Andreessen’s Advice To Old Media: “Burn The Boats”
Erick Schonfeld
Mar 6, 2010

Legend has it that when Cortes landed in Mexico in the 1500s, he ordered his men to burn the ships that had brought them there to remove the possibility of doing anything other than going forward into the unknown. Marc Andreessen has the same advice for old media companies: “Burn the boats.”

Yesterday, Andreessen was in New York City and we met up. We got to talking about how media companies are handling the digital disruption of the Internet when he brought up the Cortes analogy. In particular, he was talking about print media such as newspapers and magazines, and his longstanding recommendation that they should shut down their print editions and embrace the Web wholeheartedly. “You gotta burn the boats,” he told me, “you gotta commit.” His point is that if traditional media companies don’t burn their own boats, somebody else will.

Andreessen once famously put the New York Times on deathwatch for its stubborn insistence on trying to save and prolong its legacy print business. With all the recent excitement in media quarters recently over Apple’s upcoming iPad and other tablet computers, and their potential to create a market for paid digital versions and subscriptions of newspapers and magazines, I wondered if Andreessen still felt the same way. Does he think the iPad will change anything?

Andreessen asked me if TechCrunch is working on an iPad app or planning on putting up a paywall. I gave him a blank stare. He laughed and noted that none of the newer Web publications (he’s an investor in the Business Insider) are either. “”All the new companies are not spending a nanosecond on the iPad or thinking of ways to charge for content. The older companies, that is all they are thinking about.”

But people pay for apps. Wouldn’t he pay for a beautiful touchscreen version of a magazine? Maybe, if it were something genuinely new that blew him away. It would have to be more than an article with video and graphics though. (I agree, otherwise it’s no better than a CD-ROM).

Oh, and he points out, that the iPad will have a “fantastic browser.” No matter how many iPads the Apple sells, the Web will always be the bigger market. “There are 2 billion people on the Web,” he says. “The iPad will be a huge success if it sells 5 million units.”

Despite trying time and again, Andreessen’s observation is that media companies have no aptitude for technology, nor do they really understand what technology companies do. The one thing technology companies do really well is deal with constant disruption. “Microsoft is going through this right now,” he points out, “Ballmer is not complaining about it.” He’s tackling it head on. So did Intel when Andy Grove gutted it to shift from memory chips to microprocessors. So does every technology company CEO. It is ingrained in the industry Andreessen comes from, so it is just obvious to him: “You are cruising along, and then technology changes. You have to adapt.” Media companies need to learn that lesson fast. To the extent that their products are now delivered and consumed as digital bits, they too are becoming technology companies.

Beyond the iPad, he believes that all the talk once again from big media companies about erecting paywalls or somehow charging for news, articles and video online is shortsighted at best. He comes back to the simple fact that the open Web is where the users are. Talking about paywalls and paid apps is like saying, “We know where the market is and we are not going to go there.” Print newspapers and magazines will never get there, he argues, until they burn the boats and shut down their print operations. Yes, there are still a lot of people and money in those boats—billions of dollars in revenue in some cases. “At risk is 80% of revenues and headcount,” Andreessen acknowledges, “but shift happens.” You’d have to be crazy to burn the boats. Crazy like Cortes.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=720555518 Glenn Kelman

    Hi Erick, nice article. You may want to correct the link to Andreessen’s deathwatch; the href tag appears as text in the post itself.

  • igniman

    it’s sad that there are no micropayment solutions for websites and blogs. the micropayment model works. it worked for song downloads, and it works for online games, but it needs to be centralized and unified in a way that will make maintaining a micropayment balance and paying to read an article seamless and effortless for the reader [facebook connect + credits maybe?].

    they just need to get over the subscription model. There’s so much stuff on the web, it’s just not feasible to maintain monthly subscriptions to a gazillion different magazines to read what you wantk, when you want it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=676495206 Charles Borwick

    There are some notable exceptions. For example, papers like The Stranger (www.thestranger.com) in Seattle have always been free and they are perhaps one of the most innovative media organizations in the digital world. They get 2 million uniques at their website monthly and rather than looking for a silver bullet to deal with the lag in the standard advertising model, they have brought out the Gatling gun:

    They have numerous innovative ventures with different models (lovelab, strangermart, ticketing for local events etc.). They also have a tight and loyal community that are regular contributors to SLOG (their blog) and they have Questionland (http://questionland.thestranger.com) where the community can ask and answer questions about Seattle.

    Maybe being free to being with was the key to their ongoing success. Paywalls have never crossed their mind. They are a good model for the old media, if you want to be really great you should be digital while still having a paper edition – and it’s free!

  • http://www.webmaster-source.com redwall_hp

    That’s what Flattr (flattr.com) is trying to do. I like their proposed implementation. I’m hoping it will take off.

  • http://vergenewmedia.com Jim Long

    By and large, I don’t think technology companies understand what media do, in particular when it comes to journalism. A great many of this forward-thinking technology pundits put all of their faith in the app empowered crowd or the cloud or whatever. Erick you above all people understand that it it is very human feet-on-the-street that fills columns. I’ve seen you in action.

    I was at a Google journalism event in DC last week where James Fallows of the Atlantic Monthly aptly stated “information wants to be freed, but people want to be paid”. Burn the ships? Sure, but i wouldn’t burn them all at once. Those ships are still providing revenue in many cases.

  • http://vergenewmedia.com Jim Long

    This time in English

    By and large, I don’t think technology companies understand what media do, in particular when it comes to journalism. A great many of these forward-thinking technology pundits put all of their faith in the app empowered crowd or the cloud or whatever. Erick you above all people understand that it it is very human, feet-on-the-street newsgathering that fills columns. I’ve seen you in action.

    I was at a Google journalism event in DC last week where James Fallows of the Atlantic Monthly aptly stated “information wants to be freed, but people want to be paid”. Burn the ships? Sure, but i wouldn’t burn them all at once. Those ships are still providing revenue in many cases.

  • Andrew Kaufman

    What image is this?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=523420585 Solal Fitoussi

    So what? Ads are suppose to fund the entire model?
    I really how this could happen…

  • Thomas

    I agree. It seems that Andreessen, if he ever was in touch with reality, has totally lost it now, and that there is nothing beyond the Valley.

    He actually stated on Charlie Rose that the New York Times should be shut down, immediately.
    He ignores the fact that millions and millions of people still enjoy reading newspapers, the feel of holding them, etc. There are also hundreds of local papers in small towns that are part of daily life and that, although some are failing, they would not go away.
    It is sad that he continues to express his screwy opinions. He has become another one of the clueless Valley millionaires incapable of seeing reality up and close. But then again, he is filthy rich and doesn’t need reality…

  • Mitch Nauffts

    The Cortes analogy is flawed. Cortes did not burn his ships upon arrival in what is now Mexico; he held on to them as long as he could (four months) and then only burned them as a last resort when a couple of his captains (Sulzberger? Redstone? allied with his chief rival (Murdoch?) threatened to use them to return to Cuba, recruit an anti-Cortes army, and come back to Mexico to put the enterprise to an end. It was a do-or-be-hung choice — clearly not the situation that print publishers find themselves in in 2010. Yes, great newspapers like the Times have taken a hit, but I’d be willing to bet they’ll be around, in their print form, a lot longer than the Kindle is. And don’t forget, Cortes rebuilt his ships after the Aztecs chased him out of Tenochtitlan the first time, and those ships were critical — along with 10,000 Tlaxcalan warriors — in securing his supply lines and final victory over the Aztecs.

  • Etrigan

    “Maybe being free to being with was the key to their ongoing success”

    Do they make a profit? Using page views and subscribers as a measure of ‘success’ is so dotcom bust. Without positive cashflow, your business is a dead man walking. Anybody can get a million users by giving something away for free. Turning a profit however, that’s what real businesses do when they grow up.

  • toddq

    wasn’t Andreessen the idiot behind the collapse of Netscape?
    Sure MSFT cheated but to build a company that depends soley on one product is stupid.

  • Andrea Favale

    I think what Andressen is saying is that old media companies are struggling to embrace the change and they need to do something radical and buy into it or they are toast.
    The strategy needs to be 1) let’s figure out how to make money leveraging the new technology and changing social habits and 2) let’s gradually shed all legacy costs and not 3) let’s see try and protect our century old business models for as long as we can.
    Many companies are doing 3 and are shifting to 1 and 2 too slowly even if it’s at least 5 years since we all know how this is going to turn out.
    It is true that my father still buys newspapers and magazines, but I stopped buying them about a year ago and my younger sibling have never bought one as they consume everything via the web (not apps by the way).

