Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet
Eric Clemons
Mar 22, 2009

Editor’s note: The following is a guest post by Eric Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. In it, he argues that the Internet shatters all forms of advertising.  “The problem is not the medium, the problem is the message, and the fact that it is not trusted, not wanted, and not needed,” he writes. The views he expresses are his own, and we present them here to foster debate.  (Obviously, we hope there is a place for advertising on the Internet since it pays our bills). Update This post has obviously touched a nerve. Clemons responds to his critics below at the bottom of the post.

    1. There Must Be Something Other Than Advertising:

The expected drop in internet advertising revenues this year was neither unpredictable nor unpredicted, nor was it caused solely by the general recession and the decline in retail sales.  Internet advertising will rapidly lose its value and its impact, for reasons that can easily be understood.  Traditional advertising simply cannot be carried over to the internet, replacing full-page ads on the back of The New York Times or 30-second spots on the Super Bowl broadcast with pop-ups, banners, click-throughs on side bars.  This might be a subject where considerable disagreement is possible, if indeed, pushed ads were still working in traditional media. Mostly they have failed. One newspaper after another is going out of business across the United States, and the ad revenues of traditional print media, even of highly respected magazines, is declining. The ultimate failure of broadcast media advertising is likewise becoming clear.

Pushing a message at a potential customer when it has not been requested and when the consumer is in the midst of something else on the net, will fail as a major revenue source for most internet sites.  This is particularly true when the consumer knows that the sponsor of the ad has paid to have this information, which was verified by no one, thrust at him.  The net will find monetization models and these will be different from the advertising models used by mass media, just as the models used by mass media were different from the monetization models of theater and sporting events before them.  Indeed, there has to be some way to create websites that do other than provide free access to content, some of it proprietary, some of it licensed, and some of it stolen, and funded by advertising.

The idea that content has a price and net applications should find ways to earn a profit without providing free access to other people’s content gets explosive reactions; when virtual reality pioneer and tech guru Jaron Lanier suggested in a New York Times Op Ed that authors deserved to be paid for their content he actually received death threats.  But other models are possible and several suggestions for alternative forms of monetization are offered below.

    2. Advertising will fail:

The internet is the most liberating of all mass media developed to date.  It is participatory, like swapping stories around a campfire or attending a renaissance fair.  It is not meant solely to push content, in one direction, to a captive audience, the way movies or traditional network television did.  It provides the greatest array of entertainment and information, on any subject, with any degree of formality, on demand.  And it is the best and the most trusted source of commercial product information on cost, selection, availability, and suitability, using community content, professional reviews and peer reviews.

My basic premise is that the internet is not replacing advertising but shattering it, and all the king’s horses, all the king’s men, and all the creative talent of Madison Avenue cannot put it together again. To analyze this statement we need a working definition of advertising, and I proposed the following, which is as general as I could make it:

Advertising is using sponsored commercial messages to build a brand and paying to locate these messages where they will be observed by potential customers performing other activities; these messages describe a product or service, its price or fundamental attributes, where it can be found, its explicit advantages, or the implicit benefits from its use.

It is frequently argued that the advertising industry will provide sufficient innovation to replace the loss of traditional ads on traditional mass media.  Again, my basic premise rejects this, suggesting that simple commercial messages, pushed through whatever medium, in order to reach a potential customer who is in the middle of doing something else, will fail.  It’s not that we no longer need information to initiate or to complete a transaction; rather, we will no longer need advertising to obtain that information.  We will see the information we want, when we want it, from sources that we trust more than paid advertising.  We will find out what we need to know, when we want to make a commercial transaction of any kind.  The conventional wisdom is that this is exactly what paid search helps us to do, but all too often they are nothing more than a form of misdirection, as I explain further below.  Instead, we will use information that we trust, obtained at the time that we want to see it.

Better targeting of ads using individual interests and individual behaviors will ensure that we do not bore or annoy as many people with each ad, but cannot address the trust issue. As for paid search, it is closer to other mechanisms that allow a website to sell access to potential customers. It works effectively as a revenue source for Google, of course. But it surely is not replicable for the average content website.

    3. Advertising will fail for three reasons:

There are three problems with advertising in any form, whether broadcast or online:

  • Consumers do not trust advertising. Dan Ariely has demonstrated that messages attributed to a commercial source have much lower credibility and much lower impact on the perception of product quality than the same message attributed to a rating service. Forrester Research has completed studies that show that advertising and company sponsored blogs are the least-trusted source of information on products and services, while recommendations from friends and online reviews from customers are the highest.
  • Consumers do not want to view advertising. Think of watching network TV news and remember that the commercials on all the major networks are as closely synchronized as possible.  Why?  If network executives believed we all wanted to see the ads they would be staggered, so that users could channel surf to view the ads; ads are synchronized so that users cannot channel surf to avoid the ads.
  • And mostly consumers do not need advertising. My own research suggests that consumers behave as if they get much of their information about product offerings from the internet, through independent professional rating sites like dpreview.com or community content rating services like Ratebeer.com or TripAdvisor

Yes, both network executives and their ad agencies have noted that we are not watching traditional ads, and they attribute this to the fact that we have moved beyond newspapers, televised network news, and broadcast movies, to video games, iPods, and the internet.  Porting ads to a new medium will not solve the three problems noted above.  The problem is not the medium, the problem is the message, and the fact that it is not trusted, not wanted, and not needed.

    4. Alternative models for monetization are available:

Again, my research suggests that there are three general categories for creating value that can be monetized, including selling real things, selling virtual things, and selling access. Some websites exist solely to sell real things.  Many of the best-known perform aggregation of demand, so that there will be enough customers to justify stocking and selling items for which there is only limited demand.  Amazon is merely the best-known example.  Sites like Amazon and Zappos are especially good for long tail items … where else do you go for a copy of the Green Sea of Heaven, Elizabeth T. Gray’s magnificent translation of the Ghazals of Hafiz, or for a pair of size 20 basketball shoes?  Selling real things online has been studied since the advent of interest in eCommerce and will not be discussed further here. Other websites sell virtual things.  These activities fall into three categories:

  • Selling content and information, from digital music to news and information.  Some of these sites are funded by subscriptions, like Gartner Research; some are by direct micropayments for purchases, like iTunes; and some currently attempt to fund themselves through advertising, like Business Week or The New York Times, while still searching for a more effective business model.
  • Selling experience and participation in a virtual community, including Second Life and World of Warcraft, Facebook and MySpace, Flickr and YouTube, or LinkedIn.  Not all of these have found a way to charge for participation.
  • Selling accessories for virtual communities, like completed homes and stores, furnishings, clothing, and pets in Second Life or characters and accessories that would be difficult to earn in World of Warcraft, although this behavior is generally despised by serious World of Warcraft players.

Finally, some websites create and sell access to customers.  Again, this can be divided into multiple categories.

  • Misdirection, or sending customers to web locations other than the ones for which they are searching.  This is Google’s business model. Monetization of misdirection frequently takes the form of charging companies for keywords and threatening to divert their customers to a competitor if they fail to pay adequately for keywords that the customer is likely to use in searches for the companies’ products; that is, misdirection works best when it is threatened rather than actually imposed, and when companies actually do pay the fees demanded for their keywords.  Misdirection most frequently takes the form of diverting customers to companies that they do not wish to find, simply because the customer’s preferred company underbid.  Misdirection also includes misinformation, such as telling a customer that a hotel is sold out when, indeed it is still available, if the hotel has chosen not to pay a promotional fee, and then allowing the guest to choose an alternative property.  Misdirection is, regrettably, still a popular business model on the net, although for reasons I explored in an earlier TechCrunch post on Google it seems ultimately to be unsustainable. More significantly from the perspective of this post, it is not scalable; it is not possible for every website to earn its revenue from sponsored search and ultimately at least some of them will need to find an alternative revenue model.
  • Evaluation, assessment, and validation. The opposite of sending a customer someplace other than where he wants is providing the customer enough information for him to make an informed choice on his own. Recommendations on TripAdvisor.com allow potential guests to evaluate and validate recommendations provided by Hotels.com; not surprisingly, Hotels.com originally owned TripAdvisor, and benefited greatly from it.  Since Hotels.com did not attempt to influence or censor TripAdvisor content the website was (and is) trusted and helped put recommendations from Hotels.com at a level of trust comparable to those from an experienced travel agent.  There are at present only a few other examples of website symbiosis like this, where community content on one site adds considerable value for another; consider also the relationship between the Beeryard’s list of new beers and Ratebeer.com, where clicking on the name of a newly arrived beer at the Beeryard will allow you to examine reviews on Ratebeer.com.
  • Social search. Social search is a way of tailoring search based on the user’s network of friends.  Rather than searching for any hotel in Chicago, or for any hotel that paid for the keywords “hotel” and “Chicago” I would like to be able to ask for the hotel where my friends stay when they are in Chicago.  This invades no one’s privacy, avoids the annoyance of pushing ads at me when I am not searching for something to buy, and provides more relevant results than paid search usually can deliver. There are many problems with this, including the fact that my friends may not be on Facebook or other networks yet and those that are may not post their hotel or automobile or restaurant preferences. Most seriously, while it is clear how Microsoft might benefit from this, using its Facebook connection to undercut Google sponsored search, it is not clear how Microsoft or any other firm could monetize this directly.
  • Contextual mobile ads.  At present contextual mobile ads delivered by SMS appear to offer much promise.  Imagine a hypothetical all-knowing information-based firm that (i) knows your location because you have registered to have the information from your in-phone GPS shared with your friends and (ii) knows that you like Thai restaurants because it monitors the content of your email and your online restaurant searches and (iii) knows that you are hungry because you just said so in a text message or Twitter post you sent from your phone.  What a great time for them to text you an advertisement for a nearby Thai restaurant, sent directly to your phone.  But why would you trust this?  I remember when Hotels.com used to refer me to the same hotel, albeit at different prices, when I asked for a two-star or three-star hotel close to my office; I was never sure which was more amusing, the 80% price increase for the same hotel when I was willing to splurge on a three-star for my visitor, or the fact that there were comparable hotels 20 blocks closer to my office.  I suspect that my hypothetical all-knowing firm will similarly be providing sponsored content; perhaps I will take a couple of additional seconds in order to find the restaurant I really want. This probably does not work as a form of advertising.

Of course no one knows yet, but if I had to guess, based on my meatspace experience, I would offer the following guesses for successfully monetizing the net in the future:

  • Selling Virtual Things: People will pay for superior, timely, original content and for superior online experiences.  Presently I willingly pay for the Financial Times, The Economist, and Foreign Affairs, I value the content, and, indeed, I feel I need it; I will continue to pay for them online.  Perhaps I would not be willing to pay for archive material, which I expect that I would be able to find elsewhere, but I will cheerfully pay for the newest content online.  Similarly, I willingly pay the cover change for my favorite jazz clubs in New York, and expect that I would cheerfully pay to participate in Second Life or World of Warcraft if, indeed, I had any interest in those virtual experiences.  I guess, ultimately, if we compete for status through our purchases of accessories, clothes and homes in meatspace we will probably continue to purchase virtual accessories in Second Life, though I can’t say I fully understand this yet.
  • Selling Access. Misdirection will fail totally and completely.  I use a Mac, but I have abandoned Safari for Firefox.  I have an iPhone and an iPod but I have never used the little white earbuds, preferring instead to purchase a pair of Shure E500 phones that I think sound vastly superior. Similarly, I would be equally happy to purchase a search service that worked for me, rather than accept a free one that works both against me and against the firms I patronize.  In contrast, while people will continue to value community content and social search, these will be difficult to monetize.  Finally, contextual mobile ads will, likewise be difficult to monetize.  With information easily available, I will make my own restaurant choices, irrespective of those pushed at me via SMS, especially when I know that those pushed at me have been pushed for a fee, rather than based on an impartial assessment of my preferences.  Yes, I can imagine SMS ads initially succeeding if they provide discounts, but ultimately this leads to little more than a bidding war for traffic and benefits no one other than the firm that provides the text messaging services.  I can think of a few commercial SMS services that will benefit everyone, such as letting the most loyal guests of a restaurant know when it is still possible to get a reservation if they act immediately, eliminating the inefficiency of empty tables, but the restaurant will do this itself, using its email or cell phone contact lists.  I don’t see this as advertising, or as being monetized by any intermediary. Of course, in an age before texting and email restaurants would have welcomed the all-knowing intermediary as the only mechanism available for communicating quickly with its most loyal customers. Now, restaurants have lists of their most loyal customers and can send out real time messages of interest. If the Blue Note were to text me on some night that I am in New York that it is still possible to get a table for two for Clark Terry, or Tria were to text me on a day when I was in Philadelphia that, surprisingly, there was no wait for an outdoor table right now, I’m sure I would respond to both. Of course there is no intermediary for this interaction, and this is more like direct communication than paid advertising.

The internet is about freedom, and I suspect that a truly free population will not be held captive and forced to watch ads.  We always knew that freedom comes at a price; perhaps the price of internet freedom and the failure of ads will be paying a fair price for the content and the experience and the recommendations that we value.

(Photo by nickyfern).

Update: Response to comments

OK, guys.  It’s time to calm down.  I did not insult you, your families, your religions, or your rottweilers.

I may have presented a message you did not want to hear.  Let me summarize it again, for those of you who appear to have commented on it without reading it:

  • Online advertising cannot deliver all that is asked of it.  It is going to be smaller, not larger, than it is today.  It cannot support all the applications and all the content we want on the internet.
  • And don’t worry. There are other things that can be done that will work well.
  • If you disagree with me, it would be helpful to think about the basic premises of the article and to refute them:

    • People don’t trust ads.  There is a vast literature to support this. Is it all wrong?
    • People don’t want ads.  Again, there is a vast literature to support this.  Think about your own behavior, you own channel surfing and fast forwarding and the timing of when you leave the TV to get a snack. Is it during the content or the commercials?
    • People don’t need ads.  There is a vast amount of trusted content on the net.  Again, there is literature on this.  But think about how you form your opinion of a product, from online ads or online reviews?
    • There is no shortage of places to put ads.  Competition among them will be brutal.  Prices will be driven lower and lower, for everyone but Google.

    Or you can continue to laugh, or to attack.  That does not constitute a response, and it does not help you plan for the future.  But a few parting thoughts may help you construct stronger attacks.

    • People whose experience is different from yours may still have experience.  People whose industry contacts are different from yours may still have industry contacts.
    • I’ve been attacked and ridiculed before.  I warned the floor traders in New York about the coming of online trading back in 1989 and was fired for it. I warned traditional people-based travel agents about dropping commissions and their eventual bypass through online booking systems and was ridiculed. I warned early investors in online grocery that it would not truly succeed as a mass-market offering for at least a decade and was ridiculed again. I warned investors in specific early online business-to-business exchanges, like Covisint, that sellers would not participate.  All of these ridiculed me more politely.  But most of them still cannot afford to buy me dinner now.
    • And even if you continue ridicule my piece, there are too many other professionals noticing the same thing.  Consider the recent article in the Economist on essentially the same thing: advertising cannot fully support the net.  You cannot ridicule everything you do not like off the net.

    So … those of you with commercial interests in online advertising … you can laugh at me.  You can attack me.  Or you can think about how you can protect yourselves and your companies against the changes that are going to come.

    I look forward to continued informed debate.

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    • http://www.gadgetsleuth.com Gadget Sleuth

      This is the looong version of: no one has money to spend, so the cleverness of the advertising doesn’t matter. The age where traditional banner and text ads sell things is slowly ending.

    • Hmm.

      Sensationalism anyone?

      Just a bunch of stupid-ass opinions without much backing.

      “The expected drop in internet advertising revenues this year is neither unpredictable nor unpredicted, nor was it caused solely by the general recession and the decline in retail sales”

      Much of the drop IS because of the recession. So using the recession-hit numbers to make a point about the downfall of internet advertising is lame and faulty argumentation.

      “Indeed, there has to be some way to create websites that do other than provide free access to content”

      Uh, we have subscription models yes. And when they work better than advertising, folks use it. When advertising works better, businesses use advertising. What’s your point?

      “Consumers do not trust advertising”
      “Consumers do not want to view advertising”
      “And mostly consumers do not need advertising”

      Right. And that has been true for decades yet, somehow, just somehow, advertising has survived.

      “My basic premise is that the internet is not replacing advertising but shattering it”

      YAY. Go get your techmeme headline Mr. Sensationalist. And get a lesson in logic.

    • http://www.chicfloral.com Brandon Kirkland

      The simple truth that is there is no credibilty in Advertising and business try to use it as ‘what you must do’. Advertising is meant for branding proposes.

      For example, the best buy ad up top… we know it, they are using it to brand. But as for watershed.. wtf is that? Watershed wasted money adverting because there is no credibility in that little ad up top to most people.

      To gain credibilty you create word of mouth or the buyer sees the service/product first hand… not through some cheap blinking advertisement.

      The companies with a lot of money who can afford to be up top in Google, have shown their products aren’t always the best, therefore, the evolution of what people are finding is advertisement can mean lower credibility. – In the age of information, everything moves faster… even the evolution of advertising.

    • http://www.chicfloral.com Brandon Kirkland

      ” “Consumers do not trust advertising”
      “Consumers do not want to view advertising”
      “And mostly consumers do not need advertising”

      Right. And that has been true for decades yet, somehow, just somehow, advertising has survived.”

      The author, Eric, is spot on, you obviously need a lesson in marketing.

      “YAY. Go get your techmeme headline Mr. Sensationalist. And get a lesson in logic.”

      Speaking of logic, your logic suggests that nothing changes, evolves or fails. – Your reply proves different.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shazwi_Suwandi/633792938 Shazwi Suwandi

      This is SO TRUE. I finally truely truely 100 percent believe what my friend said… Stop following the SV way, stop using ads as a revenue model…

      Have a unique selling point… Have a concrete business model… Now it starts to show that ads are really not meant to be used… Google had its glory days… That’s why it’s slowly branching out to browsers, OSes(maybe), mobile, etc. It knows the search ad medium is soon going bust.

      But hey, I really love this guy. I learned a lot in this. I will bookmark this 1000 times if I had to.

    • Erick Schonfeld

      If you want to know what watershed is, click on the ad. In fact, I suggest that everyone click on all the ads on TechCrunch and buy the advertised products and services just to prove Clemons wrong :)

    • Should Have

      Totally agree with Hmmm. What a bad post, just because this person teaches at Wharton (whooo hoooo) doesn’t make him an expert. Did you guys even review this before hitting post? If some of your advertisers read this non-sense they may stop advertising with you. A bunch of fluuuuuf. Has Prof. Clemons ever heard of re-marketing/targeting pixels?

      Eric – I am glad I didn’t have you as a prof. Do you preach subject that you cannot back up with data?

      Advertising/Marketing works – there is no such thing as bad marketing – there is good marketing (TV/Radio, etc) and better marketing (The Internet). Ask MA how he was able to move into his new offices, afford to hire staff, etc? I

      My two cents,

      Signed,

      Graduate of an SEC University

    • http://www.polemicpost.com chris

      I think internet display ads are no different from magazine ads. So I think they can work.

      But certain types of ads like interstitials or any ad that interrupts I agree is stupid. Why do they even have a skip button on interstitial ads?

      Also I think the openness of google text ads has eroded the degree of trust we have. I mean for television primetime or magazine ads at least we see big reputable companies that can afford to advertise there doing so. With google ads I can go on and put an ad up there and scam you.

      So I think the profitability of display ads should be maintained by keeping only reputable advertisers on a site, keeping the ads side by side with the content.

      And I agree ad-supported content isn’t the right revenue model for all sites. Particularly sites that have more dedicated but smaller bases should not use an ad supported model, while sites with larger bases should use one.

    • david

      perhaps your definition needs re-working…Maybe advertising hasn’t failed on the web, it simply just doesn’t cost as much to disseminate a message with Bloggers etc. picking it up for free. This would attribute the large decrease in spending and yet simultaneously wouldn’t mean advertising death, either.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shazwi_Suwandi/633792938 Shazwi Suwandi

      @Hmm. Somehow economists believe that a certain era of something ends with another era continuing where it left, in the case to adapt to the newer changes…

      Like we’ve seen, ads have been ‘surviving’ so far, well it’s time to end. Like how GM is gonna end its lame system, AIG gonna end its corruption with taxpayer’s money…

      “”Just a bunch of stupid-ass opinions without much backing.”"

      Do you have backing then?

    • http://www.anyluckyday.com Giancarlo Massaro, AnyLuckyDay.com

      I agree with you in a way, that advertising within certain branches or areas will no longer be as successful as it used to be. I’ve felt this way about advertising for quite some time and especially with all the ad blocking programs people are starting to use, advertising revenue is just going down hill. I do not use ad blocking programs, however, I simply go to websites to read the content and then get out of there, never do I find myself clicking ads and I think that as more and more people become accustomed to this, revenue will continue to fall.

    • http://www.polemicpost.com chris

      Also I the internet is more capable of producing special interest sites. It’s much easier to start a website than to publish a magazine, and so there is a lot more options for specific targetting, which makes ads worth more on the internet and more valuable to companies.

      One of the biggest problems on the internet is that along with more sites comes more advertisers. An ad block, let’s take a google ad block, can be held by anyone. But that ad block will be held by less reputable services most of the time. So then more reputable services who advertise in the same block will now have a less valuable ad placement.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dror_Engel/509836543 Dror Engel

      great article

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Yarin_Hochman/1035689872 Yarin Hochman

      Way too long, TC should have some sort of executive briefing for such long posts in 3-5 lines that will sum up the main message

    • http://me.com Gonzo

      Hey Professor, online advertising will be bigger than any other form of advertising and in a few years your students will find this article on a search engine and make jokes about you. Just my opinion :-)

    • http://blog.buysellads.com todd g @ buysellads.com

      thank you. all I got from this post was something I knew very well already… targeting sucks.

      so, the recession has lead to two things:

      1. national brands who were buying a ton of ads at ridiculous prices are no longer doing this because the economy sucks and now there is a ton of excess inventory on huge sites where targeting is really really hard.

      2. sites like TechCrunch and ANY OTHER vertical specific sites where you don’t need targeting because the content provides the targeting are still selling a ton of ads. sure, they might not be getting ridiculous CPM’s anymore, but that more a function of the economic situation & demand (not because advertising is failing).

      all of these “the world is going to end advertising is dying” posts are getting a bit lame. no kidding, we need a little innovation (as do most industries), but online advertising is growing and there’s a good chance it will stay that way for a long long long long long long time. Don’t use the economy to distort the true picture.

    • reader

      How much did this idiot wharton prof paid for posting (or should i say advertising) a dummy post such as this on techcrunch?

    • http://sw.tearn.com/ DJ Chang

      In 1968, MIT and Wharton competed in econometrics, so this new battle with Wharton is welcomed. I’m MIT educated.

      This is the ramblings of an academic with no first-hand experience. I have the top blog for ‘Economics of Advertising’ at http://adecon101.blogspot.com and a network of publisher sites. BTW, Internet is a proper noun by convention and should be capitalized.

      Let’s see:

      - Agencies don’t know how to push the right message through the right mediums.
      - Web publishers don’t know how to monetize through advertising and need to change to charging for content, services, whereever we can make a buck.

      In broad strokes, Mr. Clemons has struck at millions of passionate innovators in advertising and publishing.

      Rubish. Let’s get back to work on the real Internet.

    • doubtful

      Google. Thus I refute.

    • http://www.kayodemuyibi.com Kayode Muyibi

      I think ads, especially internet based ones are not launched by advertisers to earn per click or even per visit conversion on their target market, rather they are more of an effort to brand the advertisers products or services over time.

      I.e getting the message across that product or services exists to the intended audience etc.

      You might patronize today or perhaps recommend to your friends or maybe even patronize the products or services in the future.

      I doubt any internet advertiser can actually convert all their advertisement budget to a per product or per service direct expense, and still be profitable on that particular unit used in that conversion.

    • http://wildblueheaven.net Ric

      “Marketing has existed since the serpent sold a piece of fruit to Eve and will continue as long as people need to eat…”
      ~Ric

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    • http://www.constantlycomplaining.com/blog ryanol

      Linkbait much?

      What a joke advertising is dead??? So I take it techcrunch is a running in the red. Eyeballs are and will always be worth something…true generic eyeballs might not be worth as much as they were in the NY time or a superbowl ad. That said my ability to market directly to some one looking for “small blue wdgets in indiana” online is worth far more to me as a small blue widget maker than a display advertisement in a print media in indianapolis.

      I just don’t get the sales/advertising hate…creating content/products takes resources, time, money etc…to think that content/products are created entirely for altruistic motivations is naive.

    • http://professionallocator.ning.com AdvertisingLocator.com

      do not trust advertising – there is nothing wrong with the positive promotion of quality goods and services. as long as you can deliver on your promise. wise consumers know this.

      do not want to view advertising – they always want a deal incentive ads bring.

      do not need advertising – consumers clutch to incentive based ads that trustingly bring value.

      internet search is dead.
      internet location is everything.

    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      Three words

      Ad blocker plus

      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865

      544,316 weekly downloads
      44,009,754 total downloads

      44 million people can’t be wrong.

    • jeff

      Dear Professor, get out in the real world for a few years before you make such silly claims..

      you might even get a date with a girl too!

    • Hmm

      Yep if you are going to argue that the end of advertising is coming, the burder is on YOU prove it. Cuz, well, there is little evidence of that.

      This is coming from a guy who personally dislikes ad-based models of running startups. Yet, my personal dislike does not mean that I am delusional about the reality of the ad industry…which is several times larger than the software industry.

      I read somewhere that the software industry in all is about 80B and how microsoft is jealous of google being in a 300B ad industry.

      And if you want to argue that what is happening to AIG will happen to the ad industry, well, again, why? Simply because you think so? Uh, ok.

    • http://socialapp.wordpress.com Ashu

      This is a really good read. I found this other article on the web that other reader’s might find useful ….

      http://scobleizer.com/2009/03/21/why-facebook-has-never-listened-and-why-it-definitely-wont-start-now/

    • Alex

      Chris, thank you for the voice of a grown-up in the geekdom of kids.

      My respect.

    • http://www.imageco.com/ ImageCo

      Advertising is failing on the web because the traditional heavy handed approach to advertising isn’t effective.

      People aren’t passive spectators any more so they won’t stand still to be sold to even if they do want to buy.

    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      I can’t do that. My Ad blocker plus firefox add on does not allow me to view those advertisements, rendering them useless.

      Oh, they still get their OpenX impression ticker incremented, they are just never seen. LOLZZZZ

    • http://alsargent.wordpress.com Al Sargent

      Interesting post, Eric. Do you believe strongly enough in your “Death of Advertising” thesis to bet on GOOG stock going down significantly? If so, it would be great to hear more about that.

    • http://www.smartbloggerz.com Typhoon

      Some people are seeing drop in their advertising sales but some are not having much effect..I have seen increase in my advertising sales :)

      http://www.smartbloggerz.com

    • http://socialmode.com/2009/03/22/no-really-why-advertising-is-failing-online/ No, really why advertising is failing online… « Social Mode

      [...] 22, 2009 by un1crom Despite the impressive length,  a recent TechCrunch feature on the failure of internet advertising fails to reveal what’s really destroying the ad model [...]

    • http://blog.dapper.net/?p=134 Conversations with Ads » Response to Eric Clemons’ “Why Advertising is Failing on The Internet”

      [...] I have to agree with the premise of Eric Clemons’ insightful guest post on TechCrunch today. [...]

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin_Doohan/1820219 Kevin Doohan

      Article is lame and long. Linkbait 4 sure.

      Advertising works. Always has, always will. It will change by degrees as the internet evolves but advertising is not being shattered.

    • Christine

      I think that you are right and wrong at the same time in both your general assertion that the internet will destroy advertising and in the reasons why.
      I think you are not fully on the mark when you say that we do not want to watch advertising. We don’t mind advertising per se, as the success of some of these TV shows that show nothing but weird and wonderful ads from around the world has shown.
      Nor do we have no need for and categorically mistrust advertising. Most of the time, yes. But not always. A good campaign that fulfills at least some of the target audience’s needs can be of service to them and make them go out and buy something. For example, if you are in the market for an item and are told that it is available at a good price somewhere, you may seriously consider going there even if this wasn’t your original plan.
      And yet I see a fundamental flaw in the way advertising operates: It is disruptive. When I am watching TV or using my e-mail, I do not want some company forcing me to stop what I’m doing to listen what they have to say. It is rude and would not be tolerated in face-to-face interaction. Imagine you’re in a restaurant chatting to your friends and a complete stranger walks up to the table and in a moment of silence blurts out: “Are you looking for cheaper car insurance?” It really wouldn’t matter if you were, you’d not put up with him.
      And for that very reason we have devised advertisement avoidance tools: Recording devices that let us skip TV ads, blocking software that filters it out on websites, spam filters etc. And let’s not forget one of the reasons why Twitter is loved while Google, Facebook and others are met with increasing suspicion: They are not trying to turn users into consumers (something that was, according to one of my previous employers, online advertising’s raison d’etre). They don’t pester you with commercial rubbish. They don’t interrupt your conversation.
      Does that mean there is no advertising going on there? Far from it. But it has moved away from the outdated offline model of disrupting conversations to a model that is more suitable to the Web 2.0 and more gentle on the people it is trying to reach. (Sorry, I hate the term user.) So in my opinion the Internet will indeed destroy traditional advertising. But at the same time, it may actually open the doors to new forms of advertising that will finally manage to add value to the lives of its audience (whether by entertaining them, giving them information they need or saving them money) rather than just sustaining an industry that does not see eye to eye with them.

    • Joe

      Has Mr. Clemons actually run a successful ad funded content site? I thought this was a startlingly naive piece. Advertising is hear to stay, if anything the Web enables more slippery types of ads that are difficult to avoid.

      Successful CPA (where you are paid on a task or buy being completed) ads prove that Web adveritsing can be very profitable for advertising and publishers, users are influenced by it and with CPA that can be measured directly. Same with cost per click and affilaite schemes.

      I am not sure why the article is written as if advertising is something new on the Web. It seems to have been doing fine for years. Ups and downs sure and you certainly cannot ape a print setup online and expect the same revenues….but costs are lower and advertsing can adapt in more directions.

      I think the article also underestimates how difficult it would be to get people to pay for content they are used to reading for free. The wide access to mutliple publications that the Web enables means it is even less likely someone will pay for access to just one. I guess a generation is growing up who expect to read mutliple versions of a story from different outlets/view points for free. There are a host of sites who exist just to aggregate for that purpose.

      People hailing the rise of adblockers seem unaware how if they got their wish it would cut their nose to spite their face.

      If Mr. Clemons actually went out and got some real experience running a large ad-funded website then he might realise the sky is not falling just yet.

    • http://cokto.sk/iggy iggy

      so basically , yes this is long, advertising no good , but something that will help me make choices is necessary , hey but isnt advertising exactly about this , you dont have to book a hotel on hotels.com , you dont have to visit the thai restaraunt that pops out on your cell , BUT YOU CAN !
      P.S.
      i would personally prefer image ads , banners that do not have a click trough i mean you dont click on your tv add why you should on a banner ?

    • foobert

      Great research. I’m truly puzzled.

      All those arguments about a USP — how funny. You realize that consumers don’t want to spend, spend, spend. And then look at Hulu where people accept ads in exchange for TV shows.

      There’s nothing wrong with promotion per se. A lot of people don’t do it right though. Just cause your Google Adsense brings in 10 bucks a month, that doesn’t suggest the entire model is bound for failure.

      Most of advertising will be transferred online. There are two simple reasons: Because people respond to it and because it works for advertisers. Guess you didn’t come across that during your research.

      I wish people would stop calling things dead just because they don’t know how to use them effectively.

      As for your alternatives:

      I’m horrified — you suggest we all sell content? I have yet to see all the premium content people want to sell.

      Selling access to social communities — I want to see that. Facebook wants all your data and then charges you for it. Good one. Also, there are fundamental differences between WoW and communities like Facebook.

      And your 3rd is the biggest joke of them all. It’s like online gaming is our last hope?

      I hope that students at Wharton are kept far away from you. If I had a kid in your department, I’d have him switch to another school.

      I summarize that your #1 argument is that “your research has shown”, but I suggest you look at some real world examples where the advertising model works. If you need pointers, I have left my email.

