/author/steven-walling.php Steven

    I don’t speak for ReadWriteWeb in any capacity, but as a blogger for a competing publication, I’d like to say that any writer would jump at the chance to publish this kind of thing.

    I personally think Arrington and TechCrunch have done a more than adequate job of stopping to consider the ethics of the situation. My guess would be that the personal information they’ve said they will refrain from my publishing would be within the bounds of legality.

  • Travis

    So in all your detractor’s opinions, news agencies/sites should just sit around on their hands and wait for companies to give them something to print?

    TC printing a product leak that came from an employee is the same thing as publishing these documents. They are both stolen. That employee surely signed a NDA so by leaking information to TC they stole it. Same thing.

    Basically, what you all are saying is news agencies/sites should sit around and wait for a press release and then what? Write an opinion piece about it? That isn’t news. Not news I want to read anyways. I want to read the news that is giving me information companies don’t want me to know. Company leaks, stolen office memos, and hackers fuel the news. Face it and get over it.

    Now, Mike, publish the docs please. I am getting anxious here.

  • lance lee

    Thanks Larry and Page …

  • Geoff

    What would Leo Laporte do?

  • http://www.kreeo.com Sumeet

    TC do your Karma…with self moderation

  • http://dotseo.org/ Paw hellegaard

    Oh good, this is rly bad for twitter.. Damn!

  • http://www.crimecorp.com CrimeCorp.com

    yeah, come on show’em

  • Mat

    Techcrunch your right about news. Your wrong about the public goodwill and sense of ownership towards Twitter. Suggest third thoughts…

  • http://geekism.us acydlord

    Leaked and stolen are not the same thing. A leak is when someone has legal access to the information and shares it with a third party who shouldn’t have it. Stolen is when someone who does not have legal access to the information acquires the information via subversion or brute tactics. In the case of the twitter data it is stolen. TechCrunch knows the data is stolen which is why many people see this as a move of a company with low ethic standards. It also speaks about the journalistic integrity of TechCrunch and Michael Arrington, or lack there of.

  • josh

    “A hidden danger in your home that may kill you. Stay tuned to find out how you can protect your family.”

    Just post the stuff already. Enough tease.

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  • MJ

    come on. publish them. noow

  • Kevin

    If an employee leaks info, we feel as if – hey that’s the company’s fault if they can’t even control their own employees / have produced such a disgruntled worker. If a hacker steals the info against the will of everyone in the company who have worked so hard to build the product, we feel that that is a bit more disingenuous. Even if the employees should have picked better passwords.

    It’s the hurting the big company vs. hurting all the little people perspective. Or so the disconnect in my case.

  • HardyHar

    lamers who ever is whack enough to get their jack exposed should get it exposed. Lamer’s should have their lamenicity shown.. boo to twitter for its whack, newb lamer security flaw.

    also twitter if you’re reading this your damn search doesn’t work for shit my gf didn’t show up in the results for 1.5 months after we added her account so i’m glad you got owned.. punks can’t even fulltext(usernames,userids,useremails) s000 LAME!!! go hire some real engineers and maybe they wouldn’t overlook newbie ass sec flaws.

  • josh

    lamers.

  • http://smm-strategist.com Vijay Rayapati

    Poor Twitter, what a bad day for them.

  • http://www.smallsoftware.co.uk Richard

    Don’t know about the US, but in the UK there is a “public interest” defence, meaning it is legally acceptable to publishing material even if it was obtained through dubious means. That’s why The Telegraph are not being prosecuted over the MP expenses publication.

    However, what a lot of people forget is that “public interest” does NOT mean “the public are interested”. It means “in the best interests of the public”.

    It would seem very much to me that these Twitter docs fall into the first category. Yes, you might find them interesting, but there’s no public interest justification for publishing them. Unless, of course, the docs say that Twitter are planning to infect the water supply, invade Canada, etc.

  • Rankhar

    This is just like any other scoop. Normally you wouldn’t even hear about how the scoop came about, now that people know they get all pissed off? God, you guys are like meat eaters getting turned off by seeing how a cow gets executed for processing. Get over it.

  • amet

    With this moral, every news agent would hire a hacker to gain private information and say they didn’t hack it, someelse did.

  • HardyHar

    oh and by the way TWIT’er don’t think your lamenicity hasn’t been talked about we hear that you put your site on that cloud provider with 1 db connected to a few virtual web servers and expected it to magically scale then called up the cloud provider when it didn’t… yes doofus’s cloud doesn’t mean a db magically scales via 1 db on a virtual server…. SO TWTITER WE KNOW YOU’re LAME newbie engineers need to get a clue this is just more proof of it.

    lamenicity is at like a 10 your about to pop the flippin temp gauge on the ish

  • http://simoncast.blogspot.com Simon Cast

    So is TC going to publish their own equivalent docs for every doc that you publish on Twitter? I am interested in the financial projects and product notes of TC.

    Arguments for publishing Twitter docs stand for publishing TC equivalents. You talk about transparency and public interest those same arguments apply to TC. Transparency that is good for Twitter is good for TechCrunch.

    Or does TechCrunch talk the talk but not walk the walk?

  • http://angrykeyboarder.com Scott Beamer

    Personally, Arrington I think you suck. It’s no wonder you’ve gotten threats in the past.

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  • http://scale.cc Vincent Chan

    If TC can find out who “Hacker Croll” is, then that is REALLY newsworthy :)

  • http://inchoo.net Toni Anicic

    Oh cmon, you’re all bashing TC for this but the truth is when they publish these documents, you will be the first ones to come and have a look at it!

    Good job Michael, publish it!

  • josh

    lamenicity.

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  • http://www.twitter.com/omfg_followme John Scott Cothill

    TC, you’ve gone way down in my books now. A lot of the leaked info you get is just old school marketing. It is leaked, because these companies want it ‘leaking’, because that makes it ‘great news’.

    However, this was blatantly from being hacked and I’m sure Twitter do NOT want this publishing.

    Fine line between tech news and journalism glory has just been broken, well and truly broken.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael_Evans/25700318 Michael Evans

    All you people who are upset with this are the kind of people responsible for the fact that we don’t have real journalism in this country anymore. TC it totally in the right and its only a shame that they don’t publish it all. did you people also have a problem with Bob Woodward and Nixon?

  • http://www.accmanpro.com Dennis Howlett

    “It’s not our fault that Google has a ridiculously easy way to get access to accounts via their password recovery question.” – and you think with that sort of ‘security’ every man and his dog is going to go to Google for biz stuff? Phew!

  • EH

    Posting about your own post? Really?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike_Orriss/852385354 Mike Orriss

    Ethics 101?

    If you *know* info was stolen how can it be ethical to publish any of it?

    What gives you the right to decide what parts should be published?

  • http://profiles.im/ Dom

    “It’s not our fault that Google has a ridiculously easy way to get access to accounts via their password recovery question”

    This is the real story here. It’s Google you should be exposing – and TC has the power to make a difference here.

  • James

    It’s really bad news for Twitter but I think people need to take a look at how the news works. Sensitive stuff is constantly leaked and reported on..

    In the UK we’ve seen the leaking of the government politicians expenses and indeed the person responsible was not prosecuted by the police as the information was considered public interest. The shit-storm it created was gigantic and now we have resignations and criminal investigations.

    This is the way it works and unfortunately you can’t pick and choose who you go for. If Arrington had decided not to publish any of this but subsequently published a leaked memo from Yahoo! saying it was crap you’d say he was favouring Twitter.

  • HardyHar

    i’ll publish the docs watch
    Lame twitter engineer 1 to Evan: “Hey we have 2 web servers and 1 db we have hard drives on the db server that are going 7200 rpm! that should be able to handle all the writes we will ever need”

    Evan to lamer engineer 1: “wow 7200 rpm that’s faster than I can tac on my prius that’s so leet”

    lame twitter engineer 2 to evan: ” hey one of the interns says we wont be able to scale with our setup and we should do something called data sharding…? i think’s he’s a fool cause i mean 7200 rpm on 1 drive! way faster than I can run!”

    Evan to staff:”look guys we need a search feature”

    staff to evan:” hey I got an idea how about we make it so people have to type in EXACTLY the right first name OR last name but not both and not update the index for 6 weeks”

    evan to staff:”sounds good to me i mean we have 1 hard drive that goes 7200 rpm way faster than my bay2 breakers time!”

  • Nicolas

    Leaked information already published here:
    http://www.korben.info/hack-de-twitter-la-suite.html

    Obviously the hacker is french.

  • http://www.amitbhawani.com/blog/ Amit Bhawani

    I support your point, if you post anything then its a PR site and if you post stuff like breaking news then you are ahead! Though you should/may contact twitter once and make sure it does not damage them and if the informartion can be shared with your readers!

  • http://www.thefurobiker.com Furobiker

    m disappointed with techcrunch.. You can not call this as the right thing to do.

  • http://www.elagaan.com financemaster

    u r right….. it shud nt b

  • http://www.thefurobiker.com Furobiker

    What you are saying ran is true but sad!

  • http://www.elagaan.com financemaster

    As long as the company is informed so they can take action and employee’s privacy is protected it’s the right way to go. Unpleasant but not wrong.

  • HardyHar

    lamer engineer 3 to evan: “dude the intern that was talking all that guff about scaling is now giving me crap about security”

    evan to engineer 3: “ok well give him a flashlight and tell him to wait at the front door for any hooligans and Michael Arrington”

    lamer engineer 3 to evan: “problem solved!”

  • http://justinsanchez.com Justin Sanchez

    I think what the uproar is about is because so many people love twitter. They in some cases are passionate about it and would hate to see twitter staff go through this nightmare. And I know that I’d hate to see the TC staff contribute to the nightmare.

    I understand this is just like someone leaking you some information but this time I think I and others will be disappointed. It seems there is good amount of people discussing TC’s decision to publish and that should tell you something.

    Is publishing the documents worth the possibility that TC will have disappointed some of its readers and possibly losing readers?

    I’d really like to see TechCrunch take the high road this time and leave this document publishing alone, but I don’t think that is going to happen.

  • http://cybersweetness.com Gebadia Smith

    No it encourages employers telling employees to send everything but the kitchen sink to TC… I am so going to get my mom who handles my accounting to email Mike my info…

  • http://www.elagaan.com financemaster

    rightly said dear

  • aDev

    Well i say.. rite on.. this is wht we like to see on techcrunch.. the exclusive.. common post it already.. :)

    Yeah mee to feel bad for twitter.. :(

  • Jasper Jackson

    Quoting Lord Northcliffe as a model of good journalism would be slightly more convincing if he hadn’t been a jingoistic propagandist who set up one of the most hateful newspapers in the Western World, the Daily Mail. He also deliberately manipulated British politics in order to depose one Prime Minister and enthrone another.

    It is also quite likely that if he hadn’t died in 1922, he would have given similar instructions to the Daily Mail as those given by his brother, Lord Rothermere, who ordered the paper to support Mussolini and Hitler.

    Not the best example to use to defend responsible behaviour by the press.

  • ajadoniz

    I approve, Michael. Go ahead. When I was younger my mom used to tell me to pick up my toys or risk having them thrown out. Unlike you, however, she wasn’t so selective in what she threw out. You are too kind.

  • http://beckymcmichael.com Becky McMichael

    …and isn;t that kinda like saying “I nicked your purse lady because the zip on your handbag wasn’t strong enough….not my fault gov”

  • Leon B

    Note for next time: it’s easier to seek forgiveness than permission. If you’d published the interesting bits without the lengthy introduction we’d instead be discussing the detail now instead of pontificating over the ethics of publishing.

  • http://jaybits.com/ Jibz

    lets just ignore this altogether, dont get TC to defend its right and keep this story low key, make it die down and dont take any pleasure in taking sides. freedom of speech and journalism only has limits when needed. so drop it ppl and forget the story, i may sound a pessimist but i believe its better to leave it at that.

  • http://cybersweetness.com Gebadia Smith

    lol… well you told him.. bet mike torn up over that comment… seriously if you are going to trash him.. be orginal..

    One idiot is like you are unfollowed.. and I want to ask the guy if he works as a fluffer in gay porn but after your comment I know you do..lol

    Seriously.. it gets twitter more publicity. Is it annoying for twitter sure.. but what if it gets them a million more users…what if it keeps friendfeed out of the news..

    The truth is the only part that might be annoying is they couldn’t plan the leak around a new friendfeed feature…

    Most stories are leaked… it is just the way it is..

  • gamars

    Certainly these are the sort of story to draw attention and create divergence in opinions. I am very glad that TC takes the extra steps in thinking and pondering (only natural and normal).

    I must say that I agree with the overall feeling: stolen vs leaked…

    At the end of the day it is a matter of win-win and burning situation: TC (as most news agency) must rely heavily on insiders. Their trust in you is a crucial part of obtaining illicit/hot/crunchy stories.

    Publish or not publish; that should be weighted by how TC feels it will make their informers, collaborators, suppliers and partners (current and future) feel.

    Journalism is not a big shout-box, but rather a conscious, tedious and meticulous work to bring to the light a trend, a story or simply a news…

    If you do publish, please make sure you show us your work and your efforts to understand, analyze and prepare the data-set so that we all get A story out of it, otherwise it will be useless…

    Wish you the best TC…

  • http://profiles.im/ Dom

    In your own comment, you’ve pointed out the difference between this and the expenses scandal – the information in the latter was deemed to be in the public interest.

    Twitter financial projections and office plans definitely don’t fall into that category.

    IMO, publishing this kind of commercially sensitive information could leave TC open to allegations that it wasn’t just given to them, but stolen to order.

  • http://www.elagaan.com financemaster

    yeah u r right

  • http://cybersweetness.com Gebadia Smith

    hot british PR lady… everything is spin.. you are in PR.. you should know this.. if they can blame twitter they don’t make their IT people look like incompetent idiots..

  • http://cybersweetness.com Gebadia Smith

    blame google oops

  • Jon Martin

    Surely whether any writer would jump at the chance to publish is irrelevant to the question of whether it’s the right thing to do. Most married men would jump at the chance to sleep with Angelina Jolie but it doesn’t mean their wives should think it’s okay.

    The ethics are clear. Someone stole information and TechCrunch plans on using that information to make money. It’s rewarding law breaking and that creates moral hazard. Look it up, it’s why the economy is in the mess it’s in.

  • kafka

    It’s an important discussion generally, but I don’t think it matters much. I give it 2-3 days and the documents will be online, whether TC will post them or not.

  • http://www.twitter.com/omfg_followme John Scott Cothill

    Gebadia, are we in a school playground now? Nope, it’s the TC comment section! No… wait, same thing.