  • http://www.cdnpal.com Christopher

    The French Quebecians had also burned their boats in an effort to scare General James Wolfe, when Canada belonged to France.

    Do you know what happened?

    Wolfe ignored the boat burning, then DID NOT burn his boats and instead used them to sail up to the Abraham plains and proceeded to devastate the Frenchmans and subjugate them to the British crown which they still are to this day.

    My words to old media:
    The king does not have new clothes, he is simply naked. Do not listen to the words of your competitors like Rosenblatt. He wants you gone so he can dominate.

    Leverage what you have!!! Energy is neither created nor destroyed, it is merely transformed.

    Damn, I should be a consultant! LOLZ!

  • http://www.cdnpal.com Christopher

    “On June 21, the masts of 3 three British vessels could plainly be seen from the French positions at Québec. One of the French fireships was consumed in a vain attempt to burn them, and several firerafts and a sort of infernal machine were tried with no better success”

    http://bit.ly/9yQx45

    Burning what you have rarely, if never works, except to please those who dislike you.

  • Matthew

    I agree with him. Also, please give up on the whole “good journalism is worth money”. NOT IT’S NOT. It doesn’t matter that you think that’s the way it “should” be. Please start living in reality. Good journalism doesn’t win over bad journalism. The winner is the party that can differentiate themselves from the crowd in a way that will earn eyeballs. The media has failed to do this. I believe it’s because they stubbornly hold on to the “good journalism should win” way of thinking. Please face reality.

  • http://MichaelADeBose.Collected.Info Michael A. De Bose

    This is my fear for Apple. When companies get big and respectably successful, and that share price means successful compared to the $13 it was a few years ago, complacency becomes a problem. Suddenly the lawsuits are flying more than the new ideas. Sure the iPad may be a hit, but new idea it’s not. Mattel is another good example of an established business trying to tell the market what the market should want. The Bratz doll while not to my taste and definitely not Mattel’s liking is clearly what the market wants. How did they respond, just like Microsoft. Put it on the shelf and pray the market will forget the product it actually wants. The newspapers just like the music and movie industries and increasingly Apple are trying to force feed the consumer the idea of what the consumer should want and how they should want to consume it.

    Pure innovation is an offensive posture and any business should be able to recognize that ip defense is a defensive posture. Add up all your business activities and press and if you’re spending more time in defense, your forward momentum is clearly shifting toward neutral.

    “If It Ain’t Broke, Why Fix It” is too much of our corporate mindset. Before you know it, everything “GETS OLD” comes ambling up to put a nail in that coffin.

  • igniman

    Sorry to break this to you, some of us actually like balanced, quality journalism and are willing to pay for it instead of the reading free SEO-ed blogs that keep babbling over the tweets of the day without doing even an hour’s work of investigative work, let alone thinking.

  • Ted Polette

    i think he’s talkin directly to guys like you, burn the fucking boats now!

  • Ted Polette

    just burn the boats, ok tuffguy?

  • http://www.tomstechblog.com Tom

    Has it ever occurred to you that good journalism might be a way to “differentiate themselves from the crowd in a way that will earn eyeballs”

    For example, though they don’t call themselves journalists I subscribe to a company called Stratfor (they’re a “private intelligence firm”). I do so because when they say things they provide the statistics that they base those statements on so I can verify their conclusions for myself.

    Last I heard (last year) they had 2 million uniques and who knows how many paying subscribers (at $349 a month).

  • Cog

    Seems to me that tech companies haven’t exactly figured out how to make general journalism pay, either. It’s a bit silly for Techcruch, with its position in the teensy field of insider-tech stories, to swagger forth about solving problems and — har har, ‘burning boats’ –without offering even the slightest hint of where to go from here.

    Or, for that matter, a firm grasp of history and metaphor: Do you mind pointing us toward the City of Gold, Erick, before we strike our matches?

  • Clark

    Well said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=676495206 Charles Borwick

    They are profitable and very successful. They pre-date the dot.com but and were never part of it. Did you even check it out?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=676495206 Charles Borwick

    They are a private company and don’t report their earnings, so the only metric available to me is their uniques. I do however know that they are doing very well, unlike most newspapers. If you have a look, you’ll see why. They are outspoken, creative, cater to a specific community and foster it. Their style of journalism is what the best blogs tried to bring to media, but they did it long before.

  • Jim Beam

    The problem with the article is that no one gives a f*ck about what Andreessen has to say any more.

  • http://www.breadmarket.co.uk mark

    I don’t agree that they should burn the boats right now, I’d recommend they down-size with a view to burning them eventually in 10 years time.

  • turn_self_off

    big corp wont touch that with even a hot iron, its forever tainted by piratebay.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnZKIk1Krp8 Danny ”Snailpaper” Bloom

    M.E. Sprengelmeyer, the noted eccentric publisher/editor/newspaepr owner in the western part of the USA, and a very good one at that, the subject of a recent [late 2009] NYTimes profile by Ricard Pena-Perez, told me recently:
    “If someone ever calls the print newspaper product that I produce a “snailpaper,” I will slime them.”

  • http://vidli.com/NB20100306TC Nathaniel Brown, CEO & Co-Founder, Vidli

    What a true statement indeed. The media companies, such as NY Times are shifting. But what about the even bigger media company? The Hollywood business itself. They have long been the sole bearers of distribution for DVD’s and Theatrical releases. Why not let the people decide what should be available to buy? TV Pilots would get adoption not on a someone at NBC or Showtime deciding it, but rather the people themselves demanding more by paying for the first show and it getting enough funding for the second, and so on.

    Check out http://vidli.com/NB20100306TC for more info. Or reach out to me with the contact details below by phone or email. I’d be happy to discuss.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnZKIk1Krp8 Danny ”Snailpaper” Bloom

    Erik, on TeleRead founder David Rothman’s ”The Solomon Scandals” blog, he links to a love song to printed newspapers by Taiwan-based blogger/journalist Danny Bloom, titled“I Just Can’t Live (Without My Daily Snailpaper)”, which Carl Bernstein listened to and said he loved it. Chris Meadows at Teleread says ”it’s a remarkable song, full of nostalgia about various newspapers and personalities associated with them. It definitely grows on you over its 6-minute length.”

    But he adds, and this is cool, too, because we are all in this together, “But at the other end of the spectrum is the TechCrunch piece in which Eric Schonenfield talks about a recent conversation with Netscape-founder Marc Andreesen [about the need to kill off print newspapers sooner than later]. If that’s true, then sooner or later Danny Bloom and those like him will have to get used to doing without their daily ‘snailpaper’.”

    Erick, give the song a listen here: your reax?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnZKIk1Krp8

    Mr Bernstein, you remember him, the old Watergate guy, who is in the song, told me yesterday by email: “Your newspaper love song is delightful, the message is right, and your voice is on target…”

    Let’s have fun as the ships go down!

  • matzahboy

    Why should newspapers stop printing? There is a very large audience that buys newspapers even though they can find them online. Do you know why? Because many people like to read a paper newspaper. You don’t browse the internet when you’re eating breakfast. But you read a newspaper.

  • Jordy Kaufman

    So much leakage for the small guy to eat up without overheads, I just love it. It’s like the TV networks, they just make money on ads, as does Google, get used to it. Paywalls won’t work. Good luck with that freemium thing as well.

  • Steve

    Old Media does not and will not be burning their boats. The “Infotainment Industrial Complex” is poised to take New Media out to the woodshed and club them into the ground with ACTA in the various national legislatures.

    What’s been driving the New Media Revolution is the zero delivery cost. New Media costs nothing to deliver, copy, transmit, re-copy, re-mix and re-transmit whereas Old Media

    Enter ACTA. A noble-sounding treaty on copyright whose purpose is less about protecting intellectual property and more about forcing the burden of IP protection and verification on everybody *BUT* the Copyright Industry. Rupert Murdoch would LOVE to see ACTA passed because this sort of burden/cost transfer means that New Media would actually be forced into the same transfer/overhead costs that currently plagues Old Media.