    • http://www.dailypatricia.com Patricia

      I disagree. The world hasn’t changed, just the platform.

      I actually only find bad and excessive ads bothersome. Otherwise, it helps me find what I need/want in the market. I don’t want to spend 30 min in the bakery aisle at Whole Foods trying to figure out what bread to buy. Recommendations are too individual for me. I think within reason a lot of consumers would agree with this.

      Also, whether people realize it or not, advertisers are essentially splitting the tab with consumers for good content. I don’t think removing them out of the equation is a good idea. I don’t want to pay more. I wish people would stop trying to tear down the model and help find a healthy balance and ecosystem online instead.

    • http://hervalicio.us/blog herval

      if I ever got a mobile advertising like the one preached by mr. expert, I’d sue the hell out of my mobile carrier and whoever is reading my sms, emails and location to send me sh*tty spam all day long…
      (that said, I suppose we’ll start seeing a lot of that kind of crap advertising raising in the coming years… *sigh*)

    • http://incogna.com Edward Newell

      “It’s not that we no longer need information to initiate or to complete a transaction; rather, we will no longer need advertising to obtain that information. We will see the information we want, when we want it, from sources that we trust more than paid advertising.”

      Ads are not going to disappear, neither on fed media like tv, nor requested media like the internet. However, I think he’s made a good point: ads loose impact when we have on-demand access to trusted information, and ads will never be trusted.

    • http://www.feedtofocus.tv Mark Evans

      I agree with Eric’s arguments almost entirely; he states the obvious. However, a couple of points to consider:

      - Paid search, i.e., Google model:

      Although ultimately unsustainable, it’ll continue to be massively profitable for many years to come; even as a legacy model.

      Why?

      -People understand it
      -Companies do get OK ROI
      -Branding happens
      -Google owns it

      It won’t die as quickly a death as the offline ad world has.

      As far as a future ad model replacement, IMHO, social search… I’d pay $5 a month for a FriendFeed to have a killer way for me to search product info from sites like Amazon and then share it with my personal “trusted community”.

    • Bob

      Everyone can’t be Google. Refute, rejected.

    • Prad Nelluru

      Keep in mind that one person can download the addon multiple times.

    • http://twitter.com/smashing Alx Klive

      Advertising on the Internet does work and will continue to work and more effectively than anything that’s come before. The suggestion that we will ultimately get everything through recommendation engines, review sites or do everything our friends do is flawed. New products and services come along daily and need to be advertised (for people to find them). Maybe I want to find something new and not what my friends have done? Maybe I want a company with the perfect product for me to think about the exact keyword combination I’ll be searching for and find me?

    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      keep in mind that they probably don’t

      Keep in mind that pretty soon nobody will be viewing these advertisements.

      The correct way to advertise in the digital world is the same way as in the traditional world.

      Google, for a moment, allowed this alternate advertising reality to persist. The hole is closing on that reality and we will see a new reality closer to that we knew before ad blocking technologies started to take over the web.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy_Robinowitz/500031281 Andy Robinowitz

      Maybe the next article will be something about Operations and Information Management written by a Professor in Marketing at Wharton?

      I see your points and have heard most of them plenty of times before. I think you are wrong, you might not like it, but advertising on the internet can and does work. Advertising has supported and therefore enabled more innovation on the web then paid applications.

    • http://www.tomacoconea.com Toma Coconea

      sounds like a lot of guessing using second hand information, the fact is internet trends are not predictable!

    • http://www.kalydo.com Doki Tops

      Great article but I think the real problem is different:
      IMHO the biggest problem with advertising on the web is this:

      - Web usage grows exponentially
      - Just about everthing runs on advertisement income.
      - All advertisement has sales as a final target (Brand building is a means to create more sales)
      - People don’t have an income that grows exponentially.
      - Hence advertisement on the web becomes less effective.

      In the early days this wasn’t so apparent because the growth of new users on the web could keep up but right now the apps and their usage grows much faster than new users in the system. Thus advertisment needs SOOO many views to even create some notion to the end user.

      Imagine tv with 500 different beer commercials. People would go mad. But this is exactly what the web is and makes people incensitive.

      Just my five cents. I think if we want to sell something we need to add value and have a real proposition. But the consumer wants things for free but doesn’t want to pay this will normalize but its a legacy from the old web where everything was done for free & ads could compensate all. Ads will remain but their power will diminish and paid content permission will grow again.

      Wow a long one.

    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      Here is the bottom line.

      Advertisements have no weight on the internet as they do in traditional media. No matter how much you optimize your placements for X customer, they are blind to the advert after years of exposure.

      The weight of an advert on TV or in Newspapers determined it’s effectiveness. People are not ad blind to these adverts because they are not bombarded *enough* by them or at least not on the frequency that they are on the internet, if they are not using ad blocking technology.

      MySpace is probably the closest platform to emulating advertising weight in the digital form to date.

      Bargain and coupon sites are also very effective today as an alternate form of advertising.

    • Dave

      This is why I rarely listen with both ears to business professors. Either they never worked in the corporate world or it’s been a while. We all know that business moves pretty quickly. So much so that all the “experience” many professors bring with them to the classroom is outdated within a couple years. This whole article is a case in point.

      Advertising will never die, regardless of the medium. Companies will go under. Products will fail. Blah, blah, blah. But advertising will never die, and the reason why is that everybody wants something. It doesn’t matter how you sling the hash as long as everyone’s getting fed.

      The other thing to consider is this. Everybody’s falling all over themselves to take advantage of Web 2.0 – I swear to God if another client asks for “some Web 2.0″ again, none of this will matter since I’ll be rotting away in jail – and social marketing. You know what another word for all that is? Advertising.

      The concept doesn’t change, only the delivery method. It will always be with us.

    • http://www.rhxo.com Mesut Darendeli

      Sorry to say that but this is nonsense Professor. Online advertising is and will be much bigger than any other form. It is a wrong place to give that kind of opinions because many of the people you see here have more experience than you do about the impacts of the internet. So you better analyze your ideas and do some research (I’m sure you’re pretty good at it) about it.

      Once this article is indexed by Google, your ideas about advertisement will be potential material to make fun of!

    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      In other words like a virus, most people have spent enough time on the internet now to have built up the necessary anti-bodies to ignore just about anything, even disparte content related to the content they are browsing.

      That is why google is trying to get people’s INTENT.

      Google bought doubleclick because of this.

      Scanning the page content to place ads is no longer enough. they know people are largely blind to this now. Now they want to have large scale tracking in order to determine your intent across disparate pages on the internet.

      This is the future, and only Google has access to it, largely because of it’s massive scope.

      So with that, even intent based advertising will eventually fall to the same human reaction.

      With that said, other revenue forms will start to take hold.

    • http://culturalcapitalism.com dag

      another ivory tower ‘thesis’ that has no ground in reality….no one will read your stupid blog if you charge access…ITS JUST NOT WORTH PAYING FOR…that’s the euphemism this guy misses…

    • http://www.cluetrain.com/ Howard Feight

      The included link is to a book presently reading with much insight.

      People are the ones that will make the necessary changes, not gov’t, internet, or advertisers.

    • Martin

      Erick, I understand that advertising is essential for TC to survive, but I find the ads very annoying and would never click on them.
      In fact I magnify the screen on Firefox [ctrl +] until the ads disappear – and I’m not the only one doing this.
      With the exception of the spammer’s comments, the content is what really counts.

    • http://www.davidtan.org DavidTan

      That just represents *some* people who uses firefox . What about the rest who uses IE, opera, safari and chrome?

    • http://www.ambitonline.com/nextrelease Alan Langford

      What is it with this binary works or fails crap?

      What the Internet is proving is that the Advertising industry has been successfully selling snake oil for decades.

      Advertising works, but nowhere near as effectively as we’ve been led to believe. Now that we can measure return on investment, we have a better idea of what it’s actually worth. Lots of businesses, even entire industries that were predicated on this “value bubble” will fail. Others will emerge in their place.

      Over time, new approaches to advertising will be tried and tested. Some, like “misdirection”, will fail. Others may prove more effective.

      Advertising will evolve, not fail. Considering how badly it sucks now, that can only be a good thing.

    • http://thewayoftheweb.net/2009/03/interesting-summary-of-why-online-advertising-is-failing/ TheWayoftheWeb » Interesting summary of why online advertising is failing

      [...] Interesting summary of why online advertising is failing Dan Thornton | March 22, 2009 There’s an interesting summary of the reasons why the current advertising model is unlikely to survive over at Techcrunch. [...]

    • http://smartbabesaresexy.blogspot.com Smart Babes Are Sexy Blog

      I think the analysis is a bit simpler.

      Ultimately someone pays the bills.

      Up to now and for most online, non e-commerce sites, that someone has been the advertiser.

      As the economy tanks, these advertisers no longer exist or have much less to spend.

      Supply of advertising goes down = amount of dollars available for publishing sites goes down.

      So the thesis on the death of advertising is probably premature … I am sure when the economy picks up again, advertising will pick up again.

      That said, the professor is right that online properties definitiely need to dversify away from advertising. Take China’s Tencent for example … you may not have heard of it, but they just did $1 billion of revenue, of which only a small minority has been advertising.

    • http://www.twitter.com/AlexinHouston AlexinHouston

      I’m just a regular guy that uses the internet, and I’m telling you. I never click on banners, google ads, etc. When I want something, I research it and use the information from trusted sources to help make my purchasing decision.

    • Neno Brown

      People will put up with ads even if they are not relevent to their needs, especially if it means free content,

      Ads are not about instant sales there more about brand recognision, and stamping that recognision in peoples hearts and mind, so should you later have a need for a product or service, i’m sure one will come to mind.

    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      What if the internet saw socialism ???

      What if rich areas were forced to pay a high fee to access thousands of websites’ content on X block of IPs ???

      This would be determined by their source IP address.

      What if that happened and the websites made a profit based off of their flat hits.

      What if CDNs’ roll was reversed. What if CDNs paid content creators?

      These questions are the questions of the future.

    • http://AMTbaseball. Tim Triplett

      You are making some very broad based assumptions and trying to prove your case by “assuming” there is no innovation or entrepreneurial spirit left in advertising.

      We are not socialists yet sir.

      Content IS King…That holds true for advertising as well sir. IF you deliver what advertising the consumer wants, WHEN THEY WANT IT…you will NOT be intruding but empowering the consumer.

      Yes IF you bombard them with junk it becomes noise just like most TV/radio/print ads. BTW, Newspapers are failing because they no longer print NEWS they only print COMMENTARY. There is no balanced journalism. THAT is why people no longer subscribe. On the internet people can chose to read what supports their own position much easier. So if they disagree they just click over to something else.

      Advertising on the internet will become THE medium. It will grow, not at insane CAGR but at reasonable ones. The ad rates will vary WILDLY, because of the medium but it will be THE ONLY way to reach those extremely important micro-segments that will make all the difference. AND THAT sir is where the future is.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex_Tayra/1259743098 Alex Tayra

      4) AdBlock

    • http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/ David Dalka

      Too bad he didn’t discuss organic search(and it’s massive role in this), the concept of relevancy or how content is potentially the new advertising…if he had I’d engage in a deeper conversation.

    • http://www.thepomoblog.com Terry Heaton

      Mr. Clemons raises interesting points, and I certainly agree with some of them, but I also agree with Hmmm that most people haven’t “wanted” advertising for a long time. There are several problems with the argument presented.

      One, the Web is spectacular at putting consumers together with businesses, and I would argue that ways to do that are “advertising.” Mr. Clemons is smart to offer his own definition of advertising, but its narrowness makes debate difficult.

      Two, the Web hasn’t been allowed to develop its own form of advertising, because the print media raced to get their paradigms in place before anybody else had a chance. Display advertising on the Web is awful. Jakob Nielsen has proven that nobody sees these kinds of ads. A Web document isn’t a “page,” in the print sense. There is no “fold.” Banners and skycrapers are all print terms. So I think we’ve yet to see the ideal for web advertising.

      Three, all-or-nothing statements don’t do a lot of good in these discussions. They make for nice copy, but really. I mean, c’mon, professor. I don’t think the Web is very good at brand advertising, but some businesses are finding at least some success.

      I just think we need to give things time, and remember that, as Seth Godin writes, the word “connect” is the key to making money on the Web. Connect businesses with consumers? You bet.

    • http://blogwhatdesign.com Lara

      This is not only a terribly written article, it’s filled with BS rhetoric.

      Provide something with actual substance. “Advertising” is not going to die.

    • http://www.steveplunkett.com @steveplunkett

      sounds like a great argument FOR organic search engine optimization… thanks..

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    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      In Canada the government takes everybody’s money and incentive to continue living and puts everyone on welfare and has them live with subsidies.

      Eventually people give up and accept it because they tell themselves they can’t do better.

      Why can’t we apply this model to the internet and take projects and websites that have failed and give them welfare ???

      Keeping them online and highly available indefinitely in a reduced state?

    • http://exposedplanet.com Harry, ExposedPlanet.com

      To everybody reading this far into the comments: ask yourself: how many advertisements on top of this page can you recall?

      It is the people who change, while the ads stays the same. Our minds now works as a spatial TIVO, ignoring useless info (ads) while picking up the data we came for (editorial).

      Then again, how did you get here in the first place ;-)

      Cheers,
      Harry
      http://twitter.com/exposedplanet

    • Hmm

      Rest assured, you are not the average consumer.

    • http://richardmuscat.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/advertising-optimisation-and-adaptation/ Advertising, Optimisation and Adaptation « Serious Simplicity

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    • http://richardmuscat.wordpress.com/ Richard Muscat

      While I don’t agree completely with everything, the guy is probably right in some fundamental respects.

    • http://serrynaimo.com serrynaimo

      I’m pretty sure that a lot of the online-ad downturn results out of the current economic situation.

      Advertising will survive, because advertising will get smarter. Here you find only one way this is going to happen: http://www.serrynaimo.com/blog/2008/12/28/social-advertising-thoughts-about-diggs-future.html

    • http://www.leadsexplorer.com LEADSExplorer

      @all – Question to all of you above:
      Who clicks on online advertising links?

      Probably nobody of all of you.

      Guess what: you are not alone.
      Thus if you ignore advertsing, more people ignore it too.
      Online advertising isn’t that effective anymore.
      We all have become educated in the matter of using the Internet.

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    • Hmm

      Let’s say EVERY consumer on the Internet downloaded it.

      And let’s also say this causes google’ ad revenue to reach $0.00.

      And let’s say this causes google to shutdown.

      Something has to give at this point…

      Either the consumers will realize that ads are not so bad. Or the consumers will say ads are bad but we will pay $4.99 to use google.com.

      I love how folks make it seem like it is all the WEBSITE OWNER’S fault to be using ad model. Hey, the ad model means a free service for the consumer. And if you are saying the ad model is going to fail, then you must also be saying that IMPORTANT services consumers use will become paid OR die…hurting the CONSUMER.

    • Eric

      OMG you are so TOTALLY owning them all!! HAHAHA, they are all idiots and you’re sooo much smarter!!!

      Cretin.

    • Eric

      Newsflash – they already know this. The reason advertising thrives is because even though 90% of viewers are like you, 10% interact with the ads and that 10% is more than adequate to create a hefty profit margin.

      Learn some stats :)

    • Bill

      Advertising may annoy people but there are a LOT of people out there depending on ad revenue to pay for important things such as prescriptions/health care.

      I have a disease and the prescriptions alone cost $500/month. My decline in ad revenue is partially due to the economy, but also due to the ineffectiveness of formats like Google Adsense.

      When you don’t click on someone’s ad you literally are hurting them. They have no incentive to create more great articles like this one. Yeah I know you don’t want to click on an ad.

      But realize when you do you are helping stimulate the economy… and you might be killing someone if you don’t… literally.

      Can’t we all help each other out at least until we can get through this mess?

    • http://twitter.com/silvaldropout silicon valley dropout

      very long winded and rather boring. no more guest post from wharton.

    • Eric

      You seem to be the kind of person who likes to hear themselves talk. I say this because you could have gotten your point across just as effectively by using less than a quarter of the words you used.

      The post is way too long. Trim it for more effectiveness.

    • Eric

      Learn to stay on topic.

    • http://tagfor.me Ron Shairm

      For sure Advertising will not die

    • Eric

      Alex, you are definitely in the minority. The large chunk of ppl who use the internet are not like you.

      And thankfully so.

    • AndreaF

      At personal level I tend to agree with Eric, because I don’t like advertising, I don’t click on banners and I find very annoying the pop ups and similar tricks. However, I think that the reality is the following: advertising will not disappear completely but it will become more and more difficult for it to be effective and agencies will have to come up with with new ways of promoting goods; e.g. I remember a funny scene from Back to the Future where the hologram of a shark appears in the middle of the street and ‘swallows’ a passer by…
      I think the important point is that a very small number of businesses (google being one example) will be able to survive if their main or only business model is based on advertising. Advertising can account perhaps for 20-30% of revenues at most. The rest needs to come from other ways of monetization like subscriptions, commissions or the selling of real and virtual goods. Advertising is not dead but it’s not feeling that well either.

    • Bill

      Also, you can FORGET selling content and software online. People will simply steal your content and software.

      the Internet is gonna die

    • http://tweeter.wetheadmedia.com Wet Head

      I could not agree more, If people had money the ads would be back, who are we kidding.

      He writes the article as if we all had money we wouldn’t spend it on advertising, come on come on !

      Good article , just way long winded for sure !

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lily_Rei/500083928 Lily Rei

      many ads on techcrunch too

    • Bill

      Dude, this article is a piece of garbage. But, a lot of people will read it so I’m going to go ahead and copy it, put it on my own web site and sell access to it for 99 cents.

    • http://www.gadget.com Tony

      What you spell out is 100% true, it was true 50 years ago when TV started. What people saw on TV was best and people purchased it. People then said the exact same thing about advertisers and the channels that published them.

      The companies that advertised the most won.

      That didn’t make the advertising any less effective.

      What everyone forgets advertising is effective even bad advertising.

      The basic truth will come forward again, those who don’t advertise will fail.

      Finding the best platform to advertise on is the problem.

      People want to be told what to buy, as long as they don’t get cheated. They will like it.

      IMHO

    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      If this ever comes to fruition forget RSS or any automated content to exponentially multiply the revenue.

      Only manually created content will be allowed past a human approval mechanism.

      People will have to manually work for their internet welfare “cheque” in this paradigm.

    • Zaq W

      Advertising is the most efficient way to expose people to a message. It’s that simple. Ads may not be effective as the buyer would like, but they’ll never be as long as you control your own mind.

      As far as finding other ways to generate revenue… having something to sell, something that people want is the best. But you’ll probably buy advertising at some level to build your brand and “get the word out”.

    • Ben

      I think there is a bit of misconception here.
      It seems we are currently in an interesting turn point where the content of the web is dramatically changing (more dynamic, concise, less controlled and created by large organizations) but the existing advertisement tools are not ready to handle such a change.
      Several companies had in fact identified this. Specifically, I had the chance to work with ContextIn (http://www.contextin.com) who has a unique approach for handling display ads both for targeting and more interestingly, managing of my traffic.
      I believe such companies would take over more and more portions of web advertising that way.

    • http://www.gadget.com Tony

      You just did some GREAT advertising yourself.

      I have an iPhone and an iPod but I have never used the little white earbuds, preferring instead to purchase a pair of Shure E500 phones that I think sound vastly superior.

      Did you get a fee for that AD placement? Make and Model in a investigative post, with authority, the other headphones suck.

      To bad we can’t check amazon to see how many addional searches were done on Shure E500. Mike might be able to get that info as important as he is in the valley, I am sure he can.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people//61202384 fb61202384

      Agreed. The post contained a lot of waffle despite being a good read.

      The summary might also help the author get their point across more effectively.

    • http://www.skedet.com Tedeks

      Although I think he makes some good points about people not needing advertising….but only for certain items. There are definitely times when advertising is very helpful as you aren’t looking for that thing at any specific time.

    • Ramirez

      Where are the ads? I can’t see them here?! Wait, let me check with IE8 ;)

    • http://www.pjbrunet.com/ Ferodynamics

      Publishers can actually do better than free.

      We can start sharing the billions of advertising dollars with the users. What a concept. This is why Google is rich!

      Don’t be so greedy and you’ll make more money.

    • http://www.skedet.com Tedeks

      So I thought this was a pretty good article and definitely worth the read. It seems to me like advertising money has definitely been reduced, however still a pretty solid way to make money. I also think there is a huge area of innovation here to come up with new ways to hit your audience. Content is still the value on the web, so if we can figure out how to monazite the content by advertising or some other form of marketing, you will be very successful.

    • Joe Pesci

      Advertising is the first thing cos cut down on in trying to maintain their margins. got nothing to do with internet or anything.
      -JP
      http://hopedworaczykphotos.blogspot.com

    • http://legaltalknetwork.com Lu Ann Reeb

      Tough crowd! As a former TV journalist and now the owner of 2 new media companies, I think two things: First, we are in transition with regard to the rejection of online ads. Prof. Clemons is correct, I think, that consumers of online content are annoyed by push ads in their current form. The level to which people are willing to be annoyed depends on how much they want to watch/listen/read the content. Most people are searching for information (pull) and do NOT want ads shoved in their faces while they are searching for content. Secondly, traditional media (an industry in which I spent a 20-yr career) taught the audience certain habits – endure commercials embedded in the programs that viewers/listeners actively opted in to consume. It was worth it then (in the Reagan years of TV & Radio) until technology gave us options like TiVo & DVR. Now everyone is an on-demand audience – new habits. Now we have pop-up blockers, spam filers, email verification software and all kinds of handles to keep annoying ads away from our path. So I think we are seeing an evolution and revolution in advertising, probably no different than when radio ads became TV ads. And one final, comment, I do believe Prof. Clemons deserves more respect than some of the comments here have displayed. Take a quick look at his CV and maybe you’ll get it and keep an open mind.

    • Ken

      Prof
      In your world I would have to pay a fee to read your article. If your research is poorly supported by facts and I end up having to pay for just your ill informed opinion then I have been screwed.

      At least with advertising I can see what I am getting into before I part with money!

    • http://parislemon.com/2009/03/on-web-ads.html ParisLemon » On Web Ads

      [...] an interesting guest post on TechCrunch called “Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet“, with some great points, such as: “It’s not that we no longer need information to [...]

    • http://www.ferodynamics.com/ Ferodynamics

      Martin, you’ll notice a Media Temple ad in the sidebar. Click that ad and get yourself a website.

    • http://www.othersonline.com Jordan Mitchell

      Well wait, does it actually?

      Here’s the thing. There is clearly support for both sides of the argument — that online advertising works, and no it doesn’t.

      If it DIDN’T work, then there wouldn’t be a market at all. $25B markets aren’t grown over 10-15 years time on speculation – it has to be providing value in SOME way! So clearly online advertising works!

      That said, the naysayers would be absolutely correct in pointing out that average click-through rates are less than .2% — just 1-2 clicks per thousand views of each ad. Which implies a 99.8% failure rate! How can ANYONE feel that online advertising works with that great of a demonstrable failure rate?

      Point is — it’s a bullshit debate which goes nowhere.

    • http://texvc.com aziz gilani

      its telling that eric is an ops professor and not an advertising or marketing prof.

    • http://joeduck.com/2009/03/22/will-internet-advertising-fail/ Will Internet Advertising Fail? « Joe Duck

      [...] the Wharton School of Business has written a provocative post over at TechCrunch called ” Why Adveritsing is Failing on the Internet“.      It’s a very interesting perspective even though – very surprising to me – Dr. [...]

    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      Imagine if several DNS “zones” with several thousands of custom websites lived had a Swisscom Euronet style redirect to a payment page before logging in???

      The way porn sites give access to 40 or so websites with network access keys.

      Each content provider in this network paradigm makes pennies on the dollar.

      This is the new Google. This is So33t CDN. This is coming soon. So33t mobile is something different.

    • http://martin-jackson.blogspot.com Martin Jackson

      the problem with relying on selling things online is the internet culture around the ideal that things should be free.

      I think ads work online, put as you pointed out one needs to take into account the medium and people likes and dislikes.

      example pop-ups don’t work well because people are annoyed by them and just close them if the a pop-up ad gets past their software made to block them.

      another thing to look at is that many advertising programs online only pay sites when the ads work…ie when someone clicks the link (and in some cases when they click and buy something) other forms of media advertisers pay depending on how many people see the ad, even if they don’t know if the ad lead to a sell or not. In this set up it makes since why tv/radio/print mediums make more money on ads then sites.

    • http://buhlerworks.com/wordpress Joe Buhler

      The article makes some points that were first made by Seth Godin a number of years ago, namely that interruption marketing is ineffective and that has been proven by the dismal performance of most banner advertising. What’s recently been proven also is that it works even less in social media. That will not mean the total disappearance of advertising but the attempt to make it more relevant in content and time of delivery.

      The examples he presents from travel are valid as recommendations by friends have always been the most influential there, especially for hotels and destinations, far more than advertising.

    • thomas
    • http://tinycomb.com jason@tinycomb.com

      Clemons, if you think that the internet is going to be some ad-free ecosytem in the near future, you’re completely wrong. You represent the type of liberal (not to say I am different), DIGG using type person (with Ad-Blocker) that is too smart for the advertising and thus can find many ways to pick apart why it’s not working. Well, don’t forget that the very content you just wrote is being monetized at this very second, whether you like it or not and the site that published it (TechCrunch), needs the money so it can continue to push quality content (unlike what you just wrote). You can’t just come out and trash every aspect of internet advertising and the freemium models that exist. I’ll give you 3 reasons why you are out of line. I can give you more at another time.

      1. Don’t talk about Second Life as if it is a model to followed. Things like selling virtual goods is not a a direction everyone can follow, just as you said not everyone can buy their keywords on Google, so it is not a sustainable or scalable business model. Are you nuts? First of all, you openly admit you are not a part of a virtual community, so how do you know you would pay for goods and this is a model to be copied? SecondLife isn’t even doing well. You are a part of the content community, and seem to easily be able to bash the idea that you would ever interact with someone’s display ad. Get a life.

      2. People do not trust advertising? Look at the ads surrounding your article. Is there one company or brand that you don’t recognize? No. So, what is so untrustworthy about any of these ads. And what kind of sites are these ads on that make people not want to trust them? Is it TechCrunch, is it Hulu, is it some random site no one has ever heard of? Such a general statement with little substance.

      3. You would be equally happy to purchase a search service? What kind of Roger McNamee, acid-trip-palm-pre-will-succeed, type BS is this statement? It’s the same ingenious concept that if Facebook were to charge $1 a month, they would be making a killing. Not going to happen, not intelligent, and would certainly be a flop.

      I just want to say that for a Wharton professor, you clearly don’t understand what monetization strategies are working on the Internet. I actually began to laugh when you started talking about mobile contextual advertising, as if you know what the future beholds for it. I don’t want to call you out any further. I’d love to make some sense for you over the phone though. Have a good one:

      Jason
      editor | TinyComb

    • Eric K. Clemons

      Terribly written? BS rhetoric? Look at your own post. Advertising is indeed going to die. I suggest that you look at the references and then get back to my. I can debate this as long as you want. Or not, if you are satisfied with your post.

    • ADD

      His entire premise is that advertising doesn’t work. What do you mean by work?

      Not all advertising is tied to a result. In fact the vast majority of broadcast and print is not direct response. To say it is failing is presumptuous and myopic. There is also a tremendous entertainment derived from advertising. Like it or not our culture is one of ‘have’ and ‘gotta have’

      What doesn’t work is naive entrepreneurs who sell their wares on greatly inflated ad rates. The average online ad produces a positive ROI its just seldom anywhere near rate card. So the failure of the site or company is really based on the lack of incredibly high cpms.

      As the web continues to morph into a amalgam of a website (lean forward) and a TV (lean back) we’ll see less “banners” and more “commercials”.

    • Eric K. Clemons

      I do agree. It is about connection. Connection is what I want, when I want it, and anything else is wasting my time. I suspect that the web will get better and better at providing what we all want, and it will look less and less like advertising and more and more like relationships.

    • Eric K. Clemons

      That’s a different paper and one I am indeed pursuing. This one is about everything but organic search, hence the absence of discussion of organic search! I do have a team studying that, and perhaps we can have our discussion when you want. Thanks!

    • Eric K. Clemons

      Thankfully so … only if you are in the advertising business. I’m a lot like Alex I think.

    • http://roadbikeusa.com Denny

      I think people to a large extent want advertising. The main reason I buy the newspaper is for the classifieds and the coupons. There was a good point made on the value of fresh content. Newspapers were, up until recently, the freshest of targeted content and better than tv because you could skip to the parts that you wanted. The internet changed that obviously making it much easier and quicker to get info on demand, however you wanted it. The trick will be finding ways to create digital delivery of the promotions (think coupons, classified ads) in a way that they too are part of the instant, on demand model.

    • CavsFan

      Tell Nike that advertising doesn’t work – in print, online, in person – embrace, be creative, and surround yourself and company with passionate people.

      Every industry has clear winners – check Business Week “value of a brand” – in all cases, companies that succeed introduce new products, are innovative, and advertise.

      Post is a clear reason why “ops” folks can’t and shouldn’t run (rather ruin) companies.

    • Eric K. Clemons

      Maybe. But when is the last time you fast-forwarded over an ad, or channel-hopped to avoid one? The scientific data (not just my short summary of it here) suggests that we are having less and less patience with ads. Do you prefer movies on broadcast with commercials or on premium channels without? There will always be a need for some ads. But surely this will not be enough to fund all the content we currently enjoy on the net.

    • Eric K. Clemons

      Sorry if this seemed to be an all-or-nothing argument. The basic idea is that while there will always be some advertising, it will surely not be enough to fund everything we now do on the net. My headline, by the way, did not have the word fail in it. It was typical soft-pedal academic “surely there must be something other than advertising” kind of thing. I suspect if the Tech Crunch eds had used my heading no one would have read the article. But, of course, few things in life are binary. I think it is optimistic (or pessimistic) to pretend that there is any form of evolution that will allow advertising to be the primary revenue source for all internet apps! Connection is not advertising, and the net will provide connection.

    • Flemming

      The hard truth is simply that online advertising doesn’t work as well as many people had hoped.

      Want to increase the results of your internet advertising? Run some ads on TV!

      Of course you need to be online because when you have advertised offline and the customer is ready to know more or buy – then you need to be ready to take them down the isle online. But in most cases you can’t start the journey online.

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    • Eric K. Clemons

      Doubt it. Let’s give it five years and see. You may be right over the short term. But I doubt that internet advertising will seem anything but invasive and offensive in five years. But I was ridiculed in 1999 for ridiculing click throughs, eyeballs, online grocery sales and online pet food. But thanks for at least starting with an apology. I appreciate that. I will publish a retraction if and when it seems appropriate.

    • Eric K. Clemons

      Again, give it five years. By the way, I am still advising several firms on internet advertising, so, at least, I fail you “years out of date” test. Think about the last time you sought out an ad, as opposed to the last time you channel-surfed or fast-forwarded past one. Think about the scientific studies (not mine) of Accenture, Forrester, and MIT’s Media Lab, on the loss of trust in advertising. If in five years the bulk of internet revenues still come from advertising I will publish a retraction.

    • http://tinycomb.com/2009/03/22/when-wharton-professors-dont-know-jack/ tinyComb » Blog Archive » When Wharton Professors Don’t Know Jack

      [...] is my comment on TechCrunch today in response to a guest author’s article on the death of advertising. Who’s this [...]

    • Eric K. Clemons

      I agree completely … up to a point. I am in favor of optimizing search, not optimizing my website for SERP.

    • http://tinycomb.com jason@tinycomb.com
    • Eric K. Clemons

      Thanks. A lot of the comments are making me feel like a futurist … God forbid … or like an alien who thinks the internet is about intellectual freedom rather than forced feeding of unwanted ads.

    • Jason

      Spiceworks solved this with ads. You have community and app built around what users want and need. They know what u need why u need it and give an ad that offers that. Great case study for all to learn from.

    • Nogero

      We’ve all been fooled. How many of us took after what he sold in the article. Anyone else Google “Shure E500″ earphones? Or how about the websites. This is tricky word of mouth advertising. Is he getting a cut from those companies? I wonder.

    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      Our LA region will be up by April 30. Our NYC region will be up by June.