    Look, I agree with you Gebadia (after the gay porn bit at least)…

    I did NOT say TC should NOT publish, did I???? They are, after all, journalist. Not all journalists go for this kind of unethical ‘news for views’ though. Tabloids vs Broadsheets. I just felt, this is a step too far for getting their name out there… oh… I mean in the name of tech news. Hmm.

  • Jon Martin

    Yeah exactly. Because publishing private Twitter documents is the same as revealing that the President of the United States of America colluded in political espionage and sabotage. Isn’t it?

  • James

    It’s wrong. No brainer.

    It’s stupid that they don’t admit that they’re wrong. They try to slide their way out by saying how WSJ used stolen info back from 2006. In a sense, techcrunch is saying that it’s okay to use stolen info if the other big companies do it.

    Hey techcrunch, let’s pretend someone found private information about you. You wouldn’t like being at the mercy of someone else’s hands, would you? Just put yourself in that position.

  • Santosh

    Twitter’s is private entity. It’s not as if some government is keeping its citizens in dark.

  • http://rosetta.null-zero.com Siegfried

    you should publish it

  • Mike

    Screw-screw you!

  • http://thewayoftheweb.net/2009/07/techcrunch-and-the-hacked-confidential-twitter-documents/ TheWayoftheWeb » Techcrunch and the hacked confidential Twitter documents

    [...] and the hacked confidential Twitter documents Dan Thornton | July 15, 2009 There’s a big reaction to Techcrunch at the moment, after they publicly stated they had received confidential Twitter documents sent to [...]

  • http://www.businessquests.com alex Papanastassiou | BusinessQuests

    Agree with you. What remains to be seen is not only “who keeps us from our keepers” as Aldous Huxley wrote but also “who’s going to keep us from those who keep us from our keepers”… A major problem in a society so dependent on the permanent flow of news and marcom manipulations of information. Still, vibrant journalism is essential to democracy and I agree with TC’s case even though I would probably not like to be in Evan Williams’ shoes or a member of the Twitter team today.

  • PotomacWill

    Give a lede–a who, a what, a how, a when, a where, a why–so I could have a clue as to what this is all about. I read four graphs of “Ethics 101″ only to feel as if I had walked in on someone ranting in a darkened room. By that, I mean no insult to any of the parties whoever they might be. My point is the low regard for readers the writing evidences.

  • http://cybersweetness.com Gebadia Smith

    That comment was for the guy above..lol.. (indent) I mess around a lot in comment boards.. :)

  • Lisa

    The argument that you might as well publish because someone else will even if you don’t isn’t much of a defense. I’m a writer who wouldn’t jump to publish this and there are plenty of us out there. Unless Twitter have been assisting politicians with exploiting loopholes in claiming expenses, are planning to invade Iran, knows where Osama is hiding out or found out who murdered Jonbenet Ramsey – then I don’t see the public interest outside of tabloidish curiosity. At this point you just need to press on with what you are claiming you will do instead of talking about it. However I am wondering if TC will then do a story on the hacker whose stolen documents were conveniently *fowarded* to you? It’s in the public’s interest to know and certainly would be more of a points-scorer with your competitors.

  • http://thedailyparr.com/gawker/posts-about-gawker-as-of-july-15-2009-2/ Posts about Gawker as of July 15, 2009 » The Daily Parr

    [...] about Gawker as of July 15, 2009 Our Reaction To Your Reactions To the Twitter Confidential Documents Post – techcrunch.com 07/15/2009 Wow, that’s quite a reaction to our post earlier this evening saying [...]

  • http://www.alexmanchester.com Alex Manchester

    That’s quite a big story in the UK right now (you knew, right?) Rupert Murdoch’s papers and others, have used private investigators [hackers] to get private information, including phone taps.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=aBWEcKPSR2JU

  • Jean Vence

    Interesting the difference in ethics between Europe and the US. This global poll on a map
    http://qulse.com/#q/17 shows a clear divide between the two continents.

  • Juan Snyman

    Okay… that is just creepy…

  • fatmonkey

    Nicely said Richrd, but if that was true, almost everything that was ever published here on TC had to be just discarded and never published.
    This is a tech news site (as it’s name might imply), so most stories here are not about life and death (or water contamination), they are, well, about tech companies.
    I think what Arrington is trying to say is that they are trying to pick out the important information out of the loads of gossip they have in their hands.
    This info IS important for the tech industry. It might be (i don’t know what’s in there) VERY important to potential buyers, stock holders etc. If you also comsider Twitter’s users, you see that it is actualy in the public’s best interest to know at least some of it.
    By the way (and excuse me for dragging politics to this debate), I’m an Isrealy and today i am furious at the BBC for publishing (in their top headline) a story full of dubious accusations about the Isrealy army, without bothering to check their facts. So tell me, how is that in the best interest of BRITISH public to “know” these things? How does the behaviour of Israely soldiers affecting British citizens? Journalists just publish whatever the hell they think will sell their product. Why should TC be different?

  • Judo

    The issue is that these docs were actually ‘stolen’ as opposed to leaked.

    Leaked docs are docs the holder has possession of or as come across in the course of business.

    Hacking an account and accessing private docs is totally different. Would you publish docs which were taken in the course of a burglary ????

  • cheese

    the only questionable thing about these posts are theses posts. why not simply publish what you are going to publish and stop the grandstanding?

  • http://www.pallab.net Pallab

    Well this is no different from publishing the latest apple scoop leaked by an insider.
    Go ahead and do it.

    I am fine as long as you dont publish personal stuff.

  • http://pr.sprawnymarketing.net/techcrunch-opublikuje-dzisiaj-wykradzione-podczas-wlamania-dokumenty-twittera-2.html Techcrunch opublikuje dzisiaj wykradzione podczas włamania dokumenty Twittera | Press Room

    [...] dyskusję. Wiele osób uważa, że tego typu dokumenty nie powinny być publikowane – Arrington ripostuje – że z takich dokumentów żyją serwisy newsowe (i trudno się z tym nie zgodzić bo [...]

  • http://www.loopthing.com Donagh Mc Sweeney

    I would have to agree with TC on this one. News is news. Half the stuff you see on the news is as a result of someone stealing or leaking information to the public or some reporter.
    Sometimes information is leaked on purpose by companies while other times someone is looking to make a quick bit of money! Whatever the case, TC are right when they say it’s fair game! Long live the media!

  • Daniel Thomaser

    You guys have been wanking to a leaked Paris Hilton video for years now. So stop complaining about tc publishing leaked infomartion…didn’t hurt her, won’t hurt Twitter either…

  • http://www.vinfotech.com Akshay Jain

    I dont believe it is still ethical. Maybe you could have tied up with Twitter, gotten an inside scoop and publish it, then it is fair and shows your ability of being close to Guys @ Twitter etc where as in this case it is clearly a case of stolen documents.

    Someone else might have stolen the document but you getting a scoop here makes all of us suspicious and naturally so. Show some courage, dont publish these docs at all. You can easily forego a few pageviews and show class.

    Also this is also not an excuse that if we dont publish someone else will. You never know if someone else will publish but for sure if you guys publish it, this will be out for all.

    Mike, please don’t do it !!

  • Matt

    Just because this is a blog, that is the only reason as to why this point is been raised. If this was CNN or CBS, there would be no discussion – the content would be published.

  • http://www.devries.ro Mihnea de Vries

    just another marketing stunt from twitter and techcrunch.. we are not stupid as you think!

  • http://www.agent2broker.com Dolbex

    Can’t agree more with your other readers on how they feel about this one. If I break into a bank, steal some cash, and give you the money that doesn’t make it legal. Maybe this isn’t illegal from the viewpoint of the law but it certainly feels wrong and at the very least it diminishes the fun part about reading this blog.

  • MrViklund

    “But we are going to publish some of the other information that is relevant to Twitter’s business, particularly product notes and financial projections. Many users say this is “stolen” information and therefore shouldn’t be published. We disagree.”

    Michael Arrington. Are you dumb or just stupid? I hope YOU personally and TC get’s in serious trouble for this. Reading is wrong but publishing is even more wrong. You don’t have the right to do any of that. I hope they Kick TC of Twitter too. This is outrageous.

  • MrViklund

    Nope.

  • Basar

    TechCrunch… turning into a bigger pile of crap by the day.

  • http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/07/15/stolen-information/ Would Midas Oracle publish internal documents that were stolen from a prediction market company? | Midas Oracle .ORG

    [...] I am a bit disturbed by Michael Arrington’s stance. [...]

  • http://www.robeam.com Adam Robertson

    Just slap a red top to the site and have done with it. Quoting Lord Northcliffe shows exactly what school of Journalism Tech crunch considers itself to be a member.

    Tabloid journalism isn’t something to be proud of and using Northcliffe as inspiration is just plain ugly as well as ignorant.

    The Daily Mail
    The Mirror
    And many other fascist regional titles

  • http://www.businessquests.com alex Papanastassiou | BusinessQuests

    I wonder whether the discussion would have been so intense on the principle and the issue of “leaked vs stolen” if the confidential documents were from Microsoft…

    Question 2 – how would TC handle news / information potentially damaging to itself as a business? Do you publish because you’re “good journalists” or do you keep to yourselves because you have managerial obligations vis-à-vis your business? If you answer the first option, then let the community access all your internal documents (after all those who preach transparency and public information should start with their house) and if you answer the second option (managerial role), then how can you possibly do to Twitter what you would not do to TC?

    Just thoughts…

  • MrViklund

    Agreed.

  • mark

    PERSPECTIVE. Twitter is a powerful brand. younger startup might be at risk from such disclosure, but not twitter.

    Michael, there is an interesting long term effect which you only touched: “the cloud sharing” model does have severe flaws. If people are going to use the cloud apps daily, they will choose easy passwords.

    And who knows, maybe this hacker is some google or “cloud” IT employee who managed to find it on their server?

  • http://www.mathewcarpenter.com Mathew Carpenter

    I want to know who forwarded you the documents? Like what sort of email address was it? Couldn’t you somehow track it down?

  • Baker Kawesa

    In the hands of the media, any information should be publishable.

    What does ethics have to do with informing the public?

    Except maybe when the privacy and security of individuals (but not organizations) if affected significantly.

    TC, go ahead and publish all, unless of course, it is prosecution that scares the shivery screams out of you and not really ethics at all.

  • Mike Stead

    So not only do you make a hacker infamous by publishing his name and accomplishment, you then publish his work. If that’s not a recipe to encourage more of the same I don’t know what is.

    Now his name may have already been out there, but did it need to be relayed here? Does it add much if anything to the story or just fuel this type of crime?

    As for publishing the content, if I were to choose I’d say let someone else break it, lose the scoop, but gain a bit of respect in the process. Financially that may not make the most sense however.

  • http://www.thinkwriteretire.com/blog.htm Dr.Mani

    You had me understanding (if not accepting) your point of view until

    “…they are going to be published somewhere on the Internet.”

    This is SO similar to the spurious logic so many people use to justify corrupt practices in my country at many levels.

    “Everyone else is doing it, so why shouldn’t I?”

    “He’s anyway going to have to pay for it, so why shouldn’t I collect?”

    “If I don’t join the crowd, I’ll be the one they laugh at”

    And with such platitudes, remnants of conscience are swept under the carpet where they aren’t uncomfortably visible and demand attention.

    You should’ve stopped at Lord Northcliffe’s quote – and the sentiment that “If you disagree with that, ok”

    Some things cannot be justified.

    Some others shouldn’t be.

    All success
    Dr.Mani

    .

  • igniguy

    Are you kidding me? You are saying you read documents that were stolen (So you have already committed crime 1) and you plan to release them in public? (mega crime 2)

    Good luck with the authorities. I won’t be reading your articles for fear of getting in trouble myself

    After this, don’t ever try to defent ‘process journalism’ again

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elizabeth_Velez/805690454 Elizabeth Velez

    This is journalism guys. I’m assuming you know about the Supreme Court cases against the New York Times and how the government tried to suppress the documents that were stolen by a member of the government and given to the NYT. They took them to court to get them not to publish the “war secrets” and someone else ran the story.

    A similar thing occurred when a journalist tried to run a story with step by step instructions on how to build a nuclear missile (or something of that nature) using resources from a public library and ONLY those resources. The story wasn’t intended to TEACH people how to do it (although it did include very detailed instructions and photographs), but rather to show them how easy it was for some wackjob to get this information and do it themselves.

    Someone breaching confidentiality within an organization isn’t the fault of those who print it, but the fault of the “leak.” Journalism has an obligation to inform the public, especially when it’s something controversial. It is unethical to retain information once it has been given for the sake of appeasing those who claim it is unethical to print it. It is unethical not to print it. And someone else WILL.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elizabeth_Velez/805690454 Elizabeth Velez

    Quick note – the bomb article ended up being printed by another newspaper while the one taken to court for it was still in court.

  • Icehawk

    If an hacker steals info, we feel as if – hey that’s the company’s fault if they can’t even control their own computers.

  • igniguy

    These people you are referring to are proper journalists, that means bound by a conduct code and some extended legal rights. Plus, they participated in the leakage themselves.
    Most of all twitter is (most likely) not building a nuclear bomb, so why are these of interest to the public or controversial at all?

    We are about to witness a breach of privacy and business confidentiality by the “tech paparazzi” that TC has turned to. This may cost twitter lots of money and techcrunch will be the one called to pay for it. I see no reason to publish these docs and call the idea immoral. It also sets a very bad precedent for blogs.

    - i can’t even believe i ‘m defending twitter myself

  • Jim

    FWIW, I think the real problem isn’t about what is legal, or what TC considers newsworthy. The real issue is you didn’t work very hard to get this story. You wrote about a hacker, which gave him a big head and he decided to use you as a pulpit to showoff his talents.

    I hope you have a nicely secured system of your own because you just befriended someone who isn’t interested in your ethics or your news, only the joy he gets knowing that he’s smarter than the founders of Twitter.

    Are you sure he’s not smarter than you? And how many copycats do you think you will invite knowing that by hacking a major site, blogs like your own will gladly glorify their actions to a willing mass of gossip hungry readers.

    I’d say at thos point that if you really think confidential financial records are fair game for the Internet reader, perhaps valleywag or your other contemporary publications will be even more interested in the things you have already outright revealed you don’t wish to publish.

    Fact is, the thing you are marketing is hacking, stealing, and being perhaps a little to loose with sensitive information. Are u sure someone in your organization and/or a wily hacker isn’t planning to sell the information you won’t publish to someone who will???

    It should be interesting to see how it all plays out.

  • Jim

    Okay I had to reply even though I said my peace already.

    Bottom line: if this information is so relevant and important AND positive about the company, then why wouldn’t Twitter simply share it.

    Probably because when confidential information is misinterpreted, misused or otherwise made public, it can and almost is damaging to a business.