    Playing Field levelled, game over. Thank you for playing and oh, by the way, thanks for building all this wonderfuly technology and distribution network that will give us control like never before.

    If you are a online content provider/producer of any size and you don’t have lobbyists working for you(and against) at the national legislative level, you are just asking to get whacked in the law.

  • Eric

    A realtime or customizable magazine or newspaper can bring added value but if old media is thinking of running monthly (magazine) or daily (newspaper) releases on new formats they are kidding themselves.

    As a young consumer I have paid for a couple dozen magazine subscriptions over the years, way more than any money I’ve put into apps. My price is about $10 a year. The biggest problem old media faces is content freshness, and the second is justifying their value vs all the free sources available.

  • Alex

    Eric, you really don’t know that the idiom comes from the ancient Greek legend because you are such a dropout or you are just pretending?

    I’m just curious…

  • papafox

    The term “burning your boats” comes from the Roman Emperor Julian (331-363 AD). Julian came as close as any Roman general ever came to conquering the Parthian empire.

    To settle a strategic debate, Julian ordered the boats being used cross the Tigris River to be burnt – where it trapped between the Persians and the river and subsequently perished.

    The decision to burn the boats took his campaign from massive success to defeat and destruction.

  • Robert, manhattan

    haven’t you noticed the product is not worth paying for? web or print.

    oh, the product will be TECHNOLOGY……..what about NEWS.

  • Matthew Cole

    I agree that this is a good example for old media, but in reference to the article I think it’s much easier since they had much smaller (if any) boats to burn. It’s easy to be innovative when you have little to lose.

  • Fact Checker

    Intel definitely did NOT “shift from memory chips to microprocessors”. The microprocessor has been Intel’s bread and butter from the start. They got into memory chips later and got out.

  • Law Firm Freemium Model

    Law firms should adopt a Freemium model:

    Clients can have all the paper they want for free. The client charged only when an attorney actually puts words on the paper.

  • http://matchesmalone.wordpress.com Matches Malone

    There will always be a need for print editions. Maybe not in the volume we have now, but to maintain the historical record….

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  • vincent bradley

    A Google journalism event is an oxymoron. Google is a pure advertising company. It has never had any interest in building a journalism function to fill the space inbetween its advertisements. It fills that space with content.

    Obviously Google’s model is more profitable but whether content or journalism is better for society time will tell.

    Eric and Marc have money in technology companies and write as PRs for their industry.

  • PSS

    Honestly, how often do you come across content on the web that you would actually pay for? There’s your bottom line.

  • Jesus Manson

    @ Mitch Nauffts
    Thanks for pointing that out. And let’s not forget that SMALLPOX won the battles that the Spaniards never had to fight for themselves! It took the Spaniards 2 YEARS to defeat the Aztecs, even with cannons, thousands of Indian allies, and horses.

  • Jesus Manson

    Mark Andreessen is the Jerry Yang of the 1990′s.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=839562444 Paul Baldovin

    I looked at this pay magazine http://www.zinio.com for iPhone and iPad.

    Old Media may think they have a shiny new toy to sell subscriptions but I think Andreessen’s advice spoke to why zinio and others will fail.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=839562444 Paul Baldovin

    ..great comment and thanks for pointing that out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=839562444 Paul Baldovin

    Is that why 760 people have RT this article?

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  • dasein

    Traditional media does’t understand new media.

    New media does’t understand traditional media.

    Until they understand one another, there is no resolution.

  • Mark

    Old media has been battling with new media for almost 20 years. Netscape, when subjected to almost identical competitive pressure, barely lasted four.

    So I find it extraordinary that the poster boy for facing the challenge of a ubiquitous, freely distributed competitor – and failing spectacularly – thinks he might now be taken seriously by those who, unlike him, have actually managed to survive thus far.

    As a customer of Netscape who sold tens of thousands of dollars worth of product for them and never once received an invoice, I have to say that his attitude of burning billions of dollars worth of income and advocating the loss of thousands of jobs, whilst utterly insane as a business plan, is not at all surprising.

  • a publisher

    What’s amazing (but not surprising) is that telecom companies didn’t jump on this, they are the ones who could put up a micro-payment solution.

    It actually happened once and was a huge success, the french Minitel terminal (a dumb terminal that France telecom gave away in the 80′s) they charged by the minute for text-only service with 2 bit graphics and made billions. The secret formula: since they just added the charges to your phone bill it was a completely painless process for the end user (except on the wallet, it wasn’t cheap).

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  • http://www.pipotheclown.nl Henk Knullertbeen

    Honestly I don’t think you could burn any ships even if you tried. Just look at the revival of old media like vinyl records and yes, even VHS tapes are becoming cool again. The iPad still has to prove itself and after reading a couple of e-zines and e-books, people might quickly become nostalgic for their old-fashioned, physical media.
    Also, Apple’s strategy of making you pay for every pixel you download might collapse upon itself. In short: I wouldn’t burn any ships yet!

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    When did the Silicon Valley become so ideological about the media ? Check out http://oldmediablog.wordpress.com/ideology-2-0-when-mao-meets-the-silicon-valley/

  • orbital

    so does this apply to RIAA / MPAA backed companies who died a decade or longer ago but are walking around like zombies?

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  • Bryan Moffett

    While pay walls may be part of the answer (ie., don’t give it ALL away for free online), the iPad will provide new revenue if done right.

    For media companies: make a great product that is tailored to how people use the device and delivers value. Give it away for free supported by ads, then allow upsells. Tier 1 monthly sub turns off ads for a buck or two. Tier 2 adds in full archives for a few more. And for the top Tier, maybe $4.99 a month, gives you access to multimedia and other bells and whistles.

    Most people won’t pay for those tiers, but your heavy users will. And with the right ad models (CPMs for some iPhone ad units are $25-35 or higher), you’re no longer trading dollars for dimes.

  • http://www.blogmarketingmix.com Trish Jones

    Maybe I’m missing the point since I’m not much into journalism but, I’m a real techie and spend a lot of time on my PC. That said, if I read, I want a book, newspaper, magazine. I want to underline, make notes, tear out etc. It all comes down to convenience. I still have a CD player in my car though MP3 because I can’t be bothered to load my music onto a hard disk and mess about with technology when I want to change it. Just put the CD in press play!

    If real technology is going to work really well and available to all, it must look something like the TV, with remote control and no need to mess around with apps, iPads or other gadgets. In my view, that is the only way the majority will use it.

  • Vic79

    Duh! Gotta get the women children and elderly out of the boats first!!!

  • Harper

    It’s funny listening to tech blogs comment on the business models of companies that have to keep a bureau in every major city in the world open. Tech blogs are so full of speculation and unvalidated sources it’s like listening to playground rumor sometimes.

    I for one am perfectly willing to pay for good journalism as long as i can get it in a great form factor and I the payment method is painless.

    Both the Kindle store and the Apple App Store are proof that people ARE in fact willing to pay for things as long as they’re easy to get and guaranteed to just work.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=673205324 Chris Duffy

    In hindsight, I wonder if Andreessen feels like they cheated.

    It has to be the irony of ironies that MSFT giving away IE was one of final legal nails in the coffin for them to be convicted as a monopolist, and forever eschewed as *the* evil empire, yet NOW “giving it away” is not only supposed to be everyones “business model” – believed nearly to a degree of religious faith.

    Andreessen may have been a great technologist, and his work on browsers played a tremendous role in the evolution of all of this stuff, but his track record in successful, profitable business is much less noteworthy.

    As other commenters pointed out, his Cortez analogies is factually flawed, and therefore really doesn’t make any sense in the context of still profitable print-media venture.

    This is more of a “world according to me” thing, than sound business advice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=673205324 Chris Duffy

    760 people have RT’d this article as a way of saying,

    “Look at me. I read Techcrunch and am cutting edge. I’m informed. Please respect me. Please.”

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  • patricia

    He’s completely wrong about why subscription content exists.

    The only people that believe the internet was created to be open are the internet people. It was NOT designed for that. It’s an infrastructure for communications and information distribution. It has everything to do with enabling people in an emergency and nothing to do with “Freedom.”

    Subscription content exists by USER DEMAND for it. People could watch NFL football for nothing, but they pay $$$ to have ACCESS to it.