      We still need a European and Asian regional center, so if you are interested contact me at soeet.com@gmail.com

      recap-

      X website wants to make revenue. Advertising does not work. They sign up to the CDN. The CDN provides their content at high availability through world wide CDN.

      X website readers are redirected to page where they can pay for access to an entire block of websites, several thousands like you would be directed to pay for internet access in an airport or hotel via DHCP and DNS.

      X website makes a few cents on the dollar, the CDN makes most of the money. The partners that provide CDN regions share the money with us.

      Our initial investment is already in the tens of thousands of dollars for both this and mobile.

    • Hmm

      “Advertising is indeed going to die”

      You do understand that that is a VERY huge claim to make. And the onus is on YOU to prove that that claim has any legs–just like when you accuse someone of being guilty, the onus is on the accuser to prove the guilt.

      Of course it does not help that you’ve managed to entangle all kinds of industries, sometimes arguing that advertising will die, and at other times, arguing that “internet advertising” will die. Do you make no distinction between the two? Then why is your post titled “…failing on the INTERNET”?

      So far from your writing, all I can read is you are a hardcore pessimist about the advertising world. That position in itself is fine. You are entitled to your opinion. But you are a professor–and you would know better than anyone that when a student shares his opinion, first thing you ask ‘em is, “WHERE’S THE PROOF?”

      So, professor, where’s the proof that an industry that did 391billion in business in 2006 is simply going to die?

    • John

      THe same reasons Eric postulates advertising will fail, are the exact reasons why it will succeed.

      1. (Some) Consumers trust advertising. With a known brand, the trust is very high. Word of mouth (and social networking) only goes so far.

      2. (Some) Consumers want to view advertising. Look at the web hits on Superbowl ad views. How many people view movie trailers before seeing a movie? Many “reviews” are really just ads.

      3. (Many) Consumers need advertising. How else does a purchase get motivated? How would you know that TV you want (or didn’t know you wanted) is now 50% off?

      Social networks and review sites have their place, and so does advertising. Ads will never die, but the “ads” concept will continue to evolve and morph, along with the maturity of social networks, the number of Internet savvy consumers who can tell the difference between a “review” and an “ad”.

      Let us not forget, the US (and global) population is not a bunch of 20-somethings from Silicon Valley with seemingly endless bandwidth and every latest iDevice surrounding them.

      Ads will never die.

    • Hmm

      Having a solid business model and relying on advertising are not mutually exclusive.

      Someday you shall realize.

    • http://www.whattheyresaying.com/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/   Why advertising is failing on the Internet by What They’re Saying

      [...] guest post on Techcrunch is a perfect follow-up to my previous rant about ad [...]

    • http://www.gubatron.com Gubatron

      Paid content that doesn’t look (to the regular reader/viewer/listener) like paid content FTW.

    • http://www.rajajasti.com/2009/03/22/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why advertising is failing on the internet « Raja Jasti’s Blog – Renaissance Thinking

      [...] Eric Clemons, a professor at Wharton business school, wrote a guest column at Techcrunch titled ‘why advertising is failing on the internet’. [...]

    • No_way_jose

      His entire premise is that advertising doesn’t work. What do you mean by work?

      Not all advertising is tied to a result. In fact the vast majority of broadcast and print is not direct response. To say it is failing is presumptuous and myopic. There is also a tremendous entertainment derived from advertising. Like it or not our culture is one of ‘have’ and ‘gotta have’

      What doesn’t work is naive entrepreneurs who sell their wares on greatly inflated ad rates. The average online ad produces a positive ROI its just seldom anywhere near rate card. So the failure of the site or company is really based on the lack of incredibly high cpms.

      As the web continues to morph into a amalgam of a website (lean forward) and a TV (lean back) we’ll see less “banners” and more “commercials”.

    • http://gtourneur.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet « The Read Gear

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    • http://www.gubatron.com Gubatron

      Just a test, and I know most readers of this blog are above the average intellectual level of regular people that might fall or feel like clicking banners

      How many times have you clicked on an ad displayed here at Techcrunch?

      In all the years I’ve been reading this blog, I may have clicked only 2 or 3 times on an ad, just out of curiosity. My eyes and mind are always focused on the post, I completly disregard the ads, I honestly don’t care about a single advertiser shown here right now. However, I keep wondering which are the real ads, the banners or some of the linked content which is the one that can actually drive an insane amount of traffic to the advertiser who could be paying for the post.

      And I don’t think it’s bad if Apple comes and pays techcrunch to do a post about their latest release. As long as Techcrunch is free to write objectively I don’t mind reading about Apple’s new release, in the end I’m reading about what I care, from who I care, Apple just pays to have Techcrunch’s attention vs XYZ company.

      I believe we see examples of this everyday on the newscasts on TV. You might see some stupid note on the nightly news about the “Jonas Brothers popping out on a movie theater”… that’s not news! that’s paid news right there, and they work a hell of a lot better than the 30 sec spot on the commercial break.

      Nowadays I just question everything I read and think, am I reading one hell of a well crafted ad?

    • http://blog.merjis.com Jeremy Chatfield

      Turgid rubbish – at least the part that I know very well. From which I infer the rest is likely to be rubbish. Watch Hal Varian’s recent video describing AdRank and Quality Score. If the QS, composed of an evaluation of multiple factors, including the Landing Page, Advert Copy, Click Through Rate (proxy for customer satsfaction with the advert) and long term response (users returning to the site from organic search, for example) – if the QS is low, the advert isn’t shown – even if you bid the maximum of $100. The auction can’t be bough for an advertiser that fails to “satisfice”.

      Now, this article insists on “misdirection” (avoiding the Quality Score factors altogether) and a simple monetary auction – which Google doesn’t have (Generalized Second Price Auction). How plausible is the rest? I place little confidence on it.

    • http://problogservice.com Mike Seidle

      I’ve never seen someone be more right and wrong at the same time. First, advertising isn’t anywhere near dead. The drop in spends over the past year were predictable and largely based on big advertisers cutting spends and the real estate, mortgage and domestic auto companies nearly drying up completely. That will come back.

      On the other hand, there are a couple of slow moving train wrecks happening in internet: gimmicky rich media ads and to a certain degree pay per click ads are just not performing as they have in the past.

    • Eric K. Clemons

      I actually wrote a much softer initial headline, but this one was added by the editors to get someone to read the piece. I suspect it worked. Here’s the original title “Monetizing Applications on the Internet: Surely There Must be Something Other Than Advertising.” The basic assumptions of the paper are laid out and evidence is provided to support them. People don’t trust them, are skipping them, and don’t need them. There is a great deal of money spent on internet ads now, not because they work, but because they have already failed on other media. My belief is that the internet is free and liberating, and what has failed in print and in broadcast will ultimately fail online as well. Not entirely, of course, just as ads have not failed entirely elsewhere. But count the newspapers that have gone bankrupt and the number of pages of print ads in Fortune or Time today compared to 10 years ago. I surely don’t think that reasoning from one industry to the other suggests that I have entangled them. But let’s wait five years and see what happens.

    • colin

      “Monetization of misdirection frequently takes the form of charging companies for keywords and threatening to divert their customers to a competitor if they fail to pay adequately for keywords that the customer is likely to use in searches for the companies’ products”

      I’d like to see some case studies cited of this actually happening. I’ve worked with adwords for about 5 years, and I have never heard of this before. Are you seriously saying that google sends people to a competitors site from your ads if you don’t pay up? It just doesn’t happen.

    • Joe Wilkicki

      I wonder if part of the problem here is a distinction between the types of services on the Internet. It seems to me there are at least three: sites that sell actual things, sites that are ‘channels’ in the TV sense, and sites that are basically infrastructure.

      As the article notes, sites that sell things don’t really have a problem. Their presence is paid for directly by their business activities. In some sense, they are advertising and sales built into one; a store circular that also happens to BE the store.

      The article and the comments have differing opinions about ‘channel’ sites that provide purely media content of specific types. The author asserts that, in the future, these sites will be completely for-pay, while others in the comments scoff at that idea and assume that ads are more valuable with ‘channels’ because the target audience is clear. I think we are talking past each other here. There are examples of both kinds of channel sites existing contemporaneously. TechCrunch would be an example of mostly ad-supported. Consumer Reports would pretty much be for-paid. Others, like Penny Arcade, combine selling real things with ad-supported content. All of these sites seem to be doing reasonably well, so perhaps the author is a little too focused on the strictly for-pay model.

      I think his points about trusted reviews being more useful than ads actually points to a way that ad-supported sites can still be successful. If the ad-supported sites carefully pick what advertisers they work with, then they are basically establishing trust with their readers/viewers by saying “We know these products and think they are good.” This is really the opposite of the Google model, where the ads are targeted, but not necessarily verified by the site showing the ads.

      To some extent, this system is also self-policing. The Penny Arcade site has built up a certain level of trust in the community and often comments on how they select their ads. They are also the target audience for some of those ads, so they tend to pick things that align well with their interests.

      On the other hand, some sites run articles that appear to be advertising or direct copy from the companies they are covering, without identifying it as such. They may not be doing so, but if they aren’t upfront about their sources, they lose trust, lose readers, and ultimately lose revenue. Here, the author’s own point about consumers mistrusting paid content and trusting the recommendations of friends works against him. If a trusted source says the ad is good, that might be more effective than the ad alone, while providing a decent business model for the site.

      Which leaves us with infrastructure sites. Sites like Twitter, Facebook, and G-mail really aren’t about delivering content like CNN. That seems to be a thorny problem with this discussion; how do we make money doing sites like that. The sites only have value if lots of people visit them, but you won’t get much usage if you charge for them. The most successful infrastructure services seem to be the ones that don’t charge. AOL Instant Messenger became a killer app when anyone could connect to it. Before then, ICQ looked like a winner.

      On top of that, people are very concerned about these sites having so much data about them. There is always the risk that the sites will use data in ways that people won’t like (see recent Facebook and Google opt-out ad fiascos) or that this centralized data is an excellent target for hackers (see Facebook viruses or PayPal’s troubles).

      I wonder if the mistake made with infrastructure services is that we try to treat them like channels when they really aren’t. The Internet was supposed to be decentralized with the value at the edges, but the cloud computing paradigm has started to pull things to the center. The result is large databases and central points of failure for services that used to be kept at the edges.

      Perhaps the solution to monetizing Facebook, Twitter, etc. is not to try to turn them into channels, but to turn them into software that anyone can run. An extreme example would be to have a “Facebook” appliance, or maybe a Facebook service on a Windows Home Server that kept all of your social data. Using P2P or exchanging connection information, you could still contact your friends and get the social aggregation benefit, while the companies who make the software get paid for innovative, useful features rather than trying to sell their users to advertisers. We have a lot of computing power behind our Linksys routers, but we don’t really do much with it. If companies invest money in making the software easy to maintain for consumers, then they have real value to sell while allowing users to control their own data.

      A slightly less radical idea might be to sell Facebook server software to ISP’s, much like ISP’s provide access to security software as part of their service. Consumers get the benefit of having someone else manage the software and worry about backing up the data while the ISP’s can add value to subscribing to their service by adding extra features like Twitter-style accounts and Facebook profiles. This assumes, of course, that ISP’s see their users as customers and not as assets to resell.

      As much as we may not like it, the Internet is rapidly turning into interactive TV, and I think that is the core problem with trying to monetize Facebook, Twitter, and the like. If we let the Internet be the Internet, then anyone could benefit without a lot of the downsides we currently have.

    • http://arnoldit.com/wordpress/2009/03/22/online-advertising-cruisin-for-a-bruisin-says-wharton-prof/ Online Advertising: Cruisin for a Bruisin Says Wharton Prof : Beyond Search

      [...] happy quack to the reader who went me a link to the guest write up called “Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet” by Wharton professor Eric Clemons. You can read his dense, interesting exegesis here. His bio is [...]

    • http://www.arnoldit.com Stephen Arnold

      The addled goose at the Beyond Search Web log commented on this essay. Keep in mind that the addled goose knows little about business the Wharton way, but the poor goose has built successful online businesses. The goose’s post will probably give you indigestion. http://www.arnoldit.com/wordpress

      Stephen Arnold, March 22, 2009

    • http://www.thombiota.blogspot.com Thom Dinsdale

      I think it is very dangerous and opportunistic to say “advertising is dead” in the middle of a recession. Something is happening to it as a tool for communication but I think we have a way to go before we’re mourning its death. What is changing is our relationship with the media and vehicles that traditionally carry advertising, they mean different things and take a different place within our consumption of information – as such the role of advertising as paid for space on these media must be readdressed. Furthermore, our relationship with brands is fundamentally changed: the boundaries between cultural and the corporate are now indistinguishable, with both exploring the other. The likes of Damien Hirst have illustrated that brands are cultural and social phenomena in themselves – not cold corporate mechanisms. The relationship is far more complex and far more human than this post gives it credit for.

      Advertising that invokes a cultural reaction, that transcends cold commercial interest and becomes part of a deeper cultural, social sphere increases its relevance and usefullness to consumers. Cadbury’s “Gorilla” by Fallon was paid to be seen by 30% of the UK population but was seen by 60% as a direct result of people sharing and engaging with the ad as a cultural spectacle. It was unashamedly advertising, and didn’t hide its corporate agenda, yet it possessed value which transcended interruptive selling.

      Interruptive advertising will not work online (or offline) any more because consumers are empowered more than ever before to control their consumption of information, and our friends are publishers – this is what has changed. If Advertising wants to survive then it must change with it – and brands which have done that thus far have seen and will continue to see success. Traditional media driven advertising will have to reappraise and find a way to live in this different landscape – and it will look a lot more like public relations – dead though, it ain’t.

      Everybody wants to announce the apocalypse – especially in a recession when everyone feels pretty cruddy anyway. Digital is, by definition, not broadcast and as such must be monetized differently – and its impact will transform traditional media. The medium is the message – but, if the medium changes then so will the message. Traditional advertisers must remember that and rethink their approach to communication accordingly.

    • http://www.medlawplus.com Joe

      “Pushing a message at a potential customer when it has not been requested … .”

      This is exactly the business model of free network television. It has worked for 50-60 years. Sorry, I just don’t see how the professor has added much to the conversation with the above article.

    • Jeff

      Maybe we should start a war against Big Education and jerkoffs like Clemons.

      This clown probably sponges well over six figures from the university, government and who knows where else. It’s time to stand up to the fat cat professors and their insane salaries.

      Investigate, exploit, probe, destroy.

    • Destroy Fat Cat Professors

      I totally agree… I’m going to call up the university and start waging war against the Fat Cat Professors

    • Destroy Fat Cat Professors

      Best place to start is find out who is personal relatives are… find the weak spots

    • http://michellesblog.net Michelle Greer

      This is wrong.

      Here’s why advertising is failing on the internet:

      The biggest blogs on the internet are blogs like this one. The last time I checked, 8 out of the top 10 blogs on the internet were tech related. MOST PEOPLE COULD GIVE A CRAP ABOUT WHAT TECHCRUNCH HAS TO WRITE. They just don’t care. They like “American Idol” or “Heroes” or whatever show is on TV.

      When most of the internet does not appeal to the majority of people, there is no reason for many advertisers to even bother. When producers of better content come to the internet as will inevitably be the case, you will see more advertisement there. Advertising works as long as it is relevant to the audience.

      FYI, I speak to college kids regularly, and most of these professors get this stuff less than their students do.

    • Alcatrz

      Too long. Felt asleep half way through. Michael how much did this guy pay to publish this. I hope its worth it. Cuz you might be looking at losing some of those ads you are selling

    • http://simplespot.ca Kamal

      Nice, you just used TC to gain free publicity.

      On a more serious note, I have to agree with you. Internet advertising isn’t going to die. Most of those who read this blog are tech savvy, but remember, we only represent 0.0001% (mild exaggeration) of the population. There are too many people out there who are actually receptive.

      But okay, since you’re a professor, let’s do a hypothetical scenario. All of the old timers die out, and being web savvy is as important in society as clipping your nails. The psychology behind advertising won’t change. The advertiser simply needs something that will captivate you to click, then divert your emotions to want something you don’t particularly need, and after enough repetitions will result in you having you purchase the item.

      But I do agree with one thing in Mr. Clemon’s analysis, and that is advertisers will need to get smarter. That, however, is a different discussion.

    • david

      the problem is partially in the actual media buying process – if you put a message in front of the right people, it’s not advertising; it’s content. rich-media ads prove this and have the interaction rates to show that content is still king – even in online advertising

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erez_Shemesh/655919465 Erez Shemesh

      The alternative models for monetization will not replace advertising, they will co-exist.
      I do agree with the problematic format of the current advertising models, however, in order to solve this problem, we should look deeper into more fundamental issues like the content structure, web pages, the browsers and the current browsing paradigm.
      If you could re-design the internet, would it look the same ? Probably not. The feeling I get from the web today is of endless patches starting from a beta version as early as 20 years ago (Anyone who had to develop and test a web application to support IE 5,6,7,8, FF, chrome etc. knows what I’m talking about)
      Anyway, instead of looking for new models, why not to take a winning model – the TV, and adjust it for the web? Checkout the brand new web-show concept (for example http://qwiji.com/Show.aspx?sid=52), using existing web content and video placed on a time line, you get the ability to implement contextual commercial breaks in between the Web-show items (i.e. item 10 in the example) . In this format the users don’t click a banner or text-ad to watch the commercial, they are taken through it as part of the show flow. Check it out, tell me what you think.

    • http://www.polemicpost.com chris

      Yea precisely. Descartes said not to make extreme claims unless you know for certain what you are talking about? So in a few year wee see internet advertising not dead you’ll just end up more wrong then if you took a more moderate stance.

    • http://www.linkedin.com/in/synstelien Don Synstelien

      I think this site would look better without all the distracting ads on the side.

      Can I please have a version without the aforementioned ads? It would make me think you are more successful than you are right now.

      Thanks,

      Don

    • Falafulu Fisi

      I noted in my yahoo email account every time I opened to check my email, it recommends (or presented me) with relevant ads, that I always click on. It knows my communication topics, keywords and it present the ads relevant to those topics/keywords.

      So, I think that internet advertising, the key thing is relevancy.

      I wouldn’t pay for placed advertisement with the likes of MySpace, Facebook or even Twitter, because they don’t or haven’t adopt(ed) relevancy recommendation yet. It would be suicidal financially for anyone to pay for placed advertisement with those social networking sites. It is a particular difficult domain (algorithmic-wise) is deploying an algorithm that is accurate (ie, low classification error). This is why companies should just stick with paid advertisements with Yahoo, Google, Microsoft and all those biggies, since they have R&D people who specialize in online advertising researches and there is nothing under rock in this domain that they haven’t thought about or know about.

    • Sami Bayrakci

      I agree with your point that simply moving traditional push advertising method from old media to a new media would not work and it’s not working.

      However, there are many examples of pull advertising, particularly paid search, that’s native to internet that’s not going to fail. Because it’s working better than other methods. It may not be perfect but it’s best that’s out there right now.

      On your alternative methods monetazion, I was unable to see clear suggestions. Do you expect Facebook, MySpace to charge for participation? Or YouTube? Or do you think SecondLife will not be dead in a few years?

      How does TripAdvisor make money? Not by facilitating a reasonable trusted environment for reviews. They make money by selling, actually pushing, advertisements within that environment.

      Selling access to content would work only for certain type niches, particuarly those that are intended for businesses ot high-net worth consumers. A company like Stratfor.com can charge for access because they deliver but many other content sites that are geared towards consumers, will have depend on advertising and this model will continue to work.

      And I do believe the current slow down in the internet advertising is caused by general recession.

    • http://www.polemicpost.com chris

      Actually I can make the case that anything BUT internet advertising is going to die. I know many sites that used to be on paid revenue models but had to switch to advertising instead. I beleive gamespot.com is one (not sure though). But it really does depend on the case.

      But internet advertising is too new and underdeveloped, which is why it seems like it can die. There definitely has to be a change with internet advertising to make it more effective I believe advertising will be the dominant model on the internet. Just take a look at how many google services are free. Just take a look at how google came to prominence. They would never have been as popular had they started out by charging people.

      Banner ads that are persistent, that is they stay in the same place on the site even if you leave the site and come back, and ads that are as clever and interesting as print ones can revitalize internet advertising. The problem is that too many people can advertise and a flood of crappy ads are destroying the reputation of internet adveritsing.

    • http://tinycomb.com jason@tinycomb.com

      “But I do agree with one thing in Mr. Clemon’s analysis, and that is advertisers will need to get smarter”

      natural evolution of advertising.

    • http://tillspace.blogspot.com Martin Kuenzi

      The controversy of this discussion illustrates that opinions are quintessentially different. I suggest talking rather about engagement and honesty instead of broadcasting ads!

    • Rick

      Oh my god, I never expected so many aggressively defensive reaction on a site like Techcrunch, that’s supposed to have a tech-savvy audience.

      It’s like the author just told a bunch of kids Santa Claus doesn’t exist…

      Okay, so it’s not a very well written post, but I expected the basic premise to be an obvious truth to anyone who knows how to use 21st century media, and thus will rarely see and much less really notice any kind of advertising.

    • Hmm

      I appreciate you want to make your stance softer.

      But why are you now blaming the TC editors, professor? As if they put words in your mouth that the ad industry is going to die.

      Of course in the very post I was responding to, you said “Advertising is indeed going to die.”

      And if you don’t think the industry will die, what will happen? It is going to change? Ok, we already know that..what’s your critical claim?

    • Grimp

      Regarding #1:

      Paying for items in virtual worlds is a successful business model, mostly for online games. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_Online

      Regarding #2:

      People do not trust advertising because the message does not come from a neutral source, not because they think the company is some sort of fraud. Why do you think people trust word-of-mouth from their friends or Consumer Reports-style ratings over advertising? They know that either of those sources is trying to rate the product fairly, rather than just sell it. That said, people are often too lazy or indecisive to do the research themselves, so advertising can still tip the decision one way or the other. Even so, people often turn to forums or ratings websites with guides to make that same decision.

    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      The connections aren’t being made because people inherently do not want to work for free.

      Any time there is a payment gateway, you make a one time payment, and there is no abstraction. You are taken directly to the content.

      Luring people in to something they had no intention of doing is the problem, and fire walled access with a fast easy one click gateway is the solution.

      Be up front with people and tell them that this action costs money. That is as simple as it gets.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Seyed_Mohammad_Mohaghegh_Ahmadabadi/646790577 Seyed Mohammad Mohaghegh Ahmadabadi

      Wonderful essay! especially because it has referred to my favorite, Hafiz !

    • http://scenariosandstrategy.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/the-future-of-advertising-or-the-lack-thereof/ The Future of Advertising (or the Lack Thereof)?… « Scenarios and Strategy

      [...] old friend and collaborator, Wharton professor Eric Clemons, has guest posted on TechCrunch “Why Advertising is Failing on the Internet.”  Eric’s piece is (characteristically of his work) thoroughly grounded and tightly [...]

    • http://im-mobile.com/2009/03/22/is-advertising-necessary/ Is Advertising Necessary? | IM-Mobile

      [...] School of the University of Pennsylvania. Clemons just posted an article (available in PDF form) on TechCrunch. His predictions about the demise of PC-based Internet advertising and his comments on social media [...]

    • http://www.taggle.org/2009/03/2778-why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why Advertising is failing on the Internet | taggle.org

      [...] Le buzz du week-end : un article de fond sur l’avenir de la publicité en ligne et l’ech…. Must read ! [...]

    • greggo

      I look at the advertisements because thay can reveal a lot about a website; such as, which politcal party they belong to, what their POV is likely to be, etc…

      Helps to keep me from wasting my time.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian_Prows/701353807 Brian Prows

      His predictions about the demise of PC-based Internet advertising and his comments on social media and mobile ad personalization are controversial with a grain of truth and 100 grains of speculation and flabbergast.

      Clemons generally opposes advertising “pushed” to potential customers who haven’t requested the ads. He believes that Internet and other advertising is similar to email spam and non-participatory, shatters the Internet experience and will ultimately fail. In Clemons view, pushing ad messages to people not seeking them is a grave sin.

      Visit IM-Mobile.com for my complete review of Clemon’s post.

    • http://drewmack.com Drew

      This post is a short essay about how businesses which rely on providing useless advertisements to their customers are doomed.

      Duh.

      We’ve known this for years.

      Meanwhile smart sites have evolved and survived by partnering with companies to add value to their customers with advertising. A great example would be CNET where product tie-ins and sponsorships are both profitable and genuinely useful to consumers.

      But that wouldn’t have made headlines would it?

      Here’s another shocker, people who are jerks have less friends. Common sense right? Seems sensational though if you spend five pages dissecting the subject and put a headline like:

      “Future of friendship is doomed.”

      Now I remember why I don’t read TechCrunch much anymore.

    • http://www.greggmorris.com/?p=306 Advertising will fail? | Reinventing Yourself…

      [...] Tech Crunch is running this post from Eric Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania Why Advertising Is Failing On the Internet. [...]

    • jpg

      Echoing many other responders, I do not agree with Mr. Clemons’ assertions in this post. As I think about it, few successful internet sites use the subscriber-based business model. Yes, I can think of a few, such as wsj.com for example. However, a lot of internet content can be easily substituted. In the above case, I could easily go to reuters.com or cnbc.com for similar content as a substitute. I see more internet sites switching to the advertising-based business model more than the subscriber-based business model right now so I would argue that Mr. Clemons may be too focused on the success of a few sites.

      I do like his suggestion of new ways of making money on the internet though. The sale of content for money is not bad. However, it is unsustainable as it has a short shelf-life and can be easily copied for a lower cost.

      But the mobile ads are not a bad idea. However, instead of being pushed, it should be pulled. For example, when the stock market crashed, I wanted alerts for when a price hits a certain level but I also wanted a service that I could “ping” in order to capitalize on the trend. I know there are many such services for the financial markets, but I think that such a service would be useful for users when other incidental needs arise.

      Regardless, this was a relatively informative article even if what it is arguing for is something that I cannot completely agree with.

    • http://www.search-marketing-answers.com/blog Alan Bleiweiss

      The author is high.

      The only valid concept even touched upon was related to the concept where a business might lose prospective customers when they don’t do paid ads due to competitors being able to show up for a search that the company not advertising could also show up for, or even for that company’s brand.

      And well if people doing the search are incapable of reading the ad and the URL for that ad, is it Google’s fault?

      Should Google be the legal arbiter? Already discussed, debated and put aside.

      Virtual worlds may at some point become a viable environment for shopping in any way beyond today’s poor model. Except any company that wants space in the virtual world will still need to pay for it so it will just be a 3d advertising model instead. Same issues. Same challenges.

      As for the drop in advertising – if the great wizard of Wharton would have put in the legwork he’d know that even though spend is in a downward trend, when compared to print, and other “traditional” media spend, it’s doing phenomenally better.

      I say the Professor needs to go back to school.

    • josh

      Whats funny about “advertising online is dead” is that as I’m reading this, there are 15 separate ads on the right portion of the page.

      FU, TC.

    • http://digitalstreetjournal.com/wordpress/?p=268 Reasons why advertising on the Internet will not fail – DIGITAL STREET JOURNAL

      [...] Culture Writing in TechCrunch, Eric Clemons, a professor at the Wharton School of Management, makes the case that the Internet is going to be the death of advertising, “shattering” it as in the [...]

    • http://zbowling.com/ Zac Bowling

      It’s almost where we are in an ad rebellion. :-)

      This is why the advertising industry leaves a bad taste in people’s mouths. It’s not been done right, and it has socially engineered us into avoiding advertising and any messages posted by the companies themselves, at all costs in most cases. They pushed a constant stream of crap on us and we aren’t susceptible to it anymore.

      It makes it hard to have a web service purely funded by advertising only. A lot of dotcoms blew up in 2000 thinking that advertising alone would drive them. Remember the paid surfing companies? Get paid or get free internet access for just viewing an ad while using them? If you model is designed to only be powered by advertising then you are going to have problems down the road.

      I think that services that help me the things I want when I want them is the way to go. Having good customer relationships and building up social credit is the way to go. Its slow but it works. I don’t need to be hit with 300 ads for Coke or McDonalds or some online casino when I’m doing something.

      When I want to find something good or the best, I’m going to check it out on consumer reports and yelp or whatever to find out the best. I also want to know about new products and services, so I follow TechCrunch, Gizmodo, Engadget, my local newspaper, etc. Services and offerings from those providers is where I choose what products or services I want to get.

      What does that mean for companies like Twitter and Facebook who don’t have revenue models yet? I’m not sure.

      I wouldn’t mind paying for service like Facebook if there was a value add there and it was compleing to pay for. I know that makes it hard to be viral like most social networking companies. How about value added premium services?

      How about the company’s pay to use the services as consumer relations platforms. How about these news companies that use twitter and Facebook to get content back for their own services pay to get access?

      It’s like we have forgotten that you have to have a revenue model before you create a company and that it has to be something are willing to pay you for. Advertising only models are doomed. Sure they work in Google’s case but your dependent on the entire economy being good and up enough to keep you afloat. We also all can’t be Googles (Just look at Yahoo).

    • http://friendfeed.com/vgill vijay gill
    • Rafi

      I read the post and think it describes the situation in a very “real” way. off curs adversing as we know it is not going to “die” tomorrow morning, but the fact of the matter is that the big corporates and the advertiser themselves don’t really know how to deal with the internet and its freedom of choice.
      They try to impose old dogmas of their industry on a new way of thinking that really doesn’t communicant with the techniques they operate with.

      They just don’t speak the language !!

      New advertisers have a chance to really do something if they listen to the market!

      It’s not about clicks or ad words but about getting the person who is looking to consume (a product, service or information) exactly what he wants and at the correct “temp”, not too hot or too cold and serving it at a location of his choice.

    • http://masterpraz.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet « Master Praz

      [...] LINK [...]

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gian_Fulgoni/727830849 Gian Fulgoni

      This article misses the mark — badly and in so many ways.

      The idea that consumers don’t like online ads and that that means advertising doesn’t work is nonsense. Consumers have complained about TV ads for years, yet they have been proven to work. Research into thousands of TV ad campaigns conducted by Information Resources (while I was CEO there) proved that they can increase sales.

      The author also fails to realize that there are at least two two types of ads: direct response and branding. Consumers interact with them in different ways and the Internet is a perfect vehicle for delivering both types. And there is enormous upside for both forms online.

      Take for example the ads that run in newspapers today that tell you what special prices are for grocery products. These ads are funded by the CPG mfrs paying the retailers “trade deal” dollars to the tune of $50 Billion or more per year. And retailers’ scanner data confirms beyond a shadow of a doubt that these “feature ads” cause tens of billions of dollars to be spent in different ways than if the consumers had never seen the ads. Virtually NONE of those feature ad dollars have yet moved online — but with the demise of newspapers (that the author readily acknowledges) it will certainly happen. That’s huge upside for Internet advertising.

      Another massive upside is branding advertising. At comScore, we’ve analyzed hundereds of online display campaigns via real world “test vs control” analytical designs and proved that they increase site visitation, trademark search queries and both online and offline sales. All without requring a click!

      I think the fundamental problem with this article is that it relects the author’s lack of understanding of how traditional advertising works. Then, he simply translates what he doesn’t know about traditional advertising into errors about advertising in the online world.

      I was also intrigued to realize that the author is a ” Professor of Operations and Information Management”. Sounds like left brain writing here, which certainly doesn’t give me a warm feeling that the good doctor can claim to be an authoritative source of knowledge about the many ways — rational and emotional — in which advertising works on the human mind.

    • http://mturro.com/2009/03/22/the-death-of-display-thoughts-on-why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ The Death of Display: Thoughts on “Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet” | [mturro: in plain sight]

      [...] 22, 2009 Tags: advertising, publishing Wharton Professor Eric Clemons stepped in it today. His guest post over at TechCrunch is generating both a good deal of buzz and an evil swirl of vitriol. Comment activity on the post [...]

    • Eric

      Done! I’m marking the date – March 22nd, 2014.

      If you don’t show up here for a retraction, Wharton’s gonna hear about this.

    • John Davis

      IN general because people are CHEAP!