    If you are going to prove that the founders did something criminal, that’s news… But if not you might be looking at a lawsuit for knowingly and willfully publishing information that could be damaging.

    If it’s not damaging then give Twitter a chance to break the news themselves, and let them give you the exclusive. If they don’t talk they MUST have a reason.

  • http://racetalkblog.com/2009/07/15/techcrunch-publishes-confidential-twitter-documents/ racetalkblog.com » TechCrunch Publishes Confidential Twitter Documents

    [...] far there has been a wide range of reaction from Twitter users and TechCrunch readers, but TechCrunch has already published plans for the [...]

  • http://www.davidalison.com David Alison

    The “well, it’s going to show up on the Interwebs anyway” argument is a pathetic attempt to justify what is clearly morally wrong. It’s the same as stumbling across an unconscious crime victim on the street, noticing that there is a gold watch next to them and picking it up. “Well, someone else would have grabbed it anyway”. When you shook the victim’s body back to consciousness you simply said “Hey man, you OK? Yeah, robbed. Total bummer. Hey, there was a watch next to you but I’m keeping that, M’kay?”

    Instead of condemning the crime of hacking someone’s personal account and using this platform to raise awareness, you’ve chosen the decidedly sleazy route. By publishing ANY of the documents that were illegally obtained you are fencing stolen goods. The only difference is that you are making your money through ad rev.

    But hey, you’ve got a web site here and revenue to make on your ads. Go grab some more clicks!

  • http://thenextweb.com/2009/07/15/twitter-breakin-exposes-major-flaws-cloud-computing-simply-ready/ Twitter Break-in Exposes the Major Flaws in Cloud Computing. We are simply not ready yet. – The Next Web

    [...] Evan Williams, Twitter’s co-founder, confirmed there had been a targeted attack on Twitter and was aware of the various media that had been posted. I don’t particular want to regurgitate all the news , TechCrunch has it well covered and discusses the various documents they are considering publishing here. [...]

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph_Bowman/636446293 Joseph Bowman

    Since others are using the great parental lessons analogies… if WSJ jumped off a cliff, would Techcrunch follow?

    Techcrunch isn’t really news, it’s entertainment. I often eat popcorn while reading it. See the above post for an example.. or the one where someone got mad at Michael and threw a fit, which of course got posted… or how about the Scoble photos?

    Techcrunch is the TMZ for geeks. Yes, I do find it entertaining, but it only took a week of reading to come to the decision that things such as journalistic integrity and ethics really matter to the authors. I do find it absolutely hilarious that the above post postures Techcrunch as being a news source in the same league as something like WSJ though.

  • Rick

    If these were some super top secret documents from MySpace they would have been published by now without all this discussion….Just saying.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nils_Engelking/582052080 Nils Engelking

    Publishing these documents spurs hackers to attack even more start-ups!

    On which side are you Michael?

  • ajadoniz

    It also acknowledges that terrorists win. Who do you want answering the phone at 3am?

  • Scott

    People keep bringing up the “public right to know” defense here, as if this is in any way like a publicly-elected official being caught up in an illegal act, etc. Come’on folks, this is “public wants to know” which is very different. Using Arrington’s logic then, if a hacker stole all his personal financial information later today, it’s perfectly fine for any other Blog to publish it all, because 1) even though it was stolen, the Blog didn’t personally do it, 2) some might want to know the juicy bits (its therefore “news”), and finally 3) if this Blog didn’t scoop it, someone else would. Ha.

  • Geoff

    Hey Mike – If someone steals some of your private TechCrunch information, sends it to you, and you deem it newsworthy, will you publish it on TechCrunch?

  • fcp

    umm, they almost always do request comments from the company or individual involved a short time before publication. Informing is very far from asking for permission.

  • http://twitter.com/ocirion Michael

    Agreed with Scott.

    If this was leaked Arrington emails, he would be pissed and would certainly want them kept quiet.

    Should the information contained therein affect the general public or be illegal, publishing is a no-brainer. But under these circumstances its just going to screw Twitter.

    I also really don’t believe that this just ‘fell’ into your inbox. Come on, we aren’t all idiots, we know TC isn’t that tight with French hackers. How much did those leaked documents cost ?

    Don’t be suprised, Arrington, if this affects your relationship with Ev, Biz etc in a really bad way.

  • http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/07/confidential-twitter-docs-fly-into-inboxes.html Confidential Twitter Docs Fly Into Inboxes

    [...] UPDATE: TechCrunch Responds to the Response [...]

  • Justice Douglas

    Aw, it’s cute to see Arrington talking about free speech and the right to publish. Especially the quote about, “News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress.”

    Um, have you forgotten the whole, “Holocaust denial != free speech!” screed you were on a few weeks ago?

  • Barry Morris

    There is a profound difference between using newsworthy information from a whistle blower and using information that was provided by an external hacker. What you are doing is more analogous to Hustler printing indecent photos provided by an ex-boyfriend or taken surreptiiously by a photographer. Not good, and NOTethical.

  • Robert G

    Yeah but don’t we kinda hope that the internet provides a better model of doing things – turns out if you ask people how they want their news outlet to behave (which is possible on the interwebs) they don’t want you to do it?

    I def agree with the comments about that this fails the UK public interest test. It is clearly distasteful…

    But having said all that – so long as we are happy hating journos – surely the publish what you like system kinda promotes free speech and protects the public by ensuring nothing is safe – so you better behave

  • billyw

    if this was MSFT, most of the naysayers would be singing a different tune.

  • Mr. Drano

    The whole situation is immature and demonstrates what is wrong with the tech industry and its domination by what I consider children. Twitter itself is only possible because morons endlessly post idiotic and uninteresting drivel that only someone with an IQ under 80 could possibly be interested in. The biggest child in this, though, is the dirt bag who sent the documents to TechCrunch.

  • Greg

    “It’s not our fault that Google has a ridiculously easy way to get access to accounts via their password recovery question. ”

    LOL HAHA

    Thats like saying..

    It’s not my fault they didn’t lock their front door any anybody could walk in and steal their stuff. We didn’t actually steal it anyway, we just received it from the thief.

  • Jason

    Arrington – this is not cool.

    Post the financial projections, but leave everything else along.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob_Gourley/689404702 Bob Gourley

    So all the good info you get is “stolen.” You are creating a market for thieves and in cases where you encourage hackers to break the law and attempt unauthorized access to computers you are doing bad. I’m not sure if there are laws against encouraging illegal behavior, but I would like to see a law enforcement investigation into your roll in this.

    Of course I wish @ev would have used secure passwords and better protected his information. That is a lesson for all of us. But don’t blame the victim for this crime. Blame the criminal and his accomplices.

  • http://www.dan-london.com Dan

    My thoughts…

    if TC makes money via page views and they publish the stolen material, doesn’t that mean that they are profiting from stolen goods?

  • http://www.aafter.com Subhankar Ray

    I am more interested in the technical details of how the hacker did it, and what we all can do to prevent this in future. That will be public service from TC.

  • Carolyn

    You’re sounding more and more like a psychopath trying to justify why he picks up roadkill for fun.

    “Hey, if I don’t, another psycho will!”

  • Anonymous

    As a human being, do you think it’s the right thing to publish these documents? If this happened to TC, would you be OK if you were hacked and someone else published your internal docs?

    If you answer yes to both those questions, then go ahead and publish the docs.

    But if you answered yes to both those questions, I will no longer visit TC.

  • http://woodmarvels.com Jon

    I second that… it would make for a more fascinating story for sure!

    Jon

  • http://davezoltok.com Dave

    Got to agree, you’re saying “we’ll publish anything that people might be interested in, regardless of where that information comes from or how it was obtained,” which is exactly the argument that tabloids make when they write stories based on dubious and not-necessarily-correct sources. You could easily report that a hacker broke into and is distributing confidential corporate files from Twitter, and that really is news. Turning around and re-distributing those files under the guise of journalism is the worst kind of reporting; ignoring journalistic ethics in favour of what will bring readers to your site.

  • Boris

    If you were publishing these articles purely for the news value, then you wouldn’t throw up a cloak-and-dagger post about how you’re GOING to publish them. You did that post, and actually, this one, purely for publicity, and that makes you whores.

  • http://fr.techcrunch.com/2009/07/15/laffaire-twitter-techcrunch-des-documents-ultra-confidentiels-concernant-twitter-sur-le-point-detre-publies/ L’affaire Twitter-Techcrunch: Des documents ultra-confidentiels concernant Twitter sur le point d’être publiés

    [...] une partie très prochainement (sans doute dans les 24 heures qui viennent). Décision qui suscite déja une très grosse polémique sur le web Américain. Voici l’article de [...]

  • http://solardave.com Dave Dugdale

    Don’t post them, but do a good story on how the password was guessed to unlock the documents – that is your bigger story.

  • Mickelodian

    Hmmmm… Okay… can I then publish the hacked info I have on Techcrunch? seems its fair game.

  • http://techcrunchies.com Anand

    So, what do those projections say? Deadpool in how much time? Please tell…

    Anyway, I am not bothered if its news about Twitter..

  • http://www.londontheatreblog.co.uk Andrew Eglinton

    Ah, the good old historical precendent clause. It still doesn’t explain why you chose to announce the fact that you were going to publish leaked documents as opposed to just publishing them outright as you admit to doing with other stories.

    It does suggest that you anticipated the public furore and saw it as a chance for some disruptive publicity. If so then 300+ comments and a trending topic later, you could say it has been a publicity 101 lesson.

    Either way, I think we can safely quote 1938media on this one: “it doesn’t matter”.

  • a1lol

    Aren’t you going to ruin any relationship you guys have with the Twitter guys?

    I think it’s unethical to post. It’s the same concept as blood diamonds. You have a choice to buy or not.

    Sure most of us here will woo and ahh if you do post because it’s interesting stuff, but are we really suffering much if you guys withhold the info?

  • Jon

    You DICK Michael. Just post them, you were going to before, now this fluffy crap piece. Did your discussions with Twitter reveal they would stop rimming you if published?

  • http://www.aflux.net antigone

    What’s funny is that in all this protest, I bet it will be one of the most read TC articles ever. People SAY you shouldn’t bottle neck but they always do. It’s just too hard to look away..,

  • http://www.qwertz.de/techcrunch-veroffentlicht-geheime-twitter-dokumente-vor-der-publikation-des-vertraulichen-materials-wirft-sich-arrington-in-pose/ QWERTZ » Blog Archiv » TechCrunch veröffentlicht geheime Twitter-Dokumente: Vor der Publikation des vertraulichen Materials wirft sich Arrington in Pose

    [...] keiner die Inhalte des Infopakets kennt, hat Arringtons Redaktion dann entschieden: Entgegen der Mehrheitsmeinung ihrer Leser werden sie Ausschnitte aus dem Twitter-Kram veröffentlichen. Ob sich’s lohnt, daran [...]

  • j 2 the b

    “Dirty little secrets
    Dirty little lies
    We got our dirty little fingers in everybodys pie
    We love to cut you down to size
    We love dirty laundry”

    If TC publishes this information, they are nothing better then a tabloid rag.

    Stay classy, Arrington.

    You should talk with @Ev and the Twitter guys, show them what you have, hand it over and move on. I’m sure your goodwill will pay off tenfold in the future in the form of Twitter exclusives.

    Don’t be a dick.

  • http://www.promocionweb20.com/2009/07/15/problemas-de-seguridad-en-google-docs-%e2%80%93-caso-twitter/ Problemas de seguridad en Google Docs – Caso Twitter
  • mr-fancypants

    Isn’t a journalistic rule, that every information has to be confirmed by three different sources until it get’s published?
    If it’s confidential information and you do have this three confirmed sources, then fire away and publish it. If not, let it be! Maybe you’re about to get tricked or it’s a PR stunt. Who knows?

    Just the fact, that it’s getting published somewhere on the internet isn’t a reason! It’s really not.

    Please, react like journalists do and check your sources and informations. If you’re not, you aren’t better than any guy who starts a blog and writes stuff that’s not true, because he thinks he’s a journalist now.

  • timy11

    you guys forget something….

    twitter us a private company… twitter may/may not “own” the IP/docs (depending on where they were stored, terms of conditions, etc…)

    if twitter is indeed the owner of the docs… and if the docs were actually “stolen” then anyone receiving the docs/distributing the docs might very well be charged with reciept of goods that were/are stolen. in some areas in the US, this is no different than if someone rips off your car, and i buy it, even if i don’t know it’s stolen..

    in this case, TC as a corp/llc structure could perhaps be held liable….

    this isn’t the same as somene getting “gov’t” docs and releasing them…

    welcome to the world of ethics meets legal due process.

    mike must have missed that law class…

    and oh, mike, did you pass the bar?

  • Sean MacDhai

    I do not need an ethics lesson from Arrington on what is right and wrong. I do not need a philisophical debate on journalism. These docs were obtained in a sinister and covert fashion, and a responsible journalist would report on the act, without posting the docs.

  • http://www.runlevel6.org Gianni A Chiappetta

    What gives *you* the right to tell Michael Arrington what is ethical and morally acceptable?

  • Simon

    I think why so many people disagree with this is because the majority of TC readers probably really like Twitter and want to see it succeed. This differs from the Yahoo leaked docs because most TC users probably favor Google over Yahoo and could have cared less about that. I think a lot of TC readers feel this may hurt Twitter’s growth and success if these docs are released and may feel betrayed by TC.

    All in all, I think you should listen to your readers. Yes, it may be breaking news, but if breaking news means pissing off 20% (more or less, not sure what the exact # would be) of your readers… is it really worth it?

  • http://www.qwertz.de/techcrunch-veroffentlicht-geheime-twitter-dokumente-vor-der-publikation-des-vertraulichen-materials-wirft-sich-arrington-in-pose-2/ QWERTZ » Blog Archiv » TechCrunch veröffentlicht geheime Twitter-Dokumente: Vor der Publikation des vertraulichen Materials wirft sich Arrington in Pose

    [...] keiner die Inhalte des Infopakets kennt, hat Arringtons Redaktion dann entschieden: Entgegen der Mehrheitsmeinung ihrer Leser werden sie Ausschnitte aus dem Twitter-Kram veröffentlichen. Ob sich’s lohnt, [...]

  • http://blog.redfin.com Glenn Kelman

    Do you think the material TC is publishing is possibly fraudulent? It seems like you’re clouding two issues: how TC got it and whether it’s true.

  • http://twitter.com/Ed Ed

    “News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising”

    News?

    Michael, this “news” someone wants to repress!
    It’s private information that was STOLEN.

    Mike, get ears.
    Take another February.

    Very sad.