    The internet combines multiple legacy industries into a single new platform — internet biz is has been terrible at content, just as media biz has been terrible at the internet.

    Otherwise, he’s right but that’s kind of a given.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=676495206 Charles Borwick

    I’d have to disagree with that. Like any other paper they had everything to lose. Perhaps more so because they were and are a profitable organization and fixture in the Seattle media scene. They have a dedicated readership which makes the risks all the greater. Meanwhile, they have maintained the cultural contributions one would hope to get from a paper: they have kept their arts sections while others have dropped them.

    Meanwhile they have less money to develop new technologies like the NYT and have spent their time using technology to benefit their audience and their bottom line.

    If anything I’d say it’s harder to lose a business that is your lifeblood and that you have built from nothing than it is to lose a shareholder owned corporation built by others.

  • http://raytrygstad.com Ray Trygstad

    Not really anything to do with this posting, but the painting shown with this article is “Burning of the Frigate Philadelphia in the Harbor of Tripoli, February 16, 1804″ by noted maritime artist Edward Moran. Painted in 1897, it depicts USS Philadelphia, previously captured by the Tripolitans, ablaze after she was boarded and set afire by a party from the ketch Intrepid led by Lieutenant Stephen Decatur. It is in the collection of the U.S. Naval Academy Museum and is probably among my five favorite paintings.

  • http://www.gablepr.com Tom Gable

    While media owners advance into the digital age with new means of distribution and revenue models, traditional print media will endure because of attributes and benefits readers enjoy. It’s easy to scan through a daily newspaper and get a quick feel for the most important news of the day. You see stories placed and sized by relative importance. Beyond the major stories, there is discovery in scanning through a paper — finding short news stories and features you surely would have missed in simply scanning top online headlines on a news site with links. I’ll find stories in quick scans of newspapers and magazines (business, news, finance, science, energy, economy) that are interesting and important, but can be missed online because they haven’t made the top level links. I catch some with RSS feeds, breaking news alerts via phone from different news media, Tweet alerts and other tools, but not all. When I find a printed story with relevance to our clients (I’m a former journalist, now in PR), I get the electronic version and send via email so we have a digital copy. I’ll have made notes on the printed copy for use as a reference in writing the cover email.

    From a personal standpoint, I like the way daily and weekly newspapers cover the local scene, making me aware of people, activities, attractions, events and news I probably would have missed online. Bottom line: we need multiple channels (including some yet to be developed) to keep informed and continuously entertained and enlightened.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1552037608 Daniel Travolto

    i think a lot of people died in south america then :-D

  • http://secondthoughts.typepad.com Prokofy Neva

    Another technocommunist manifesto, with the usual brutal Bolshevist call for destruction, even terror, and “expropriation of the expropriators”.

    In the real world outside the magic circle of software production and Google and Silicon Valley, however, old and new technologies exist side by side and always have. People still put stickies on their computer instead of using the Google To-Do List that could scrape their privacy even more. People still read old books that aren’t on Kindle. People still write in paper notebooks.

    In the last century, the smart engineers sold a lamp that had globes turned upward for the old gas wicks, and globes turned downward for the new electric bulbs because people used both, imagine that! they didn’t write editorials urging people to burn all their gas lamps; they adopte to people instea of visa versa. People used both out of habit but also due to cost, and for the simple reason that maybe electricity turned off in their state at midnight. In fact we are in exactly that same situation with the technologies of today.

    Not everyone has an i-phone, which is what you imagine leapfrogging over Kindles or i-pads. Not everyone *wants* everything to be digitalized. I still get the New York Times paper edition delivered on weekends because I can’t lie down on the couch with a computer desktop, and I’m not going to shell out for Kindles. I can clip something and hand it to someone because we don’t do *everything* on email or cell phones. I can take an ad to a store while I’m shopping because again, not EVERYTHING HAS TO BE on a phone. I don’t have to worry if I can’t find something on the New York Times search, which is kind of wonky, or Google, because somebody else has pushed it own; I have the hard-copy clipping, imagine that.

    Eventually, these old habits will be eradicated, but there is no reason to use Puritanical fire and brimstone to do so. People can adapt at their own pace without you in Silicon Valley in their face shoving your products at them. Technology has to benefit people, not visa versa.

    And guess what: I pay for my blog technology subscription; I pay for a Second Life subscription and server fees; I am happy to pay for Twitter when they figure out what Blizzard, makers of World of Warcraft figured out long before them, that 14 million people times $15.95 a month is a lot of money. It’s ok to have paywalls; once the micropayment systems get working better as they already work on Facebook games, you will see lots of us very willing to go pay small amounts for newspapers and other content and to tip blogs.

    Then you’ll be racing to catch up, and dropping your Bolshevim.

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  • Erick Schonfeld

    No, Intel’s main “bread and butter” business in the 1970s was selling SRAM and DRAM memory chips. While it always made microprocessors, it wasn’t until the rise of the PC that microprocessors became the main revenue generator of the business. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Corporation

  • Que

    This is not happen for a long time. Music & Movies are still available on CD, DVD & Cassette (in some countries); to get everybody on the bandwagon of downloading you will need to

    Get rid of DRM (atleast the way it currently is). Perhaps buy/lease it at current prices for xx amount of years and it is playable on all electronics.

    Universal formats for all media that will work in what ever country im in like current cd’s are (music, movies, books etc). No region specific bulls**t

    Cheap players, readers

    Internet everywhere

    Internet at cheap prices and high speeds.

    Without making a way for all consumers to have access to the new media concept it will fail like new coke.

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  • davesmall

    When the Pony Express was the primary means for long distance communications, the telegraph was invented. Everyone could clearly see that the telegraph had many advantages over the Pony Express.

    But they didn’t just shoot the horses and shut down the express. It took time to build out the network. And there were those pesky indians cutting wires which interrupted services. It took a while for the transition.

    As of today no one owns an iPad. Even if you assume that the iPad is going to be the most successful product in gadget history, it’s still going to take time for the transition. Shutting down the presses and burning the buildings wouldn’t be the right thing to do just yet.

    However, there is a thread of logic in Andreesen’s thinking. It would be a huge mistake for newspapers and magazines to let the printing and distribution boys have a say in pricing for electronic versions of their publications. Those distribution guys are likely to see the Internet as their enemy. They’ll seek to kill it off hoping that their print model can win in the end. It can not.

  • homer Jones

    Unfortunately Andreessen’s message is tainted with his political position. Obviously new media isn’t going to charge because it’s trying to compete with new media. On the other hand if old media can produce useful iPad/iPhone/mobile apps and distribute at a reasonable price than the sky is the limit. Someone has to pay journalists.

    Dismissing Job vision outright is mistaken. Andreessen may have a win but Jobs has many many wins over a lifetime. The question to Marc is what have you done lately?

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  • Roger Loubert

    From a Global Village Perspective …
    I would name The Ship ” NEWOLD”
    and get on with the true Meaning of
    Communications from the Ground Up !!!

    Expanding Circles of Relations…

    Come and Visit , Made in Canada !!!
    Il etais Une Fois Un Village et Un Pays …

    And Remember The VILLAGE VOICE
    experiment !!!

    ( and Marshall McLuhans ‘s observations of Technology beeing but Extensions of The Human Experience )

    Thanks for taking these thoughts into Consideration..

  • Roger Loubert

    A Ship called NEWOLD is what is called for Here!!!

  • TS

    Oh well, it’s so good to see that even on TechCrunch some people still believe in papers!

    Andreessen as quoted in this piece is pathetic (and I don’t understand Erick’s complacency, which I’ve seen many times now on TechCrunch: why would a thriving TechCrunch necessarily mean burning boats and killing papers?). I mean, I read TechCrunch almost every day and think it’s a fantastic source of info, I’m as tech-savvy as one could imagine, I started two software/web companies that did fairly well, I am a true believer in the disruptive power of technology and I genuinely think that the web CAN be an enhancer of democracy and transparency in a democratic society (not always/necessarily in places where society is fragile or less democratically organised already).