      RT
      http://www.online-privacy.pro.tc

    • Elt

      Advertising? What advertising? I use firefox with AdBlock Plus. My internets have no ads, EVER. Hahaha, that means I WIN!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brandon_Milner/738035927 Brandon Milner

      Wow, some shocking trolling in the comments here.
      Anyway, as a real response, I think the author has made good points, but there are a number of ways in which advertising will continue to work on the internet:

      1. General brand building: Seeing ads for a company, even as banners or in the side-bar does increase brand awareness in general. This has been proven to make one’s brand come to mind when the user has a need which leads me to…

      2. “Uncynical user needs”: I made that term up but I’m referring to the use case where I just need a product and I’m not super picky about validity or quality of the vendor. I just need the first or biggest, viable solution to my problem. I’m looking for a certain type of battery for example. I type it into a search and find a store that carries it price seems reasonable = I buy it. Google ads are great for this.

      3) Titillating ads: I still think people will click, to some degree on interesting or titillating ads, but there’s a limit to how many stock trading services you can sell w/ cleavage showing unrelated ad imagery.

      4) Targeted ads: I still don’t think this is being done right. I feel there has to be SOME way to find out enough about a user to show them the right ad at the right time which will pique their interest.

      On the whole though, I agree. Customers are getting more cynical, and savvy at avoiding unwanted “noise” in their internet activities. And yes, I’d take reliable reviews (especially from folks I respect) over an ad anyday.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brandon_Milner/738035927 Brandon Milner

      Sorry I posted this twice. The UI confusing doesn’t show your comment after you ad it (it’s on a “newer comments” page. Grr.

    • http://economics.com.au/?p=3011 Advertising is failing on the Internet? : Core Economics

      [...] that the “Department of Huh?” But that is exactly what Eric Clemons of the Wharton School has said today. He starts of with some assertion that the decline in Internet ad revenues is not explained by the [...]

    • http://socialapp.wordpress.com Ashu

      Good to see a professors perspective.

    • http://www.ferodynamics.com/ Ferodynamics

      Why not? Oh wait, it’s against their TOS! ;-)

    • http://www.melbourneonline.com.au Mark – Melbourne Web Design

      Does anyone ever trust any advertising? Is it ever wanted?
      I for one don’t find myself sitting in front of the TV thankful to be watching an ad for the next motorised duster and reaching for the phone because they say it’s brilliant so it must be…

      Wherever people look, businesses will advertise. And companies know people don’t WANT to see their advertisements, but it’s about branding more than sales. Companies want their name recognised.

      Internet advertising may evolve, but it will never die.

    • Simon

      I tell ya what, why don’t you go back to teaching and leave the guys that live and breath online advertising to get on with it.

      Lame article from a prof that’s disconnected from the “real world” where bills need to be paid…

    • Clobbered

      The man is right. It is just a case of waiting to see who notices that the Emperor wears no clothes.

      Not only click-through is way less that one percent, but I suspect the number of people who parsed the link that didn’t click through is similarly puny. I am now typing at the bottom of this web page, having carefully read the article and scanned through the comments. I cannot recall a single ad that was placed on this page. I don’t use adblocks; I don’t need them. My brain does a pretty good job of not looking at the paid content.

      There are two aspects to selling your product.

      1. Making people aware of its existence. “Persil!”

      2. Convincing people it is worth buying. “Washes Whiter than White!”

      In a TV ad, you get a crack at doing both. On the Internet, the wisdom of crowds does #2 many times better than a TV ad. Does anyone seriously watch an ad or read a puff piece on a hotel and book it without checking tripadvisor first? Really?

      Internet ads are not a particularly good way of doing #1 either, but they are (mostly) the only one there is. If (big if) a better one crops up, things will change in a hurry.

    • http://www.melbourneonline.com.au Mark – Melbourne Web Design

      Agreed, Second Life isn’t a good business plan for most companies. Why was that even mentioned?

    • http://www.transplant-1.com/blogorama Michael Calienes

      i don’t believe advertising will die. i can believe, however, that traditional advertising will. advertising will get better, and the people who do it will get smarter. you’re also talking here about the 95% or more of advertising that is poorly planned, designed, and written. advertising, PR, marketing, whatever we call it, will evolve into something that is more about attracting consumers rather than pushing products and services. big difference.

    • http://afaqtrafficblog.blogspot.com Mohammad Afaq

      I enjoyed reading this post and I really believe that advertising is failing. It is true that people don’t have a belief in what people are advertising and if it continues then advertising industry won’t die but still it will lose a lot of advertisers and the revenue will go down.

      Mohammad Afaq
      Free Website Traffic

    • http://www.americancanvasprinting.com Brenda Direen

      I have never used paid advertising for any business I have owned. Marketing wisely via event support and involvement in the community I believe wants my product.

      This works GREAT every time and no one has to tune out my hard earned dollars being shoved in their face.

      Just my experience

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bartosz_Koodziej/539789447 Bartosz Kołodziej

      Everybody argues if advertising on the internet will die, but don’t miss the biggest chapter of this article: “Alternative models for monetization are available”. Where the author pointed out good (maybe obvious) alternative business models.

      Doki Tops wrote:
      - Just about everthing runs on advertisement income.

      And that’s why just about everything is doing it (I mean business model) wrong. Keyword: Diversification.

      The author says that advertising is failing, but on the other hand he placed targeted ads (calling it “misdirection”) as an good alternative.

      Ads on the internet won’t die, ads on the internet will change.

    • Eric K. Clemons

      Yes! Not enough Americans read Hafiz. It is amazing how the pain of being an aging male has not changed in centuries, nor the allure of a beautiful woman, or the soothing power of too many glasses of wine. And if more Americans read Hafiz, even in translation, it would be easier to remember that today’s Iran contains yesterday’s Persia.

    • Simon

      I don’t think enough has been said about viral advertising. It doesn’t cost much to leave pointing comments on blogs and articles. A few thousand dollars of freely-posted comments could go a long way.

      Imagine if there is a bad perception problem with something, for instance melamine in milk. I think paying a company to write hundreds of comments could really change perception… quite effective i’d say… not necessarily because the public reads comments, but the people that write articles do.

      oh, also, advertising blocking software is sooooo good. I’d like to see a study of its uptake, that would be interesting.

    • Eric K. Clemons

      We’re in synch up to a point. Being Clemons, I kind of like the way Clemons writes. But I was surprised at the anger. I may be wrong. I may be right. But if I am right a lot of internet businesses will need to rethink their revenue stream. Seems like a heads up here would be useful. If I’m wrong, ignore me. If I’m right, and you ignore me, your business might fail. But that’s not my fault. I’m only reporting on other people’s scientific research. I don’t make anything happen. Thanks.

    • Eric K. Clemons

      Thanks. I’m not arguing for or against anything. I’m making a prediction, and one, apparently, that a lot of Tech Crunch readers find pretty scary.

    • http://www.resolvedigital.com Barry Harrison

      It continues to sadden me that people can’t have intelligent disagreements without trying to make the other guy into an idiot.

    • CavsFan

      I’ve got a new product and I’m not going to tell anyone – they’ll find me on the internet and through organic search – I’ll probably have a waiting line when I open my doors – that will work right.

    • http://www.aconsumer.us/2009/03/22/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet | A Consumer

      [...] advertising will rapidly lose its value and its impact, for reasons that can easily be understood.read more | digg [...]

    • jm

      An important missed point: a lot of ads are solely to “get the brand out there”.

      I never travel, but when it was time to start my search for travel arrangements I started at expedia.com. Why? because it was just some random name that popped in my mind due to the commercials.

      Just getting people to hear the name of your business has value.

    • http://parallax.blogs.com Niel Robertson

      By the logic in this piece we should be removing all those needless hypertext links on every page on the web. Who wants to get distracted by things only marginally relevant to what you’re looking at right now anyway!

      Really TC, really? Please remember your primary value is your editorial function. It was not used wisely here.

      Niel

    • http://thecauseisthehabit.com Damien Basile

      Regardless of the validity of your point or not, here’s where I differ. Capitalizing “internet” is archaic just as using an apostrophe in the shortened version of photographs, “photo’s”. Lowercase “I” internet is widely accepted just as the unhyphenated version of E-mail, “email” is.

      By the by, IF you’re going to criticize grammar make sure yours is spot on first. “Rubish” has two b’s (rubbish) and “whereever” drops one E in the middle (wherever). Cheers.

    • brian82

      I completely disagree. As long as their are companies who feel they can get the ROI for interrupting the customer experience there will be publishers who take it. And, of course if the content is popular there will be consumers who are willing to sit through ads. Of course there will be new models that emerge but i don’t see any on the horizon that could possible compete with mass marketing advertising. If your theory was right then Faceboo/myspace/yourtube wouldn’t be struggling so much to sell a higher percentage of their available advertising.

    • Pete

      I agree with Mr. Heaton that the definition of “advertising” here is too narrow–connecting businesses with consumers IS advertising, and the Internet will do this better and in more socially advantageous ways than any previous medium. Here is where Mr. Clemons’ analysis goes wrong, IMHO:

      “I suspect that my hypothetical all-knowing firm will similarly be providing sponsored content; perhaps I will take a couple of additional seconds in order to find the restaurant I really want. This probably does not work as a form of advertising.”

      Google’s stated long term goal is to show you the restaurant you “really” want at the exact time you really want to hear about it. They want to build something that would make your “additional seconds” of searching on your own superfluous or, perhaps more accurately, to the extent you wanted to do some extra searching, they would want you to use Google for that extra search, and they would want the results–whether organic or through “advertisers”–to bring you closer to what you really want, and help you decide/discover what you really want.

      Long term, Google wants to move from “misdirection” to directing users exactly where they want to go, and increasingly, where they didn’t even know they wanted to go. They want to become the incredibly useful intermediary between all supply and all demand. That’s where advertising is going. I think there might be a lot of money in that, and no paywalls :)

      Take a look at their Google at 10 series. They are not being shy about their long term plans:

      “Google’s advertising business was founded on the core principle that advertising should deliver the right information to the right person at the right time.”

      http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/ad-perfect.html

      “So what’s our straightforward definition of the ideal search engine? Your best friend with instant access to all the world’s facts and a photographic memory of everything you’ve seen and know. That search engine could tailor answers to you based on your preferences, your existing knowledge and the best available information; it could ask for clarification and present the answers in whatever setting or media worked best.”

      http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/future-of-search.html

    • http://jyesmith.com/the-internet-is-not-replacing-advertising-but-shattering-it/2009/03/23/ A Digital Perspective » The internet is not replacing advertising but shattering it

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    • JoAnne

      Well, I used to use IE but once I discovered Firefox, I made the switch and have never looked back. Add ons like adblocker are awesome. I have a will purchase things on the net, but not because some annoying at was thrust at me. I understand that these ads finance free websites, and consumers that are interested can look at the ads.

      Saying that people shouldn’t block ads is like saying that I shouldn’t change the TV channel when ads are on. Why not? It’s my TV.

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    • http://canonizer.com Brent Allsop

      All 3 reasons for why you think advertising will fail could be easily resolved by simply having an advertizer provide a canonized feedback score from a web site like canonizer.com along with their advertisement.

      All you need is a generalizable way for large groups of people to communicate concisely and quantitatively, and once you can do that, you can easily ignore all the spam, scam, and untrusted advertising in the world.

    • Timbo

      It’s all in David Ricardo, the famous economist from the 18th century. Value arises from scarcity. When advertising required a printing press or a television transmitter, it was somewhat scarce and thus had value. The internet can expand almost infinitely. The actual cost of displaying an ad on a website is near zero. Accordingly, the value will fall to near zero. As the value of advertising on the internet falls, so will the value of all other advertising.

      The internet facilitates comparison shopping. Advertisers hate comparison shopping, and do all they can to discourage it. Consumers love comparison shopping. Consumers will place less and less value on print, radio and TV advertising, as they increasingly consult the internet to make their purchasing decisions.

      The permanent devaluation of advertising is going to cause drastic economic changes, drastic changes in business models. This frightens people. It will not cause the end of the world, though. Your readers seem angry, but they are actually frightened.

    • http://victorsultana.com/?p=109 Advertising is Dying | VictorSultana.com

      [...] is a great article from TechCrunch, originally written by Eric Clemons of the Wharton School of the University of [...]

    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      People have largely been untrained to pay for content.

      Imagine you always got free internet at the airport.

      You would be aghast about reaching http://www.swisscom.com/hospitality/

      And being forced to pay for access if you turned on your laptop and suddenly realized the free ride was over.

      Advertising has furnished this free ride for too long. It is time to sign up websites that used to use adsense and take over their domain controller via packet routing.

      Once the consumer pays, then they can enjoy an advertisement free experience consistent with what ad block plus is doing.

      The payment will allow access to thousands of sites in the service.

      This will replace Google adsense. This is half of what So33t now is. Please join us if you can set up a regional center in your country. The initial cost is between 50-100k. You don’t pay us. You buy the dedicated equipment and bandwidth with that, and synch up to our region nodes.

      Please email me as this is a real offer. I can show you video of our rack and our people and we can talk on skype about this project. Delays in a world wide deployment could be damaging so please consider this public offer.

      If you have any questions, please contact me. We are open to visits to see our equipment, people and deployment schema.

      This is the future of the internet. Not Google.

    • http://popmoderne.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/links-for-2009-03-22/ links for 2009-03-22 « POPMODERNE

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    • james barclay

      that was a rather sweeping statement – what about advertising that internet users actually search out – like services……….??

      with the video ads that are going to create the next wave of internet advertising, searchers can see and hear what the service provider has to offer without needing to pick up a phone or leave an email address…

      No need to contact the provider unless they feel really comfortable with the sales shpiel……

    • Pete

      I agree with Mr. Heaton that the definition of “advertising” here is too narrow–connecting businesses with consumers IS advertising, and the Internet will do this better and in more socially advantageous ways than any previous medium. Here is where Mr. Clemons’ analysis goes wrong, IMHO:

      “I suspect that my hypothetical all-knowing firm will similarly be providing sponsored content; perhaps I will take a couple of additional seconds in order to find the restaurant I really want. This probably does not work as a form of advertising.”

      Google’s stated long term goal is to show you the restaurant you “really” want at the exact time you really want to hear about it. They want to build something that would make your “additional seconds” of searching on your own superfluous or, perhaps more accurately, to the extent you wanted to do some extra searching, they would want you to use Google for that extra search, and they would want the results–whether organic or through “advertisers”–to bring you closer to what you really want, and help you decide/discover what you really want.

      Long term, Google wants to move from “misdirection” to directing users exactly where they want to go, and increasingly, where they didn’t even know they wanted to go. They want to become the incredibly useful intermediary between all supply and all demand. That’s where advertising is going. I think there might be a lot of money in that, and no paywalls :)

      Take a look at their Google at 10 series. They are not being shy about their long term plans:

      “Google’s advertising business was founded on the core principle that advertising should deliver the right information to the right person at the right time.”

      http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/ad-perfect.html

      “So what’s our straightforward definition of the ideal search engine? Your best friend with instant access to all the world’s facts and a photographic memory of everything you’ve seen and know. That search engine could tailor answers to you based on your preferences, your existing knowledge and the best available information; it could ask for clarification and present the answers in whatever setting or media worked best.”

      http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/future-of-search.html

    • Richard Jones

      This article was a mess ..please get an editor that can cull the redundancy and get to the point

    • http://www.linkedin.com/in/leonardkish Leonard Kish

      I’m a little more concerned about advertising crushing the internet, or at least social media. Advertising will just become integrated deeper into content, and therein will be the place where ROI can be measured.

    • Anton

      Wow, I’m amazed at the overwhelmingly negative responses here. Deluded online content providers much?

      What Clemons argues holds not just for the online channel, but for all channels. With an increasing number of sources to obtain free, valuable and all-encompassing information on any product or service, there is no reason for display advertising to continue to work. The true value that is derived from display advertising is brand recognition and discovery, which are incredibly important — but certainly not the only purpose of display advertising 20 years ago.

      By brand recognition, I mean to say that the brand is generating credibility and awareness by marketing in a prominent location. By discovery, I mean to say that if the product or service is unique, this is a means to inform people about the product. But this ad unit is, more than likely, not going to be the catalyst for purchase. Conversion will only come after a thorough round of research.

      Today, I might see an online display ad, click on the link and check out the product (as I do on the TechCrunch advertisements). I then search on Google for similar products, ignoring sponsored advertising and focusing on review sites and forums. I then make an informed decision regarding the most appropriate product for my needs, travel directly to that product’s sales channel, and buy it. In effect, someone just paid to have me be aware of a “product industry” more so than a “product brand”.

    • chinmi

      I believe that the author is right in that classic advertising will theoretically be driven out of the market. Theoretically, meaning in the long term. However practically, hard to tell how long ‘long’ really is.

      And although classic advertising could one day theoretically disappear, I think a new form of advertising could emerge that could prove to be sustainable. Social value of the brand should be stressed and then exploited.

    • http://www.zooped.com Zooped

      The drop is because of the recession if anything I would assume internet use would be up from all the jobless scowering the internet for work, Just need to be targeting traffic a little bit better.

    • Falafulu Fisi

      Simon said…
      I tell ya what, why don’t you go back to teaching and leave the guys that live and breath online advertising to get on with it.

      It is people like Dr. Eric Clemons that advances knowledge in the industry. You don’t need to know calculus in order to understand online advertisements which is why there are so many vendors doing them these days, but you want guys like Dr. Eric Clemons to apply differential calculus to making online advertisements better. This is what Google, Yahoo & Microsoft had been doing in the last few years. They do collaborate with various university researchers for conducting researches into online advertisements which they have already published the first proceedings (Audience Intelligence Online Advertising – 2007) in the data-mining journal. They didn’t collaborate with the likes of Gian Fulgoni (who posted above) from Information Resources (IR), since everything that IR know, is like childplay to them or they already know about those , and this is fact. If you read the proceedings, there is no mentioned at all of the 11 papers that were submitted that there was any collaboration at all with any ad-agency, none at all. What does this tell you? It tells you alot. It tells you that those software titans value knowledge that comes from academic such as the likes of Dr. Eric Clemons and not from day-to-day practitioners, because the realities of being an academic, most of the time they engage in original research (something never been done before). They have the capability to fully understand what practitioners know without even asking single question to practitioners.

      Simon said…
      Lame article from a prof that’s disconnected from the “real world” where bills need to be paid…

      Can you try to refute of what Dr. Clemons said, instead of making arbitrary assertion here. Explain why it is lame, so that Dr. Clemons will have a chance to reply.

    • http://www.stumpedia.com Luis Pereira

      Well said! The crowd is acting very defensive and in denial.

    • http://www.techgutter.com Techgutter

      Advertising wont get better until its more relevant and targetted, the problem is that cant happen without the user giving up more personal information.

      Would you be willing to give up your DOB, gender, etc etc etc to firefox so websites could serve you better ads?

      At the end of the day the stuff you use online wont survive without ads so they are here to stay, the question is how to make them better.

      Rather than companies pouring money down the drain serving ads that only get 1% CTR how about working out whats best for the user. I know I would rather an ad based on my interests, location, age etc instead of some one size fits all ad.

    • http://www.thearf.org joel

      It is ironic that the author of this is a professor at Wharton where a 2 day conference was held in early december among the world’s leaders in marketing from both the practitioner and academic world. Perhaps the author of this “thought” piece should check with his colleagues in the marketing dept at Wharton prior to expressing ill-conceived ideas that would be thrown into question by virtually all factual evidence.

    • Coleman

      “- Web usage grows exponentially…
      - People don’t have an income that grows exponentially.
      - Hence advertisement on the web becomes less effective.”

      good point.

    • Wade

      Good argument.

      At least this article has some originallity ( unlike much of the churned drivel on this site )

      Honestly techcrunch (without naming names), some your contributors can’t write a lick.

      Let’s see more editorial pieces like this ( even if it’s just some dude’s theory ) .

    • http://www.techgutter.com Techgutter

      That must be why Google is so poor

    • David
    • nmiop

      because no one pays it no attention

    • Jacques

      Mr Clemons is right when he says that ads are not trusted by consumers, and not only the most educated of them. In France more than 85% of the products purchased by INternet users (55% of the population) are influenced by online consumer reviews and conversations, not by ads!

      Some of you should read (re-read?) some of the 95 Theses Cluetrain Manifesto. Just remember that “markets have become conversations”, a conversation that companies obviously don’t offer through traditional advertising ( in mass media or online media). IN my opinion the future of brand advertising is in the genuine conversation the company will engage with its customers.

      The form of advertising we now know will be dead within 10 years, replaced or in the process of being replaced by another form of advertising.

    • Real World Advertiser

      Lots of academic thinking here. On the other hand, here’s my reality. I’ve personally earned millions running those ads you hate while selling high ticket products people ‘only’ buy through comparison sites.

      You must remember, even for expert searchers, the internet can be overwhelming and just plain tiresome in terms of product options. Not everything is as obviously unique and superior as Iphone. You can spend a huge amount of time on review sites, but nearly every product has ravers and detractors both. And some people hate the products you love for the same reason you love them, which certainly makes you spend even more time doubting yourself.

      Now…enter the online ad. Not an “in your face” ad, but a subtle ad that keys into exactly what you are thinking at the moment. You click on the ad and are presented with a thorough and convincing presentation of the product category (with compelling facts, details, and third party endorsements). This is followed by an offer for a specific product.

      Do you buy it? Or do you go off to a review site? Oh, wait. It’s a NEW product, so there are no reviews yet. But the product certainly sounds superior to everything else out there, costs less, and comes with a 30 day no risk satisfaction guarantee with full money back. And free shipping.

      So what do you do, skeptical internet user? Do you pay more and buy something that has a good review, but fewer features or reduced functionality? Or do you toast your good fortune at finding something newer and better?

      My bank account can answer that question, healthily.

      Advertising is not going away, ever. It may change it’s shape, but it will be with us always. And if not online, we’ll simply devise an assembly line way to tatoo ads on the backsides of stadium-sized groups of people.

    • Sawyer

      Most people don’t use ad blocking programs. Even if users aren’t directly looking at the ads they saw them and that builds the brand.

      I recently worked at an internet company that offered a valuable service for free for the first couple of years, after we built a solid user base we started to monetize with ads. Our users flipped out. Threatened to quit, demanded refunds (even though they didn’t pay anything).

      It really makes you want to b*tch slap them, shut down the site, and wish all these valuable services and content came off with us until all you have on the internet is Amazon, the yellow pages, porn, and torrent sites.

      But I held back on lashing out on my users, took the ads offline. I know that us internet entrepreneurs are responsible for figuring out a way to monetize these services, but a lot of smart people have been working on this for several years now and it has been difficult to figure out how to pay expensive programmers while giving away free storage, bandwidth and content.

    • http://david.ulevitch.com/ David Ulevitch

      Five years in Internet time is an eternity, so things are bound to be different, but there is one sure thing and it’s that advertising on the Internet will absolutely exist.

      Plus, if you look at the last time the online ad economy tanked, it was bigger than ever five years later when we had CPC and CPA ad models dominating over CPM. The same will be true again in five years, but with newer and better models that likely track ROI even better, both in brand and other forms.

    • http://www.broadbandevolved.com/my_weblog/2009/03/the-death-of-outbound-advertising.html The Death of Outbound Advertising | Broadband Evolved

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    • http://parallax.blogs.com Niel Robertson

      I think you may be confusing reason for purchase with product awareness. I don’t think anyone is claiming that most people buy products because of what an ad says. Conversely i think its ludicrous to imply that most products are introduced to consumers by them sifting through reviews. This is where the article’s author misses pretty much the point. Its like concluding that most runs in baseball are the sole result of someone getting from 3rd to home base and that all that part swinging at pitches is a non coupled part of the process we could do without.

    • http://www.joselise.com/wp/2009/03/23/links-for-2009-03-22/ links for 2009-03-22 at DeStructUred Blog

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    • http://soeet.com ChrisATSo33t

      If you want to build a node for this “paid highly available content” internet and get in on the ground floor, you can build the computer cluster you need for your region’s node for under 10,000$ USD

      http://picasaweb.google.com/soeet.com/HardwareRequirements

      please click on each of those 2 images I have compiled to view them.

      You may never get a chance like this again. Again my friend jeff will spawn the NYC region this summer and with a region in India, Asia and Europe we will have a real lock on this paid network world wide.

      Some said facebook was a walled garden, but this is a true walled garden because you have to pay to get inside.

      Anyone can sign up and have their content served by the CDN and earn money, Just like adsense but with no advertising.

      I have been planning this for a while and putting the software together to make it happen. Tomorrow I pick up the equipment and we start building our region’s node.

      Please contact me as this is a real opportunity. I’ve had a couple responses so far.

    • Jacques

      I think my previous comment wasn’t correctly posted, Im therefore posting it again, with a few additional lines… Sorry if it appears twice!

      Mr Clemons is right when he says that ads are not trusted by consumers, and Im talking about the majority of consumers (not only educated ones). In France more than 85% of the products purchased by INternet users (60% of the population) are directly influenced by online consumer reviews and conversations, not by ads!

      However I think that ads are very efficient when they are here to remind the consumers of the existence of a product or a brand, and consequently suggesting the purchase of a product. But they are obviously failing to convince consumers and direclty influence the purchase.. And that is why I agree with Mr Clemons, because I think that valuable ads are the ones that convince consumers..Ads we see in mass media or online websites are everything but convincing… Hence the fact that I think he’s right to predict the end of the advertising we know!

      Some of you should read (read again?) some of the 95 Theses of the Cluetrain Manifesto. Just remember that “markets have become conversations”, a conversation that companies obviously don’t offer through traditional advertising ( in mass media or online media). IN my opinion the future of brand advertising is in the genuine conversation advertisers will engage with their customers.

      The form of advertising we now know will probably be replaced or in the process of being replaced by another form of advertising, that would be more valuable both for consumers and advertisers.

    • pit

      this division of meatspace and virtual reality is as old as it nonsense. are you in bookspace when you read a book? or in radio space when you listen to the dial? this professor, as much i’d like to applaude his idea, seems to be rather clueless.

      the solution is quite obviously advertisement which people want, info about gadgets they dare for.

      anything which is blockable by some userscripts or firefox plugin, http proxy etc. has not much of a future. as well as it has no future to block access to content, when people want it they will find a way arround it. so you have to make people want the advertisement. as trivial as difficult isn it?

    • http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/03/22/the-internet-is-about-freedom/ The Internet Is About Freedom | The Noisy Channel

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    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shazwi_Suwandi/633792938 Shazwi Suwandi

      You clearly did not get my point did you? I said that the era of this – if you wanna put it, text advertising – is soon dead.

      And something needs to be done to either change the system totally and the way ads are presented or it will just die off…

      And what makes you think startups with just an ad revenue model will make it? Like those using adsense or banner ads…

    • Thomas Hawk

      Yep, pretty much 100% correct on most points. The next question is when does this take place from a timing perspective and what happens to Google.

    • Sam

      Can I ask everyone a question?

      Do you hate advertising? Or do you hate annoyingly designed ads that are pushing things you’d never want?

      I actually like well designed, unobtrusive ads that match my interests. That’s how I find new stuff. I’ve visited the site for “The Deck” because they have some cool new stuff to promote.

      I don’t really trust the review sites any more than I trust ads. I’ve even had close friends’ recommendations turn out to be not-so-good.

      I like good advertising because it lets me visit their site, check out what they have to offer, listen to their pitch, and make my own decision. Why do I need to “trust” anyone but my own decision making abilities?

    • Ernest Nova

      Lets flip this for a moment. I create a new product and stick it up on a web site. Now what ?

      It’s not going to telepathically get ingrained into my potential buyers. Call it what you will – I will need to “get the word” out, and I will use all methods at my disposal.

      Clearly, I want to be as efficient about it as I can so we can debate how the buyers and sellers could find each other at the buyers moment of need, assuming the buyer knows what s/he wants.

      Perhaps the buyer will advertise their needs instead ? Today, that is what they do when they search. For advertising to be effective, search has to become more effective – contextual, persistent.

      Heck, even in Nature all species advertise for survival – fruits, flowers, sounds, hormones. These are all broadcast technologies that have evolved over the centuries.

      So unless we are quibbling over semantics, advertisements from buyers/sellers are not going away as they both need to find each other.

      If the central message you wish to convey is that current methods of advertising are wasteful then you have agreement.

    • http://www.teethremoval.com wisdom teeth removal

      Without advertising there is not a whole lot of incentive to produce quality content on the internet.

    • http://quux.tumblr.com quux

      The backlash in the comments is … amazing.

      Advertising on the internet is in a very weird place right now. We like that fact that it pays for all the content we’re getting. So we don’t have to think about painful things like DRM and closed gardens. So we don’t have to think about … paying for what we get.

      But we also dislike advertising. We very quickly train our eyes to automatically avoid it as we surf the web. The more determined among us use browser plugins or other technical tricks to trap the ads, so they never see the ads and never have to teach their eyes the ad-avoidance trick.

      So. We like Sugar Daddy Advertising when he’s paying for the content – we don’t like him when he gets what he wants, which is our attention. But like any sugar daddy, he’ll stop paying our rent if we stop putting out for him.

      What happens then?

    • http://LetterRep.com Rob

      TV and Newspaper were presentation mediums; the Internet is a communications medium.

    • laughing

      @Hmm – It seems most of these peeps haven’t heard about a little company – ticker symbol GOOG.

      And how the CEO of another little company (ticker: MSFT) spends all his waking hours being jealous about GOOG’s ad revenues.

      Oh wait – the genius author thinks GOOG model won’t work any longer…

    • http://www.perfectmoney.com PM I Payment System

      I think this already the nature of “digital media”Internet as “the biggest accepted digital media should not selling things that require “delivery time”instead digital stuff like e book or virtual access is pretty good to start,in internet ,the best selling to sell is “the experienced of “Virtual domination,winning,acceptance and respect.

    • http://techfilipino.com Francis Simisim

      I agree, it’s all about the spending power of consumers. If they see ads and have the money to pay for it, it’ll be an effective means.

      It’s a great in depth article, *a must read*

      TechFilipino

    • http://techfilipino.com Francis Simisim

      Violation of TOS?

      TechFilipino

    • Tell me you’re being Swift-like…

      Heh… and how much does Google charge for all those other things you say they’re branching out to?

      Google makes it money by attracting more eyeballs than anyone else in the world. Be it GMail, search, Picasa, Shopping, Scholar, Code, Mobile, Maps, and the list goes on… they thrive as a business because they have more consumer eyeballs to send contextual ad traffic to than anyone else.

      Let’s not look at advertising as disappearing… as long as there is capitalism, there will be advertising. Let’s think about how it will evolve. In this one, I think Google is actually leading the pack… Radio and TV advertising was all about massive dumps of ads… in Internet, you can be far more targeted and relevant to what people are looking for. You want sprockets? Check out my online sprocket store – we also have thingamajoos, in case you want to connect your sprocket to the gizmo!

      An aside: The poster is wrong about Google letting you buy a higher position… it’s an urban legend of sorts, but it just doesn’t make good business sense and I’ve never seen any evidence of it. There are search engines that will let you do that, but Google’s not among them. Every initiative I’ve seen from them is to promote honest and fair placement of relevant organic links near the top of your results (excluding the small areas dedicated to advertisements that you can easily skim past).

      This isn’t because Google is a bunch of swell guys. It’s just good business.

      If you don’t get quality links from your search on Google, you’ll ultimately leave for a different search engine, right? If you leave, it’s one less revenue generator for them. This is why they also enforce strict rules about how you can advertise on Google… if people stop trusting Google ads, they stop clicking on them… and the value of their advertising drops.

      Sure, you can get some revenue through their blue box servers… but enough to run a company like Google?

      If we assume that all (publicly traded) companies are inherently selfish and driven by their bottom line, you can’t talk about all their free services and products without considering how those impact their bottom line.

      In this case, all the really great products and advances that Google gives out for free… they are free because you, the searcher, are more valuable to Google as an advertisement consumer than as a paying customer.

      This post was a rash, emotional rant – not something I’d expect from a Wharton guy. There are too many assumptions and the most obscure, anecdotal, and unsubstantiated pieces of… evidence.

      I vote that this guy is either A) talking waaaaay outside of his field, or B) trying to make a Swiftian argument that missed the mark on satire.

    • http://www.kalboard.com writing boards

      totally agree with write , if you see increase in advertise on your blog…good for you we are talking about general here

    • http://www.whatimouk.com/index.htm limo london

      well it was expected always isnt it considering the amount of work that goes for it and the markets in such turbulent times.