  • jhlundin

    … it is theft …

  • LH

    Publishing ANY of the documents is unethical. Using ‘because someone else will’ does not excuse you for doing so, or from the repercussions of such a BAD decision.

  • http://saunderslog.com/2009/07/15/mike-arringtons-risk-calculation/ Mike Arrington’s risk calculation | Alec Saunders SquawkBox

    [...] some people, including senior industry folks that Twitter has been trying to recruit. There has been a strong reaction from some quarters, but as Mike [...]

  • Soenke Dohrn

    So what is your point? yes, the documents may be manipulated and it is dodgy to argue on their basis.

    However, I find it most interesting in light of cloud computing that this case demonstrates the difficulties in getting cloud computing off the hook, since security issues are still very present. It seems processes and guidelines are missing defining how to operate safely when moving to the cloud.

    To me it seems that there may be some fooled into believing that security is given as soon as you rely on “Google” or “Amazon”. However, missing the basics like strong random passwords and the like make it even easier to gain access to relevant information.

  • Phillip

    “News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising”, Is total bullsh*t. What about all the natural disasters that happen around the world? There’s no element of suppression there, it’s just sharing cold, hard facts with people who are INTERESTED in reading it. This blog is so crap.

  • Soenke Dohrn

    Fishing for excitement to the detriment of individuals is kinda foul to me.

    Business strategies is one thing, personal data of individuals is another altogether.

  • Soenke Dohrn

    Actually, with each choice journalism is presented with, it has the opportunity to define what journalism is about.

    Publishing the info relegates TC to tabloid levels, omitting publishing strengthens TCs standing with its readership.

    No brainer. Ack.

  • http://webecologyproject.org David Fisher

    Mike,

    If a company’s documents were “leaked” by someone burglarizing a company, I’m not 100% certain that those documents are sudden public domain and ripe for public publishing. IF Twitter was a publicly traded company I could see you having some SEC problems on your hands (although IANAL). I don’t think stolen goods are suddenly up for publishing by whoever gets a copy of them.

  • Soenke Dohrn

    Is this is what news is about? Only spending stolen money and declare it to be a service to mankind?

    Yup, to me it feels wrong participating by reading this stuff, too.

  • http://marshalsandler.com/ marshal sandler

    I am afraid that giving credibility to the hacker means that reading TC is like taking swimming lesson’s from a drowning man-Hard to believe that TC would consider this effective communication-this is like writing on the wall of a public restroom-

  • Anon

    To hell with the righteous idiots. Its news. Post it.

  • Soenke Dohrn

    I am with you: It is the same argument Shell tried to use when to deposit the Brent Spar in some random Fjord.

    It is Kant’s Categorical Imperative – there is no relative ethic but the Ethic. You cannot argue for your actions on the basis of somebody else action. If it is wrong it will not become right on the basis that somebody else might do something.

    Killing someone is not becoming morally right, only because the person might me killed by a joyrider.

  • Jan

    it might sound like a big disappointment, but in fact the US is just a country, not a continent. i know it’s the bad news of the day, but someone had to tell you.

  • Jan

    because it’s all about clicks and traffic and controversity helps a lot.

  • http://wanhoffs-vietnam.blogspot.com Thomas Wanhoff

    If TC would have published articles in the future regarding twitter and just saying “sources told that” or “information that was provided to TC”, nobody would say a word and we would cheer TC for how the hell they got this information. The difference is, that they told us where they got it from. And suddenly we recognize, that we don’t really want to know it. Like the meat we eat: Don’t show us these cute pigs we kill for our sausages.

  • zalman

    it don’t sound right to me.
    but i suppose that those of us who think it is wrong to post can decide not to look at the post.
    that won’t remedy the harm, but we don’t have to participate.

  • http://twitter.com/Ed Ed

    Oh please Mike.
    You’re fascinated that something landed on your lap, and offset a week of the recession.

    Looking Biz, Ev, Sara in the eye at the next gala should not be so easy.

    Or you have indeed lost the last of the plot…

  • Soenke Dohrn

    If other may have, I certainly have not argued on the basis of a process, but on the basis of the outcome of ones action.

    To condition the outcome by time: Security Issues in operation systems are made official in most cases once a bugfix is available.

    To condition the outcome by utility: 1942: Why should I make information available on Dutch hiding Jews to the Nazi authorities?

    Again, I argue on the basis of Kant’s Categorical Imperative: If the outcome of your action is morally wrong, then it will not become morally right, only because somebody else could do it as well.

  • http://www.davidalison.com David Alison

    Best reply I’ve read yet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Laura_McLellan/1182009491 Laura McLellan

    Excellent post about why TechCrunch should publish this information. Thank you for taking the time to explain! I hope critical readers will reconsider their negative reactions, just as I did. You have as much right to publish leaked information as does the NY Times or Washington Post. Where would we be without journalism?

  • http://www.lovestats.wordpress.com Annie Petti

    So disappointed. This could have been such a simple case of respecting privacy and recognizing ill-got gains. There is no loss of life or destruction of property being prevented by not sharing this information. Techcrunch. You let me down.

  • http://twitter.com/Ed Ed

    +1

  • http://www.netweaveonline.com NetWeave

    Saying it isn’t wrong to publish illegally-obtained documents is akin to claiming it isn’t wrong to sell stolen merchandise. Either way, the fence is making money off the stolen goods.

  • Chinee

    The wise man said it not who you know it who know you.

    Editor Note: the wise man learn it from the fortune cookie.

  • Rob

    I applaud your decision, well played.

  • Luis

    Dude, you must be Canadian to have such a confused notion between stolen & leaked.

  • Lao

    Because something has been done in the past does not mean it can or should be done in every instance. The stolen nature of the information puts it in a tainted ethical light (versus an employee who takes information upon leaving, by contrast.)

    Bad juju, Michael. Bad juju.

  • Aaron

    I understand that this (publishing leaked docs) is what new companies do, however the line “And if we have reason to believe it will be widely published regardless of what we do, the decision isn’t a hard one.” Sounds a whole lot like you are willing to through your ethics (as little as there may be) out the window for a mob that is willing to do the same. Historically, that perspective has only never been a good one.

  • Aaron

    Totally agree.

  • Jehosephat

    Some of us are. Bring on the documents!

  • Heldon

    Well, the weakest link is usually an easy to guess password.

    Twitter employees already proved in earlier incidents (remember the hijacked twitter admin account?) that they are pretty good in using easy to guess passwords.

  • Michelle Gouldsberry

    So, you’re essentially hacking by releasing documents meant to be kept confidential. And you justify this on what basis?

  • http://endlessplain.com/2009/07/15/michael-arrington%e2%80%99s-ethics-101-class/ Michael Arrington’s Ethics 101 Class | Serengeti Communications

    [...] his decision to publish the content.  Astonishingly, the primary image used in the post reads “Ethics 101. ” Arrington writes, ““I feel bad for Twitter and I wish this had never happened. But it did [...]

  • Jehosephat

    I’ll admit it isn’t Shakespeare, but:

    Who: TechCrunch
    What: Will publish confidential Twitter documents
    How: By pressing “Publish”
    When: Yeah, that one had me too
    Where: ON THE INTERNET
    Why: I guess they could have stated this in a lede, but what’s the big deal? They give a detailed explanation. Deal.

  • http://tomcheredar.com TChed

    Had you just proceeded to write the stories without explaining your actions, I think there would have been zero backlash. Everyone would be too busy discussing the NEWS about twitter. So yeah, I guess that’s what you get for opening up to the masses.

    I must say that I love the fact that huge ethical stuff like this gets published by the Editor instead of a “staff reports”, which is something the “serious” media would have resorted to. Mike, you seem more than willing to take the bad wrap for the sake of the story.

    Good job sir.

  • http://www.presenternet.com doug wolfgram

    Should TechCrunch release the Twitter private documents? http://vey.me/5180 #surveyme

  • Heldon

    just don’t tell which company and people it’s all about.

    Let’s assume we’re talking about documents of a company named “gaggle”, lead by the two genies “ve” and “zib”.

  • http://www.billhartzer.com/ Bill Hartzer

    It certainly is an ethics question. By publishing news that it stolen or not supposed to “get out to the public” you’re essentially endorsing people who hack “easy to guess” passwords and gain access to documents, no?

    But, there is a difference between publishing material where you don’t know the source and actually paying for something like that.

  • Jehosephat

    Your lack of a shirt.

  • Phill

    My god, I hope these documents are actually interesting after all of this hype and moral debate. I think that all of the information about individuals should be destroyed; its not even for TC’s eyes, nevermind ours.

    However, I wouldn’t mind flicking through any business models or projected revenue. Could be quite interesting. Also, If they have had any noteworthy buy out offers that would be cool.

  • mark

    It’s Israeli, not Isrealy…Israel, not Isreal…you sure your from there?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve_Cavrak/6904436 Steve Cavrak

    Ah, this discussion reminds me. We’re coming up on the 50th anniversary of Fellini’s La Dolce Vita.

  • Mario

    I agree wholeheartedly Michael. I read TechCrunch because you guys aren’t pussies, and do what you think is right for the world of news. I respect that tremendously. I also respect the fact that you won’t release the personal documents of Twitter employees because that has no place in this world.

  • dave

    Michael wouldn’t do it, he will trade with twitter to get more exclusive news later. now he is bluffing.

  • http://zoho.com Sridhar Vembu

    Mike, I hope you won’t publish. Here is a company that was a victim of a targeted attack. That *is* the news here and *that* news is already out.

    Yes, I agree the attacker could just post everything himself – but then that would be true even if TechCrunch were to publish a sanitized summary, and the attacker wants everything outed.

  • http://www.derekpilling.com Derek Pilling

    This is really easy.

    1) These documents were obtained illegally.
    2) TechCrunch is not at fault for “receiving” them.
    3) But publishing the inappropriately obtained documents gives voice to the hacker, encouraging the behaviour. Anyone who publishes these documents would be “complicit” in the crime.
    4) Therefore, they should not be published.

    The story here is that Twitter was hacked; it should end there. Isn’t that enough?

  • ghunda

    Nice job trying to paint yourself as some kind of an investigative news organization.

  • http://www.infohole.com/blog Gordon Page

    So you say you will post them, then you say you wont. Have some backbone, and stop wasting our time with another bullshit post.

  • fatmonkey

    Yeah, sorry about that. i’ve got quit a few mistakes and typos.
    By the way, did you know? Israelis are not native English speakers. We have this thing called Hebrew here. It’s a whole different language, so in Hebrew you spell Israeli slightly different ;)

  • http://www.creeksideconsultinggroup.com Mark@Creekside

    Now I know why I could never be a journalist/blogger. It wouldn’t even enter my realm of ethical thinking to take advantage of stolen goods. I wasn’t even a boy scout and I would have called the company directly to report the breach and worked with the authorities to track down the criminal. If someone handed you the keys to a stolen Ferrari would you take it out for a ride. The fact that you even have to think about makes it pretty clear how blurry your ethical line is.

  • http://broadstuff.com/archives/1785-Dont-put-your-data-in-the-Cloud,-Mrs-Worthington.html broadstuff

    Don’t put your data in the Cloud, Mrs Worthington…

    Story of teh day is the hacking of emails and other documents from Twitter’s systems. Now the big hullabaloo is the ethics of what to publish, but we think the real lesson is that if you store your data in The Cloud, you are far more at risk from thes…

  • Steve Espinosa

    Let’s all stop acting like if they publish this it is the end of the world. The documents are going to get published anyways.

    It would be a completely different story if Techcrunch was the only publication standing in the way of this going public, but they are not.

    Techcrunch is a news publication, and I think if they didn’t post these documents just because everyone loves Ev and Biz is dumb. Because if these were Zuckerberg documents people would be outside Techcrunch with pitchforks demanding they be released.

  • http://www.wireturf.com David

    without any context, there’s no real indication he’s having a “bad night” because of any of this stolen data. Its embarrassing for a little while but it will quickly pass over and all will be forgotten just like so often happens in this biz.

  • Sanjay Sharma

    Thank you TC!

  • David

    You didn’t steal the documents and they’re going to be published anyway. So I don’t see any issue here. I guess everyone just wants us to ignore anything that is leaked out. CIA documents, revealing phone logs, just throw them away.

  • http://gigaom.com/2009/07/15/many-unknowns-in-twitter-document-breach/ Many Unknowns In Twitter Document Breach

    [...] of various Twitter employees. Putting aside the question of whether or not the documents should be made public, there is a lot we don’t know about how the data was [...]

  • http://www.thesimpledollar.com/ Trent Hamm

    I can’t help but wonder if TechCrunch’s presence on Twitter’s suggested users list isn’t having an impact on their decision. 800K+ followers is a lot of influence that’s been gifted to TC by Twitter.

    I have no idea if Arrington and co. are influenced by this, but I know if I were in their shoes, it would probably be on my mind.

    More than anything, I think the Suggested Users List needs more democracy. If that list were heavily rotated out of a pool of valuable Tweeters, this wouldn’t even be an ethical question.

  • http://digitalmedia.typepad.com Darren Yan

    Michael,

    Hopefully, this will be the last time you receive anything from hackers. It will be useful that TC takes a stand on hackers who deliberately break into someone’s private accounts to obtain data/info that does not belong to them.

    Darren

  • Kevin

    Aren’t there laws about receiving stolen property? Can you be prosecuted if you publish this?

  • Secret Police

    IMHO, Google may have secretely passed this info since they could not buy them, destroy them.

    After MSFT we are creating another monster, no different between MSFT and GOOG, they belong to the same tribe.

  • John

    And you must be American to not understand his clear explanation of the difference

  • Altek

    Publish it, this is what journalism is, don’t get worried about people saying its unethical, they will be the first people to read the news.

  • Jamie

    It is simple.

    IF you decide to publish said documents Tech Crunch can easily be dragged into court over the mess which costs whoever owns Tech Crunch money. Hiding behind a veil of journalism and freedom of the press will only get you so far when the reality is that Twitter probably has deeper pockets than TechCrunch when it comes to a legal battle.

    The reality is that regardless of whether you think it is within your legal right to publish it or not, Twitter can still make your life miserable dragging it into court and it WILL become an issue of who can hold out longest while the money hose is wide open with the attorneys.

  • http://www.cloudave.com/link/twitter-hack-exposes-internal-company-documents Twitter hack exposes internal company documents | CloudAve

    [...] was hacked. Techcrunch has chosen to publish some of those documents, the question is, was this a good choice or a bad choice. Many companies have been hacked, some companies like Torrent Spy have found that it was an [...]

  • http://gesterling.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/never-trust-the-cloud/ Never Trust ‘The Cloud’? « Screenwerk

    [...] Trust ‘The Cloud’? By Greg Sterling First the Twitter docs controversy: A hacker sent hundreds of allegedly authentic internal Twitter docs to TechCrunch. There was much [...]