    BUT I will probably never, ever give up on newspapers. They represent so much more than just “info” some say you can get anywhere anyway. I am an offline and online subscriber to the Financial Times, the Economist and Le Monde, and would totally be willing to micropay for the quality of NYT articles once they move to a pay model. There are so many reasons why, without too much structure and as they come to mind:
    - holding the paper on a Sunday morning with coffee, during the week quickly before going to work without having to switch on a devide, get interrupted by emails and chats and tweets, or in a taxi, in the lobby of a hotel
    - reading on paper, which forces focus, concentration and lack of disruption by ads, links, etc, anyone who’s a book lover will know that reading a book is not the same as reading online, watching a movie or reading emails – the level of focus is much, much higher, it’s just print, black and white on paper, maybe a pic or two and colour frontpage
    - superior quality of news in some areas where fixed costs, investigation times, etc are so that online platforms/blogs will have a hard time to compete (diplomacy, international affairs, arts, war)
    - the awareness when reading a paper that thousands, millions of others are reading the same paper with the same contents and layout, enabling discussion on the day’s articles, not some fragmented post, which means that papers in this way structure society, they have a strong societal and political role – as such they also act as a check on power (that’s why China allows some access to the web and blogs, but will never allow a real, independent, national newspaper to exist!)
    - shared papers/shared ideas: any place where papers are shared, like a lobby, a reading area at the office etc are places for meeting REAL people, exchanging ideas, etc no just tweeting, blogging, micro-blogging, etc, it stimulates discussion and creates real encounters
    - diversity: you come to a new place, you pick up a paper, read it, you’d probably neve have done this if you had to GO to the website or blog or other. Also, reading a paper you often end up reading articles that you might not have read online. If you have to click somewhere to read a piece, often you will end up reading very selectively. In a paper, magazine or else, because reading paper and gestures when handling a paper are so natural you end up scanning a lot more, sometimes reading a few lines of what seemed like an irrelevant article.

    In the end, it’s all about complementarity. I can’t imagine a world now with only online media or only traditional papers, magazines. Any of the two would just suck.

    Andreessen, it’s pathetic that you are so aggressive about this. If traditional media need to disappear, they will without anyone having to declare “ok let’s burn the ship!”.

    He reminds me of the autodafes and of Fahrenheit 451.

    Innovation comes on its own, when technology and scale are achieved. NYT and others are losing money? Well if investors and readers like me are still willing to put money in, why would that be a problem? What’s ultimately wrong with this? Value, even in a market economy, is not intrinsic – it’s perceived. If people still see value in papers and traditional media (and I’l only talking about the press here, record labels and movie studios are a different debate I think), so be it.

    In the end as a citizen of this world and of both the online and offline communities, I will always be in favour of diversity and complementarity of media.

    But maybe Andreessen’s aggressive and iconoclastic positions are just a way to get publicity?

  • George

    Andreessen is also the dolt who was making the news talk show rounds a few years ago making the case for exporting all of America’s manufacturing jobs overseas and arguing that it would be good for the economy. And we all see how that turned out.

    Why does anyone pay any attention to anything he says? He has no background or education to give any advice at all. He’s like the elderly retired man at the local diner telling everyone around him how he’d solve the world’s problems.

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  • http://cirne.com Enric

    ‘”Never get out of the boat.” Absolutely goddamn right! Unless you were goin’ all the way…’:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3jak1wfO40

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  • Roger Loubert

    The Good Ship NEWOLD has indeed a Supplly of Good old Common Sense regarding what Marshall McLuhan called ” The Extensions of The Human Dimention ” ; in other Words TECHNOLOGY itself and it’s impact on our LIVES …!!!

  • cubicspace

    Netscape failed. right?

  • Known

    Sadly in the future the article wont be the product sold in any way anymore, the advertisements and sponsoring contracts will be the product sold. This conflict of interest will corrupt mainstream journalism much further as it already is. But exactly that is why paid analysis/journalism will never go away. There are few things more valuable than objective analysis and reporting. But paid journalism/analysis in the future wont be mainstream. But at least people wont have to pay anymore for their daily dose of propaganda.

  • Meteor Blades

    Mitch Nauffts gets it close to right, but, in fact, Cortes did not burn his ships at all. He had nine of them run aground instead. And then he went on to capture, loot and destroy the Aztec empire, using the weapons that Europeans found so helpful in the “New World”: treachery, guns and disease. I am not certain what advice consultants should give to old media from this history, but it definitely has nothing to do with torches.

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  • loin

    Funny, of all the expedition of Cortes, why pick this one? I mean, okay, to bring relevance to the article, then they pick the burning of boats..

    but couldn’t they come up with something better? hmm, like putting the beheading-spree adventure of cortes into the old media of today kind of story?

    Anyway as for the post, it appears where dealing again with the iPad debacles, so let’s get it on!

  • Known

    Good Journalism is good analysis. And really good analysis you will never get for free. NEVER. Not in this universe. What you meant is not journalism, it’s “reporting”. Reporting is the future for the mainstream. And reporting is cheap, thats because you can finance reporting with advertisement. Thats why paid reporting has no future. In the case of reporting, the article wont be the product sold in any way anymore, the advertisements and sponsoring contracts will be the product sold. This conflict of interest will corrupt mainstream journalism(reporting) much further as it already is. But exactly that is why paid journalism(good analysis) will never go away. There are few things more valuable than objective analysis. But it wont be visible from the mainstream media, it will be niche and for business.

  • http://www.blogmarketingmix.com Trish Jones

    Absolutely well said Prokofy Neva. I don’t want everything digitized and this is me, the one whom my husband calls the tech head nerd.

    On the few sunny days we have in England, I will take a book, find a green and read for the day. I want a book, not a kindle, not a laptop or an iPad … a paper book! My 8 year old has her own PC but if she wants to read, she wants a book so she can sit on the sofa.

    I so think I’m missing something with this arguement though because I just cannot understand why people think digital is the be all and end all and why they think people want to walk around with more expensive gadgets so they can be mugged!

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  • SteveR

    +1. What is Ning doing again? I’m not even sure why anyone is listening?

    The answer to a shrinking cash cow problem (which is not new its been around for 100s of years) is not to kill the cow or burn the boats.

    The other thing Andreesen doesn’t understand is that responsible adults running a company arent tasked 100% with finding ways to run their companies for ever. They are supposed to maximize the present value of all future cash flows. Which you do by focusing on your existing cash flows. Good companies shrink and die, it’ll happen to Google too down the line. Just like netscape!!

  • DrPizza

    I wonder if we’d be seeing the same contempt for tablets if Arrington hadn’t fucked up the CrunchPad?

    2009: “CrunchPad will be the fucking greatest thing ever”
    2010: “Tablets? Who cares about tablets?”

    ell oh ell.

  • Carolyn

    Thank you, Ray!

    PS: Like your homepage and “Bring Me Men” sermon of Scout Sunday, 100207. My favorite SW Foss lines are: “Pioneers to clear Thought’s marshlands,
    And to cleanse old Error’s fen.” although
    “Men with empires in their purpose,
    And new eras in their brains.” is more pertinent to this post.

  • http://www.OwenBrunette.com Owen Brunette

    The telcos did try micropayments. The UK PTO for example operated Prestel which charged 1 to 3 pence for bulletin board services in the from 1979 into the 1980s. Unfortunately individuals wouldn’t pay even 1 penny for most pages and corporates feared the undefined operating cost so the service had very poor usage. It’s not just the payment problems. People just don’t like paying for things and the mental barrier for a micropayment is actually to high so you might as well ask them for $15 per month as a penny a page. We now have the internet but people haven’t changed.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1132530259 Milton Halawicious Montgomery Hasselbury

    What is the name of the painting of the ship on fire? I want a print.

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  • http://www.priorityresuts.com Jim Larranaga

    Nothing is free forever. What’s the famous line? “Somewhere somebody is gonna pay!” If advertisers or sponsors pay, then consumers get their content for free. If advertisers bailout on advertising in print and online, then at least some sections of the old media’s web sites could be paid by the consumer — even if it’s micro payments debited from their iTunes account. I bet Steve Jobs would like that!

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  • Tom

    A few observations on Andreesen’s comments.

    1. Burning the boats. I think that we need to understand what the boats are before we burn them. Old media has at least a couple different components, and it doesn’t make sense to set fire to the whole operation. First, it’s a news-gathering service, employing real reporters who follow real stories. Second, it’s a publishing business with printing presses, ink, paper, delivery trucks, etc. I would argue that the only boat they really want to burn is the latter one.