    • http://www.4delite.com MsM

      “The problem is not the medium, the problem is the message, and the fact that it is not trusted, not wanted, and not needed.”

      Advertising is not solely about the message, but also who is receiving the message and in what context. Advertising as ad units and disruptions within an online experience is of course ineffective and will constantly fight the battle of conversion. But the right message, context and audience alignment can and does work — which is why I agree with the your point about contextual mobile ads, but feel that this can also carry over to the Internet with the appropriate permissions by audiences.

    • http://www.dogballsblog.com marc

      I find it ironic to say the least that the author’s link to “consumers do not need advertising” links to his article in ad-supported ‘forbes.com.’ Talk about biting the hand the hand that feeds him.

    • http://postlinearity.com gregorylent

      obvious for at least two years ..

    • correction

      Internet was and will be run by ads. But a correction in prices was needed, thats all. Interactive display ads is what i expect in future.

    • http://www.misanthropytoday.com Misanthropy Today

      Making a prediction like this in the middle of the rubble is not exactly prophetic.

      I think what will change on the web is the arbitrary pricing of online inventory. If your rate card says $10CPM but you’re only making $2 then your price is, maybe, $2.25 CPM.

      Online advertising will have to be based on real life supply/demand numbers— possibly something similar to the dutch auction system, or maybe just the stock market system we’re all familiar with.

      I know from experience that there are a lot of publishers out there making .50 eCPM while holding out for their $10 rate card prices. This is bad for everyone. They would be better off to let the market decide what their CPMs are and let it rise and fall on it’s own merits.

      @BrendaDireen smugly claims that she’s NEVER done any advertising and just wisely markets her product. And it shows. Her site has an alexa rating of 14 million and a page rank of 0.

      Apparently she’s never paid for a web developer either (re: her homepage lands on /page1.aspx.. smells templated)

      It’s smart to trim advertising spends right now. But it’s not smart to do so forever. Sooner or later, someone in Brenda Direen’s screen printing/embroidery business in the Columbus area will take a gamble on some advertising and will eat her lunch.

      And pepsi and coke.

      And toyota and hyundai.

      Etc.

      Companies will always want to show consumers their new products, they just need to force more cost effective options to emerge, and I think this recession will do just that.

    • http://radial-sprite.com/New-Media/?p=61 Through the LCD clearly » Blog Archive » Links 03/22/09

      [...] Advertising on the Internet Failing? , An professor believes so. I’m not sure how I feel about some of the points. Worth a read [...]

    • http://www.Frankentipps.de Klaus Wolfrum

      We provide an event portal in the metropolitan region of Nueremberg. It`s not access cost for consumer, not an affiliating concept e.g. ticketing provision, it is completely ads free.

      …but nevertheless the portal is one of the few profitable portal concept of an regional portal in germany.

      A Slide of the business concept:
      http://www.slideshare.net/Klaus_Wolfrum/online-event-advertising-the-concept-of-the-event-portal-frankentippsde

      It should only be an impuls how to develope and monetarizing content concepts. It has a great potential.

      I believe in some points
      - make a bill for digitalism and providing information, not only sell ads
      - quality first, then quantity
      - local first (think global, surf local)

      - digitalism service!!!
      a lots of companies have no time for internet, esp. web 2.0 workings.

      last not least: I am sure, that we increase in future our pricelist for advertising, not reduce.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kapil_Tundwal/500091684 Kapil Tundwal

      “Pushing a message at a potential customer when it has not been requested and when the consumer is in the midst of something else on the net, will fail as a major revenue source for most internet sites.”

      This is exactly what TV advertisements are. How do you explain its success?

    • http://www.biglife.ws/profile/victorydarwin victory darwin

      STAY OUT OF THE REAL WORLD OF BUSINESS ON THE WEB Mr. Eric Clemons.

      You’ll starve, or be eaten alive. Actually before that happens you’ll probably be BEAT TO DEATH BY SOMEONE LIKE ME who imagined your whiny nerd voice in my head as I was reading the article. I almost went crazy, but then I just skimmed the last 80% to save my sanity. I normally wouldn’t post a reply but I feel so compelled to tell you I think you’re a total idiot. I’m glad the world can read this article attached to your name and know it too.

      The tragedy is all those university students who think they’re getting an education from your shit work!

    • Someone

      What you just described is my job. And yes, it’s all quite profitable. Honestly, business is up for many.

    • Vlad B

      Sucks to say it, but it’s not about the customer. Advertising drives sales. That is, done effectively, it makes you, the advertiser, more money than you had before. Which is why you and I and everybody else will continue to do it, but no, not blindly.

    • Boris

      I’ve recently quit my day job to become self-employed doing internet marketing full time. I only do CPA. Traditional advertisers are only going to flock to the CPA model more now that times are tough – they only have pay on returns. And I get paid on performance. Win-win as far as I am concerned.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stuart_Carleton_Eichert/518547549 Stuart Carleton Eichert

      Curious what Professor Clemons thinks about klickable.tv (founded by a Wharton grad). With Klickable, you watch videos you are interested in and if you see something in the video that you want, you click on it for more info and a way to purchase. Is it still advertising?

    • NYCtek

      Whew. If anything sounds like a con job, its this post!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy_Hilal/506613301 Andy Hilal

      I had written a more detailed response, but I no longer think it’s worth posting.

      This “guest post” is naive, simplistic, reductive, states a bunch of random claims as if they were self-evident, and ignores the past 50 years of media history in favor of the last 5 years of what’s hot among internet elite.

      There are probably intelligent things to say on this subject but they ain’t here.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy_Hilal/506613301 Andy Hilal

      Who the hell are you? Using the word “indeed” as some kind of comeback proof is ridiculous. Declaring the death of a 100-year old business model with NO DATA is laughable. Arguing with the commenters in our own post is pathetic. I can’t believe I’m even bothering to post this follow up. Worst TC post ever. And there have been some bad ones.

    • http://cooeesearch.com/2009/03/23/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet — Cooee Search

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    • Jeff

      To you and the person above who called this “looong”, this is 20 paragraphs, around the size of a typical NY Times article, a few factors less than a feature. If this is too long for you to keep up with, then you need to invest in some ritalin.

      As for you in particular, you might want to look in the mirror when you’re accusing others of using too many words to state their point. You could have gotten yours across by eliminating all but the last sentence.

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    • http://mdcm2000.newsouthblogs.org/2009/03/23/thinking-a-little-about-advertising-and-attention/ thinking a little about advertising and attention | mdcm2000
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    • http://alexschleber.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/controversial-post-lot-of-food-for-thought-here-why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet-excerpt-my-footnote/ Controversial post, lot of food for thought here: “Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet” excerpt + my footnote « Mind Hacks, Life Hacks, Personal Development

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    • paul

      thank GOODNESS someone read that and translated… I don’t have that much time.

    • The Ivory Tower

      Its hard to take an article like this seriously from a person who has never had a commerical job in his whole life. Yes, he has consulted with companies, but its not the same as being employed by a company.

      Click to see his CV:
      http://opim.wharton.upenn.edu/~clemons/files/Clemons_CV2006.pdf

    • http://www.grahamjones.co.uk/ Graham Jones – Internet Psychologist

      Advertising has always had a problem, no matter which medium it is from. The problem is it is an “interruption”. When we are midway through our favourite TV programme, engrossed by the action, suddenly our brain is hit by an interruption about a new car, or some breakfast cereal. When we are reading a good article in a magazine we turn the page eager to read the next section when – wham – we are interrupted by an advert for a new laptop, or whatever. This is a real problem for advertisers because most people hate being interripted in what they are currently motivated to do. That’s why most advertising fails. Luckily, the big brands can make money because the few people who do accept the interruption part with their money. Study after study shows consistently that most people ignore or distrust advertising. However, as an advertiser if you spend enough, have loads of different kinds of interruptions, eventually you get noticed by enough people and you can sell more of your products and services.

      Online, though, there’s a real problem for the advertisers. It appears that the online reader pays even less attention to interruptions – except those for which they are mentally prepared (such as Facebook pokes, contacts from friends, emails, instant messages etc). In other words, we are (online) much happier to accept interruptions but they must come from people we want to be interrupted by.

      Traditional forms of advertising – transferring the offline world to the online world – will fail, as this article suggests – in the Web 2.0, interactive world we now inhabit. But if advertisers turn themselves in to trusted friends, their interruptions will be accepted. Not only that, they will be more likely to be acted upon than traditional adverts. In other words, if advertisers ditch their old fashioned methods and become “social” they will make more money than they ever dreamed possible. The problem is that, still, the advertising industry has clients which don’t “get” the interactive online world and think that all they need to do is have a banner with a link, as though that is “interaction”.

      Traditional advertising will die – just as those old fashioned TV adverts from black and white TV days died. Online advertising will change – it is just at the moment that the advertisers themselves are struggling to accept they now live in a different world.

    • The Ivory Tower

      Actually, its kind of fitting that I feel exactly the same way about this article as Dr. Clemons feels about advertising:
      1) I dont trust his opinion
      2) I dont want to hear/read his opinion
      3) I dont need his opinion

      Arrington, wrong forum for this type of guy.

    • http://www.pasteris.it/blog/2009/03/23/i-dolori-delladvertising-on-line/ I dolori dell’advertising on-line – Vittorio Pasteris

      [...] Via TechCrunch The expected drop in internet advertising revenues this year was neither unpredictable nor unpredicted, nor was it caused solely by the general recession and the decline in retail sales.  Internet advertising will rapidly lose its value and its impact, for reasons that can easily be understood.  Traditional advertising simply cannot be carried over to the internet, replacing full-page ads on the back of The New York Times or 30-second spots on the Super Bowl broadcast with pop-ups, banners, click-throughs on side bars. … [...]

    • http://mochachilo.wordpress.com Kartikay

      I though the focus on advertising was more on “brand recognition” of a companys products or services.

      the fact that canon has an ad blurting at me doesnt mean that i’ll go out and buy myself a canon camera – its just that i know it exists, and its a big enough company to afford that slot. And if i already own a canon, wow, i feel great that i made a good popular purchase (this last point is open to interpretation).

      i remember i bought an external hard drive of a company i hadn’t heard of before (but i read many many positive reviews). a week or two later, i saw its ad. and i felt happy, that i made a good purchase. probably ill buy it again, or tell others that that brand exists!!

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    • http://www.wannadevelop.com wannadevelop.com

      What a hot topic!

      I think we are all going to be just fine though and things will pick up at the end of 2009 hopefully.

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    • http://www.kreeo.com Sumeet

      High Time the model changed…Current financial crisis may lead to emergence of next level of innovation in online advertising, where in its more reader friendly, transparent and advertisers generate more value per $

    • jason

      Nice reply Jason. I have two words for Mr. Clemons – email marketing. Companies everywhere are still developing their email marketing strategies. So, here we have a technique (glorified spam aka targeted email) that originated long before display was even close to being mature and all of the email marketing companies I know are actually growing in this recession. I would say this is a good gauge of where the majority of consumers’ heads are at in terms of receptiveness to advertising. The idea that advertising models are dead is ridiculous. Of course, as in all mediums innovation needs to continue but Clemons is premature and plain out of touch in many of his observations. Peace and chicken grease.

    • http://greenobile.com Mikey

      Despite there being very different opinions, this article stimulated some creative thought in my head. And imagination is what marketers need.

      So I give props to the prof! Thx Dr. Clemons and I look forward to more.

    • http://netireklaam.com/2009/03/miks-internetireklaam-korbeb/ Miks internetireklaam kõrbeb – Netireklaami Keskus

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    • http://fejta.com/record/1319/hate-commericals-blame-the-federal-reserve.html Erick’s Blog » Hate Commericals? Blame the Federal Reserve

      [...] and Information Management at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, gives a dim forecast for advertising’s future: Advertising will fail for three reasons: There are three problems with advertising in any form, [...]

    • Timm

      Misdirection is clearly Google’s business model. Why would anyone buy ads if their products/websites would show up on top of search results anyway?

      Just try to search for a certain product – you will most certainly find ads for competitor offerings in the ad section.

      The more important question is: Will the misdirectional business model of advertising be replaced by something else in the future? This will depend on the ratio of [Transaction costs to gather trusted information] vs. [Consumer acceptance level for trusting potentially misguiding advertising] – be it banner ads, search ads or whatever…

    • http://lenalindstrom.blogspot.com Lena

      What a strange article – considering ad tracking becoming smarter and smarter – surely online is the only way of advertising that will grow just because of this?

      Think few could actually say that advertising is failing on the internet… most of my friends would be out of jobs!

    • http://www.iflexion.com Iflexion

      Yes, it would be interesting, because organic search is THE FUTURE. And those who change faster would be most benefited. It would be nice to read an article on this topic. David Dalka, you are welcome. :)

    • http://deceblog.net/2009/03/reclama-pe-internet-fara-solutii/ Reclama pe internet – fara solutii? – dece? blog

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    • http://friendfeed.com/pooxi David Berrebi

      Excellent post but a bit extreme right now ;)

    • http://friendfeed.com/sampadswain Sampad Swain

      Excellent post to prude over but conclusively lacking a lot. Nonetheless, appreciate such debatable topics!

    • http://broadstuff.com/archives/1624-Google-Search-Ads-Misdirected-Advertising,-evolutionary-dead-end.html broadstuff

      Google Search Ads – Misdirected Advertising, evolutionary dead end?…

      Fascinating article on the Future of Advertising in TechCrunch yesterday, from Wharton Professor of Operations Eric Clemons. In essence he is arguing that Advertising will change radically in the online world as it is no longer fit for purpose:

      …m…

    • Robotto

      All this makes sense, but I think this article essentially states the obvious from a very rational and academic point of view. The author (a very rational person) relies a bit too much on his own experience and preferences to draw conclusions. This type of rational analysis doesn’t convince me because much of how advertising works is irrational. It reminds me of a story I heard about the newspaper that the US army was distributing during the Vietnam war. (My memory of the details might be fuzzy.) At first, the army had no ads in it. Rationally speaking this makes perfect sense. Nobody is supposed to want to see ads, and these soldiers can’t go shopping anyway. But oddly, they all missed advertising and requested that they be added.

      Seduction is a game we play and enjoy in life. We have a love-and-hate relationship with it. So, we might say we hate ads when we think about it rationally, but when they are completely gone, we realize that we miss them because we all secretly love to be seduced.

      So, my sense is that advertising is not going away any time soon, not on any mediums. What we are seeing is a massive musical chair where the power structure of the advertising industry is collapsing. We are in the middle of a “creative destruction”. This does not mean that the industry as a whole will fail.

      Another thing that this author fails to address is the needs on the advertiser’s side. The article is written strictly from the consumer’s point of view. We all have a fundamental need to let other people know that we exist. Our resumes and business cards are a very basic form of advertising in this sense. This need is so great that many advertisers are willing to pay to advertise despite the fact that advertising doesn’t make much rational sense.

      So much of what we do socially are irrational and inefficient. I often get annoyed by how long it takes for people to leave a party because everyone has to say goodbye to everyone else. Most of us don’t really enjoy this process and are itching to get out as fast as possible. But at the same time, we feel a bit hurt if someone leaves the party without saying goodbye to us. If we were all perfectly rational, we could establish a policy for the party that says, “No saying goodbye to anyone.” If it’s a policy that everyone follows, we don’t need to feel hurt, and we can all get out very quickly. But are we so rational?

      Advertising is a social dialogue much like saying goodbye at a party. We don’t hate it as much as we think we do. And, so, we cannot analyze it with a rational and efficiency-based model. I do not believe that advertising on the Internet is failing. I think it will succeed fine.

    • Timo

      The furthest put options for GOOG are for Jan 2011. Google has too much money in the bank and thus too much inertia to crash and burn in two years.

    • Eoin

      Selling access, already done at seobook.com, seems to be doing ok for Aaron.

    • http://mjroseblog.typepad.com/buzz_balls_hype/2009/01/the-doctor-is-in.html M.J. Rose

      The advertising I do through Authorbuzz.com for books proves quite the opposite of this article.

      Our ads are announcements -hopefully creatively done – that let readers know about what’s out there. A key to having it work it placement – the right site/blog for the right book.

      Last month we got the highest ever click through rate on an ad at Huffpo -3.8% and my client saw the results in actual sales at Amazon all week long since the ad linked there. There is absolutely nothing in tradtiional media that works as well as an ad like that.

      Like everything else we’re in the midst of a digital revolution and we won’t know for a while what works best – but there are certainly things working right now.

    • mark

      internet advertising is falling this year??

    • http://guilmain.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/la-fin-de-la-publicite-sur-internet/ La fin de la publicité sur internet ? « Guilmain’s Weblog

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    • Shawn

      I don’t really see this as advertisement failing…

      Suppose we entertain the notion, for a moment, that consumers are not reacting to the same branding techniques that have worked for decades. This is an age where everything is about being fresh, new, eco-friendly, healthy, and functional.

      I’ll give an example. I was in the supermarket yesterday, and I saw two brands of coffee sweetener on the shelf. One was regular sugar packets in a yellow and white (quite ugly) package. The other was Coca-Cola’s brilliantly packaged Truvia. I remembered seeing it around, and on reading the back of the package I found it was made from the plant, Stevia. This immediately fired something off in my mind of once following a link to an article about that particular plant and how derivatives can help prevent diabetes. I suppose I don’t need to mention that Truvia went into my basket, while the old sugar stayed on the shelf.

      I could go into analysis on why I picked up that package… but I think you guys are smart enough to think it through yourself if you so wish.

    • Shawn

      I think you’ll find that those “sensationalist headlines” are actually part of his thesis. He’s just writing a well structured article.

    • http://www.gerardbabitts.com Gerard

      It’s interesting to see the level of vitriol from some about Clemons’ points.

      While I think he may have focused on extremes, I also believe he is on to something. Transferring traditional advertising models online has not and will not work. I’m surprised he didn’t bring up ad blocking and horrible click-thru rates, recall, and banner blindness studies to back up more of his argument about people never even seeing the ads thrown at them.

      The larger point is that advertisers online need to better understand how consumers digest brands and products and adjust their approach. Search, Social Media, Conversations, etc. It’s about conforming to the culture online and figuring out how to touch your consumers online.

    • Shawn

      Descartes was talking about natural sciences… scientific method… not about economic analysis, which is far from being a science.

    • rob

      Oh why not. People zip-through-TV-ads thoughts are at most not terribly relevant. Saving time–and the amount of commercials allowed is ridiculous. Avoiding loud, oft-crummy commercials is something entirely different from seeing ads on a site.

      Will enough people pay for content in the FT model? Good question, though seeming to use a personal willingness in some cases to extrapolate broader use feels questionable. Dunno if enough people will do it to fund FT, etc., or nichier things like a site for boxing or sailing or 16-century Scottish poetry.

      In that realm, a sense that enough people aren’t kooks, realize that the ads they see, be they plumbed in by Google or sold by the site–and may find useful because they are targeted to a niche audience–are a necessary part of the site’s existence.

      The big one, newspapers, is a massive question. I would be willing to give a couple newspaper sites something like $5-$10, go through that at something like a nickel, dime or quarter per article, I’ve no guess if enough other people would, nobody else seems to know, but we may well find out.

      Specific points aside, this reads like a lot of grand claims with little to back up the contentions or at least a lot of really questionable supporting evidence.

      Oh, lapsing into something pretty much “I said in ’99 that Pets.com and Webvan wouldn’t work so I are smart” does not enhance your position. More than a few people were saying as much on the time and plenty of people in the street were chortling at some length.

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    • http://richi.co.uk/ Richi Jennings

      1995 called. They want their irrational fear of Web advertising back.

    • Fairflow

      The tips (Green Sea of Heaven) were great, yes. In fact I bought the book on the spot (yes, via Amazon, bless them!), though I’ve passed on the basketball shoes. But the point of the article is that it wasn’t advertising. It was information from a source that appears trustworthy, since no ulterior motive for the recommendation is visible. So I trust it and act on it in buying something. Tony appears not to trust it, so for him, perhaps, it is advertising.

    • http://messel.typepad.com/ Mark Essel

      Well thought post, interesting hypothesis, and enjoyable read, thanks.
      A true predictor will wager that their predictions are correct. I’m not sure this article belongs here, maybe on a paid content or “free” site?

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    • Reuben Brunson

      If advertising is failing, would you mind if I ran a banner ad on your site for free? Thanks in advance!

    • http://blog.merjis.com/2009/03/23/why-advertising-is-decreasing/ Why Advertising Is Decreasing | Merjis Internet Marketing Blog

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    • http://www.culturalfuel.com Alexander Wipf

      Apart from the fact that this is true, isn’t this a bit outdated? When was this written? I think everyone has understood by now that there is no market for messages anymore, right and that there are better ways to ensure brand success than to create single-mindet 1:Many messaging.

    • http://www.twitter.com/brewton BREWTON

      To claim an article that is packed with such substantive research is “lame and long” is a lame, ill-conceived response. The professor is documenting a disruptive innovation that by definition “shatters” the system it replaces. Advertising as an industry will surely continue, but it will have a fundamentally new form that is shaped by the evolution of consumer culture that the Internet has forced. It seems to me that too often technologists and Net advocates choose to disregard the historically relevant teachings and observations of those who have long monitored the progress and cycles of our economy. Have some respect and try to learn something people!

      BREWTON

    • Brian

      You say the internet is about freedom yet you say that your willing to pay. I do not understand this concept.

      By using money to access freedom, you are putting a restriction on freedom. Which makes that freedom, not free. In more ways then one.

      If the internet did really represent freedom then you wouldn’t have to pay to access anything. Money should not buy freedom. Freedom should be free.

    • http://friendfeed.com/kevindwhite Kevin D. White

      An interesting commentary with a lot of unsupported claims.

    • http://www.litkicks.com Levi Asher

      A modest rebuttal with a personal angle. Clemons wrote a good article, but it paints too bleak a picture of this exciting field.

    • http://www.killerblog.com/advertising-revenue-is-dropping-why/ Advertising Revenue is Dropping, Why? | KillerBlog

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    • Hmm

      Text ads will ONLY die when something BETTER comes.

      Just like banner ads ONLY began to disappear as something better came.

      So essentially you are saying that the online ad market will be changing, right? If that’s the case, then, well, doh? No need to get all sensationalist with the ads-are-gonna-be-dead-lalala.

      Whether ad dependent-startups make it or not has little relevance to where the ad market goes. For example, simply because ad-dependent startups die would not mean that the ad industry will also be dead.

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    • Shawn

      The things that really need to be free can be free without advertisement… and always have. Open source projects and free culture can run off of the industriousness of the participants.

      The only thing paying for web content does is increase the quality of the content and prove that you have a job. Whinging about having to pay for premium content is about as effective (and respectable) as whinging about paying monthly fees for online games.

    • http://friendfeed.com/kylehase kylehase

      didn’t read the post but I’d guess ad-block plus and noscript.

    • http://thinkwhere.wordpress.com Tim

      I wonder about some of the negative reactions to this article. Do they feel personally threatened by the views of the author? I find that quite revealing.

      I think the first thing we will see before the “death” of advertising is larger bigger brasher online ads. As screen space becomes cheaper, we’ll see them take up more space on our screens.

      Building a brand is important, it’s why companies sponsor events, sports etc, and with the internet, why more agencies are looking towards things like Alternate Reality Games. It’s not overt advertising at all. “be proud, not loud” is one of the mantras – sometimes the sponsoring company isn’t revealed until the very end. The idea being that they would rather have one person with a very favourable view of their brand, than ten hundred who don’t care one way or the other. That one positive person will transmit their views to others around him, to his social network. This is how a brand can grow.

      So, we could see advertisers playing a greater role in creative on-line endeavours, open source projects – anywhere there is a community online.

    • http://twitter.com/davidjlowe David J Lowe

      I totally agree with the article. Advertisers have become complacent by assuming that the big clients will continue to fund their businesses with repeat orders. As the internet has begun to take over and become more effective than print advertising, it has created the classic ‘sink or swim’ scenario. In a similar way to the economic recession exposing the pretenders & urging the entrepreneurs to rise out of the ashes, the internet is allowing the innovators to rise to the top leaving companies unwilling to change in their wake.

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    • http://www.groupereye.com Ted Williams

      I agree with this article. Period. I flat out agree. Sure it is going to take time for all of this to happen, but it will.

    • http://friendfeed.com/thomashawk Thomas Hawk

      this post is pretty much right on the money with regards to the future of advertising on the web. The question is what happens to Google in all this.

    • http://www.flexewebs.com Jason Grant

      Much of this article is well thought through, well written and on the money.

      One thing where the author misses the point about advertising is that a massive aspect of advertising is the brand building aspect.

      The author assumes that (very soon) we will be living in the world of ‘perfect search’, which isn’t the case.

      Finding right things online will become more difficult with time, as different types of data come to existence.

      My point is that often a time ‘the search’ itself will be the advertised item.

      I will be running a web site (a mini-social network) for example about Fly-Fishing in UK and it will have 50000 users whose opinions I will value.

      To get to that web site I will need to be aware of it’s ‘brand’ (i.e. the domain name).

      Once I know the domain name I will go there directly all the time, but I NEED to first know the domain name off by heart and that’s where advertising plays a massive part.

      Human mind (if it doesn’t know how to find something) will go to the most trusted source they know of.

      People often type in the brand name of Amazon into Google to go to Amazon.com to buy an iPod although they know that they can find cheaper deal through Google Shopping from some_unknown_retailer.com where they don’t want to leave their credit card details to be stored forever.

      What am I saying? The very notion of advertising is neuro linguistic programming of human mind to remember a given brand, so that when they are hungry they first think of McDonalds and that when they are thirsty they first think of Coca Cola (or any other Coca Cola owned ‘healthy’ beverage).

      For these purposes we need the glossy, polar bear, big, fancy, well-inspired, cool-image based ‘no return’ ads, which are actually the very concept of ‘product building’ itself.

      Hope this makes sense.

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    • http://www.marketingprofs.com Allen Weiss

      The problems you state have been around for a long time

      1. That consumers have lower trust for commercial messages has been shown in research going back decades, yet advertising still exists

      2. Consumers have rarely “wanted” to view advertising, except at the Super Bowl

      3. Consumers never really “needed” advertising and have always gotten information from other sources. The internet has made that easier, but this isn’t a new problem.

      It seems that these are old arguments, possibly with some new urgency. But why not look at this from a marketing perspective. That is, the purpose of advertising has been to build brand name awareness as well as support brand attitudes.

      In short, like a lot of other proclamations about the end of things (the end of paper, the end of radio, the end of big companies, the end of vertical integration, etc.), isn’t this a bit overstated?

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    • http://openmode.ca Malcolm Bastien

      I dearly hope more time and money goes into research and testing of new models online and not just attempts to save traditional advertising.

      Advertising seems too much like an inefficient solution in this day and age to warrant survival. There are other systems that are out pacing advertising, which have been steadily gaining for years. It was just a matter of time.

    • http://jedwar.com/2009/03/23/is-online-advertising-failing-or-is-it-just-the-recession/ Is online advertising failing or is it just the recession? « Jedwar.com

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    • http://briancostello.wordpress.com/ Brian

      Nice piece, but the idea that “advertising is dead” is more an academic exercise than anything else. Anyone IN advertising already knows that consumers don’t need it, don’t want it, and don’t trust it. Yet, they continually respond to it, talk about it, and in some cases ask for it.

      Professors love to chat about the death of advertising, it gives them something to do (since they generally aren’t working all that hard), it’s fun , and it’s “controversial.”

      The job of someone in advertising is to come up with ways to engage consumers in a brand — this has changed over the years, and will continue to do so. The form may shift, but the ultimate strategy does not — in the very simplest of terms, the job of someone in advertising is to get people to buy the brands’ stuff, tell a friend about it, and buy it again. Using that model means that we use whatever we can to get in front of the consumer. The medium (and media) may change, but that’s not the point, is it? Good advertisers focus on the core element — selling shit – and then coming up with ways to sell said shit.

    • http://www.mosaicwebsolutions.com Yves

      True

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    • http://my-miki.com/start/kiosk.jsp Harald

      A very interesting article and an even more interesting amount of feedbacks.

      I agree with the author, that advertising need to change when it comes to the web.

      Here my 5 cents:
      - it must fit with the content (luxury ads in e.g. fashion titles)
      - it must fit the style of the content (almost leads to an auction to accept ads instead of begging for it)
      - the web is multi-channel medium, so advertisers need to accept that users even comment on their ads
      - if the ad (be it static, be it dynamic (Flash, Video)) the end user must have the ability to take it along, if he/she likes it
      - a few more things to consider

      Most of which we enabled in our publishing platform – howver, the advertiser needs to “play” along … an evangelist task …

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    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom_Messner/1408963742 Tom Messner

      Trusted, needed, and wanted.
      So the goal of successful advertising, then, is to make it trusted and needed and , therefore, wanted.
      True of all advertising, no matter the medium.

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    • http://niche-affiliate-marketing.com Niche Affiliate Marketing

      First off online advertising won’t die. It might get regulated but won’t die. Even if it died, us affiliate marketers will find ways to reach out to the audience and still make money. How do you suppose the 20 years affiliate marketers are making $5000 a day through online advertising? There are ways.

    • http://www.CrustyBytes.com Don Bain

      I read your post twice. During second time I did a thought experiment where I imagined it was written in the time of radio as the established media, considering the emergence of TV as new media, and the consequences to advertising — effectively doing a mental replace of “internet” with “TV.” Of course nuance and details are different, but I could imagine the fundamental issues with advertising you raise were true then as we made that media jump with our attention. That is, advertising is not very satisfying in terms of trust, effectiveness, value, etc. We have not yet invented scalable, better alternatives for companies. Please do.

      Second, we do not realize how accustomed we are to ambient advertisements and how gray our surroundings would be without them. This struck me as I watched a company build a virtual replica of a baseball stadium in Second Life. Without the signs, banners and logos of advertisers, it simply did not look right. I had the same reaction seeing the streets of some Eastern European cities before their economies opened up, including opening to brands and advertisers.

      I look forward to new, better and more engaging ways for companies and customers to get together, and hope you’ll point your brightest students at the challenge. db

    • johnny3000

      Too high level. Proves, nor points out anything of substance. Should probably spend a little more time in the field to figure out exactly how the advertising strategies and systems work.

    • http:www.toadstoolblog.com Alan Wolk

      While you make some valid points about the role of independent research in consumer purchasing decisions– a very radical change in behavior enabled by the internet– I think your argument has a serious blind spot in regards to brand or image advertising.

      Consumer recommendations, expert reviews, et al, are fine when there is a clear distinction between products.

      But when several products in a category are equal, it will be the brand image advertising message that distinguishes one from the other.

      Similarly, if I am starting to research what car I should buy, the cars whose ads project the image that best suits my needs will be the ones I google (or ClemonsSearch™) first.

      The good news is that image advertising is generally the kind we don’t mind seeing: it’s not particularly hardsell and often clever, charming and funny.

      As Howard Gossage, a legendary adman of the 1950s said many years ago: “People read what interests them. Sometimes it’s an ad.”

      The internet doesn’t change that truth.

    • Insights

      Actually it was a very insightful article and I think everyone who took a very defensive position is either involved in the online ad business or cannot see past a 1 year timeframe. Mike was very courageous to have that article up since he makes his money through advertising.

      Anyways, advertising does work to a point by getting the company name and brand out there. But I think this works best on TV and radio with print magazines/newspapers coming in a far second where you are casually browsing or reading. On the web, people are actually doing something whether it be searching for something, reading a blog, or whatever. This is different in the sense that when you are relaxing you may just listen to a commercial because it entertains you. When you are actively doing something, you don’t want any distractions and just want to complete the task on hand. This is simply why I have never clicked or even look at ads on the web.

      And the argument that models like Google are working is not a good argument. Just because something may work in the meantime does not mean it is a great idea that will always work. There may just not be a better solution which is the current case. There are many companies trying to find this better solution because when you are doing a search for something on Google, how relevant are the ads on the side? Do you ever click on them? And if you do, does it lead to a transaction?

      I think this professor knows exactly what he is talking about and is years ahead of his time. People that disagree either can’t or don’t want to see it. But years from now, you’ll realize just how wrong you were.