  • Sanjay Sharma

    That french site only contains some info. The author said that he left out anything that would damaging to Twitter. Actually, it was a quite boring post with no real meat.

  • Sanjay Sharma

    Maybe, or maybe not. Reporters report. If its relevant to the readers, they should publish. This is the real work, people. Just because it hit a little too close to home (Twitter lovers) you protest?! Lame.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elizabeth_Velez/805690454 Elizabeth Velez

    I don’t see what’s morally wrong here, but maybe I just don’t understand all the facts here. Correct me if I’m wrong, an employee leaked confidential documents and by revealing those documents TC is committing a moral offense? Not following that logic.

  • BD

    Why not try to “come out golden” here? Out of all of the docs you came across, let’s say 3 or 4 are really newsworthy. Why not ask for a meeting with Twitter, returning a copy of all of the docs (to help them perhaps figure out how this happened?) and ask them to provide comment to the ones you are going to release, so you can provide the docs and their comments/responses side by side, to let the readers judge for themselves… and give them a fair chance to see and respond before it is essentially too late for them, after the fact whilst caught up in all of the noise.

    Isn’t that what real news organizations do?

  • Sanjay Sharma

    Dude, sack up and grow some balls. Is tech news supposed to be only “promoting” tech companies? NO! Twitter’s plans are extremely relevant news, and something that should not be squelched. If they screwed up, its their fault. PUBLISH I SAY!

  • MD

    “I believe it is significantly less of an ethical issue than Gawker’s posting of Sarah Palin’s private emails.”

    Why? Oh, that’s right — because TechCrunch gets the page hits, not Gawker.

  • http://daniel-peters.de/twitter-unternehmensdokumente-geleakt/ Daniel Peters » Blog Archive » Twitter-Unternehmensdokumente geleakt

    [...] Arrington sieht es jedoch als seine journalistischen Pflicht an, die meisten der Dokumente zu veröffentlichen. Natürlich nicht ohne selbst davon zu [...]

  • Olim

    Go ahead!!! This kind of issues make that the big companies focus in develop more secure sites, and investigate new techniques. Good luck!!

  • i lold

    No matter. Sooner or later this is gonna end up getting posted on some crap site like http://www.anonboard.com anyway

  • http://davezoltok.com Dave

    I don’t think the information in the documents is fradulent (although they easily could be by the time they end up in public), but I do think it’s not particularly newsworthy. It seems like the news here isn’t the contents of the documents, but the fact that the documents were stolen and released at all, and the circumstances under which that happened. A lot of countries lately, particularly the UK, have had problems with people’s medical records and other government records turning up in public. News agencies recognized the difference between publishing information about the record loss, and publishing the records themselves.

    Besides, it’s not up to TechCrunch to decide what content is OK to publish based on their perspective of what is “harmful to the company.” Notes from a business meeting about potential features may mean nothing to end users, but they present a huge problem when the notes are stolen and published, and a month later another company releases a Twitter client that provides that feature because they got the idea from the leaked notes. Legally, TC is probably in the clear to publish whatever they want from these documents, but they’ve already stated that they won’t put out anything that “they” feel is sensitive, but they aren’t the ones to decide what’s sensitive; Twitter is. And if Twitter decides that every document is sensitive and potentially damaging if leaked to the public, then TC is going to have to suck it up.

  • http://rubencausyn.be/2009/07/15/news-is/ News Is … « Ruben Causyn

    [...] found on TechCrunch [...]

  • G.O.

    Releasing the documents is a “mega crime”?

  • Mark

    LOL @BD Real news organizations don’t exist.

    Post the documents. Finders keepers. They should have secured their documents better if they believed them to be so ‘confidential.’ I don’t foresee them containing anything actually interesting though, too much hype for nothing.

  • josh

    I would hope someone hacks TC and does the same. I can imagine Mike would be twittering about how illegal it is…

  • http://jyoseph.com jyoseph

    I think it’s appropriate that there’s a google ad at the top of this page as I type my comment.

  • josh

    Leaked != Stolen.

  • josh

    its not “real work”. I hate Twitter, and I still dont think its right for this. But Mike is a douche, and will do whatever to make a name for himself.

  • http://www.vmalni.com/2009/07/hacker-pissed-techcrunch-moving-bold-twitter-is-shaking/ Hacker Pissed, Techcrunch Moving Bold, Twitter Is Shaking » Vmalni

    [...] While TC might make this lovely cute startup shaking a little bit, i am pretty sure that it will not effect the growth of twitter user, the popularity and probably will not effect the shareholders too. But if Techcrunch decided to publish Twitter’s businesss model or anything related to finance, it maybe is too harsh. [...]

  • http://www.vmalni.com/ Buzzlair Voufincci

    I agree if TC would want to publish the data. As long as TC dont “cross the line”.

    I believe that TC dont want to have a bad relationship with Twitter. They already had a bad relationship with last.fm. Twitter is a beautiful lady. So i think is nice to play sexy with Twitter.

  • PotomacWill

    The NY Times, in a story posted about an hour ago, clued me in http://is.gd/1A0ho and was, for me a good illustration of the great value of Old Media.

  • http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=21172 The Twitter hack: Let’s not start blaming Google or the cloud | Between the Lines | ZDNet.com

    [...] in a subsequent post, where he tries to justify why he is considering posting some of the documents, he writes: It’s [...]

  • Steve

    Completely agree.

    And to those who say they will be published anyway, that is no excuse. How ridiculous to even say such a thing. If Michael doesn’t publish them and others do, then he can hold his head high.

    Michael, you will gain more publicity and respect for NOT publishing just because you can.

  • Steve

    WRONG. “Leaked” is a breach of an employees fiduciary duty and normally just a civil issue. “Stolen” is a criminal issue,

  • http://twittercism.com/twitterfail/ With The World Watching, Twitter Gets Caught With Its Pants Down | Twittercism

    [...] that TechCrunch is privy to hundreds of confidential Twitter documents. No doubt you’ve seen the reaction to that news. And maybe reading the first leak, a proposal for a Twitter TV show called Final Tweet [...]

  • ivv

    I don’t know where Arrington got his law degree, but he must be unfamiliar with the concept of trade secrets and the fact that California Uniform Trade Secrets Act prohibits their misappropriation.

    In Cal. Civ. Code 3426.1, misappropriation, in part, is defined as “disclosure or use of a trade secret of another without express or implied consent by a person who: (B) at the time of disclosure or use, knew or had reason to know that his or her knowledge of the trade secret was (i) Derived from or through a person who had utilized improper means to acquire it.

    Either it’s one big circus orchestrated by Twitter’s publicists (anyone knows the company?) or TC is in for possible damages.

  • http://bustedkeys.com Busted Keys

    personally i’m in favor of transparency. and ethics only seem to be an issue when privacy is breached to buy/sell information. hmm…i’m still mulling over this one. but i agree with the comment made by Lord Northcliffe. most of the unsuppressed stuff is just more shameless advertising and PR…but he died of megalomania?! ha!

  • Brian M.

    You cite other news sources behaving in this manner as if it somehow assuages your own conscience. A lot of people do a lot of morally questionable things (can you imagine Nixon using this sort of defense?) but that does not make them right. You’re just geeked because you’re going to see a spike in webhits and be the Tweet of Twitter for a couple of minutes. It would be different if what you are posting is of vital importance to the community (Twitter’s servers are powered by puppies harnessed to giant gerbil wheels!) but you just want to be the one with the scoop. Call it what it is and stop pretending to be “journalists.”

  • Dave

    As someone who works for a news organization, I agree with Techcrunch completely. At what point does this become news for TC? They know about the plans and financial projections… but they are supposed to wait for it to show up on the twitter blog to write about it?

    Stealing is wrong… rewarding someone (paying) for stealing is wrong… fully disclosing useful information that was placed in your lap is no-brained journalism… this is a duh decision.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elizabeth_Velez/805690454 Elizabeth Velez

    I’ve done a little research and realize I made a mistake in judgment.

  • http://www.ronsfeldman.com Ron

    In addition to the fact that this is broadly and obviously unethical, consider the fact that publishing any of these documents will encourage other hackers to try to steal corporate info for sale to entities like Techcrunch.

    Negotiating with terrorists or giving ransom to pirates/kidnappers only serves to encourage it. This is the same thing. Blaming poor security/passwords, etc. is like saying it’s ok to coddle/negotiate with pirates or kidnappers because their victims’ security wasn’t good enough. Embarrassing, plain and simple.

    And the fact that Techcrunch may not have paid for or solicited this info? Largely irrelevant as it’s clear that this person at least tried to do this and Techcrunch’s example will only serve to encourage others to buy it first to scoop Techcrunch next time.

  • josh

    exactly.

  • josh

    well its not like people click on the ads, they just get page load counts. At least for me anyways, I’ll see the company name in the ad, then go find it myself…

  • josh

    No. Don’t post anything. Its not like this is the government and can change our lives. Its freakin Twitter!

  • josh

    I notice how no TC “journalist” is responding…I guess just watching their adsense over an over…

  • http://kneedeepincode.com Oscar Godson

    Lets take stolen documents from a company not making money and is not evil and let’s read through all of them and post them to a huge crowd. Whee!

    DON’T COMPLAIN, just stop coming here. I am, losing the feed, and I’m going to stop clicking and sharing links.

    Good bye.

  • http://techdusts.com/2009/07/16/security-breach-at-twitter-twitter-plans-to-be-the-1st-internet-service-to-reach-1-billion-users/ Security Breach At Twitter; Twitter Plans To Be The 1st Internet Service To Reach 1 BILLION Users! | TechDusts

    [...] TechCrunch : Our Reaction To Your Reactions To the Twitter Confidential Documents Post by Michael Arrington [...]

  • jcunwired

    I would be interested in hearing how loudly you would whine were it Twitter that received confidential information about Techcrunch. Glad to see that TechCrunch found that “ethical line” and tripped right over it, falling face first into the sewer.

    Some view you as a news agency, most as a group of bloggers (I am in the second camp, your obvious bias could hardly be called reporting). Now it appears your true colors have begun to show, and you’re nothing more than a gossip columnist.

    Or, from my own perspective, you’re just scum.

    Have a nice day.

  • Adam

    To all of you people who disagree with this…. YOU ARE READING THIS INFORMATION… YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE.

    And you’ll read the next posting even though you know you’re a hypocrite.

  • http://kneedeepincode.com Oscar Godson

    You are 100% correct my friend. Twitter is in America so the laws DUE apply. I’m not sure where TC gets these completely pulled out of the as statements like:

    “And it certainly was unethical, or at least illegal or tortious, for the person who gave us the information and violated confidentiality and/or nondisclosure agreements. But on our end, it’s simply news.”

    No, it’s still stolen property, digital property.

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com/2009/07/15/is-mike-arrington-still-a-dick/ Is Mike Arrington Still a Dick? « The Angry Drunk

    [...] For the first time since matter coalesced from the energy soup that followed the Big Bang, the answer to that question has changed from “yes” to “no.” For, you see, Mike Arrington has managed to transcend the bonds of mere dickdom and has risen to new heights of douchebaggery. [...]

  • http://jp.techcrunch.com/archives/20090714in-our-inbox-hundreds-of-confidential-twitter-documents/ Twitter社を荒らしたハッカーが秘密文書を大量にTechCrunchに送りつけてきた!

    [...] アップデート: Twitter秘密文書の公開に対するコメントに対するコメント (英文) [...]

  • http://www.techprdecoder.com/?p=487 Techcrunch Prepares to Push the Limit Once Again… « The Decoder

    [...] a July 15, 2009 post responding to the original post’s comments, Michael Arrington states, “That doesn’t [...]

  • http://www.esarcasm.com/2026/the-arrington-backlash-awards-twitters-most-amusing-insults/ The Arrington Backlash Awards: Twitter’s Most Amusing Insults

    [...] let the “Ethics 101″ graphic on his recent blog posting fool you — Michael Arrington isn’t exactly an authority on integrity. When [...]

  • David

    What a bunch of whining hypocrites. Nobody complains when pictures of a prototype from their beloved Apple are stolen and published. These documents are much less damaging to the company in question, but since they’re also less interesting, it’s easier to jump to judgement on your ethics.

  • http://alastairs-place.net alastair

    Well, yes, except that there’s a fair chance that some “leaks” from Apple are officially sanctioned, but made to look like leaks for the publicity value. This clearly wasn’t.

  • me

    There is probably a good chance TC gained more readers than it lost considering the coverage this is getting. For TC the business this was an excellent move, and half the people giving this dude shit might be asking him for a job in a while depending on how he works the press. At this point TC already has the attention, so whether the rest of the documents are published at all is kind of moot. Most of the info was bland so far anyway. It didn’t seem particularly damaging or embarrassing to Twitter. Maybe he could decide it was unethical now because he already has the new views and this might keep the old readers happy.

  • BrandonH

    The common occurence of something doesn’t make that something right. How could you have missed this concept? And talking with lawyers may make you feel comfortable with what’s legal, but you guys have also confused what is legal to do with what is right to do.
    The weakest argument is that you publish something because, if you don’t, someone else will…even lots of people. But TC wasn’t started as a suit-and-tie news organization: it’s a tech blog for crying out loud.

    You could have chosen another path, and THAT could have been yet another differentiator for you. Instead, you choose this path. Again.

    Disappointing that with your readership you choose not to take the high road time and time again.

    So you can post on and on about your ethical dilemmas but your actions speak louder than your words.

  • Stefan

    I totally disagree with Techcrunch’s stance on this. The news is that the data was stolen.

    That is worth a story about Google Apps / How to use passwords properly, not about twitter’s business strategy. Nobody questions that TC has the info on hand so what do they wanna prove here?

    TC is a web institution and broke the news first, but to argue that somebody else will publish it so we may as well do it first is just unprofessional.

    If the hacker / criminal choses to publish it elsewhere, TC can respond with a well-versed analysis since they have access to the documents but to publish them in absence of any wrongful doing on twitters part is wrong.

    If I were twitter, I would simply ignore TC afterwards.

    Nobody is served by publishing this and to think they have the right / obligation to do only shows that TC is less of a web institution that I would have assumed – just another opportunist

  • http://www.adrocket.com Scott – AdRocket

    Mike, this is seriously wrong. You are encouraging theft and releasing seriously private info that no one at the company meant to get out. I’m really dissapointed in you and TC to even consider it.

    image if you had said we re’d all these amazing docs, but we’re gonna do the right thing… Your cred would have shot up instead of looking evil just to get some more ad views.

  • http://cscannella.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/unethical/ Unethical « extensions

    [...] July 15, 2009 · Leave a Comment That’s the only word I can think that properly describes this. [...]