    2. News has real value. A lot of people seem to think that the blogosphere is all that matters, and that all value flows from commentary and grassroots “reporting” from Twitter. That’s ridiculous, and anybody saying that either doesn’t have a clue, or is seriously disconnected from reality. Real journalists chase real stories. They pound the pavement. They don’t sit in the comfort of their homes like bloggers and comment on what real journalists are reporting. Imagine if all of the news disappeared overnight. Who would provide it to you? Blogspot? Facebook? Twitter? Are you kidding me?!? There will always be a need for real journalism. Not the pseudo-journalism that many people practice.

    3. Republishing. A few big fish — like Google — are basically sucking all of the oxygen out of the pond. They’re not leaving any room for anybody else to make any money from advertising. Sure, a lot of people say, “Well, there’s nothing wrong with that — Google is just being smart, times change, and, if they didn’t do it, somebody else would.” I agree that Google, as a search engine, provides a lot of value. But it’s just a search engine. It can’t function without content to feed it. It’s like those guys stoking the coal stoves on the Titanic, constantly shoveling fuel to keep the ship running. What happens when the content starts to dry up because the people supplying it can’t make any money? Who gathers the news? Big consolidated media companies? It appears that that is what’s happening here. Before our eyes, Google is morphing into a media company — even though nobody realizes it yet. Sooner or later, it will control so much of the revenue from the news business that it will have no other option but to fund the news, itself. The news gatherers would be smart to band together and force change from Google before their industry is dismantled.

    4. The iPad won’t change anything. It’s no better than an iPhone. It’s no better than a PC. It does not fundamentally change the dynamics of the market. Andreesen had it right. There are billions of people using the Web. Apple will be lucky to sell a few million iPads. That isn’t going to keep the newspapers afloat, even in their most wildly optimistic fantasies…

  • http://www.urlsreview.com urlsreview.com

    People like Andreessen conveniently forgot the fact that a good percentage of the quality content that readers access on the web is still produced by these boring print media companies.

    If users are willing to pay for useful software, why not for content? Are technology products anyway superior that they only deserved to be paid?

  • Gus

    Is he being serious, or is it for effect? If he’s serious he suddenly disenfranchises millions of people who don’t have a smart reading device and a 3G connection to consume news on the move. It’s not really moving the debate forward, it’s attention-grabbing for whatever product or service he’s developing next.

  • Roger Loubert

    In Canada , we say ” Voilier or Bateau ” when thinking of SHIPS !!!! ( And as to burning them , what a waste !)

    in the Rearview mirror of a Guttenberg Era left in the Dust , the very ideas of EXTENSIONS , as per TECHNOLOGIES Real and Imaginary Role in all of Our Lives is why I highly suggest THE MECHANICAL BRIDE as a Good Read … Author : Marshall McLuhan ….

    A Global Village is upon us , as we circle the Globe at the speed of light . AND WE WANT TO BURN THE SHIPS that keep us Grounded to a ” Sense of Place , Direction and Identity? ( Lift Anchors Mates , we’ve a Journey ahead of us where ALL of OUR TECHNOLOGIES will be usefull as we travel the MINDSCAPES of Future’s Past ever more Present in The Moment!!!!

    OR as Tomothy Finlay would say : , when you put Matter ( The Ship ) over Mind ( The Creative Process)
    then the Imagination is Indeed in Jeapordy!!!

    His Lecture given at UBC ( University of British Columbia , Canada was actually entitled ….

    “MATTER OVER MIND : THE IMAGINATION IN JEAPORDY” , but I still thing it applies ..

    What do you think ?

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  • http://DomainShane Shane

    Rough Crowd in here. I get the story and the message being relayed. You guys need to get over the detail and understand the message. Somebody could give you guys a Ferrari and all you would do was bitch about the color, the gas mileage, and the insurance.

  • http://www.blogmarketingmix.com Trish Jones

    Explain then Shane since I’m one of those ungrateful ones you’re talking about.

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  • Roger Loubert

    As in Mind being The Medium BEING THE MESSAGE….!!! (is what the confusion is all about here)

    Most who disagree are simply going to a Deeper Dimention of what Communications isreally all about. …

    The Ledger is on The Side of KNOWLEDGE perse ,
    and not Information itself , which invariably – Information that is – seeds and becomes a SUBSTANCE capable of activating THOUGHT ; but isn’t thought perse …

    Thus a Mind to Mind expperience / Exploration and Discovery is closer to where we are in these Uncharted Seas , hence the importance of holding on to The Communications Ship of Old !!! Till Terra Firma of A New World is found …

    The Question of Product / Content / Context and INTENSION itself ,when looking at The Mindscape being shared here, provides ample proof of the Contrary of what you advance Shane…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=720325903 Josh Quittner

    > “At risk is 80% of revenues and headcount,” >Andreessen acknowledges, “but shift happens.”

    It’s more like 90%, in my opinion. So how does that “save” the business exactly? Wouldn’t it be easier to start from scratch?

  • John

    None of these “new media” companies make any real money. Andreesen is also kidding himself if he thinks only web-based content can sell in the future.
    Politico makes no money on the web. Huff Post makes no money on the web.
    And how is that prediction about the Times going out of business doing for you, Marc?
    Last I checked, they were profitable again and had a website that was tops in all the world for news traffic.

  • Pat

    How could someone so smart be so wrong?

    I’m not in denial. Newspapers’ print product is dying, but it is still profitable & in the current environment, it looks, feels, and delivers a rich stream of cash – just like an annuity. As painful as this situation is, who in their right mind would burn an annuity before it expires?

    Yes, old media needs to evolve, but Andreesen must recognize that the legacy print product is a classic “cash cow”. The (declining) profits that it delivers funds any future innovation. Absent of this – if old media “burns the boats” – then they would be forced to secure venture funding to fuel any innovation. Which is worse?

  • http://www.ipadnput.com iPad News Blog

    The iPad could become a huge success or it might fail. You never know, but it’s initial launch will sell out, but who knows if that trend will follow. Besides everyone knows next years model is going to own!

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  • http://www.skill-guru.com skillguru

    Shutting down print media… that is too much.
    I still know lot of people and me personally that loves print.
    And why are you ignoring the older people who love to read the book and newspaper and not just read something on kindle and iPad.

  • media_gal

    Finally someone who’s been doing some thinking! You are right…”Free” is not a business model. Media rushed in to set up websites and gave their content away for free because “everyone else was doing it.” Advertising dollars were flowing freely so the party continued. Now they’re sorry. Hard to get people to pay even one dollar when they’re used to getting it for free.
    Unlikely that print will die. It’s death knell was sound when radio was introduced, again with the advent of television, and again when cable got started. What I expect will happen is that print will have to get a whole lot better in order to survive – either in online or offline formats. Editorial got really sloppy during the boom years. The survives will be the ones who can develop proprietary, high quality content that’s a “must read” for their target audience. That means a doing a 360 for many media companies.
    I also concur with Jim Long. Excellent comment.

  • Coloradonews

    Can we take this conversation positive and talk solutions?
    Lots of journalists have already lost their boats, and are trying to do news online. But Google has driven down the ad rates to the point that no one can earn enough online to pay a staff, much less have enough hope of earning a profit to get VC financing.
    So, does anyone know of an organization in the US making a profit on gathering and producing NEWS online? the kind of news we actually need to make a democracy work? at the state and local level?
    No, Huffpost is opinion, and news taken from others who actually pay for gathering it. The Stranger, if it is making money, is not covering much in the way of significant news.
    In short, does anyone in the US have a business model for serious news online only that Andreessen’s own VC company would fund?

  • ianf

    Let’s say Old Media heeds Andreessen’s advice and burns the boats (and the bridges leading to the boats (and the docks where now-burned bridges once begun (and…)))). So who is going to feed the kids of people now making up the Old Media while they’re being retrained to become New Media Digital Enterpreneurs, 3D-Graphic Designers, Affregation Artists and the like? It goes without saying: even if it wanted to, Old Media isn’t going to go away in a flash. Let’s get some time perspective into the process…. 50 years, and that’d be the day.

  • http://bcdcideas.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/be-careful-with-matches/ Be careful with matches « BC/DC Ideas

    [...] a link to a story where Marc Andreessen, a Silicon Valley heavyweight, suggests traditional media like the NY Times [...]