      One more point. I do disagree when he says all people find ads untrustworthy. But he is right to a point. People are skeptical when someone is trying to sell them something. The problem is that people don’t do their won research or due diligence to find a solution that works for them. So they may sign up for something and then complain about it rather than doing the proper research to find the best solution. Anyways, ads can help by letting people know of the company so they can check out what they offer and research them. But as I said before, this works best on TV/radio rather than on the net. And this may be due to the fact that so many small, unknown companies can advertise for very little money while large well known companies advertise on tv/radio. This may lead to the untrustworthy feelings.
      While it is good that small companies have a chance to advertise, it does lead to many websites that either scam the user or don’t offer exactly what they want.

    • Will V

      I can agree to the fact that no one likes to be interrupted via eblast or pop up banners etc… I also agree that most of us a capable of searching for relevant information when we are motivated to buy. We visit the corporate website, ask friends, post comments in various social communities we are involved in, etc… so this is all valid.

      There is one point that I would like to challenge. If no one (literally) ever gets advertising messages, then where does anyone get information or content to share or to blog about? What do we end up posting on Facebook or Twitter about? Just think of the how greatly the amount of information sharing will be reduced if no one ever got advertising messages. I mean come on… how many people actually have time to sit there all day searching for product information and sharing it?? If we never got advertising messages, then how would we ever know that a product exists? or if our favorite brand has just released a new product.

      As much as we, as consumers, don’t like getting interrupted by advertising messages, we need it. We may not admit it or deny it, but we love getting advertised to.

      In my opinion, internet advertising only fails if there is a lack of relevance. As marketers/advertisers, we must understand that we should only communicate content that is relevant to the target. There are lots of great tools for targeted advertising available.

    • Robert Mattar

      Tim, I agree with your point of view.

      Content is ultimately the unique selling point. Whether it be the content of a website or the content of an advertisement.

      Just because consumers have more choice and control does not kill advertising. In fact we are fortunate that the decline in online advertising is actually substantially less then many other industries. Without advertising a lot of the content online would not have been created.

      What we are seeing in terms of ad spend is a correction being driven by the challenges in the global economy. Hopefully this will drive innovation and create new opportunities.

      Advertising is by no means dying… it is merely evolving!

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    • Cynthia Typaldos

      I agree with Professor Clemons.

      Two years ago I attended a panel of 4 VCs (here in Silicon Valley) who all claimed the billions of dollars of offline advertising was going to move to the internet, that the only issue was the mechanism wasn’t yet perfected. A few brave souls in the audience attempted to challenge that belief…and were immediately shot down.
      http://www.sdforum.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Calendar.eventDetail&eventID=12864

      It’s two years later and where is this miraculous online advertising mechanism?

      What’s bizarre is that it’s pretty obvious advertising (except for search) doesn’t work on the internet by simply watching one’s own behavior! And no, those of us reading TechCrunch are not smarter than everyone else.

    • jordan

      Yes friends, yes professor, ADVERTISING as we know it is D-E-A-D for all of the reasons in this post and more.

      That said, paying for content will not be the future of digital media.

      The good Dr. Clemons is dating himself and using his own out of touch experience to posit the future. The professor buys periodicals and fancy headphones that cost more than his iPod (not to mention bow ties). Please friends, ask the next generation of human folk if they buy music or any kind of content (aka “virtual thing”). The fact is, to the audience who matters, the people we are building our products and businesses for, content is free, it’s not a question anymore, it just is. You should also ask these same youngsters if they place more value on information coming from a friend, a blog, an advertiser or the New York Times. You will find the scale somewhat balanced (tipped to friends and blogs), and that they don’t value information more if it is disseminated by The New York Times or an advertiser.

      As for fixing it and the future? We can’t. It’s shattered. It’s powder. We need to build a new one, and it can’t be based on the advertising message — an interstitial, interruptive, and most of the time randomly placed burst of media. It’s not helping anyone, the consumer, the publisher and corporations that need to sell their products to survive. And it can’t be based on anything virtual (I think fellow commenters have provided the “why” on this one.)

      So please proffer, spare us, don’t guess about the future. Grab a cheesesteak, be honest with yourself, and let’s think about how to really make this thing of ours work.

    • http://www.experienceadvertising.com Evan

      The internet is the best thing that every happened to the business world. Companies just need to know how to leverage internet advertising properly to get the most out of it. Most companies don’t spend nearly enough on growing their organic search, PPC or affiliate programs.

    • Steve Goldner

      I think this article is smack on and further validates that the “media industry” is stuck in a legacy mindset. As I have commented on other blogs (my focus is social networks)…

      Monetization of social networks has failed thus far for one simple reason … vendors are focused on “what they do” and how to exploit “what they do” on a platform that serves masses (social networks). Everyone wants to cash in, but they are failing to address simple marketing rules we learned back in Business Administration 101 – deliver value to customers. This means a) understanding a target market of customers served; b) understanding how and why they use social networks; and c) what can be delivered to the target market to give them incremental value that is distinguishable from what others offer.

      So let’s start with the first premise – “understanding a target market of customers served.” Social networks gained adoption because it was a technological innovation that allows individuals with similar interest and backgrounds to connect and exchange “data”. The two parties (or more) exchanged information without any side looking to have an “advantage”. All parties are “serviced” equally. Now bring in vendors and advertisers. They are looking to determine characteristics of a large pool of potential customers and market to them if the attributes and demographics match.
      Premise 2 – “understanding how and why they use social networks.” Many users are disenchanted by the possibility of being advertised and/or spammed to, based on “analysis”. So does this mean that social networks are still fertile ground for vendors and advertisers to reap success – ABSOLUTELY. But, one must go back to premise #2 stated – you must understand how and why individuals use social networks.
      Premise 3 – “what can be delivered to the target market to give them incremental value that is distinguishable from what others offer?” There needs to be a business model that continues to deliver on the unwritten law of social networks – equal benefit to all users. The business model also delivers the highest ROI every experienced and reduces sales close rates dramatically. All while delivered unparalleled value to users.

    • http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/ericpicard epicard

      I’m a bit surprised by this article. Dr. Clemmens is clearly an experienced researcher. But there is an incredible amount of bias here. I suppose the same could be said of me, given my work in this field. But many of the unsubstantiated comments, or examples based on his personal preference, have absolutely nothing to do with the science of marketing. He frequently refers to his own research (which frankly is not researching the impacts of advertising). But when referring to what advertising agencies or advertisers are doing, he doesn’t refer to research, or provide any actual examples – they’re nebulously referenced as if these references are based on fact. If they are, I’d love to talk to the agencies he’s referencing to understand how they’re arriving at their conclusions.

      There is, by the way, lots of research available on this topic – fantastic research, and lots of publications. He need only look as far as Joseph Turow who teaches ‘next door’ to Dr. Clemmens at the Annenberg School at UPENN, who I’m sure could aim him at the academic body of work on the topic. More importantly – the vast majority of research done on the impact and effects of advertising are private. Anyone who believes that marketers like P&G or J&J (who spend *billions* of dollars annually on marketing) are not doing significant research on the effectiveness of this spending is simply naive. The research budgets at these private corporations are vast – many times the size of the academic research budgets out there. Basic rule of thumb: Marketers rarely spend money on advertising that doesn’t work well – only doing so typically on an experimental basis as they begin developing baselines for new methods. The bigger the advertiser, the more research they do to ensure the effectiveness of their methodologies.

    • Corrigan

      The cost of all sites that rely upon internet advertising as a revenue model greatly exceeds the amount of marketing money available for online advertising. In 2007, together Google and Yahoo’s annual costs were greater than 40% of the total annual ad revenue. Now think about the rest of the sites online and their enormous expenses, especially video sites.

      Additionally, the amount of money spend on internet advertising often exceeds the benefits of advertising. Internet users have the shortest attention span across all media types. Like the growth of cable television presented problems for advertisers because of channel surfing during commercials, the expansive multitasking, always updating nature of the web reduces the attention paid to ads. Even if someone accidentally click an ad, they will often close it before it loads, & some block all ads completely. Full page Print ads are more effective in getting attention than web ads because they can’t be completely filtered out, but publishers have always relied upon newsstand and subscription revenues as well as ads.

    • Shane

      I would submit that Internet advertising is “failing” because every website that uses AdSense or Doubleclick provides the same affiliate advertisement that the next website does. The trend in Internet advertising will move away from affiliate/ad networks, and move toward direct sales/local advertising.

    • http://www.RedesignYourBiz.com Design freak

      Very valid points made….. nice article

    • http://www.Capterra.com Chase Maggiano

      This article argues that the internet will kill advertising because advertising interrupts a user when they are doing or searching for something else. However, if advertising is delivered effectively, using appropriate targeting and relevancy that is ONLY available on the internet, then advertising will prove itself to be more effective and useful than ever.

    • http://www.makingyoufindable.com Tom Lyons

      I think what we may be forgetting is people treat advertising as content in many cases.

      Start with classified ads. Move that online to Craigslist, Kijiji.

      I think there was a recent Techcrunch article that talk about the fact that Ads online are not as relevant compared to ads in a magazine. Many people will purchase a magazine just for the ads, or at least as much for the ads as the content.

      Also the statement ads are trusted least does not mean they are not trusted at all. Nor does it mean they are trusted least in all circumstances.

      Will adversting need to evolve with this new medium, of course, will it die no. Here’s why, any new company, service or product will need to advertise, push press releases and have a sales force or it simple will not be known enough to get the reviews and unbiased coverage that you claim will replace advertising.

      Good post and view, this is just my opinion in response.

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    • one900

      Dear ChrisATSo33t,

      You’re a gready little bast*rd. The internet is free. It will be financed by ad $$$’s Get over it.

      Porn sites work this way because nobody wants to advertise on a porn site except other porn sites. O.K. maybe also gambling and sex toy sites.

      That is why they work like that. Now, for the rest of us its ad banners, clicks, etc…

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    • http://www.earringsforever.com EarRings

      It really depends on what you are advertising. We have lowered our Adsense budget ourselves since our products — diamonds is not really a need but more like a want. But for basic necessities, advertising is still a must to keep the brand in tact inside people’s minds.

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    • YM Ousley

      From someone who actually buys and sells advertising, .2% CTR is NOT standard. The type of ad varies greatly, as does the site the ad appears on, as does the design of the ad itself. Within that clickthrough varies.

      Text ads may perform better in some industries than display. In other industries display is cheap enough to give volume that text ads can’t touch. If your banner ad appears on a site with great content, you may have a low clickthrough because people are staying on the site. Ugly site with spammy content? You may get an amazing clickthrough if people think your ad could be more relevant than the site they’re on (and they can’t wait to leave). Similarly, a “press the fart button” banner might get a high clickthrough while an attractive banner gets clicked less. There are advantages and disadvantages at every stage, but the lowest common denominator is not enough to make a case for failure.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tinu_Abayomi-Paul/703357594 Tinu Abayomi-Paul

      It’s an interesting take. But I think it leaves out one critical component – the business person.

      As a business person, I’m more receptive to advertising than I am as a consumer. In fact, I sometimes look to see if a company is advertising, no matter how I heard about them, because if I’m unsure if a company is stable enough to do business with, I want to see if they’re spending. And if they’re advertising, they’re spending. If they’re spending, they’re probably stable.

      Even as a consumer, I don’t *hate* advertising… I hate being *sold to*. I appreciate being made aware of certain things through advertising, and I like being entertained by advertising – funny commercials get me every time.

      So if I’m being honest… I don’t think it’s advertising that’s going away, if advertising is defined as paid placement of any kind, including sponsorship, etc.

      Rather, I think it will morph into something a lot better than what we see offline, that helps people get solutions, rather than sell them things they don’t want or need.

      And this is coming from someone whose entire career is based on the fact that the better results people get with advertising, the less they need my services.

      There’s a place for it. It just may not be search anymore.

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      Indeed, the problem is not the medium, the problem is the message, and the fact that it is not trusted, not wanted, and not needed. Another important variable affecting advertising and monetizing models, aside from medium and message, is the audience. The audience is participating in different activities which prevent captured attention to a particular message. Moreover, the audience trusts information obtained from sources known rather than advertising. Perhaps it will be wise for advertisers to develop a new model based on word of mouth.

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    • http://athleticfriends.com James

      I think it is that advertising has gotten cheaper in that it is possible to target specific niches. If a company or website and have a strong following, then they can market towards that niche. There will always be a role for paper and physical advertising, but perhaps instead of newspapers, the cost of billboards, signs, human billboards, etc. will increase!

    • http://entertainment-pr.com/?p=200 Where Public Relations Picks Up (Online) Advertising’s Slack – AMP3 PR BLOG

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    • john

      In my opinion he could have elaborated a bit more on the virtual bit, describing the more fully the reasons why that seems to work.

      I agree with John. To fully digest an idea one needs to be able to read at least an article this long. Drink some coffee, slow readers. It helps me.

    • http://www.yousaidit.com Charles Borwick

      There is a big difference between email marketing and advertising. These days, the latter is usually bacn not spam (i.e. you opted in).

      When companies deliver useful information as part of their marketing people are willing to listen. Daily Candy is a pretty good example of this, but there are many others.

      We have yet to figure out how to deliver really useful information within the constraints of advertising.

    • http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/03/23/after-the-advertising-bubble-bursts/ Doc Searls Weblog · After the advertising bubble bursts

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    • http://domainingmanual.com/2009/03/techcrunch-google-is-doomed-ppc-ad-model-will-fail-our-take/ TechCrunch: Google Is Doomed & PPC Ad Model Will Fail: Our Take

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    • Julia

      Victory darwin:

      Ooh, ad hominem attacks. Immature and fallacious. Try actually responding to specific arguments made in the article next time. Where’s your research?

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    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andr_Friedrichs/1043894910 André Friedrichs

      The first sentence which occurred to me while reading this article was – I know: probably – a quote by Einstein: “Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler.”

      This article shows a deep lack of understanding about what advertising is for, which it is used for, and what results it can cause. Advertising isn’t credible? Right, but that doen’t really matter, because advertising doesn’t need to be trusted to have an effect. Advertising doesn’t inform in an objective way? Right, true – but that never has been an issue of advertising. (Good) advertising is about emotional persuasion which is effective because humans are not doing their buying decisions in a “homo economicus” way, but using a quite simple, quite irrational set of heuristics. Real buying decision making is not based on ratio. It isn’t even based on conscious perception.

      So, consumers do not trust, want or need advertising? Right, true – but brands and companies do. And as long this is true, there will advertising.

      A complete another kind of question is, if the internet – websites, viral videos etc – are able to influence consumer in such an emotional way. The answer is: it depends, case by case.

      The only point to which I can agree to is that professional content producers and online journalism needs – additional – monetization.

    • Ryan

      Did anyone read this article before commenting? I don’t think he is saying that advertising is failing because of the economy, although that might be a factor in speeding things along.

      His clearly stated hypothesis is that advertising is failing because people no longer need it. There was a time when advertisements played a part in our purchasing decisions, and that time has past. We no longer rely on advertisements to tell us what our purchasing options are – we research our options carefully online.

      To everyone defending the idea that online advertising has a future: when was the last time you clicked on an online ad????

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    • schmogel

      I do not have the time to properly respond to this article, but I will make time over the next few days. In the meantime, fodder…

      It always amuses me when I read or hear “Consumers don’t want advertising. They avoid it. The hate it.” Why is that true? I don’t think it is. I think they hate bad advertising, bad messaging, lazy creative. But they love good advertising, good products.

      Why do they talk about products, how did they hear about them in the first place? I think we know that answer, if you track it back to generation 1.

      I would like to do a little more research, but, gut research is telling me, more than 70% of “conversations” online have to do with ads, products and campaigns.

      “Have you seen this, $5 foot long, have you tried, i just heard about… my 5 year old loves it.”

      Go back to basics… give me a good product, with a good message and people like it. People hate advertising that has a process and companies that have become machines.

      More to follow.

    • torstarguy

      Be careful of those review sites, a lot of them actually have paid writers who review them. Do you really trust the opinions of those paid writers?

    • http://www.lgr.ca/blog/2009/03/digg-ads-open-without-clicking.html Digg Ads Open Without Clicking – LGR Internet Solutions – Web and Blog Consulting

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    • http://www.anidea.com Brian Chiger

      Eric,

      Your observations are very astute, but you’ve taken a very narrow perspective of advertising and assumed that the model of paid, interruptive media is the only model and that it cannot evolve.

      The reason why traditional ad techniques are failing is because they are misusing the internet. Remember, that at it’s core, the internet is and always ways a social medium. The original design (to run programs on someone else’s computer) was rapidly evolved into a two-way communication medium. It was never designed to deliver content from an oligarchy of content providers (which is required for a traditional ad model to succeed).

      The model can evolve, however, when we recognize the capacity of the internet to be an experiential, utility-providing, social medium. Companies are slow to adapt their practices into this unfamiliar space, but I don’t believe that means it isn’t possible to do so.

      We’ve started a discussion on our blog and would love to hear more voices. Check it out and jump in!

      http://anidea.com/strategy/why-the-screens-theory-doesnt-hold-up/

      http://anidea.com/strategy/rethinking-the-big-idea/

    • http://www.ericsbinaryworld.com Eric Mesa

      One key mistake here is that advertising isn’t really about trust. It’s about getting your name out there. When I go out to eat 9/10 times I eat at a brand-name restaurant. I see local restaurants around, but I have no idea what kind of food they sell or what type of environment they are (upscale, fast food) so I don’t stop.

    • http://machines.pomona.edu/51-2009/2009/03/23/ads-failing-on-the-internet/ » Ads failing on the internet introduction to digital media studies
    • http://www.birgerking.net birgerking

      Whats the problem with this great article? Are you afraid?

      I believe that this article is 100% right. Advertising in the classic term is simply incompatible with the preferences of most internet users. The basic functions of the internet are link and share. Everything else is a “could be” without warranty. It’s a toolbox, an easy, cheap and digital way to solve problems, inlcuding asyncronous/convergence exchange of information.

      There will be a future with new forms of advertising, and the ad market will be much smaller. That’s ok. You better take a closer look at the opportunities which arise!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kirk_Ketefian/613061227 Kirk Ketefian

      Very provocative opinion piece. But I have to say that this is very unsound analysis coming from a Wharton professor. There are many things wrong with Prof. Clemons’ arguments, and I’ll touch on a few of them:

      - Newspaper advertising is declining not because of the ineffectiveness of advertising but because the audience is moving online en mass and advertisers are following the audience. Same with other print media and even television to a lesser extent.

      - Subscription based content has been tested and proven to be largely ineffective over the past 5-10 years. There will no doubt be niche audiences (such as business school professors, sophisticated investors, etc.) who would be willing to pay for very high quality content (e.g. The Economist, Wall Street Journal, etc), but for the most part people have been conditioned to expect content to be free online and aren’t willing to pay for it — at least to pay enough to offset the revenue that could be generated through the ad-supported content model. In addition, most content online is of mediocre quality, which would make it difficult to charge for.

      - Online advertising is very different than traditional (offline) advertising. It is potentially much more highly targeted (targeting is still in its infancy, but it’s still a whole lot better than what can be done offline) and has the potential of enabling a 1-to-1 communication with the end user / customer.

      - Additionally, there are multiple online advertising models in existence today. At the broadest level, there is search advertising and display advertising (admittedly, this is an oversimplification). At the minimum, you need to distinguish between these two worlds before you make any type of argument about the effectiveness of online advertising.

      - Search advertising is not misdirection. It is serving the user almost exactly what he/she is looking for. This type of targeting is as good as it gets and provides a very high amount of utility to the user (as well as to the advertiser and Google/Yahoo/MSN).

      - “Consumers do not trust advertising.” This may largely be true, but consumers don’t need to trust advertising in order for advertising to be successful. You need to look at the sales “funnel” to understand why. There are many reasons for doing advertising: creating awareness/branding, keeping a company/product top of mind in the consideration set, direct response, etc. Consumers know that advertising messages are biased, but it is still very effective in shaping people’s behavior when it comes to the purchase cycle, as countless studies repeatedly demonstrate.

      - “Consumers do not want to view advertising.” I agree that consumers don’t want to view advertising that is irrelevant to their interests/wants/needs, such as un-targeted 30-second TV commercials. But what if the ad is an offer for a discount on a product that a consumer is in market for and ready to buy? He/she would not only would LOVE to view this ad, but may want to see MORE such relevant ads — enabling him to get the best deal! The name of the game is timing and relevance. It’s something that online advertising is good at and will no doubt be a even better in the coming years.

      - “Alternative models for monetization are available.” Yes, there are, but the reality is that the vast majority of the content on the internet is not suitable for such models (e.g. subscription based content) and would not exist if it weren’t for advertising. This has proven itself out over the last decade.

      Finally, the reason for the slowdown in online ad spending is largely due to the larger economic conditions. Search advertising is still growing, and diverted spend in display advertising is largely going to other online venues such as social media, video, and mobile advertising, all of which are growing rapidly.

      I would not argue that advertising on the Internet is panacea. There’s clearly much room for improvement. But to argue that it is failing is an absurd notion given all the contrary evidence.

      Peace.

    • Opinion

      What a wordy article with little useful information! It seems like it was written just to show something produced at Wharton.

    • http://lindsayrgwatt.com/blog/2009/03/why-you-should-work-for-an-internet-company/ Why You Should Work for an Internet Company – Random Dispatches

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    • http://www.bestaffiliatefamily.com/blog Peter

      Companies that kept up their marketing and advertising budgets during the Depression years of the 1930s generally did better than those who got scared of such spending and pulled back.

      One theory (Prechter, etc.) says that the collective mood of the herd of humanity drives the market. Successful businesses in these lean and negative times will advertise to the mood(s)–not to mention provide goods and services that cater to the mood(s).

      An illustration of the current mood, broadly speaking, seems to be the aggressively negative tone to many of the comments and the relatively gloomy tone of the post itself. The theory says that such moods drive bear markets.

      If we think we can or can’t, either way, we’re right – to paraphrase Henry Ford, if I remember rightly.

    • http://www.birgerking.net birgerking

      True words. I appreciate your experience and the power to tell the truth. A lot of people have not realized yet, that the internet is a space owned by the ones who create the content. They are free users, marketeer and advertizers call them customers.

      But the success of the company is under control of these customers – and as soon as they realize this, they are users. Means that they are educated MF. They identify every ad, starting on a scale with insult, ending with personal problem.

      Even the smartest entrepreneur has no solution for this problem. The only way seems to be authentic and transparent especially in case of the revenue model. Companys who try to ride the “first free, than money”-model stuck faster and faster. Most of them. Twitter is different, that is why I think Twitter has a really big problem in future…

    • http://scoprendoweb2.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/giornalisti-senza-un-giornale/ Giornalisti senza un giornale « Scoprendo il Web 2.0

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    • http://www.tamark.ca/students/2009/03/23/monday-squibs-general-edition/ Notes from a Teacher – Monday squibs: General edition

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    • http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/03/23/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why advertising is failing on the internet – elearnspace

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    • http://www.imaginepub.com James Meyers

      Something better than advertising has come along….it’s called custom content. Our clients have found that the ROI on custom content over advertising is 5-10x higher.

    • http://burstmedia.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/advertising-does-not-have-to-fail-on-the-internet/ Advertising does not have to fail on the Internet « Burst Media Company Blog

      [...] School, sounds pretty much at the end of his rope today in Tech Crunch where he implores that “There Must Be Something [his emphasis] Other Than Advertising.” In tones that are decidedly anti-intellectual, Professor Clemons presents himself as just [...]

    • http://burstmedia.com Jarvis Coffin

      Dear Professor Clemons:

      Some thoughts in response at this blog address:

      http://burstmedia.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/advertising-does-not-have-to-fail-on-the-internet/

      Regards.

      J.

    • http://www.betterresponseblog.com/index.php/marketing/internet-advertising-failing/ Internet Advertising Failing?!?!? | Better response for marketing campaigns!

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    • http://morethanadvertising.com/2009/03/23/quote-of-the-day-eric-clemons/ Quote of the day – Eric Clemons | MORE THAN ADVERTISING

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    • http://AdBundler Jim Warwick

      David,

      Nice to see your name and hope you are well. I think this article, which was brought to my attention, reiterates the problems I have seen. I agree that search should be part of the mix, not a separate media like Google, as that is just part of the answer. The problem as I have seen it, is trust: trust in the site that is delivering the ad and trust in the actual ad. As you may know, I have since patented my software application to answer pretty much all of the issues brought up in this article. Still looking for $$$ but it has to be the “right people” behind the money, as I have had too many of the wrong ones willing to invest.

    • Andrew

      Too many user comments to read. I’ll just add this, your analogy of a “push” via the iPhone’s headphones vs Shunes was weak. You are comparing a $350 headphone to a basic $30 headphone. Apple’s inclusion of white ear buds isn’t an attempt to push an inferior product on you. They include an average headphone set because they need to. Did your Sony Walkman in 1985 come with headphones that cost as much as the Walkman? The average iPhone buyer isn’t going to spend $350 on headphones. Good try, now try again.

    • http://www.nileguide.com Josh Steinitz

      Small Correction: TripAdvisor was originally an independent company, and then was BOUGHT LATER by IAC/Expedia, of which Hotels.com is part. They bought it because they were sending so many paid clicks over to Expedia that they realized that, rather than give up so much of their margin for a meaningful part of their traffic, they should just own the channel and realize those margins for themselves (and from their competitors). This is the well-known “circle jerk of travel”.

      Still, the broader point that TripAdvisor’s UGC content has high perceived value by consumers is no doubt true…if you can sniff out the shills.

    • Neno Brown

      I read your brief summary again, on responce to your reply and through the art of contrary thinking I have to agree on your thesis as it points to the decentralisation effect of the web as a whole, there is strong reason why advertising will become more user-generated from a seek and find perspective.

      ‘Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smoothed-tounged wizards withdrew,
      And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true,
      That all is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four-
      And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain once more’……Kipling.

    • http://www.encryptdesigns.com Mark

      Wow who spends $350 on a pair of ear buds?

      On a side note the SMS thing sounds good/bad. I don’t really think I’d want companies having my phone number to text me about anything. Until recently I didn’t have unlimited texting and AT&T doesn’t cover the incoming ones. So this could be a big pain in the *you know what* if SMS messaging became the “new” way to spam the hell out of people! Don’t really ever seeing this work.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark_Romeo/678356904 Mark Romeo

      Fail is a strong word, evolve is more appropriate. This raises interesting questions, most are conjecture and opinion and some assertions are not well informed. I can point to study after study that states without a doubt that consumers dont mind being marketed to, or advertised to, they just want to do it on their own terms. The points on trust are well informed. A good start to a continuing dialog, but to say fail, that is rubbish, pure and simple.

    • http://www.marketerslife.com Zelimir

      I read just a few of the sentences, and realized that this article is just a comment from someone who never operated in the trenches of the marketing, where real battles are won and lost. You are looking through the glass of your fancy office onto the world, and seeing what you think might be interesting to your readers. And what better to interest your readers that promises of doom and cataclysm of internet marketing. If you ever were involved in the marketing, and not teaching the stuff (after all, why would anyone who is capable moving millions of dollars of merchandise through marketing be working as a low payed professor, right? ), you would know that marketing isn`t about putting your product in front of someone who doesn`t want it, and convincing him that he in fact does. It`s about communication to your audience, the one that already has a desire that you feed. This kind of advertising will never fail. And this is the only advertising I know. What you are talking about is the exact kind of advertising that people like you think is right. I think we should never read this man`s articles again.

    • http://www.gadget.com Tony

      @fiarflow

      The author of the article, I thought was trying to say that too many people push AD’s, and my point is/was, he did just that?

      Didn’t he?

      His way was worse then being “hijacked” by google or others since we do not know if he was paid or not.

      Think payperpost, how do you know if he did or did NOT get something like that?

      Yes, my angle is a reach, I am just trying to prove a point, that advertising is GREAT on the internet, mostly trackable and results are almost instant.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pooky_Amsterdam/1419250577 Pooky Amsterdam

      When People can interact with a brand and spend time with it, then they want to have it in their lives. For example if there was a game someone played called “Bowling for Budweisers” which knocked down 10 pins made out of the beer bottle, I don’t care if the person was a Heinekin drinker all their life- they would eventually pick up a Bud.
      I produce top rate machinima commercials on Second Life and we offer the client a way to not only have a goregeous video filmed cost effectively, but also a way for their clients to interact with the product it self, and fellow enthusiasts of the product. ( I will never say the word consumer and perhaps this is the secret to my success)
      As write, producer and host of two weekly live online virtual entertainment game shows, The opportunity for real life branding is immense.

    • http://thotblog.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/cutting-cable-out/ Cutting Cable Out « ThotBlog

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    • http://metablogging.gr/archives/2310 Metablogging.gr » Blog Archive » Γιατί η διαφήμιση αποτυγχάνει στο ίντερνετ

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    • Jeff S.

      The main point of this article Eric’s inability to be concise.

    • http://expertvoices.nsdl.org/cornell-info204/2009/03/23/internet-advertising-currently-ineffective/ » Internet Advertising Currently Ineffective » Cornell Info 2040 – Networks

      [...] the following article, Why Adversting is Failing on the Internet by Eric Clemons (http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/22/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/), the post talks about how online advertsing is starting to fail and how companies are seeing less [...]

    • http://www.cincinnatimarketingblog.com Rob Bunting

      As I type this comment a banner ad is at the top of the page advertising a 15% Off entire order offer from NHL.com and has the logo of my favorite team and a picture of an item I viewed on that website the other day. So the ad is extremely relevant, personally targeted and offers something of value to me (15% off) so it therefore caught my attention!!!!

      I’ve worked in the field of Internet advertising since 1998, helping hundreds of companies generate sales, sales leads, and increase their brand exposure online. All advertising is not failing on the Internet, poor advertising in failing on the Internet, just as does in any other medium.

      Those who can do, those who can’t teach in Business Schools.

    • http://franktank.com Frank

      You mention selling content as a way forward for advertising on the internet. How doe this gel with ideas of opening up data silos so that information is openly available for any applications that wish to access it.

      Why would I pay for a facebook if hypothetically a ‘picturebook’ website could access the same information and present it in a similar fashion.

      Paying to access seems at a contradiction with those ideals of keeping information open on the net. I would rather information was used to increase the effectiveness of misdirection advertising and social search.

    • DBC

      Advertising and marketing present and position products and services.
      Presentation and design will always matter, even though the current model would seem to favor fifteen year old boys with ADD.
      Delivery of the message will continue to evolve, and not taking advantage of the internet is to devolve and limit the ability to compete.

    • http://scrappymarketing.com/2009/03/is-advertising-dead/ Is Advertising Dead? | Scrappy Marketing

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    • http://www.singleboundcreative.com Alan Peters

      Dear Eric,

      Thank you for the article.

      I agree that advertising is under pressure to adapt. It has become too cynical. By and large, it has stopped thinking of consumers as people. And has resisted innovation.

      I disagree that advertising inherently lacks value for end consumers. Advertising can provide value from the simple — e.g. entertainment, awareness of a promotion — to the complex — e.g. providing a digital service extension

      The challenge for advertisers is to adapt and learn new ways to be a valuable contributor in a digital ecosystem.

      And, hate to break it to ya — but too many great businesses depend on building their brand and too many bright people have been given the assignment.

      Evolution? For Sure. Extinction? Not a chance.

      Sincerely,
      Alan Peters

    • info

      Yo !!! 442 comments? I WANT MINE ON TOP !!!!!!!!!!

    • http://itineraryshare.com Graham Steele

      I have been looking for investors for my site and I went to a wealthy Entrepreneur with my business plan, which was based around Advertising Revenue as the way of monetising the site. He was tough (which is a good thing) and said that if he sees a B.Plan for a web business that only has Advertising as it’s ROI for investors, he will throw the plan in the trash and not even look seriously at it!

    • bigphan

      I find this post to be a bit off base and as I read it – it becomes obvious very fast that Mr. Clemons has little experience in selling online advertising. On the web, advertisers have the most interactive medium (and in my view the most effective) in which to carry a conversation directly with their customers. If the message is delivered the right way – in the right environment – people respond. The web enables customer interaction like no other medium has. If anything, the web allows for even more marketing and and dollars to be spent for even greater potential return (when delivered the right way).

    • VivekV

      I thought the article was an excellent, thought provoking assessment of how consumer media consumption could change over time.