  • Darren

    So are you saying that when traditional newspapers publish stolen or leaked (in the sense that the leaker does not own the intellectual property of the documents) every single day, they are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts and not to sell more papers?

  • http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2009/07/15/twitter-hacked-oh-no-mister-bill/ Twitter Hacked – Oh No Mister Bill! ~ The Blade by Ron Schenone

    [...] TechCrunch source #2 [...]

  • Peter

    Shameful.

  • ThompsonPaul

    “Placed in their laps”?

    Shya, right. The willingness to deal with knowingly stolen material immediately forces me to suspect they also wouldn’t have been above paying for said “scoop”.

    And Mr Arrington: “Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”.

  • http://www.benbarren.com/?p=5458 Ben Barren – Confessions of a Mad Man » so twitter got hacked + no1 is responsible not.

    [...] irony is the data Techcrunch is leaking that came to them via just another stealing “tortious” source AKA Hacker Croll who procured via a pyramid of guessing password retrieval questions to [...]

  • Travis

    Just release them already, before the end up on http://www.wikileaks.org……...

  • http://Tweepular.com Jason Tryfon

    “If you disagree with that, ok. But then you also have to disagree with the entire history of the news industry”

    Says who you?

    Is this the lawyer side of you coming out Michael, or do you simply feel we all should believe exactly what you feel or say?

  • :-O

    Google just handed Microsoft the “serious” enterprise for good.

    Who in their right mind would use Google Apps for anything but the most mundane materials now???

  • http://www.bloggersbase.com/articles/technology/internet/twitter-updates-for-2009-07-15/ BloggersBase Internet

    Twitter Updates for 2009-07-15…

    RT @johnbattelle: Check out bing + twitter – bingtweets! A msft fm joint http://www.bingtweets.com#RT @Minervity: RT @robinmwood: 12 Brilliant #Photoshop Tutorials http://bit.ly/jMTsL#RT…...

  • http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/the-debate-over-publishing-stolen-twitter-documents/ The Debate Over Publishing Stolen Twitter Documents – Bits Blog – NYTimes.com

    [...] Mr. Arrington pointed out in a subsequent post that much of what his blog and many other publications publish is confidential [...]

  • Peater Ingres

    Direct Question to Mike:

    If instead of Twitter, it were from an important advertiser on TechCrunch, major player in the web scene, would you proceed this way ? Would you release the info with all this apparatus (buzz generator to get comments and pageviews) ?

    Straight answer please Mike.

  • Jason

    The docs were stolen because Twitter was stupid enough to use a web service (Google Apps) to store what were apparently highly confidential information. All the hacker needed to do was figure out a user’s Google account password, which he apparently did, and he’s in. It isn’t Google’s fault; the user probably had a very weak password, and voila, once the hacker had it he was in.

    What in the hell were they thinking???

  • angryuser

    i am so angry at this shameless thing u have done.. this is unethical..

  • Christian

    I agree with Richard. Justifying this comes down to 2 things:

    1. Intent
    2. Social benefit

    Intent is still up for grabs, but there is little social benefit to placing these documents into the public domain. I think overall, we’re worse off with these publicly posted. This informaiton wasn’t forfeit through cunning, connections, superior technology, research, etc. This was obtain through blatant theft.

  • Karthik

    I didn’t kill the chicken, the butcher did, I just ate it. Will that make me a vegetarian?

  • http://bloggingtom.ch/archives/2009/07/15/hacker-veroffentlicht-twitter-internas/ Hacker veröffentlicht Twitter-Internas » BloggingTom

    [...] sind. Trotzdem hält er an der Veröffentlichung fest, wie er in einem neuen Blogbeitrag bekräftigt… von BloggingTom, abgelegt unter Blogging, InternetPermalink | Trackback URI print it! | [...]

  • http://freshzweinull.de/2009/07/datenleck-bei-twitter-offenbart-finanzplane-1-mrd-nutzer-und-154-mrd-umsatz-bis-2013/ Datenleck bei Twitter offenbart Finanzpläne: 1 Mrd Nutzer und 1,54 Mrd $ Umsatz bis 2013 | freshzweinull +++

    [...] Michael Arrington erklärt in einem Beitrag nicht ohne Doppelmoral und unter massiven Protesten seine Gründe für die Veröffentlichung: [...]

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vinod_Tonangi/1349531453 Vinod Tonangi

    What you are doing is basically telling hackers to go ahead and hack away, and send you the information they get so you can post it on your blog and make them famous. You are contributing to the problem – not solving it. Reporting that you received this information was good enough, but releasing these documents crosses the line legally, and ethically.

    It’s like buying a stolen stereo and then telling the cops you didn’t know it was stolen. You would still be liable.

  • Shivangi Narayan

    Hey Mike go check out the movie “Absence of Malice”..will surely do you good :)

    Anyways, news always affects some one for the worse and it is also true that ethics is not all black and white. It all depends on whose side you want to be on. Anyways, it will be a crime for a journalists to sit around pleasing everyone before breaking a story. If it is true, it’s ought to be there. NOW.

  • jay

    i’m disappointed with techcrunch too – and a long-time reader.

    this feels UNETHICAL & SHADY.

  • http://www.tapahont.info/2009/07/16/tweetdeck-la-solution-software-pour-twitter-iphone-air/ Tapahont.info » Blog Archive » Tweetdeck : la solution software pour twitter [iPhone - Air]

    [...] pas une façon détourner de revenir sur le pseudo débat actuel sur les révélations faites par TC mais juste un retour d’expérience dans ma quête du combo iPhone/MacBook idéal pour gérer [...]

  • Jack

    Wow. First time I ever heard of this site was when you guys are taking flak for leaking this information. And all I find is that you guys are nothing but jackasses.

  • http://businesstechfeed.com/2009/07/twitters-bitter-lesson-what-you-should-know/ Twitter’s Bitter Lesson – What You Should Know | BusinessTechFeed

    [...] a malicious site. Of course this is all great blogging fodder for the likes of TechCrunch, which is clearly enjoying baiting its readers. I don’t see that publishing Twitter’s company confidential information on a blog helps [...]

  • http://www.zdnet.de/news/wirtschaft_sicherheit_security_twitter_erhofft_sich_eine_milliarde_nutzer_im_jahr_2013_story-39001024-41500206-1.htm Twitter erhofft sich eine Milliarde Nutzer im Jahr 2013 – Security | News | ZDNet.de

    [...] und TechCrunch zugespielt, das gestern begonnen hat, einige davon zu verffentlichen. TechCrunch argumentiert, jede gute Nachricht sei eine, die irgendjemand nicht verffentlicht sehen wolle. Und wenn man die [...]

  • http://www.virtual-coach.com/forums/forums.php Barbara Ling, Virtual Coach

    Like I said, the controversy is generating publicity this site couldn’t have bought. TechCrunch knows how to intrigue and educate.

  • http://n/a Anthony Scott

    Lord Northcliffe’s quote “News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising,” should be taken in a very narrow context. Was M. Jacksons death advertising? I doubt there was anybody that wanted to keep his death hidden from the rest of the world. Case closed.
    Your publishing the documents might be unethical, but there are worse breaches of ethics going on online that just this, and although one mustn’t demean the ethics involved here, I agree that Twitter should have kept their ‘confidential’ information just that, and not stored it in the clouds.

  • http://netthoder.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/marerittdager-for-twitter/ Marerittdager for Twitter « NONA: nettverket for oss som jobber med nettmedier

    [...] Dokumenter den innflytelsesrike teknologibloggen har begynt å publisere innholdet i, noe mange av bloggens lesere har reagert kraftig på. Noe av det Techcrunch har skrevet om har vært relativt uskyldig, som idiotien i å bruke [...]

  • http://n/a Tony

    so, taking that argument that TC didn’t ask croll to hack twitter makes it OK?
    If someone steals your car and then sells it off to someone else who didn’t ask them to steal it, that makes it legal does it?
    That’s why there are laws against it. Fencing and handling stolen goods, no matter HOW the theft occurred, is still illegal, no matter how you dress it up or sanitize it.

  • http://lesinfos.com/2009/07/16/un-hacker-demasque-twitter/ Un hacker démasque Twitter | Lesinfos.com

    [...] et des connexions téléphones de certains employés. Après avoir épluché ses informations, Techcrunch a ainsi décidé de ne publier qu’une partie des fichiers, certains étant embarrassants pour les [...]

  • http://www.washingtonpost.com eadmunddie

    worldwide trading trend term web observed

  • http://davidspinks.com/2009/07/16/techcrunch-twitter-document/ Should TechCrunch Have Posted the Stolen Twitter Documents? « The Spinks Blog

    [...] records, financial projections and more.  Arrington and TechCrunch then, after mulling it over, decided to post some of these documents. At the time of writing this post, they’ve only posted the [...]

  • Kalman

    To summarize…

    It is going to be on the internet anyways, so we mind as well be the ones to make the money.

    That is great ethics!

  • http://www.jenkinslaw.org/blog/2009/07/16/do-you-remember-joey-coyle/ Do You Remember Joey Coyle?

    [...] including TechCrunch’s Michael Arrington. Arrington, who’s a lawyer himself, has decided to publish some of the purloined pieces (didja like that [...]

  • http://www.doncrossland.com Don Crossland

    I think you need to go back and review Ethics 101. You say you are perfectly in your rights to publish confidential documents stolen from Twitter because you didn’t steal them and they just “landed” in your inbox. Legally, you may be right. But, what if someone stole your car and then gave it to someone else? The person given the car knew it was yours and stolen, but decided to sell it for parts anyway. By your logic, the person selling the car is perfectly within their rights to do so since they didn’t steal the car in the first place.

    When you review Ethics 101 you’ll find that just because something is legal, doesn’t mean it’s ethical. You are right. Most news stories are information that someone was trying to hide. It is a fine line in news that is tread by reporters. But citing a few cases where other real news outlets crossed the line doesn’t make your actions ethical. A large portion of our congress receives millions of dollars annually from lobbyists. Does this mean, since most of them are doing it, that it’s ethical the accept money in exchange for votes?

    Obviously, the Twitter documents are news. I’m not making a judgement call on whether you should publish them or not. But quit acting like you’re taking the high road in this. Grow a pair and own up to the fact that you are distributing stolen property.

    It’s news but it’s not ethical.

  • http://doncrossland.com/blog/?p=102 Don Crossland » TechCrunch and Ethics 101

    [...] By now, most people know that Twitter was hacked and confidential documents were sent out to many blog sites for the public to see. One site TechCrunch is posting many of those documents. The reaction was decidedly negative so they posted this response. [...]

  • http://andrewhyde.net/wtf-episode-11-climb-some-hills/ WTF@ Episode 11 Climb Some Hills | Andrew Hyde – Startups. Start Here.

    [...] Twitter Fiasco techcrunch.com/2009/07/14/in-our-inbox-hundreds-of-confidential-twitter-documents/ techcrunch.com/2009/07/15/our-reaction-to-your-reactions-on-the-twitter-confidential-documents-post/ [...]

  • TYeDevilsDue

    How much did TC pay for the documents? I heard they were being shopped around…

  • http://elagaan.com financemaster

    ethically its illegal bt in 2day’s world of competition, everything is being done in order to make businees prosperous. Surely publishing sumeone’s confedential info is not legal bt who cares in this competitive world

  • http://elagaan.com financemaster

    i think techcrunch team is right… in dis competitive wolrd, if u r nt publishing those documents, then someone else will do.

  • http://elagaan.com financemaster

    yeah u r right dude

  • http://elagaan.com financemaster

    u r right dude…………

  • http://www.caregiving.com Denise Brown

    Two things stand out to me: Your readers have told you that they don’t agree with your decision to publish. You’ll publish any way because you don’t want to get scooped. Sounds very self-serving.

  • http://elagaan.com financemaster

    me also agree with u dear….

  • http://www.megfowler.com Meg

    A post about a post? Yikes. Blogs need to stop trying to be the story, and actually cover the news.

  • http://www.serengeticommunications.com/endlessplain/2009/07/15/michael-arrington%e2%80%99s-ethics-101-class/ Michael Arrington’s Ethics 101 Class | Serengeti Communications

    [...] his decision to publish the content. Astonishingly, the primary image used in the post reads “Ethics 101. ” Arrington writes, “I feel bad for Twitter and I wish this had never happened. But it did [...]

  • http://undercurrents.tmgstrategies.com/2009/07/16/techcrunchs-dilemma-to-publish-or-not/ TechCrunch’s Dilemma: To Publish Or Not? – Undercurrents

    [...] post prompted over a thousand responses, many negative, and also prompted TechCrunch to post an update, responding to the responses. TechCrunch’s position is simple: it received the information, [...]

  • xXZoomZoomXx

    Really now? Plagerism is what the news is made of? Maybe they’re topics that people want to keep quiet, but it’s not copying someone else’s words and reporting them without their permission. If a city was hit by a tornado I seriously doubt anyone is going to tell you that and say not to tell anyone else. The city’ll probably need help, and they’ll want people to know.

    Seriously, people? You make absolutely no sense!

  • Carl

    I’ve seen this a number of times and it reeks of logical fallacy: “News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising,”

    Even if it’s true, it doesn’t mean the converse is: just because somebody wants to suppress something, that doesn’t make it news.

    In this case, Michael’s defense seems to boil down to “Somebody, namely Twitter, doesn’t want us to publish this. Therefore it’s news.” And sorry, but that’s complete nonsense.

  • http://foo.ca richard

    So… my dying uncle didn’t ASK anyone to go kill someone with a healthy, donatable pair of kidneys. If someone goes out with the intent to provide him with said kidneys, and presents them anonymously in an ice-filled box… is it ethical for the doctors to install the kidneys in good old Uncle Bob?

    Not bloody likely.

    Information may be different, but it’s still tainted.

  • Defectuous

    While I feel this a ethical conundrum, they are within their legal bounds. I do agree with all the stolen information out there it just doesn’t feel right, but I support the choices made.

  • timmyjimmy

    Mikey baby. I told you this last night so lets make it clear. If what you/TC has/will publish(ed) is not authorized by twitter then it is VERY unlikely you will find protection as a
    news’ entity.

    This is MUCH different than leaked information. Leaked information by an employee in many cases is not an illegal act. Part of determining the legality has to do with the employee’s access to the information. If they possess the information as a part of their job, and in the case of electonric files, have accessed them without hacking or unauthorized access then usually it would be a civil matter between them and the company – NOT a legal matter.

    I’m starting to believe that TC/Mikey have been pulling our leg on this. I’ll bet TC had already discussed this with their legal team and had agreement from Twitter to publish a portion of the docs if the rest were kept secret.