  • http://botd.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/top-posts-1410/ Top Posts — WordPress.com

    [...] Andreessen’s Advice To Old Media: “Burn The Boats” Legend has it that when Cortes landed in Mexico in the 1500s, he ordered his men to burn the ships that had brought [...] [...]

  • http://doom45.personal.asu.edu/wordpress/?p=156 several ideas and comments in one post [because the server was down] « the tablet tableau

    [...] Marc Andreessen recently told Erick Schonfeld of TechCrunch that legacy media should take the same approach as Cortes, the great explorer: “You gotta [...]

  • http://www.synthesio.com/blog/index.php/08/03/2010/breves-du-08032010/ Le Blog de Synthesio » Blog Archive » Brèves du 08/03/2010

    [...] médias condamnés à devenir des entreprises technologiques ? http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/06/andreessen-media-burn-boats/ [...]

  • http://www.ezebis.com/2010/03/venture/online-revenue-business-models/ Online Revenue Business Models | Ezebis

    [...] Mark Andreessen, a venture capitalist, founder of Netscape & owner of Ning social network,  ‘Andreessen’s Advice To Old Media: “Burn The Boats”’ which said: In particular, he was talking about print media such as newspapers and magazines, and [...]

  • http://dogownershub.com/?p=164 Secrets to Potty Training a Puppy | Dogownershub has dog videos,pet care,dog health articles,and more

    [...] Andreessen's Advice To Old Media: “Burn The Boats” [...]

  • http://blog.stanfordreview.org/2010/03/09/3-8-2010-the-day-in-review/ 3-8-2010 The Day in Review | F i a t Lux

    [...] Arrillaga’s son-in-law Mark Andreessen says it’s time to give up on the print [...]

  • http://blog.creuna.dk/2010/03/09/hvor-er-din-app-strategi/ Hvor er din app strategi? « CreunaBlog

    [...] at der i q4 2009 var solgt ca. 38 mio Iphones globalt … at det vurderes at Ipad bliver en succes, hvis der bliver solgt 5 mio. (det er iøvrigt en knaldgod artikel fra Techchunch om strategi for [...]

  • http://nwotv.net/old-media-should-just-burn-the-boats.html Old Media Should Just Burn The Boats :: NWO TV

    [...] disinformation® will be discussing endlessly this week, I am sure, reported by Erick Schonfeld at TechCrunch: Legend has it that when Cortes landed in Mexico in the 1500s, he ordered his men to burn the ships [...]

  • http://nw0.eu/2010/03/08/old-media-should-just-burn-the-boats.html Old Media Should Just Burn The Boats | NW0.eu

    [...] disinformation® will be discussing endlessly this week, I am sure, reported by Erick Schonfeld at TechCrunch: Legend has it that when Cortes landed in Mexico in the 1500s, he ordered his men to burn the ships [...]

  • http://www.hypercrit.net/everything/?p=402 lifestream » Blog Archive » publishall 03/09/2010

    [...] Andreessen’s Advice To Old Media: “Burn The Boats” [...]

  • http://schmiddi.us/randomthoughts/?p=1052 just because andreessen invented the browser, doesn’t make him right all the time | random thoughts

    [...] believe in an argument i want to make sure it has merit … and reading through the now famous techcrunch story on the andreessen conversation i have my doubts i would follow the “burn the boats” advice from marc. here is why. [...]

  • http://joemichaud.com/2010/03/09/not-a-nanosecond-on-the-ipad/ ‘Not a nanosecond on the iPad’ « joemichaud.com

    [...] ‘Not a nanosecond on the iPad’ ”All the new companies are not spending a nanosecond on the iPad or thinking of ways to charge for content. The older companies, that is all they are thinking about.” Marc Andreessen, Netscape founder, as quoted by TechCrunch. [...]

  • Jason

    Couldnt have said it better myself. Andreesen has no clue about Old OR New media. Give it away he says. Great, now how do we make a profit? Oh hang on, that was the problem Netscape (and loudcloud etc) had but didnt seem to bother this revolutionary CEO…

    Burn the boats???? He’s saying burn the money more like!

  • ianf

    @igniman’s “micropayment model worked for song downloads, and it works for online games”
    These are NOT micropayments (working or not) as they were once defined. The term has been hijacked, and misappropriated by several other payment systems, which can be said to be “working” only because there are no better alternatives. As once defined and [under]promoted, however, micropayments meant microscopic-scale (think US$0.0000001/kB) transparently-metered access to the Internet, where every byte of content was equally worthy of being paid for; the actual payments would accrue in an unotrusive manner; and would be paid via mutually agreed hands-off debit route.

  • ianf

    > Andreessen may have been a great technologist [...]
    Andreessen was just a programmer who happened to be in the right place at the right time—when adding images to HTML came pretty far down on Tim Berners-Lee’s list of priorities at CERN. Perfecting his own NeXTbrowser, the first graphical web browser ever written, was deemed more important, alongside other worthy pursuits of optimizing the www-libs, etc. I participated in www-talk and, to a lesser extent, www-dev mailing lists in 1993, and I do not remember there being any great deal of longing for the pictures. So that’s Anderseen’s sole claim to fame (or infamy as purists would have it.)

  • http://www.combridges.com/2010/03/the-shrinking-stage-of-the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-and-the-colbert-report/ The Shrinking Stage of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and The Colbert Report

    [...] illuminate this perspective, here are Marc Andreessen’s comments on TechCrunch, entitled Andreessen’s Advice To Old Media: “Burn The Boats.” Among other things, he said: No matter how many iPads the Apple sells, the Web will always be the [...]

  • http://www.mediahunter.com.au/has-marketing-entered-the-specialist-era/ Has marketing entered the specialist era? | Media Hunter

    [...] few days ago Marc Andreesen advised the old media to “burn the boats”. In particular he was referring to the print media who have been attempting to straddle print and [...]

  • http://rebootnews.com/2010/03/09/rebooting-the-news-43/ Rebooting the News #43 « Rebooting The News

    [...] It’s like Mark Andreessen says: burn the boats. When the quarterback gets the ball, he always drops back a few yards to buy himself some time to [...]

  • http://reinventingthenewsroom.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/to-burn-the-boats-or-not/ To Burn the Boats, or Not? « Reinventing the Newsroom

    [...] comment, made to Erick Schonfeld of TechCrunch, refers to the legend that when Cortés’s expedition landed in Mexico in 1519, he told his [...]

  • http://jrw051000.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/exploration/ Exploration « The Charybdian

    [...] March 10, 2010, 1:31 pm Filed under: Social Media, Uncategorized It took a while, but finally the boat-burning crossed my Twitter feed. As someone who works for a campus newspaper in a school with no journalism [...]

  • http://www.peb.com.br/blog_paulo/?p=136 A mídia impressa deve seguir a estratégia de Cortés? « Blog do Paulo Reginato

    [...] entrevista recente ao Techcrunch, Andreesen diz que as empresas de comunicação não conseguem lidar com a mudança constante, o [...]

  • http://watchmojo.com/web/blog/index.php/2010/03/11/marc-andreessens-crazy-pyromaniac-recipe-for-disaster-for-print-media-companies/ WatchMojo.com blogs – Marc Andreessen’s Crazy Pyromaniac Recipe for Disaster for Print Media Companies

    [...] related tags: Internet & Web | Management | Magazines | Newspapers | Last weekend Tech Crunch published Marc Andreessen’s crazy manifesto, something about torching ships.  It sounds really great, [...]

  • http://www.nxtbookmedia.com/blog/2010/03/11/hold-the-matches/ Hold the Matches | Nxtblog

    [...] Andreesen says that if you have a print magazine, you should shut it down and plow forward on the Web. Be like Cortes, he says, and "Burn the boats." Here’s 4 reasons I think he’s [...]

  • http://www.rajajasti.com/2010/03/11/economics-of-news/ Economics of News « Raja Jasti’s Blog – Renaissance Thinking

    [...] people including Marc Andereesen suggest the news should go exclusively online. But as Chris Dixon points out, news is lousy for [...]

  • http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/this-week-in-review-plagiarism-and-the-link-location-and-context-at-sxsw-and-advice-for-newspapers/ This Week in Review: Plagiarism and the link, location and context at SXSW, and advice for newspapers » Nieman Journalism Lab

    [...] from two relatively big-time folks in the tech world. First, Netscape co-founder Marc Andreessen gave an interview with TechCrunch’s Erick Schonfeld in which he told newspaper execs to “burn the [...]