      However, the fundamental argument of this article is about sustainability and sustainable advantages. That basically is the holy grail of business….building a company that will last for an infinite time. There are none, in any sector, that could pass the bar on this. Even GE just had its ratings dropped last week and today.

      In that sense, we can argue there are few sites that could actually sustain foreever even if they change current business models away from advertising. Logically, that argument is equally valid, on the same principles of value creation and destruction that yields new industries and destroys old ones. This is simply because, understandably, future information is not as evident as current….in market terms, all information is not priced today, because the future still has to reveal itself.

      Hope I made sense.

    • http://nigro.us john

      i think the professor who wrote this knows better and did this as a link baiting experiment or other publicity stunt.

      Look how worked up it gets people?

      If he is a professor at Wharton he cannot possibly be this naive.

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    • Mara

      My guess is the article comes across as “loooong” because the excessively long paragraphs *by Internet writing standards”.

      Write for print is one thing, writing for online medium is another. Reading lengthy text on a screen is harder one most people’s eyes. People tend to skim more online, are more distracted, and in general: less is more.

      The fact that, given the subject matter of the article, the author should have already KNOWN these things…makes me doubt his expertise in this area.

      That said, he had some totally SPOT ON points.

    • gb

      i remember prof.clemons from my wharton days and he was one of the smartest guys around. some of the comments here are just unwarranted. that said, i fear he is straying into unfamiliar territory here when talking about advertising (information goods researchers still don’t seem to get advertising). Fundamentally, the purpose of advertising is *NOT* to sell. As any mildly experienced salesperson or marketer would tell you there are at least three levels you have to go through to get a sale – inform, evaluate and convert. Advertising operates at the bottom of the pyramid. The services prof.clemons talks about – ratebeer, tripadvisor, even amazon, operate at the second level where the consumer has already been qualified into evaluating. If there is no advertising, there will be little traffic for these guys (in most though not all industries). As someone above mentioned, advertising works on 1-5% conversion rates. 99% is wasted and will always be. But you have to remember, the 1% that converts generates 100% of your revenue. Kill your advertising and you lose 100% of revenue (minus whatever organic demand you have).

      To believe we will some day see 100% conversion with advertising is a little silly (even 20% would be extraordinary). And comparing advertising with search engines (which are more like retail stores in a mall capturing and redirecting organic traffic) or recommendation svcs which reach a fraction of a fraction of the overall market for any serious business, is just conflating too many very distinct businesses with distinct roles and purposes. Advertising has its own role to play, its not perfect but its essential.

    • http://www.roboturner.com/ Tyler Lemieux

      Everyone tear down your AdWords campaigns, there’s no money to be made here.

    • http://portabledata.info/?p=48 Advertising is failing on the Internet? | shopping |

      [...] that the “Department of Huh?” But that is exactly what Eric Clemons of the Wharton School has said today. He starts of with some assertion that the decline in Internet ad revenues is not explained by the [...]

    • http://www.life-styl.com HM

      I tend to agree that mass advertising has its own pitfalls – but that related to all media and not only to the internet.

      Internet is also one of the best medium to target the right audience in the right manner and change lifestyles – its bound to stay and flourish !

      Best Regards,
      -Hardik

    • http://www.zazoo.com.au/2009/03/24/is-the-internet-destroying-advertising/ Zazoo » Blog Archive » Is the Internet destroying advertising?

      [...] The original article: “Why advertising is failing on the Internet” (with 450 comments a… [...]

    • http://automotowire.com/2009/03/24/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet

      [...] Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet [...]

    • http://www.ddmcd.com Dennis McDonald

      I remember many many years ago when I first started paying for cable TV and thought I would thereby avoid commercials. Boy, was I wrong! (My comments on Dr. Clemons’ editorial are here: http://www.ddmcd.com/advertising.html .)

    • http://globbos.com/la-publicidad-en-internet-no-esta-dando-resultados/ La publicidad en Internet no está dando resultados | Globbos

      [...] Web tecnológica TechCrunch realizó un análisis sobre el tema de la publicidad en Internet. En este análisis reporta las [...]

    • http://thethingsonmymind.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/newspapers-vs-the-internet-deathmatch/ Newspapers vs. the Internet – Deathmatch! « The Things on My Mind

      [...] viewing an interstitial ad). Eric Clemons writes very clearly about this in the fantastic article Why Advertising is Failing on the Internet. This is something that’s near and dear to my heart since this is how I’m making my [...]

    • http://blog.dramalava.com/2009/03/23/wharton-professor-internet-has-shattered-advertising/ Wharton professor: internet has shattered advertising | Drama Blog

      [...] professor of operations and information management at The Wharton School ranted on TechCrunch today that the “internet is not replacing advertising but shattering it, and all the king’s [...]

    • http://oliverg.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/links-for-2009-03-24/ links for 2009-03-24 « Where is my towel?

      [...] Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet BTW, the end of advertsing is here AGAIN. "The internet is about freedom, and I suspect that a truly free population will not be held captive and forced to watch ads. We always knew that freedom comes at a price; perhaps the price of internet freedom and the failure of ads will be paying a fair price for the content and the experience and the recommendations that we value." (tags: werbung advertising theendof) [...]

    • http://www.subzeroblue.com/archives/2009/03/enough-with-the-online-advertising-is-a-failure-talk.html Enough With The ‘Online Advertising Is A Failure’ Talk – Subzero Blue

      [...] read at least 3 posts/articles that talk about how online advertising is a failure, one of them on TechCrunch yesterday by a guest writer (Eric Clemons), one on the Economist, and another on MediaPost’s [...]

    • Gfy

      you are a complete idiot, people click ads every day I own websites that earn clicks that monthly are more than your mortgage. Get a clue

    • Gfy

      you are a total moron, get a clue

    • http://www.ceterumcenseo.net/2009/03/24/link-baiting-par-excellence/ Link-Baiting par excellence | ceterum censeo …

      [...] die Website. Techcrunch hat das dieser Tage in Perfektion vorgeführt. Der Gastartikel (”Why Advertizing is Falling on the Internet“) propagiert nichts weniger als das Ende von Internet-Werbung und eigentlich sogar der [...]

    • Gfy

      you are a complete moron

    • Gfy

      You and chris should get married two complete idiots

    • Gfy

      You are a complete moron you should try learning something.

    • http://entroporium.com/?p=385 The Entroporium – Daily Digest for 2009-03-23

      [...] Bookmarked a link on Delicious. Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet [...]

    • http://blog.schwarzdesign.de/2009/03/24/online-marketing-us-professor-sieht-das-ende-der-internet-werbung-kommen/ Online-Marketing: US-Professor sieht das Ende der Internet-Werbung kommen | schwarzdesign blog

      [...] einem Gastbeitrag auf TechCrunch schreibt der Professor für Operations and Information Management, Eric Clemons über die Gründe, [...]

    • Gfy

      You are a total joke and do a great disservice to the Wharton School.

    • Gfy

      You are the biggest idiot on this site and that is saying something.

    • http://www.mycads.com Nick

      traditional newspaper classifieds, which has an editing process, and advertisers normally need to pay an amount to list their offering there, and the editor also has some sort of filtering of the content. maybe that’s the reason, most people still trust the traditional newspaper classifieds.

      I created this website http://www.mycads.com
      it is mainly about Classified Ads online in Singapore, I hope to have some ways to make it trustful, and at the same time convenient and easy to use, anyone get a clue?

    • Gfy

      You are a complete idiot. Advertising will be here long after you are gone.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fu_XingHe/768463120 Fu XingHe

      traditional newspaper classifieds, which has an editing process, and advertisers normally need to pay an amount to list their offering there, and the editor also has some sort of filtering of the content. maybe that’s the reason, most people still trust the traditional newspaper classifieds.

      I created this website http://www.mycads.com
      it is mainly about Classified Ads online in Singapore, I hope to have some ways to make it trustful, and at the same time convenient and easy to use, anyone get a clue?

    • Gfy

      CLICK ADS EVERY DAY and because of this article purposely clicked everyone and had 10 people who I asked to click them all too.

    • Abigail

      So do I, at least when it comes to researching. And yet, lets assume that I finally find two products with great recommendations that I trust, similiar price and features etc. However, one of them has a known brand and the other one doesn’t. Which one I’d most propably choose? The first one, probably, because brands are still something that lots of people trust. And you still need to advertise; moreover – to advertise extensively to create the brand, especially when it’s new and meant to reach broader target than just some niche of experts.

      Since the article metioned IPod, lets use that example – is it just a great product that’d do just as fine without any advertising at all or a great brand created with even greater effort? Personally, I don’t know, I prefer Creative ;)

      Oh, BTW. There is such a thing as Word Of Mouth Marketing, there are more and more people who get paid to write commets/recommendation and more and more people who are aware of that.

    • Gfy

      Where I respect your experience Lu ann I have no respect for him 0

    • http://blog.oliver-gassner.de/archives/3564-links-for-2009-03-24.html Oliver Gassner

      links for 2009-03-24…

      Kooperationssysteme (CSCM)
      Die twittern jetzt dann bakld auch, "The Cooperation Systems Center Munich unites researchers from Informatics (Computer Science), Information Science and Economics at Bundeswehr Universi…

    • http://za.rocketseed.com/blog/2009/03/online-advertisings-sudden-death/ Online Advertising’s Sudden Death | Rocketseed

      [...] their online counterparts that the reason for their demise is the vast impossibility of replicating a full page spread on the back of a newspaper or a 30 second slot during the Super Bowl using online, but do not be fooled, as the value of traditional advertising is in no healthier [...]

    • http://haotik.ro/2009/03/24/publicitatea-pe-internet-e-pe-moarte.htm Publicitatea pe internet e pe moarte? – Haotik Note-Blog

      [...] a inceput acum cateva zile cu un articol scris pe techcrunch despre decaderea publicitatii pe internet. Si de acolo a inceput nebunia. Cu toate astea langa articol am numarat nu mai putin de 10 bannere. [...]

    • http://nichodges.com/wordpress/?p=47 Massive change. | Uneven Distribution.

      [...] die. I’ve been thinking this for a while, and it was refreshing to see on TechCrunch that Eric Clemons seems to agree with me. The old school advertiser-publisher-reader model is so irrelevant in the internet age that we can [...]

    • http://meta-LIFE.net Robbie Kiama

      I believe that internet marketing and advertising is an amazing tool that is just starting to evolve, when you start to imagine:
      - organic search,
      - organically emerging information
      - information enriched by social data
      - personalized information

      then advertising gets into the new personalized, relevant realm, which is faaar from dead!
      Just my opinion

    • http://www.onedaywithoutgoogle.org ODWGOOG

      Good Article and some good consideration about this social phenomenon.

    • Ken Stilwell

      I also agree with what Tim said and I find some additional problems in Eric’s assumptions.

      The internet is new territory and is a completely different medium than broadcast, cable, print, etc., although rich media may fuzzy the playing field a bit. These are passive forms of activity and the internet is interactive. How many times did you watch a lousy movie on TV along with its commercials? You won’t do that with normal internet visitation. It will be a quick hit and run. The experience is different requiring a different approach

      Here are my simplistic conclusions…

      Newspapers are failing because they are 75% ads and full of editorialized news. It was easy to cancel my subscription realizing the huge number of ads I was paying for with so little content.

      There is an over saturate of ads on the internet which will self correct but not go away. The economy is taking its toll but market correction forces are in action as well supply and demand dynamics.

      I like the fact that I am exposed to new things (Ads) on the internet. I can’t click and buy a car but I might just then do a little research and add that model to my list.

      I like the fact that an ad presents me with a solution to a problem I might be having and lets me know where to go for further research.

      Ads remind me of things I need to do, where to go, what might be cool, what is not, what is new, etc.

      It seems like Eric has a WAY cynical view. I could list all of the reasons I don’t like ads as well but I am not going to throw the baby out with the bath water.

    • http://www.techfieber.de/2009/03/24/werbung-kann-im-internet-nicht-funktionieren/ Werbung kann im Internet nicht funktionieren | TechFieber | Hot Gadgets. Smart TechNews.

      [...] [Link] Share and Enjoy: [...]

    • http://wind333.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/my-daily-readings-03242009/ My daily readings 03/24/2009 « Strange Kite

      [...] Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet [...]

    • http://loudpoet.com/2009/03/24/when-the-internet-flapped-its-wings/ Guy LeCharles Gonzalez: loudpoet / When the Internet Flapped its Wings

      [...] Information Management at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, entitled “Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet” that makes several interesting points about the growing influence of social media, while [...]

    • http://blog.brezveze.com/?p=67 Twitter as a quick reviewing tool | Easy Blog

      [...] of Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet among other things argue that consumers do not trust advertising. People value other consumers [...]

    • http://uk.techcrunch.com/2009/03/24/kennet-puts-e65-million-into-govirals-branded-video-network/ Kennet puts €6.5 million into GoViral’s branded video network

      [...] the VCs are bouyant about the future of online advertising, especially video, even if a few people aren’t right now. Kennet Partners, the pan-European venture private equity firm, is investing €6.5 million in [...]

    • http://www.breakthroughecommerce.com/library Mark

      Eric,

      fabulous piece. The fact is advertising has never worked even offline, the net just exposes it’s flaws even more.

      I’ve previously posed a couple of articles on my own blog about the failings of inline advertising.

      http://www.breakthroughecommerce.com/library/ecommerce/online-advertising-the-last-thing-you-should-do/

      and

      http://www.breakthroughecommerce.com/library/online-marketing/online-advertising-doesnt-work-yet-more-evidence/

      As far as I’m concerned the verdict’s in.

    • http://hkhurana.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet-well-is-it/ Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet? Well…is it? « Himanshu Khurana

      [...] by Professor Eric Clemons (from The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania) yesterday on Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet. One of his points is that people don’t need/trust/like advertisement. But hasn’t that [...]

    • Rick

      This article completely misses a major purpose of advertising. BRANDING. It’s a major component of BRANDING. And branding will always be important. The internet may soon be one of the only information mediums in which you can advertise. This article is stupid and oversimplified (especially to be so long).

    • James Brown

      Yes, it would be interesting. Ads these days are annoying.
      Users are like victims.

    • http://www.secareanu.ro/2009/03/24/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why Advertising is Failing on the Internet | Daniel Secareanu

      [...] Eric Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at Wharton – UPenn, stated in a TechCrunch article, the other day. “The problem is not the medium, the problem is the message, and the fact that it [...]

    • http://www.dreamco.com/smallvox/?p=328 Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet

      [...] If you’re betting that advertising on your website, blog or iPhone app is going to make you rich, you might want to check out a new article on TechCrunch by Eric Clemons: Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet [...]

    • http://www.razzed.com/2009/03/24/techcrunch-advertising-wharton-eric-clemons/ Summary of “Advertising is Failing” on TechCrunch

      [...] earbuds for the iPhone and instead bought an alternative? Why? This makes no rational sense, and as one commenter said, he advertised his alternate choice himself. (By brand name and model number, no doubt.) A little [...]

    • http://www.razzed.com/2009/03/24/techcrunch-advertising-wharton-eric-clemons/ Kent Davidson

      Thought-provoking article to say the least, but has far to many fallacies and opinions to really demand merit. $6 Billion in FY 2009 Google revenues is “Failing?” It seems more wishful thinking for an internet purist than reality. If you follow the internet’s evolution, advertising has dominated from early on, and continues to in terms of business model. Would be nice if you have some actual research behind your “guesses.”

    • http://www.guitarin60seconds.com Robben Salter

      The Future of Advertising, Politics, and Humanity itself is this.

      We don’t want to be “dictated” at.
      we want a conversation.

    • http://www.razzed.com/2009/03/24/techcrunch-advertising-wharton-eric-clemons/ Kent Davidson

      Drew: You summed up my thoughts completely. Nice comment!

    • Dan

      Completely agree that product references/contextual recommendations are great contextual recommendations (“advertising”) but it is not a scalable nor sustainable biz model. Advertising = Big Fail moving forward.

    • http://bestlightcommunications.com Curt Craighead

      The internet offers lots of things, one of the best being the ability to draw an unequivocal conclusion via data tracking. Click stream alone gives an undeniable answer to the question of effectiveness. Advertising online will definitely fail as it is currently modeled, but what no one wants to hear is the way advertising has been failing in print, and to a lesser degree, all other venues, for two decades. Why? The hundred year-old shotgun approach to advertising simply doesn’t work anymore. Giant retailers are finally pulling back on preprint budgets, and guess what? They won’t notice a blip in store traffic or brand recognition, because less than a quarter of U.S. households even get a paper anymore, and the majority of subscribers are beyond retailers demographic profile. That model simply isn’t relevant, and neither is online advertising the way it’s currently sold.

      Internet advertising is failing and will fail, because the answer for untalented marketers is carpet bombing vs. strategic strike. Marketers who don’t know what they’re doing just do more of what doesn’t work, including blanket banner purchases and placements. Their advertising is nearly always irrelevant to the site, offers nothing the user wants, and to Eric Clemons’ point, not trusted. For the first time in advertising history we can actually tell if being there is good enough, and it isn’t, which makes for uncomfortable conversations with your agencies. The answer is in patience, which few businesses have these days. Patience to develop trust and rapport with your customer. Patience to allow that trust to generate positive word of mouth, and patience to believe relevant content, while slower, is ultimately more effective.

    • http://www.experienceadvertising.com Evan

      He’s a tard when it comes to analyzing search.

    • http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/03/is-advertising-killing-free-online-dating/ Is Advertising Killing Free Online Dating? — Online Dating Insider

      [...] Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at The Wharton School. The article, Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet, talks about how online advertising in it’s current format is [...]

    • Tom

      Professor Clemons’s beliefs about the decline of advertising reflect his research and sound theory. His incentive on this issue is to explain the situation based on his evidence, with no stake in the question of what will happen in the future to advertising in an online environment?

      With you being an industry person with an incentive for advertising to sustain itself as it has been, your incentive is to keep believing that advertising needs to succeed the same as it always has.

      You can guess then who I consider to be a more credible source on this. Your flawed perspective is especially revealed as you mischaracterize him as somehow hoping that advertising fails, or by saying that advertising will completely die — he says neither, only that advertising is on the decline (case in point, advertisers are paying less to online content providers because the advertisers know that they get less bang for their buck because people are ignoring and avoiding the ads).

      Unlike pundits and marketers, social scientists don’t hope for a particular outcome and then argue in favor of a particular outcome — they only seek to explain. You can get upset about what the consequences of his argument would mean for you, but that’s different from saying that he’s wrong. He clearly leaves open the idea that companies are developing strategies to be more successful advertising their products online and that the market on advertising will eventually flatten, but currently it’s declining and the aggregate evidence says it will continue to do so.

    • Steve

      I use adblocker in my Firefox browser because of many of the reasons the author has mentioned. There are a few websites, such as nytimes.com, on which I purposefully disable my adblocker software. It’s not that I want to see the ads, but that I value the content on the site. If there were a way to subscribe (that cost less than the print subscription) to that content, I would do it, and return to blocking ads. I think that other consumers mental models will be ready to shift to a “pay for content” model online as the meatspace content providers start to disappear.

    • Tom

      And I completely ignored/overlooked every single one of them

    • Tom

      So people click on ads everyday, Gfy, but not enough to sustain advertising online as it has been in the past. The point is not that advertising will completely die, only that it will become/has become less effective overall.

    • truestory

      Great article! I didn’t read the comments, except for the chain immediately above this one.

    • Bill

      The basic premise of your article is spot on, and I respect you for opening the debate, but there are a few flaws and omissions.

      You purport that people don’t want, trust, or need ads. Advertising in one form or another has been around for hundreds of years, and it’s evolving, but it will likely never go away. People should be responsible for their advertising intake, whether that be online, in print, or in some new- or old-fangled fashion. Everything simply can’t be regulated perfectly; some personal responsibility is in order. To, in essence, say that “advertising is bad” is to be not entirely honest about advertising or about people’s need for it.

      What I think is more important in this construct is the backward evolution of humankind. We have become cheap and lazy. We expect the Internet to work for us for free. You even said so in your article: “The internet is about freedom.” Who decided the Internet was about freedom, or that it should be (mostly) free? The introduction of web-based technologies have thrown everyone for a loop as to how they *should* work, but we should never assume that there is some inalienable right in the Internet. Heck, public libraries are free, but who’s using them anymore? Trusted information is available there, but we’re too lazy to access it…

      Worse yet, we’ve become utterly impersonal. An example from your article is this: “I would like to be able to ask for the hotel where my friends stay when they are in Chicago.” Why not just ask your friends?! The Internet has discouraged direct communication. When my friends decide they are only able to know me virtually, or through some intermediary (paid or not), then I must know they are no longer my friends.

      The Internet has presented us with a lot of opportunities, as well as challenges. I dare say, only some of them are caused by advertising.

    • http://briancostello.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/the-death-of-advertising/ The Death of Advertising « Conversation de la Digital

      [...] 24, 2009 · No Comments Eric Clemons via a Techcrunch guest post recently gave his reasons why advertising is failing on the Internet, it’s a long posting, so feel free to take a look — he makes some good, and not so [...]

    • http://www.MindSmack.com Sam Feuer

      I have been hearing from several clients that interactive flash banners that correlate to the product being sold is working much better then random punch the monkey types. Always depends upon the quality of the creative and obviously the page in which they are run.

    • For Truth

      This is a fine article – well thought-out, and well-written. It’s not fun to hear about trends that we don’t like – that, perhaps, might affect our livelihood. But there is more than just news here. There is a whiff of a very important trend.

      That trend is that people are really tired of being flim-flammed. And that thanks to the vast and varied resources on the Internet, people can mostly get their information when they want it.

      It is exciting that after such a long period of manipulation, push isn’t working the way it did in the 20th century. And that success really does hinge on good old-fashioned word-of-mouth, trust.

      If advertising evolves into a service to customers and those who would be customers, rather than a push for sellers, it may well survive. It would have to develop a sturdier relationship with truth, in order to do that. Isn’t it overstatement and blah blah blah that has put advertising in its present predicament?

      If advertising reinvents itself, I wish it well. It has carried newspapers for decades. And it has helped produce massive and sometimes wondrous content. I’m learning a lot from the various posts here.

      Go for it, Eric!

    • http://www.kingfishmedia.com/thinktank/2009/03/24/will-ads-fail-on-the-web-is-custom-media-the-answer/ ThinkTank · Will ads fail on the Web? Is Custom Media the answer?

      [...] out this article: “Why Advertising is failing on the Internet” written by Professor Eric Clemons of the University of Pennsylvania.  He makes a case why an ad [...]

    • http://www.hhcc.com/?p=549 Hill | Holliday » Blog Archive » Being Bubble People

      [...] University of Pennsylvania, tries to make the case that advertising is failing on the Internet in a guest post at TechCrunch. Naturally, much could be said about this topic since Hill Holliday is after all, an advertising [...]

    • http://colnect.com/ Collect connect

      This is the hidden message here. The author has been advertising like crazy throughout his post. If he had done all that for free, too bad for him.

    • http://colnect.com/ Collect connect

      Advertising means so many things, like writing names of websites and companies in your well-informed post on TechCrunch…
      The best ad is a hidden or partially hidden ad, like all the comments you’re getting who actually just want someone to click their name to visit their website ;)

    • http://colnect.com/ Collect connect

      When advertising is highly targeted, it’s not that bad. However, we mostly get much irrelevant things advertised.

      On my website I run AdSense but don’t enjoy it that much because many of the ads are not related to the site’s content. Yes, I know Google try their best on it.

    • http://www.ajulie.com/2009/03/24/is-advertising-killing-free-online-dating/ Is Advertising Killing Free Online Dating?

      [...] Sc­ho­­o­­l­. The ar­tic­l­e, W­h­y­ Advertisin­­g Is F­ailin­­g On­­ Th­e …, talk­s­ ab­out h­ow on­­lin­­e [...]

    • Mark

      Cut the guy some slack. He’s an ACADEMIC. He doesn’t know how to write in a concise way!

    • http://greek.mp Greek MP

      People hate ads because most ads are just lies!
      Remebers what happened with banners? Everybody hates them because we are all tired of the fake promises.

    • http://www.thetrendwatch.com/2009/03/24/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet-how-the-iphone-30-will-create-a-new-mobile-economy/ Ctrl-D*: Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet + How the iPhone 3.0 Will Create a New Mobile Economy at The TrendWatch

      [...] on the train tonight. Or save some paper and add them to your InstaPaper account. Respectively on TechCrunch & [...]

    • http://polineting.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/response-8-advertising-seems-to-be-in-agony/ RESPONSE #8 Advertising seems to be in agony. « Social Media Blog

      [...] information over. I had many doubts. However, by reading what Erick Clemons wrote on his article “why advertising is failing on the Internet” I now realized that advertising is in agony not only in traditional media but also on [...]

    • http://messageman.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/are-ads-failing-on-the-internet/ Are ads failing on the Internet? « Message, Man

      [...] and Information Management at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, wrote a compelling article on TechCrunch about the demise of online advertising.  This post touched a nerve judging by his [...]

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bart_Dabek/626565293 Bart Dabek

      I’m going to be blunt complete bs… for 40 years now people have been watching commercials on tv and the internet ad space will only expand… people never “trust” ads… guess why…. THEY”RE ADS… commercials are all paid for yet if you see them enough they will change your behavior to buy that coke or whatever…. AND GUESS what if this wasn’t true on the net there would be nobody advertising online…

      but really good job getting some controversy going I guess some people need that attention.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jj_Barbush/501068239 Jj Barbush

      There are some fundamental flaws to this logic (and to many best practices as the length of this article ironically would be served better in the print mediums you condemn). But you did have a few interesting insights.

      Evaluating the forward progress of advertising using the present ad models is the root of the failed logic of the article. Trying to predict how convergence of tv, web, social, gaming and entertainment will dovetail with advertising would have been a better approach. Look at xbox and what they are doing with their walled community. There is so much activity out there that will ultimately change the face of advertising, perhaps even the definition. But in the end, advertising in one form or other will be sustained.

    • peter

      If the masses did adopt these blockers – not just the naive Digg kiddies – then much of the internet would disappear. Even Digg would disappear.

      The piper must be paid. Either you accept the advertising, or you pay directly, but either way you pay.

    • peter

      I’m wondering if the author, oe those commenting, have ever purchased successful ads on the internet?

      I’m guessing not.

      I’ve spend hundreds of thousands of my dollars on internet ads. Why?

      ROI.

      I spend $1, I make $1.24.

      If you can show me consistent returns above that level in any investment platform, I’d be interested to see it.

      Not only does internet advertising work, it is highly lucrative.

      Eric is wrong.

      Those who can do, those who can’t – teach. Well, some can’t even manage that…..

    • peter

      I’m wondering if the author, or those commenting, have ever purchased successful ads on the internet?

      I’m guessing not.

      I’ve spend hundreds of thousands of my dollars on internet ads. Why?

      ROI.

      I spend $1, I make $1.24.

      If you can show me consistent returns above that level in any investment platform, I’d be interested to see it.

      Not only does internet advertising work, it is highly lucrative.

      Eric is wrong.

      Those who can do, those who can’t – teach. Well, some can’t even manage that…..

    • http://HotHardware.com Dave

      EXACTLY – If ads are relevant to the potential consumer visiting the site and actually add value that compliments the content, ads are effective.

      What cracks me up is the comparison to full page ads in print. The reason print media is failing is because things like full page print ads aren’t measurable enough. There’s one thing for absolute certainty – you can measure an online ads conversion rate and campaign effectiveness very well these days and it will only get better as the technology improves. It’s in its infancy actually and will continue to evolve. Eventually, online media spending will outstrip all other forms of advertising because the world’s communications infrastructure from the end user to the corporate enterprise will continue to exploit it. It’s obvious that it will be ever more pervasive in every day living and everything we do.

      “Find the best platform to advertise on” – period. You hit the nail on the head, Tony.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Crit_Van_Tuyl/724640623 Crit Van Tuyl

      Interesting article. Our world is changing to be sure. Performance is always the key ingredient for advertising where ever it may reside. The question always being; does it work?

      Personally, I think the future will see advertising become less obvious, more relevant and more intertwined in our lives. People don’t need advertising that distracts. They need advertising that conveys relevant information at the right time in the right context. It is important to note that just because we don’t “need” does not mean we will not get it anyway…

    • sam

      wow… coming from some who runs a BigScam website!

    • http://totallyincorrect.com/?p=305 Internet ads are dead – thank goodness! : Totally Incorrect

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    • Andrew

      I also read this and a dozen other articles today with out even taking noticing a single ad.

      As someone without a stake in online ads at this point, a constant user of internet technologies, and an online consumer, I can say that I trust no ads not even broadcast ads. Information that is paid for isn’t trustworthy, there is an agenda behind it.

      Will ads online completely disappear? no. Will ads have the same goals as they have today? I hope not.

      Changes in the internet are accelerating constantly and just like all other cases of change old ways struggle to survive and new ones struggle to exist. Neither of them will survive forever!!!!

    • http://www.lifemojo.com Himanshu

      Your points is that people don’t need/trust/like advertisements. But hasn’t that always been the case? If it is not relevant to me or its not funny, I don’t like advertisement….right? And nothing has changed on that front!

      I think, the fall in advertisement revenues is primarily because of fear of recession and hence cost-cutting. Marketing and R&D are the two most affected verticals when it comes to cost-cutting.

      So it is perfectly sensible to look for alternate sources of revenue in such times. Build something which people want to pay for!

      I am sure that the advertisement is going to boom again, once the economy is back on track!

    • http://www.texttechnologies.com/2009/03/25/the-grand-discussion-on-the-future-of-journalism/ The grand discussion on the future of journalism | Text Technologies

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    • Isabelle M.

      It seems to me that we are trying to push traditional idea in a different medium. Just like when the Internet hit it big before the bubble bust while everyone was talking about a new economy, which was false. The basic rules of goods and demand still applied.

      I feel the same is happening as for the music industry. If the content is not interesting, than why bother? When an add is good, people watch it and send it around the world. Look at Apple… iTunes works because (like mentioned in article) it creates a desire for the consumer to be part of a certain group (which is also supported by traditional ads on TV by the way). Maybe it has to do with advertisers underestimating their audiences and thinking the same old formula works for all…. Once you have done an TV spot, you take some stills for the print and poster versions, and voila…

    • http://tr3nd.blogspot.com akkad

      I think that advertising will change in two ways:
      First, the ads will be more accurate and will be targeting specialized websites.
      Second, the advertisers will build API’s for their products and will not use specialized advertising networks. I think is cheaper to make your own content interesting for Internet users instead of paying lots of money to ad networks.

    • http://dnbuster.com/2009/03/techcrunch-google-is-doomed-ppc-ad-model-will-fail-our-take/ Domains market » Blog Archive » TechCrunch: Google Is Doomed & PPC Ad Model Will Fail: Our Take

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    • http://weareinto.com Kirk Strobeck

      One advertising business model that I didn’t see addressed and haven’t seen fulfilled in any effective manner is a model in which the content is subject to review. If there was an ad service(s) that gained my credibility by its choices, recommendations, and filtering, then it’s monetary influences would pose a significantly lower detriment.

      From a distance it seems that ads “via the deck” http://decknetwork.net/ are approaching a bit of this arena with their specific approach to clientele.

      I fully endorse your points, but see that it might actually spur on an advertising reflection with increased magnitude. Our inherent distrust and distaste for advertising (especially online) coupled with the impending failure of the “traditional” online advertising model will necessitate the force-finding of a true and sustainable solution.

      The solution, to speculate, will be a trusted guide with filtered content. There may be several demographic networks based on age, or it may simply maintain its search attribute-oriented roots.

      The challenges facing advertisers in the next wave of online promotion will be the actual convincing of the advertising entities themselves. Sources will need to be making true quality web destinations, with real value-added benefits or services, which will effectively have their phase one marketing be advertising to the advertiser.

      This filter gateway will remove all junk websites, literally. Premier networks will be the golden goose, and winning them over will be a professional task, rightly so as users are seeking professional results.

      This push and pull pre-distribution gateway may even lead to face-to-face meetings and real world, old school advertising, and even some “schmoozing.” The fallacy that may be assumed or implied here is that we want to break away from old advertising, but Its not true.

      The wonder of the web and its aspects have always been a means of efficiency. Referencing Second Life; when I saw a demo at a large agency I was in disbelief to see that, while characters could be anything they could imagine, they chose to be human, and often maintain similar real-world traits.