    I think Mikey is fascinated because he’s laughing at how this is helping TC and his career. Has the NYT called you yet Mikey?

  • timmyjimmy

    * note * In above post I meant “NOT a criminal legal matter” when referring to leaked information vs. stolen information.

    Example: you are in a meeting and your boss tells you about the next product release. You phone up TC and tell them. Thats a leak. Sometimes this might be an illegal criminal matter. Sometimes its a potential civil legal matter between you and the company because you signed a confidentiality agreement.

    Sometimes it might just get you fired but isn’t a legal or criminal matter because you never had a shut up agreement.

    Sometimes its just a ploy to get publicity.

    But MOST OF THE TIME stolen information obtained by unauthorized access is one or more criminal acts falling under multiple federal and state statutes.

  • Brian

    An astute poster by the name of Corey published the following in response to TechCrunch’s intent to publish stolen information in the Undercurrents Web site – this is a relevant bit of the Society of Professional Journalists’ ethics code:

    “Avoid undercover or other surreptitious methods of gathering information except when traditional open methods will not yield information vital to the public. Use of such methods should be explained as part of the story.”

    Why does TechCrunch think that proprietary business information about a private company such as Twitter is “essential” information that should be shared with the public? Truth be told, it is not.

    TechCrunch is not engaging in the ethical practice of journalism. You are engaging in fencing of stolen information. In most US jurisdictions, this is a felony. Your cavalier attitude is akin to Judas washing his hands of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. That you have no concern for the harm you may cause a business that has been victimized by theft puts you at the level of the thief.

    I for one will never read another story you publish, nor will I ever visit your Web site again. I hope that other readers will do the same. Shame on you. I hope that justice is merciless.

  • Ryan

    It’s actually quite simple. If you have to ask if its ethical than obviously in your mind it isn’t.

    Purchasing or acquiring stolen goods is against the law. Why is it any different for documents?

    To claim you did not do the stealing is a cop out.

  • timmyjimmy

    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

    Legit news turns down anything known to be stolen and only publishes certain items known to be leaked.

    They do this in order to not participate in a crime. They do this to keep their companies out of court. They may or may not do it because its the eithical thing to do.

    I know 2 real reporters and when I talked to them about this they both laughed at how lame the web has made the so called ‘news’ sites.

    Their editors would never have approved publishing this information from a known theft.

    IF however it had been pubilshed somewhere else or otherwise released it would be fair game (to a certain extent).

    Too many people commenting on this site confuse the legal obtainment of information which is carefully weighed each day by legit news outlets with the publishing of known stolen information.

  • timmyjimmy

    Unfortunately, the internet has proven the opposite. Any fool can setup a blog and publish anything at all, including lies, stolen information, and irresponsible content.

    These sites waffle between hiding behind the first amendment, freedom of the press, and then pretending its “opinion” when their supposed press shield doesn’t support their actions.

  • timmyjimmy

    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!

    Wow, how many times can you folks confused leaked information with stolen information?

    Leaked information is provided to the press by someone authorized to be in its posession. PERIOD.

    If a media outlet accepts and publishes information from a known hacking/theft then it is participating in a crime and can be prosecuted. PERIOD.

    When TC gets a call from the DA’s office (are Twitter and TC in CA?) this will become a more serious situation.

    It may not go that far. Its kind of up to Twitter or maybe luck. If the DA already has a bug up his ass about making an example of a company in this space then this could be a fun ride. Talk about news :-)

  • timmyjimmy

    Simon, this has NOTHING to do with transparency. TC is in posession of stolen information.

    If you want Twitter to be ‘transparent’ well you have to ask THEM to publish, NOT TC.

    I am floored by your assertion that encouraging theft of information = transperancy.

    Maybe we should all start hacking businesses information and selling it/giving it to the “press” so it gets released.

    What purpose would it serve? Other than the selfish interests of the theif and in this case the news outlet that decided to publish it. NO public good occurs here. TC gets traffic for a few days.

    And overall, some idots on the web celebrate a criminal act. And some idiots encourage more criminal acts.

  • http://timmyjohnboy.com/2009/07/16/where-was-the-twitter-security-leak-and-how-could-it-have-been-avoided-my-take-on-the-twitter-information-leak/ Where Was The Twitter Security Leak and How Could It Have Been Avoided? My Take on the Twitter Information Leak at timmyjohnboy.com

    [...] information on some of the employees over at Twitter (not good press) and some news sources (namely TechCrunch) have said they’ll publish some of it!  Now there’s a bit of a debate over whether or [...]

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/16/twitters-internal-strategy-laid-bare-to-be-the-pulse-of-the-planet/ Twitter’s Internal Strategy Laid Bare: To Be “The Pulse Of The Planet”

    [...] confidential Twitter documents and screenshots landed in our inbox. We said we were going to post a handful of them only, and we’ve spent much of the last 36 hours talking directly to Twitter about the right way to [...]

  • http://shortformblog.com/tech/techcrunch-on-publishing-leaked-documents-it-was-fair-game ShortFormBlog

    TechCrunch on publishing leaked documents: It was “fair game”…

    ……

  • http://www.webbyn.com/twitter%e2%80%99s-internal-strategy-laid-bare-to-be-%e2%80%9cthe-pulse-of-the-planet%e2%80%9d/ Twitter’s Internal Strategy Laid Bare: To Be “The Pulse Of The Planet” | Webbyn.com

    [...] confidential Twitter documents and screenshots landed in our inbox. We said we were going to post a handful of them only, and we’ve spent much of the last 36 hours talking directly to Twitter… [...]

  • John Dyer

    Cool. This argument worked out really well for Cheney, too. “It doesn’t matter hot we got the intelligence.” #torture!

  • http://www.zooped.com/2009/07/16/will-twitter-sue-techcrunch/ Zooped.com – Will Twitter Sue TechCrunch?

    [...] co-founder Michael Arrington said the blog disagrees with the notion the information was “stolen” and therefore should not be published. He argued that his site posts confidential information [...]

  • http://accountingunplugged.com Erin Lawlor

    Michael,

    There are laws against receiving stolen goods and stolen information is no different from stolen hardgoods. I am surprised that you have no fear of prosecution for knowingly receiving that information.

  • http://www.ckrinteractive.com Michelle

    On your end it is not entirely unethical to post the information obtained. It was the hacker who was entirely wrong in committing the act. It just feels wrong and I would hate to be in Twitter’s shoes. I mean, if it happened to one of us or your company I am sure we would want a lending hand and withhold the information. With this said I am glad that you are not publishing the more confidential materials.

  • KenEisman

    quote:”It’s not our fault that Google has a ridiculously easy way to get access to accounts via their password recovery question. It’s not our fault that Twitter stored all of these documents and sensitive information in the cloud and had easy-to-guess passwords and recovery questions.”

    You’re kidding right? Please tell me you’re kidding! That’s like the person fencing stolen goods saying: “It’s not my fault the homeowner had a cheap lock on his door and didn’t hide his valuables good enough.”

  • http://tradesecretnoncompete.com/2009/07/14/in-the-news%e2%80%a6/ In the News… « Trade Secret / Noncompete Blog

    [...] Risks and Ethics:  The Dissemination of Proprietary Information (new July 16) An interesting position on the ethics of spreading other people’s information: Our Reaction To Your Reactions To the Twitter Confidential Documents Post. [...]

  • http://www.caveofdistraction.com datter

    “I feel bad for Twitter…”

    No, you don’t.

    “… and I wish this had never happened.”

    No, you don’t.

  • http://mommyceo.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/twitter-vs-techcrunch-stolen-is-not-news-worthy-its-just-gossip/ Twitter VS. TechCrunch: Stolen is not news worthy – its just GOSSIP « Mommy CEO

    [...] from Twitter, a privately held COMMERCIAL company. Michael Arrington even has the gal to try and justify TechCrunch Many users say this is “stolen” information and therefore shouldn’t be published. We [...]

  • http://www.StreamlineFunnelSystem.com/?ID=16772 David Osborn

    You have acknowledged and agree you receive stolen information. You should be treated as such when a person comes into position of stolen goods eother given (such as yoru case) or bought. They commit a crime and are no better then the criminals who stole the goods in the first place. Business is a competive field and by publishing the information you damage Twitter and it’s business edge. I for one do not agree with you decisions, and any punblishing stolen information should be punished by law (hopefully one exists and if it doesn’t maybe we need one in order to protect us from the likes of you.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Catherine_Ann_Fitzpatrick/665146992 Catherine Ann Fitzpatrick

    I’d like a full explanation for why I am banned from posting critical comments here from my blogger’s name Prokofy Neva. Why are others allowed to post even very nasty stuff anonymously, but not me? I’d like to face my accusers, and I’d like a full listing and public examination of the posts that led to my banning on my blogger’s name. Since when does TechCrunch ban critics?!

  • jheising

    Is it just me or is there a much bigger story in this? This seems like an issue that also affects Google in a big way.

    Does this mean an end to cloud based doc management?

    I can think of one highly visible company who is rethinking its use at the moment…

  • http://www.attentionmax.com/blog/2009/07/stolen_documents_fair_game_in_reporting_the_news.php Stolen Documents Fair Game In Reporting The News? | AttentionMax

    [...] its recent decision to publish a selection of 310 stolen, confidential documents from Twitter, and then justify it, leaves me with a sour stomach. It makes me more uncomfortable when I see TechCrunch describe its [...]

  • http://www.closingbigger.net/2009/07/techcrunch-uses-image-without-attribution-in-ethics-blog-entry-irony/ Techcrunch Uses Image without attribution in Ethics Blog Entry Irony! | Sales Podcast and Social Media Training Blog by Shane Gibson – Canada – USA – South Africa

    [...] Now lets look at a screen cap of the following this Techcrunch Entry titled Our Reaction To Your Reactions To the Twitter Confidential Documents Post [...]

  • http://cranialsoup.blogspot.com app103

    I got the impression that if my next door neighbor was raped and Michael Arrington thought it was news worthy and would give him more page views, and the rapist had sent him photos of him torturing her, he’d publish them, but be kind enough not to give out her phone number.

    I am sorry, this isn’t the right thing to do if you have any sense of ethics.

    I could understand reporting on Twitter being hacked, when, who did it, how, and why. Maybe even publishing an interview with the hacker if possible, but I don’t agree with publishing the stolen Twitter documents, whole or in part.

    You further victimized a victim of a crime. And if you can’t understand why that is unethical, then nothing you publish is worth reading.

    Your feed has been removed from my reader and I have unfollowed you and TC on twitter.

    I want nothing more to do with you, your blog, or anything else related to you.

  • Jon Davis

    Longtime TC reader here and I’ve got to say I’m pretty disappointed to hear you’re going to publish.

    I understand about breaking stories but let’s face it — this is stolen, sensitive information.

    If similar info about TC had been taken and published, you’d be doing everything in your power to stop it.

    You can claim this is journalism and that you’re breaking news but the fact remains that you’re simply doing something unethical for pageviews / more ad money.

    Sad.

  • http://closingbigger.net Shane Gibson

    I think the irony here is that this a conversation about ethics in blogging etc. and the image used for the blog post is actually a screen shot of John C. Maxwell’s book cover used without attribution?

    See here: http://www.closingbigger.net/2009/07/techcrunch-uses-image-without-attribution-in-ethics-blog-entry-irony/

    Ethics 101?

  • http://linjamie.com/2009/07/15/why-michael-arrington-should-post-twitter-docs/ Jamie Lin – Digital Economist » Why Michael Arrington SHOULD Post Twitter Docs

    [...] going on around the Twitter confidential documents in Michael Arrington’s possession and whether or not TechCrunch should publish the [...]

  • http://pollenizer.com Mick Liubinskas

    Moral responsibilities are actually more like moral opportunities.

  • http://www.cmtan.com/?p=253 Twitter’s Internal Strategy Laid Bare: To Be “The Pulse Of The Planet” | www.cmtan.com

    [...] confidential Twitter documents and screenshots landed in our inbox. We said we were going to post a handful of them only, and we’ve spent much of the last 36 hours talking directly to Twitter about the right way to go [...]

  • http://lcsunshine.com/blog/?p=389 Twitter Hacked – Oh No, Mister Bill! – L&C Tech Talk

    [...] TechCrunch source #2 [...]

  • http://www.grenzpfosten.de/2009/07/15/am-tag-als-techcrunch-endgueltig-zum-massenmedium-wurde/ Am Tag als Techcrunch zum Massenmedium wurde | Grenzpfosten

    [...] Das ist schon mal eine größere Beschäftigung mit “Redaktionsrichtlinien”, als ich Sie aus meiner Jouralistenzeit kenne. Soweit so gut. Techcrunch versucht jetzt auf die Schnelle eigene Leitlinien zu entwickeln. [...]

  • http://iainmaclean.x.iabc.com/ Iain MacLean

    This is how the news business works every day, folks. This situation is not unusual. Reporters get information from a variety of sources, some of whom are entitled to the information, some of whom aren’t. Who they are, and how they came by it, isn’t the reporter’s concern.

    I used to be a reporter, and this is how it works. If you’re given information, then you have to decide what to do with it. Firstly, you considering whether the information should be withheld because it is personal (e.g. medical or employment records that are unrelated to the main story) or it’s in the public interest to withhold (e.g. national security). Then you look at whether it’s newsworthy. If it is, then you write a story about it. If it isn’t, then you don’t.

    Twitter is a high profile company, playing a high stakes game with other big organisations. What they do affect many people. That makes it news.

    I think Michael is being responsible in what he is choosing to publish, and talking to Twitter management before doing so is good journalism practise. I was never a “publish and be damned” or muckraking type of reporter and was pretty conservative in my approach, but if I was in his shoes, I’d probably go for it, too.

  • http://bawaal.com/blog/twitter-techcrunch-and-ethics Twitter, TechCrunch and Ethics!

    [...] Our Reaction To Your Reactions To the Twitter Confidential Documents Post [...]

  • G.O.

    Three sources? I’ve never heard of that rule; it’s too stringent.

  • G.O.

    What would BusinessWeek do in this situation?

  • http://mycodetree.com/2009/07/twitter-internal-strategy-laid-bare-to-be-the-pulse-of-the-planet/ Twitter Internal Strategy Laid Bare: To Be “The Pulse Of The Planet” | CodeTree

    [...] Twit­ter doc­u­ments and screen­shots landed in our inbox. We said we were going to post a hand­ful of them only, and we’ve spent much of the last 36 hours talk­ing directly to Twit­ter about the right way to [...]

  • Fun watching the chaos, not in alpabetical order edition

    Is there supposed to be retarded security breach at TechCrunch, is that what you ask?

    Use your fucking mind, child. This isn’t nuclear arms reduction.