  • http://bryanskelton.com/2010/03/newspaper-economics-online-and-offline-foj/ BryanSkelton.com » Blog Archive » Newspaper economics: online and offline #foj

    [...] societal value of news, IMHO, and similarly recommends to “burn the ships” ( Andreessen http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/06/andreessen-media-burn-boats/) and kill the print version to save costs. Varian’s main suggestion is to experiment, [...]

  • http://mindtapcmo.com/stop-delivering-mail-build-usps-2-0/ Stop Delivering Mail: Build USPS 2.0 | MindTapCMO

    [...] a recent TechCrunch article, entrepreneur Marc Andreessen suggested that traditional media outlets “burn the [...]

  • http://www.spearfishlabs.com/friday-social-media-round-up/ Friday Social Media Round Up | Spearfish Labs

    [...] Andreessen’s Advice To Old Media: “Burn The Boats” – Erick [...]

  • http://wordpost.org/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-publishers/ Back to Basics: An Open Letter to Publishers | wordpost

    [...] old-school publishing (even as old-school companies are thinking about ebook and iPad releases) in an interview with Tech Crunch: All the new companies are not spending a nanosecond on the iPad or thinking of ways to charge for [...]

  • http://blogs.cbs.dk/cbsbibliotek/?p=4225 CBS Bibliotek Blog – Innovation & Ny Viden » Blog Archive » Man kan ikke pakke fisk ind i webaviser – de lugter sådan

    [...] Medierne har snart længe diskuteret fremtiden for de trykte medier som aviser og magasiner. Mange har forudset deres fremtidige bortgang. På TechCrunch anbefaler Marc Andreesen at man “brænder broerne” og kommer i gang med digitale platforme før det er for sent Andreessen’s Advice To Old Media: “Burn The Boats”. [...]

  • http://davidakennedy.com/links-to-learn-by-the-print-vs-new-media-debate/ Links to Learn by: The Print vs. New Media Debate | (e)INTERtain

    [...] had Marc Andreessen, the man who invented Mosaic, the first widely used web browser. In the post, Andreessen advises media companies to “burn the boats,” so to speak and abandon their print [...]

  • http://blog.ginsudo.com/2010/03/12/burn-this/ burn this « ginsudo

    [...] dying, as any media observer could tell you.  But I don’t get the strident call to “burn the boats,” as Cortés supposedly did when he conquered Mexico for Spain. Never mind that the legend [...]

  • http://timkastelle.org/blog/2010/03/business-model-innovation-for-news/ Business Model Innovation for News « Business Models « Innovation Leadership Network

    [...] week I tweeted abougt two stories on this topic – Marc Andreessen’s interview in which he says that media companies have to “burn the boats” and fully commit to [...]

  • http://www.webmaster-source.com/2010/03/13/blogbuzz-march-13-2010/ BlogBuzz March 13, 2010

    [...] Andreessen’s Advice To Old Media: “Burn The Boats” [...]

  • http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/03/14/euthanazing-the-paper-not-yet/ Euthanazing the paper? Not yet. | Monday Note

    [...] Andreesen, reiterated his recommendation: “Burn the Boats”. In a statement reported by TechCrunch, he used Hernan Cortes as a model. This is the explorer who, in the 16th century, after landing in [...]

  • http://teachj.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/cool-links-81-the-one-about-500600/ Cool Links #81: The One About 500/600 « TEACH J: For Teachers of Journalism And Media

    [...] – Much has been written this week about Marc Andreessen’s advice to burn the boats of the old media world and colonize the digital world.   I agree with Marc, but only to a point.  We need to burn the [...]

  • http://reason.com/blog/2010/03/14/kill-your-newspaper-filloux-fl Kill Your Newspaper? Filloux Flings Fillip at Floundering Feuilletons – Hit & Run : Reason Magazine

    [...] agreeing with Marc Andreessen, partial inventor of the standard web browser, who says in an interview with TechCrunch that it's time to euthanize newspaper print editions and focus solely on virtual [...]

  • http://publicstrategist.com/2010/03/interesting-elsewhere-15-march-2010/ Interesting elsewhere – 15 March 2010 | Public Strategist

    [...] Andreessen’s Advice To Old Media: “Burn The Boats” [...]

  • Rationality

    Andreessen speaks like someone who has never actually been in publishing. He’s flat wrong.

  • http://blog.pongr.com/2010/03/23/memo-to-doomsayers-traditional-media-is-floating-just-fine/ Memo to Doomsayers: Traditional media is floating just fine « Pongr Blog

    [...] guru Marc Andreessen has some outrageous advice for print publications to boost their readership: commit [...]

  • http://connectandcollaborate.com/es/2010/03/23/el-ipad/ Connect and Collaborate

    [...] leí una entrevista en TechCrunch a Mark Andreseen (fundador de Netscape y de Ning, entre otros), Andreessen’s Advice To Old Media: “Burn The Boats” donde hace un ataque frontal a los medios tradicionales y les dice que para reinventarse tienen que [...]

  • http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/this-week-in-review-loads-of-sxsw-ideas-pews-state-of-the-news-and-a-dire-picture-of-local-tv-news/ This Week in Review: Loads of SXSW ideas, Pew’s state of the news, and a dire picture of local TV news » Nieman Journalism Lab

    [...] conversation sparked by Netscape co-founder Marc Andreesen’s advice for newspapers to forget the printed paper and go all-in with online news continued this week, with [...]

  • http://excapite.wordpress.com/2010/03/26/prospecting-for-idust/ Prospecting for iDust « excapite

    [...]  Marc Andreessen tells us that no matter how many iPads are sold, the Web will always be the bigger market. “There [...]

  • http://kkuukka.wordpress.com/2010/03/28/parallel-minds/ Parallel Minds… « Kari Kuukka Photography – a blog

    [...] Schonfeld interviewed Marc Andreessen some weeks ago and their conversation brought back Cortez and his burning of the ships once they had landed in Mexico some 500 years ago. [...]

  • http://www.transaction-consulting.com/wp/?p=103 Ready for mobile Commerce? « Transaction Consulting
  • http://www.newmedici.com/2010/04/03/should-traditional-media-%e2%80%9cburn-the-boats%e2%80%9d-as-marc-andreessen-advises/ New Medici™ – Media Strategy + Lifestyle Innovation Network | | Should Traditional Media “Burn The Boats” as Marc Andreessen Advises?

    [...] Jump to Marc Andreessen and his Cortes metaphor. Per Techcrunch: [...]

  • http://blog.miguelcavalcanti.com/2010/04/03/ipad-midia-tradicional-e-online-sistemas-abertos-e-fechados/ iPad, mídia tradicional e online, sistemas abertos e fechados « Miguel da Rocha Cavalcanti

    [...] que criou o Netscape, e é uma das pessoas que mais respeito e admiro na internet, deu uma entrevista ao Techcrunch, que deram o título de Burn the boats. Marc recomenda que as empresas de mídias tradicionais fechem suas edições impressas. Só assim [...]

  • http://www.mulley.net/2010/04/25/ipads-and-the-future-of-news-and-media/ iPads and the future of news and media « Damien Mulley

    [...] thinking that will save them and others are looking at paywalls, again. Marc Andreessen suggests burning the boats and going web only. Let management have a viking funeral [...]

  • http://ebookpress.wordpress.com/2010/04/29/e-o-ipad-nao-salvou-os-jornais-e-as-revistas/ E o iPad não salvou os jornais e as revistas… « eBook Reader

    [...] membro do conselho do Facebook, em entrevista ao TechCrunch, foi menos diplomático ao afirmar que: nenhum aparelho, por mais bem-sucedido que seja [em vendas], vai superar a base instalada de mais de…. De novo: milhões de consumidores “pagantes” de aplicações no iPad não vão reverter os [...]

  • http://www.robbmontgomery.com Robb Montgomery

    Cortes burned the boats, murdered a million souls and destroyed a rich, ancient civilization. All because of gold. I feel like Paul Harvey here. "Now you know the REST OF THE STORY."

  • http://www.qprintpro.com Web to Print

    I agree. Change is hard, but unstoppable!

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  • http://www.selulit-kremi.com Selülit Tedavisi

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