  • Fun watching the chaos, not in alpabetical order edition

    March of the Angry TWITTERS!

    YIPPEEEEEEEEEE!

  • Fun watching the chaos, not in alpabetical order edition

    Why do ya carry a purse to be nicked, luv?

  • http://7son75.com/techcrunch-needed-a-publicity-stunt-514 TechCrunch Needed A Publicity Stunt | SocialSev

    [...] wishes of his readers. But he was not to be swayed from his decision. He had this to say in said post: It’s not our fault that Google has a ridiculously easy way to get access to accounts via their [...]

  • http://lcsunshine.com/blog/?p=582 Ask Twitter about document security in the cloud [Updated] – L&C Tech Talk

    [...] who run Twitter apparently believe that working on the Web is the way to go. Using services such as Google Docs, for example, lets you store your documents on third-party servers, which makes collaboration and [...]

  • http://jp.techcrunch.com/archives/20090716twitters-internal-strategy-laid-bare-to-be-the-pulse-of-the-planet/ Twitter秘密文書公開―「地球の鼓動を伝えるプラットフォームを目指す」

    [...] 火曜の夜、TechCruchに300を超すTwitter社の秘密文書がメールに添付されて送りつけられてきた。われわれはそのごく一部を公開すると予告した。ここ36時間、われわれは公開の範囲についてTwitterと話し合いを続けてきた。この件については数日後にまた詳しく報告したい。 [...]

  • http://sassypandaz.com/slouching-toward-a-coddled-and-toothless-blogosphere/ Sassy Pandaz » Blog Archive » Slouching Toward a Coddled and Toothless Blogosphere

    [...] distraught as anyone to see their dear friends at Twitter burned. TechCrunch founder Mike Arrington wrote: “I wish this had never [...]

  • Dave

    I agree with TechCrunch. The world is a better place because sometimes sensitive information got out. It sucks for Twitter, I’m sure they will deal with it and learn their lessons. I admire TechCrunch for having the courage to keep the spirit of journalism alive. I hardly think Twitter will go away because of this. It seems that when we as people, know there is a chance are secrets will be exposed, can act in more responsible ways. When we are sure we are never going to be caught, we will do more bad things. Agree or not, its my opinion and your entitled to yours and TechCrunch has a right to publish the info. The end.

  • http://pollenizer.com Mick Liubinskas

    I’ve personally been involved in a situation where a very large media company that most people would automatically place on a moral pedestal and they exercised very loose morals.

    It always comes down to people, it just so happens the people behind TechCrunch are a lot more visible/personal, whereas BusinessWeek can hide behind the corporation and PR/Legal dept.

  • http://iainmaclean.x.iabc.com/2009/07/18/should-journalists-write-stories-based-on-stolen-information/ Iain MacLean – candid thoughts on public relations » Should journalists write stories based on stolen information?

    [...] The TechCrunch editor, Michael Arlington, made a song and dance about it in his original post, told everyone he was going to publish some of it and invited a response from this readers. And, boy, did he get one. There are hundreds of comments on the post, most of them saying they thought he was being despicable to even consider publishing any stolen material (Our Reaction To Your Reactions To the Twitter Confidential Documents Post). [...]

  • http://www.defamer.com.au/2009/07/slouching-toward-a-coddled-and-toothless-blogosphere/ Slouching Toward A Coddled And Toothless Blogosphere | Defamer Australia

    [...] distraught as anyone to see their dear friends at Twitter burned. TechCrunch founder Mike Arrington wrote: “I wish this had never [...]

  • http://www.linkedin.com/in/sdodd steve dodd

    What you have done by posting this information is no different than “fencing” stolen merchandise of any kind. Using anything illegally obtained for personal gain is not right! Furthermore, it encourages more criminal activity (theft) and makes it “OK”. Your response should have been to turn the content and all evidence over to proper authorities for investigation and prosectution. Instead, you chose to use it for commercial gain. That is why what you have done is so very very wrong. So just remember, what goes around, eventually comes around.

    This is a classic example of why so many don’t trust the commercially motivated media. You have tarnished the reputation of our entire industry.

  • http://www.xupreme.com/slouching-toward-a-coddled-and-toothless-blogosphere-valleywag.php Blog Supremacy » Blog Archive » Slouching Toward a Coddled and Toothless Blogosphere [Valleywag]

    [...] distraught as anyone to see their dear friends at Twitter burned. TechCrunch founder Mike Arrington wrote: “I wish this had never [...]

  • http://cubiyanqui.wordpress.com/2009/07/19/can-facebook-kill-the-bird/ If Facebook Doesn’t Kill Twitter, Can It Survive a Leak? « cubiyanqui

    [...] to know about it. So he sent us all of the documents that he obtained, some 310 of them, and the story developed from [...]

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/19/the-anatomy-of-the-twitter-attack/ The Anatomy Of The Twitter Attack

    [...] to know about it. So he sent us all of the documents that he obtained, some 310 of them, and the story developed from [...]

  • http://fr.mkt-planet.com/web-news/doit-on-publier-certains-documents-confidentiels-concernant-twitter/ Doit-on publier certains documents confidentiels concernant Twitter? | MKT planet – News Web Marketing – Nouvelles Technologies

    [...] sur TechCrunch US ou le débat fait déjà rage;  Michael expliquant les raisons de son choix dans ce billet. Mais TechCrunch n’est pas seul, d’autres blogs ont déjà révélé une partie de ces [...]

  • http://nbtimes.it/sicurezza/3280/vicenda-twittergate-la-blogosfera-si-insospettisce.html Vicenda Twittergate, la blogosfera si insospettisce – The New Blog Times

    [...] avvalorare l’ipotesi ci sono le parole dello stesso Arrington: “Wow, c’è stata una notevole reazione al nostro post di [...]

  • http://uberblogged.com/periodismo/techcrunch-publica-documentos-privados-de-twitter/ TechCrunch publica documentos privados de Twitter | Uberblogged.com

    [...] de manifiesto acerca de por qué ellos consideran que ésta información debe ser publicada. La excusa, bastante bien elaborada por cierto, se basa en justificar que sólo están haciendo la labor [...]

  • Shweta

    These shouldnt be posted. Period. No matter what tech crunch says to make it sound ethical, it is not.

  • OOTheLibrarian

    Your reasoning skills know no peer.

  • http://stefanm.wordpress.com/2009/07/20/social-media-articles-july-06-july-19-2009-twitter-facebook-etc/ social media articles july 06 – july 19 2009, twitter, facebook, etc « Stefanm, my link collection

    [...] Techcrunch Reaction To Your Reactions To the Twitter Confidential Documents Post; [...]

  • http://eduardocollado.com/2009/07/20/techcrunch-y-el-hackeo-de-twitter/ Techcrunch, y el Hackeo de Twitter | Blog Eduardo Collado

    [...] el blog respondió que muchas noticias son filtraciones, y especialmente si alguien no quiere que salga a  la luz, el [...]

  • http://www.webguild.org/2009/07/should-google-apps-offer-rsa-securid.php Should Google Apps Offer RSA SecurID?

    [...] [Link] [...]

  • http://blog.benjaminr.info/2009/07/twitter%e2%80%99s-internal-strategy-laid-bare-to-be-%e2%80%9cthe-pulse-of-the-planet%e2%80%9d/ blog.benjaminr.info :: Socialmedia Twitter :: Twitter’s Internal Strategy Laid Bare

    [...] confidential Twitter documents and screenshots landed in our inbox. We said we were going to post a handful of them only, and we’ve spent much of the last 36 hours talking directly to Twitter about the right way to go [...]

  • http://www.sramanamitra.com/2009/07/21/deal-radar-2009-confidela/ Deal Radar 2009: Confidela | Sramana Mitra on Strategy

    [...] July 21, 2009 | No comments As readers descended on TechCrunch last week, weighing in on the blog’s decision to publish confidential Twitter documents it [...]

  • http://guidewiregroup.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/the-vortex-back-from-the-dead/ The Vortex: Back from the Dead « The Guidewire

    [...] big kerfuffle of the past two weeks has been King Arrington vs Twitter. Citing the entire history of the news industry as precedent, he decided that publishing confidential [...]

  • http://enoggeggbert.com/2009/07/twitter-got-hacked-%e2%80%93-kimono-opened-by-techcrunch/ Twitter Got Hacked – Kimono Opened by TechCrunch |

    [...] TechCrunch responded to the outcry: [...]

  • J Soho

    This is lame. Last time I’ve visited techcrunch.. just as bad as valleywag. Moving along, goodbye.

  • http://www.cantdecidewhichonetolist.net evilCozPoetry

    F facebook, F myspace, and most of all, F twitter. And just to show that I’m not discriminatory with the angst of all my antisocial social networking F’s, FTW and everyone in it. (Except their Mothers, unless their Mothers are MILF’s) Yes that’s right, F You!

    Hey, guess what?
    Boy have I’ve got a social network for you…
    In my pants!
    Oh wait a minute, that’s a social disease.
    Never mind.

    TechCrunch drools! (drools is my own slobbering idiom for rules)

    Was that too many characters for a twit? (Or tweet or whatever the F they call it)

  • http://tecnoblog.net/news/2009/twitter-chamem-a-seguranca.htm Twitter: “Chamem a segurança” | Segurança

    [...] oficiais do Twitter recebidos por e-mail. Michael Arrington, principal responsável pelo site, chegou a escrever que quem discordasse da publicação dos documentos também discordaria “de toda a história da [...]

  • http://theinternetmarketingspot.com/?p=210 Twitter Security Hypocrisy | The Internet Marketing Spot

    [...] opinion, Techcrunch shouldn’t publish what they found in Twitter’s undie drawer… but only with the provision that they remove the hypocritical viral tell-a-friend, and [...]

  • http://theinternetmarketingspot.com/?p=210 Twitter Security Hypocrisy | The Internet Marketing Spot

    [...] opinion, Techcrunch shouldn’t publish what they found in Twitter’s undie drawer… but only with the provision that they remove the hypocritical viral tell-a-friend, and [...]

  • http://twtapps.com/blog/2009/08/11/whats-a-branded-twtpoll/ What’s a branded Twtpoll? « twtapps – Simple twitter apps

    [...] poll was retweeted a few times and mentioned in this article onTechCrunch. As you can see, we got 1234 votes before the poll [...]

  • http://www.billige-mobiler.net billige mobiler

    very nice blog.. I like the design, its cool:-)

  • http://www.techwall.org/internet/twitter-and-hacker-croll-problems/ Twitter and “Hacker Croll” problems – Internet

    [...] Croll” problems The hacker eventually sent the documents to tech blog TechCrunch, which decided to post some but not all of them. They are online here, here and here. Soon, a debate raged about whether or not [...]

  • http://ruthvilar.com/2009/09/15/techcrunch-y-el-hackeo-de-twitter/ Techcrunch, y el Hackeo de Twitter | Blog Ruth Vilar

    [...] el blog respondió que muchas noticias son filtraciones, y especialmente si alguien no quiere que salga a  la luz, el [...]

  • http://www.developmentcorporate.com/2009/09/17/did-meetup-beat-facebook-to-profitability/ DevelopmentCorporate » Blog Archive » Did Meetup Beat Facebook to Profitability?

    [...] In the past two days there have been about 2,200 blogs and articles about Facebook achieving cash flow break even and Meetup achieving profitability.  The Facebook revelation came from a blog post by Mark Zuckerberg and the Meetup news came from a set of shareholder documents leaked to the team at TechCrunch.  Since 1,300 other people have already commented on the Facebook news, I thought I would spend a little time dissecting the Meetup numbers.  I won’t comment on the ethics of whoever leaked the documents or why TechCrunch seems to be the destination of choice for confidential information from technology startups (remember the infamous leaked Twitter documents?) [...]

  • http://www.sexysocialmedia.com/twitter_digg_facebook_bad_week/ A Bad Week for Social Media Giants

    [...] In all, more than 300 confidential company documents had been stolen and disseminated. That dissemination, chiefly the transfer of documents to TechCrunch, has caused quite a stir on its own. [...]

  • http://thebezaleelent.info/the-anatomy-of-the-twitter-attack.htm/ The Anatomy Of The Twitter Attack | the Bezaleel

    [...] to know about it. So he sent us all of the documents that he obtained, some 310 of them, and the story developed from [...]

  • http://oddlytogether.com/2009/07/process-journalism-and-original-reporting/ Process Journalism and Original Reporting

    [...] TechCrunch reacts to readers and Critics, Michael Arrington, July 15 [...]

  • http://www.blogherald.com/2009/10/17/if-youre-arrington-the-rules-do-not-apply-to-you/ If You’re Arrington The Rules Do Not Apply to You | The Blog Herald

    [...] journalistic methods, when the latter is the better strategy to defend his case as we learned from Twittergate earlier this [...]

  • http://frmclub.net FrmClub

    Michael wouldn’t do it, he will trade with twitter to get more exclusive news later. now he is bluffing.

  • http://h0kersparadisebysuchitaher.blog.co.in/2010/01/12/the-anatomy-of-the-twitter-attack-1/ The Anatomy Of The Twitter Attack-1 | Hackers-Paradise By Suchit

    [...] to know about it. So he sent us all of the documents that he obtained, some 310 of them, and the story developed from [...]

  • http://mrjamie.cc/2009/07/16/twitter-stolen-documents-techcrunch/ 新聞自由與新聞道德:Twitter 的機密文件駭客事件 (7/16 更新) » Mr. Jamie 看網路與創投

    [...] 迫不得已只好在今早再度發文解釋其身為媒體擁有的報導權及自由,並拿其他平面 (華爾街日報) 及網路 [...]

  • http://jp.techcrunch.com/archives/20100426how-i-would-have-handled-the-stolen-iphone-story/ 盗まれたiPhone事件、私ならこう対応した

    [...] もちろんTwitterは、われわれが一切の文書を公開しないよう試みたが、彼らは道徳的、倫理的圧力をかけてきたが法的圧力はかけなかった。結局両者は最後まで何が倫理的に正しい行動であるかについて完全な合意に至ることはなかった ― これに関する私の考えはここに書いた。 [...]

  • I got a name

    Why can I drag through this and have it revert to the old platform, why does it create an error message about stack overflow equalling 16 and who was screwed up my name?

    I should yell rape in a crowded fire or something.

  • http://www.kidbludo.com hard rock

    Important point that you must be careful what you put out over the internet because everything is free-reign.

  • http://www.murano-glass-chandeliers.com murano chandelier

    oh yeah welcome to the awesomeness of the social networking

  • http://www.nextlevel-marketing.dk Kim

    Do you have any news on the confidential twitter documents?

  • http://www.webcamwithmicrophone.org Microphone

    can’t agree more

  • http://www.holidayworkinginsurance.com John

    +1

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