      Bottom line, the future of online advertising will be a remixed return to old school principals and internet-style efficiency. We will use our newly-found trusted advertising advocates to bring us reasonable commercialization and treat us with a general respect for our attention. It will be interesting to see how the formation of the new unwritten social contract of delivery and consumption works with this new wave of personable advertising.

    • http://everythingnorder.com/blog Carole Hicks

      Dude. Seriously. You need to complete a thought using few words. Word.

    • http://www.mccordweb.com Nancy McCord

      Eric,

      This is a very insightful article and has elicited a very strong response from professional SEMs. I have to say that I agree with you, but that we will not see the changes you predict this year. I feel that this is a long view and a future trend, but that being said, we in the industry need to prepare for the change or risk getting left behind.

      Right now paid search advertising works for some clients as there are no great alternatives, but I can see the days of Google’s AdWords auction at the current CPC figures for some accounts going through a major adjustment. When it costs over $11 a click for a cosmetic dentist in San Jose CA as one example, advertisers feel that the price for exposure is just too high and does not provide the return on investment.

      I personally feel that social networking will be turning the SEO and SEM industry on its head in the next few years, but the technology to really make this work well for businesses as lead capture has not fully evolved yet nor ways to share information more fully between users across multi-platforms.

      I hear you, I think advertising online as we know it will be replaced by reviews, personal testimonials, and smart aggregation of data and personal preferences and this is where social networking can easily step in to fill in the blanks, but we are not there yet.

      Personal search is one thrust and Google has announced that it will be capturing ad preferences in the future to help people at least have ad exposure more targeted to their interests, but I have not seen this rolled out yet. This is at least a step in the future direction but still not a real answer.

      You have an interesting point of view and I applaud your far-sightedness. As for me, I am taking note and looking to posture my business and that of my clients to take advantage of some of the future trends you are suggesting.

    • http://Internetadvertisingisn'tfailingnorisitevenchangingmuch,itbeenaregularfactofinternet Karl Moneyman

      Internet advertising isn’t failing nor is it even changing much, it been a regular fact of internet life, since before 2000. The main changes in internet advertising have been the growth of Googles Adsense to near monopoly status and growth in blogging. Googles revenue from advertising has in fact been growth regularly and steady even in this recession. And this reflect a health growth in internet advertising as a whole.

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    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan_Delane/679178092 Ryan Delane

      I’m not sure if I completely agree with everything – but almost all of it is relevant; surely to be considered by advertisers.

      On the other hand, when I’m watching television I DO want to watch; especially as satellite and cable programming becomes more and more niche-based, I often DO watch for advertisers to see who supports the shows and events I like. I then often consider or even patronize those parties simply because of their sponsorship involvement. It is for that reason that I consider becoming an advertiser.

      Secondly, advertising on Television is still the best way to break into a new market with a new product. I’m not referring to sham-wow, but rather to MagicJack, et cetera. A good product that is reviewed positively by the Internet can make its presence felt through advertising, and that is still the strongest media. When you consider launching or testing a new product, there is no faster method to matriculate customers.

      Thanks for the insights. =)

    • http://afine2.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/thinking-the-unthinkable-about-online-social-networks/ Thinking the Unthinkable About Online Social Networks « A. Fine Blog

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    • Beth Parentaeu

      Thoughtful. Reasoned. Provocative. As someone who provides ideas, content, and occasionally ad copy, for b2b clients, I think you’re premise is dead on.

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    • Achim Muellers

      what a great post Eric, I couldn’t agree more:’Internet Advertising’ or even worse ‘Social Media Advertising’ are oxymorons. In a multi-directional environment like the Internet it is imperative to engage your audience and a one-directional tool like advertising just does not engage. Achim

    • http://www.chaoscake.com/the-second-death-of-internet-advertising/ Chaos Cake » Blog Archive » The Second Death of Internet Advertising

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    • http://angusgastle.com/blog/2009/03/25/eric-clemons-thinks-advertising-is-dead/ Eric Clemons thinks advertising is dead | The Bottom Rung

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    • Peter

      I don’t understand all the personal attacks by commenters, but it reminds me of the type of language you hear while playing a game on Xbox live; mostly teens who don’t understand social appropriateness. The author simply put forth facts, figures, and theories. I personally saw nothing offensive about the article.

      The fact that people don’t trust advertisers unfortunately doesn’t stop them from buying things as a result of seeing ads. This is plain to see … just think of SPAM email and why it proliferates, because enough idiots actually buy the junk it is selling.

      I agree with the author that the mistrust of advertisers will eventually results in a decrease of online advertising effectiveness and eventually revenue, but I think this will only happen as other sources of good information replace the information we get from advertising.

      And I do find it pretty funny that the article does contain quite a few examples of what could be sponsored placement.

    • http://SusanFitzgerald.com Susan

      It would be interesting to hear your views of the future of higher education. It seems to me that the whole educational system as we know it, is truly endangered by the internet.

    • http://sparcplug.com Matt

      Eric Clemons is spot on when he says “Pushing a message at a potential customer when it has not been requested and when the consumer is in the midst of something else on the net, will fail as a major revenue source for most internet sites.”

      At SparcPlug.com, we’re the first to start an entirely new form of Internet marketing – one we refer to as “self-directed”. You can read about it at justKnow.com (justKnow/media campaigns).

    • Micah

      Eric:

      Excellent article. I am a 28-year-old web developer and I am one of the consumers you mention in your article that “does not want to view advertising”.

      For businessmen surfing and viewing these posts, there is a generation arising that will refuse to make any exchange of commerce unless they have unbiased information about products or services they are interested in, gained through 3rd party sources (ie, friends, family, internet reviews, etc). I get a good laugh from TV and print ads, but I can honestly tell you I do not have cable TV, I do not have any subscriptions to magazines, I do not watch regular broadcasts for 1 main reason – every company that exists needs revenue, to get this revenue many turn to advertising to increase customer awareness and to get their new products or services noticed. Their sole purpose is to drain me of my finances through dynamic imagery, video, audio, and tantalizing content. Having worked in several retail positions where the goal each day was to “up-sell” everything – it is easy to see what companies need: REVENUE. When they don’t have it – they fire, lay-off and collapse – all the while trying to push the amount of work their employees do, and get as much done with as little workforce as possible. When companies start realizing that their REAL NEED is “people”, and not mass sales and over-priced CEOs, we may see a turn for the better.

      In the meantime, I will keep surfing, laughing, and purchasing merchandise when I need, based off non-biased internet reviews – not based off million-dollar advertising campaigns.

      Keep up the good work!

    • http://adlust.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/the-potential-unpleasantness-of-advertisings-future-beckons/ The Potential Unpleasantness of Advertising’s Future Beckons « MEDIA + AD + NEWS

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    • well

      I disagree with the notion that advertisement is that influential.
      Most ads look cheap and therefore untrustworthy.

      I used to enjoy Facebook until it became such visual contamination.

      I am sure I am not the exception as all of my friends who do shop online go to the sites directly and don’t need some colorful ad to get there.

      I know that sites live from the ads, but at least there should be a limit per page or a limit to how many times the SAME ad can be placed.

    • http://www.trionia.com/blog/2009/03/25/is-traditional-advertising-dead/ Is Traditional Advertising Dead? | Trionia

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    • http://blog.pyramidradioinc.com/2009/03/25/opinion-internet-ads-effectiveness-waning/ OPINION: Internet Ads, Effectiveness Waning | iSAW – In-Store Advertising World

      [...] OPINION: Internet Ads, Effectiveness Waning March 25th, 2009 Author: gbach Goto comments Leave a comment The days of “pushed” ads in traditional media are fleeting and the effectiveness of the click-thru and search based internet ads is also waning. At least, that’s what Eric Clemons has to say on the subject.   Apparently advertising as we know it is on the decline because consumers do not trust advertising, they don’t want advertising, and they don’t need advertising anymore thanks to the internet. The internet gives people limitless options and unprecedented freedom of information allowing people to make more educated decisions about the products and services they buy. Also, the internet is participatory, ”like swapping stories around a campfire or attending a renaissance fair” making it completely different from traditional venues like television, radio, movie theaters, newspapers, etc. where information and advertising is “pushed” in only one direction: at the consumer. However, as participatory as the internet is, even webpage ads are becoming more and more ineffective; People don’t want to be bothered by them while trying to complete their virtual tasks, so people are finding more ways to avoid or ignore the advertising all together.   Clemons believes that people would pay to use a Google-esque search engine if it had no advertising or search misdirection (using search terms to direct consumers to relevant products). I disagree completely. I believe that part of the freedom of the internet is that the information is absolutely free and, furthermore, the proliferation of advertising is an accepted part of our society. Today, kids grow up learning how to socialize with other kids, have manners, color inside the lines, share with others, and ignore advertising. It’s just human nature. However, that doesn’t mean that advertising does nothing. Even if you merely glance at or hear a short clip of an advertisement, the concept is registered in your brain and that particular brand is that much closer to making an impact. Just like any personal relationship, the more that you see a certain product advertised, the more comfortable you become with the idea of incorporating that product into your life: Coca-cola, Apple, Viagra… whatever!   Even though Clemons makes some great points here, I think he underestimates how advertising can change with the times. Out of home advertising (like in-store and SMS ads, for instance) will continue to grow because they inform consumers about relevant products and promotions while they are in shopping-mode. It’s just logical that a person is more prone to respond to a toilet paper ad when they hear it in the toilet paper aisle than when they are looking at their Facebook profile or watching the Superbowl. Long story short, advertising will always be an effective way of spreading brand awareness. The trick is implementing it at the right place at the right time. LINK [...]

    • http://leftbay.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/looking-for-alternatives-to-paid-ads/ Looking for Alternatives to Paid Ads « Left Bay’s Musings on the Media

      [...] 25, 2009 at 10:54 am · Filed under 1 There’s a pretty good back and forth going over a TechCrunch guest article that opined that most ad models will “fail” on the internet. The article, by Eric [...]

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    • http://www.internexperts.com Mark Bonham

      Eric –

      Actually, I think the Economist is making a completely different point. Your point appears to be that Internet advertising is ineffective, etc. The Economist’s point is that most companies will not survive purely on an advertising-based revenue model. You need a tremendous, highly-valued audience to make that model work, and it is simply out of the reach of most companies, on the fragmented web.

      I think the death of Internet advertising is highly premature. Granted, in its current form, it is very ineffective, but it is also in a very early stage of development. As the industry continues to mature and evolve, I expect it will be evolve into a more conversational and engaging form.

    • http://www.ourseatatthetable.com/uncategorized/whos-fragmented-now/ Who’s Fragmented Now? | Our Seat at the Table

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    • http://twitter.com/andrewrowland Andrew

      Last time I checked advertising didn’t equal marketing.

      This whole guys thesis is “people aren’t as stupid as the used to be”

      Really it is people have much easier access to relevant information about a given company or product that they did in the past. Historically, advertisements and word of mouth were my only sources for information on a product or co

      NOW, the web gives you access, in real time, to all the word of mouth you can handle.

      Like it or not, all of the search engine’s algorithms are based on word of mouth. Think about it. An inbound link is the same as a customer refferal. Someone (some website) pointed at you and said this is a good source for

      Internet advertising may be dying, but internet marketing is here to stay. The ways that a web marketer can drive traffic, interaction, create engagement, dialogue, and buzz to their websites increases everyday.

      The key is making sure that you don’t have skeleton’s in your closet, because savvy consumers are going to find them!@

      Internet marketing is going no where.
      Internet advertising will die! I haven’t seen an ad browsing the web in years (yeah adblock plus!)
      BUT!

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    • http://www.germaine.be/2009/03/25/were-doomed/ We’re doomed. | GERMAINE

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    • Fogluver

      The author’s premise that advertising as we know it may become extinct is incorrect from the beginning because he assumes that everyone is a geek, hyper-intellectual type like he is (might be)?

      I invite you to go to any middle class, urban or suburban CVS or other store that has magazines. Most people are reading US, Maxim, Martha Stewart, Cosmo, or People, or watching TMZ, Gossip Girl, pro sports on TV. These are things the “regular folk” like to do, especially watching mindless sitcoms with celebrities on their 52″ HDTV’s. They enjoy being told something they buy will make them feel important and have some status in society.

      You don’t understand American culture or advertising – I suggest you watch Mad Men.

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    • http://thecauseisthehabit.com Damien Basile

      What an intelligent response. Very well thought out. I’m sure write really epic things. Oh wait, I can’t check into that can I? You didn’t leave your credentials. Way to hide behind anonymity. ha

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    • http://tinyurl.com/CarolineDangson Caroline Dangson

      I would agree that Internet, especially social media, is changing traditional business models. Advertisers must change the way they approach advertising online – display ads do not work. Publishers should look to more than just advertising as a business model. That said, IDC believes advertising will remain an important business model for online content. While consumers are annoyed by Internet ads, they hate paying for content even more. IDC U.S. Consumer Online Attitudes Survey Data shows that 73% online U.S. consumers prefer advertising for free content over paying for content that is ad free. Yes, consumers can choose to ignore ads – that’s when the creative work comes in for advertisers. Ads must provide value. Consumers expect media to be free – it has been for TV and will continue to be for the Internet. The exception is if they want to own content – then they pay, but our surveys show that streaming media online is more popular than downloading media today. Expect to hear more about this from IDC. For more information about IDC primary research on this topic, visit http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=213481, http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=214899. This data is not ad supported and requires payment (;

    • Big Jim Slade

      Eric,

      Great article, sound thinking. However, I feel you may have a narrow view of what advertising is. Your definition was written to make a point specific to ‘the interwebs’.

      And, truth be told, most ad strategy that was developed in the ‘TV era’ has had a hard time migrating to ‘the interweb era’.

      To move ahead, we have to go back, so-to-speak. Contemporary advertising was created TO BUILD BRANDS. So when we discuss advertising, we need to keep it in context of Brand building.

      Most ‘interweb era’ advertising is simply thinly disguised sales tactics. When ‘interweb era’ advocates speak about ROI and efficiency, they are ralking simply about a way to move more product, which has always been as simple as a ‘buy-one-get-one-free’ tactic. Bingo! Instant sales.

      But the bigger picture is, “How do you build Brands in a completely fragmented media environment?” The answer is, “With purpose”

      The audience is still here. And yes, they trust ‘advertising’ as little as they ever have. But it is a true-ism, that, “Everybody says they are not affected by advertising”.

      Yet everyone is. Period. Even someone like myself, who studied mass communication in college, and has worked in advertising for 15 years, is affected. The reason is psychology and anthropology.

      People (consumers) communicate to each other, what they think of themselves, by the choices they make in purchasing stuff.

      Charles Horton Cooley’s: The Looking Glass Self “I am not what I think I am, nor am I what others think I am, I am what I think other think I am.”

      Broadly, this is the psychological opportunity that advertising exploits, and will continue to exploit. The purpose of life is to create YOU. Make something completely original. A major way that we define ourself is though what we buy, be it clothing, cars, food or spirits.

      The bulk of your article is how the democratization of tools on ‘the interwebs’ has lead to unsustainable business models. Basically, there is a bubble among ad-supported sites, and it will collapse. I agree.

      But real advertising works in the mind, and unfortunately there’s an increasing number of ‘ad professionals’ who never understood the craft of advertising in the first place.

    • http://pivotlabs.com/2009/03/is-advertising-on-the-internet-dead/ Is advertising on the Internet dead? « PivotLabs LC

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    • Greg Wood

      The fundamental premise of the post is incorrect. Of course people do not want to watch ads but does that mean that ads have no influence? No. People purchase things for both rational reasons (information about the product or service and what my friends like) and emotional reasons (how does the product make me feel, what social value do I get by associating with the brand). Good advertising satisfies both needs. Can the needs be satisfied in banner ads? Yes, especially if the banner ad delivers an experience that is valuable.

      Interesting perspective though and it certainly got folks talking which is always a good thing.

    • http://ShaverAssociates.net Rob

      Overall I agree but two points bother me.

      1. I think your definition of advertising is too narrow. You say that “Advertising is using sponsored commercial messages to build a brand and paying to locate these messages where they will be observed by potential customers performing other activities”.

      When I go to the phone companies yellow pages then I’m going there to look find a service by looking at the advertising. I’m not doing something else. My wife subscribes to the Sunday paper primarily to get the advertising. So if we read any articles it’s a byproduct of why we got the thing in the first place.

      2. Your of “misdirection” is a biased term implying that there is a “correct” way to do search. Why do you say that it “sending customers to web locations other than the ones for which they are searching”? I don’t see that.

      If I search for “pet food” then I expect to find pet food manufactures, sellers and articles about pet food. When I tried this, that’s exactly what I got. If I search for “PetSmart” then I get PetSmart links. If I search for “PetCo” I get PetCo links.

      I have not be misdirected that I can see.

      3. Advertising at its best just informs people about what’s available when they are looking for something. Example: Yellow Pages. At it’s worst it interfears with what I’m doing. Example: SPAM.

      So, like all things human, it can be used for good or evil.

    • http://ShaverAssociates.net Rob

      Twitter post from a friend.

    • http://ShaverAssociates.net Rob

      Anger occurs when reasoning fails and vested beliefs are challenged. Anger here is because you’ve poked at the “sacred cow” of advertising.

    • http://tradejim.com/netizens-dont-want-advertisers-crashing-their-party/ Stock Trading News » Blog Archive » Netizens Don’t Want Advertisers Crashing Their Party

      [...] management at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, said that advertising is not a sustainable model for internet revenue for three main reasons: People don’t trust, want or need advertising. [...]

    • http://www.nikitab.com Nikita Bernstein

      IMHO it’s not failing of advertising, but streamlining of information flows. Before advertising was putting yourself in front of a potential customer in a tunnel and screaming “buy me”. Now the tunnel is no more – we are on a field and the situation became more complex with advertising now a process of reaching your potential target market.

      With that in mind, how much money you spend to reach me becomes a measure of how sure you are that I need your product.

      For this reason I think in some contexts (like Google contextual ads) advertising actually has higher credibility than search results – search is inefficient with THE algorithm deciding what I should be shown. While, paid advertising is a system where I know I will see ads that are a function of conversion and amount spent to reach me. So I often actually search on Google and use the Ad section rather than the search results – of course this is me and perhaps my anecdotal evidence is not indicative of the overall trend.

      However, with this in mind, I think that there is a shift from “traditional advertising” to other flavors of advertising – bidding, vertical, etc.

      And then there are various purposes. For example, where before brand-building before consisted of getting some James Dean-looking model to pose with your product on a billboard, now it could be getting press through getting involved with a CSR-related project. (I am working on a side project to try to push this: http://happy.st... if you have suggestions, would appreciate input).

      My main point is that you focused on a dying area/methods of advertising and, in this, you may be right. However, there is an emergence of a plethora of other models that enable smaller players to reach vertical markets on smaller budgets and allow for rapid scaling when a product meets a need.

      Not having done the research, I don’t know whether this direction would be sufficient to sustain and/or grow the advertising space, but I didn’t see you addressing this in your article.

    • http://www.inf.unisi.ch/postdoc/lelli/ Francesco Lelli

      Well we should not forget about “real price” and the price that a customer “feels as a fair price”. I guess that due to the crisis both prices are just getting close.
      I believe that the words “is failing” where used by the prof just in a provocative way.

    • detroit adman

      The death of advertising on the internet? And the death of advertising overall? Where to start, Mr. Clemons?

      Some overall points to consider:
      1. Academics have written about (hoped for) the death of advertising since, well, the beginning of advertising. I can remember similar arguments springing up every five years since I started in this business, 25 years ago. It’s still not dead.
      2. Your assumption that peer-produced reviews and recommendation will replace advertising misses one very important point: most people who write a review are writing to complain. And those that write in praise are just as likely to be shills for the company or product in question. (Most good ad agencies now employ “Review Writers.”)
      3. As a writer, I expect to be paid for my talent and efforts. Not the pennies one gets from subscription sites. But a real working wage. All the journalists at the Financial Times and other subscription sites that you mention are paid in advertising dollars. The pittance that they charge for subscriptions isn’t nearly enough to keep those highly-paid journalists on the job. So, if you want to see your content quality drop precipitously, try a subscriber-only monetization model.
      4. Creative advertising and branding will always trump practical purchase decisions. There are plenty of non-Apple mp3 players on the market that have greater capabilities, so why did you elect to buy that iPod? It wasn’t a rational decision. For that matter, without advertising, how would you have even known that an iPod existed? Word of mouth is completely unreliable, and peer recommendations can too easily be corrupted (See number 2).
      Well, I could go on. But I have to get back to delivering 6 million coupons to people who didn’t ask for them, secure in the knowledge that 12 percent of consumers will use them, and with gratitude.
      Thanks for listening!

    • http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2009/03/26/content-is-the-most-trusted-form-of-advertising/ How to make advertising pay | Small Business Marketing Blog from Duct Tape Marketing

      [...] sticky // With the precipitous fall of advertising in the mainstream media some are starting to wonder publicly if advertising has once and for all run its course as an effective marketing vehicle. To this I say [...]

    • http://deandonaldson.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/why-internet-advertising-will-not-fail/ Why Internet advertising will not fail « Nothing to Hide?

      [...] advertising will not fail So seems as the near 600 comments in response to Eric Clemons, Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet on TechCrunch this week is striking a few chords with some and ruffling a few feathers with others. [...]

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dean_Donaldson/581155296 Dean Donaldson

      Mr Clemons, you asked for a continued informed debate by those with a vested interest.

      Then allow me to offer you my reality check:
      “Why Internet Advertsing will NOT fail.”

      http://deandonaldson.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/why-internet-advertising-will-not-fail/

    • http://www.alexanderhuber.de/2009/03/26/was-bringt-werbung-im-internet/ Was bringt Werbung (im Internet)? « NullEinsund42

      [...] Zufall bin ich über einen Artikel auf techcrunch.com gestoßen, der im englischsprachigen Raum offenbar einige Beachtung erfährt und [...]

    • http://businessblogs.postdown.com/2009/03/26/content-is-the-most-trusted-form-of-advertising/ Business & Finance Blogs » Blog Archive » Content is the Most Trusted Form of Advertising

      [...] the precipitous fall of advertising in the mainstream media some are starting to wonder publicly if advertising has once and for all run its course as an effective marketing vehicle. To this I say [...]

    • Kati

      Even with the advent of Tivo & DVR, we still have yet to see TV ads go away, right?

      I have to say this article is off base. Advertising makes the world go round and the advantage of having advertising online is that we have better ways to track and use data to deliver more targeted advertisements. THIS IS SUCH A GREAT THING. Online advertising may change, but there will always be some sort of online advertising because we do not want to start paying for the free blogs and tools we love.

      I very much agree with Allen Weiss of MarketingProfs in regards to Eric’s article:
      http://www.mpdailyfix.com/2009/03/the_end_of_advertising.html

    • http://www.JohnWEllis.com/2009/03/pay-per-click-budge/ Budget? What budget? it’s pay-per-click « John W Ellis

      [...] what “experts” say, advertising is NOT failing on the internet. In fact, any real expert will tell you that search marketing is stronger than [...]

    • http://zachwise.com/social/lifestream/daily-digest-for-2009-03-26/ Zach Wise » Daily Digest for 2009-03-26

      [...] Bookmarked a link on Delicious. Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet [...]

    • http://www.etecia.com/highland-capital-partners-digital-media-insights-rww-interview/ Highland Capital Partners: Digital Media Insights (RWW Interview) | Web News Aggregation

      [...] Some recent blog chatter says that online advertising is doomed. The best reasoned case for this is made by Doc Searls (of ClueTrain Manifesto fame), who is touting his radical Vendor Relationship Management (VRM) as an alternative. Searls is an academic (Harvard Berkman Center). Another academic, Eric Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, kicked up a storm with his guest post on TechCrunch titled “Why Advertising Is Failing on the Internet.” [...]

    • http://ciarannorris.co.uk Ciaran

      Absolutely agree that advertising can not fund the entire web, along with sport (sponsorship), music, TV & publishing. Something has to give.

      That said, in terms of the suggested replacements, there are an awful lot of times where predictions are prefaced with ‘I think’ or ‘I would’ or ‘I do’: this suggests that the author is like the average consumer when it’s patently obvious that he’s not.

    • http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vrm/2009/03/27/is-vrm-radical/ ProjectVRM Blog » Is VRM radical?

      [...] I’m less comfortable with these remarks in Bernard’s post: Some recent blog chatter says that online advertising is doomed. The best reasoned case for this is made by Doc Searls (of ClueTrain Manifesto fame), who is touting his radical Vendor Relationship Management (VRM) as an alternative. Searls is an academic (Harvard Berkman Center). Another academic, Eric Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, kicked up a storm with his guest post on TechCrunch titled “Why Advertising Is Failing on the Internet.” [...]

    • http://www.ratepoint.com Yvonne

      I agree that advertising may not be the way to most effectively capture the attention of your potential customers online. For both new client acquisition and retention, try a more targeted approach with e-mail marketing to better evaluate, assess and validate your message.

      That way you can tailor your message to the
      appropriate audience and have a protocol for managing your online reputation.

      According to a recent report from The Center for Media Research, 71% of consumers remember email communications when making purchases at the sending company’s web site. Try checking out the company I work for, RatePoint (www.ratepoint.com) for further direction.

    • http://technicnews.com/highland-capital-partners-digital-media-insights-rww-interview Technic News » Highland Capital Partners: Digital Media Insights (RWW Interview)

      [...] Some recent blog chatter says that online advertising is doomed. The best reasoned case for this is made by Doc Searls (of ClueTrain Manifesto fame), who is touting his radical Vendor Relationship Management (VRM) as an alternative. Searls is an academic (Harvard Berkman Center). Another academic, Eric Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, kicked up a storm with his guest post on TechCrunch titled “Why Advertising Is Failing on the Internet.” [...]

    • http://technicnews.com/highland-capital-partners-digital-media-insights-rww-interview Technic News » Highland Capital Partners: Digital Media Insights (RWW Interview)

      [...] Some recent blog chatter says that online advertising is doomed. The best reasoned case for this is made by Doc Searls (of ClueTrain Manifesto fame), who is touting his radical Vendor Relationship Management (VRM) as an alternative. Searls is an academic (Harvard Berkman Center). Another academic, Eric Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, kicked up a storm with his guest post on TechCrunch titled “Why Advertising Is Failing on the Internet.” [...]

    • http://helenanm.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/is-internet-advertising-dead-yet/ Is Internet advertising dead yet? « Helena Makhotlova’s blog

      [...] recent article on TechCrunch, written by Eric Clemons: Why Advertising is Failing on the Internet prompted a heated debate on the subject both in the comments and other blogs. The author’s [...]

    • http://richardjohnson.com/?p=495 Netizens Don’t Want Advertisers Crashing Their Party | Richard Johnson | The Get Rich Guy

      [...] management at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, said that advertising is not a sustainable model for internet revenue for three main reasons: People don’t trust, want or need advertising. [...]

    • http://www.neurosoftware.ro/programming-blog/blogposter/web-resources/highland-capital-partners-digital-media-insights-rww-interview/ Highland Capital Partners: Digital Media Insights (RWW Interview) | Programming Blog

      [...] Some recent blog chatter says that online advertising is doomed. The best reasoned case for this is made by Doc Searls (of ClueTrain Manifesto fame), who is touting his radical Vendor Relationship Management (VRM) as an alternative. Searls is an academic (Harvard Berkman Center). Another academic, Eric Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, kicked up a storm with his guest post on TechCrunch titled “Why Advertising Is Failing on the Internet.” [...]

    • http://AdBundler Jimbo

      Does anyone take “impression” as a factor for delivery? TV, radio and Cable do, why is that not as valid on the Internet?

    • http://www.ahoving.com Allan Hoving

      We’re moving on now, folks, to the next stages of grief: “the upward turn” and “reconstruction and working through.” We now focus on developing new online revenue models that will support (we hope profitably) all these wonderful organizations and people. For your consideration: a User-Centric Online Revenue Model I call PayCheckr (“Keeping what’s read in the black”) at http://www.paycheckr.com

    • Jeremy

      “But I was ridiculed in 1999 for ridiculing click throughs, eyeballs, online grocery sales and online pet food. But thanks for at least starting with an apology. I appreciate that. I will publish a retraction if and when it seems appropriate.”

      So are these all of your predictions you have made or just the ones you got right :-)

    • http://climbthebottom.wordpress.com/ ThatGuySteve

      Eric, I agree and have seen online advertising fail in a previous job. Currently I am working for a federation of sites that use advertising for revenues and, again, we have been seeing revenue slip.

      I heard an idea and have been tossing around lately and adapting it and would like your opinion on it.

      In short, it would treat advertising as a part of a community aspect. It works more with videos that just sites. How it would work is the user would be given a selection of stills (logos, still frame, thumbnails, percentages -45% OFF, etc.) and then you would get to ‘Pick and Play’ your offer.

      The thought behind it is that you are now involving the user to pick their offer rather than feeding them an ad.

      Let me know what you think.

    • http://nicka77.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet « #worldview
    • Ron Stitt

      This is one of those pieces where if you get past the sensationalistic headline you can find a lot to agree with, even if the fundamental premise is wrong. The thesis stated is that the internet “cannot support all the applications and all the content we want on the internet” – inarguable. But it does not follow that internet advertising cannot continue to grow.

      Another argument is that “ads aren’t trusted”. True, WOM has always had more credibility, even pre-internet. But ads always have played a role and always will.. the antidote to the trust issue is BRAND. The author is a marketing scientest and so therefore should be aware that brand equity is not an abstraction, it absolutely can be quantified. The concept of branding will rise again online…overarching focus on transactions is seen in every recession, as is a return to building brand equity in the aftermath. On the internet, the pendulum was already starting to swing back this way before the current recession began, and that will resume after it ends.

      “People don’t want ads”… more or less true, and they never have. But they are willing to tolerate them if the tradeoff between value delivered and price ie; free is calibrated correctly, and the internet is becoming an increasingly finely-honed tool that will enable us to do exactly that.

      “People don’t need ads”… well, that’s almost a philosophical or ideological discussion. I would just point out that it is neither more nor less true now than it ever was.

      “No scarcity of ad outlets to drive pricing”. If you don’t make a distinction between professional content and UGC, this may be true. But as someone in the online publishing industry I will tell you that I believe the distinction is becoming increasingly clear to both users and advertisers. It will be blindingly obvious when the migration of video/motion picture content online is complete, especially entertainment. Professional and UGC are two separate ecosystems that overlap more online than they used to offline in that there is greater potential to insert ads into personal media than there used to be, but definitely no one wants ads here, especially advertisers. BTW, there have always been professional and private media (Print: personal letters vs. books, Audio: Personal phone calls vs. radio, etc.). What’s new is the misguided belief that all that UGC COULD be ad-supported just because the technology enables it.

      I don’t believe a free ad-supported internet will be able to carry the entire media business on it’s back, nor has a free ad-supported model ever carried the entire media business on it’s back. The real issue for online advertising is that the awareness/brand/promotion/DR equation was thrown out of whack because of the ability to measure clicks, and a subsequent hyper-focus on optimizing for that. A total “purchase cycle funnel” awareness is coming back now though, and the internet can evolve to support that more sophisticated multidimensional approach to driving sales and brand equity. Therefore, internet advertising still has enormous upside.

      I congratulate you on provoking a rise out of everybody though…more than that, some thought-provoking ideas.

    • Katelyn Salkin

      This just isn’t a strong argument. I don’t want, need, or trust this guy’s opinion yet I am listening and reacting strongly to it. It’s no different than people who don’t want, need or trust advertising.

      The suggestion that people don’t react to things they don’t like or want – in any medium – is preposterous. This would suggest that not only does online and broadcast advertising not work, the entire field of advertising has been useless since its conception.

    • http://www.ratepoint.com Yvonne

      I agree that advertising may not be the way to most effectively capture the attention of your potential customers online. For both new client acquisition and retention, try a more targeted approach with e-mail marketing to better evaluate, assess and validate your message.

      That way you can tailor your message to the appropriate audience and have a protocol for managing your online reputation.

      According to a recent report from The Center for Media Research, 71% of consumers remember email communications when making purchases at the sending company’s web site.

      Try checking out the company I work for, RatePoint (www.ratepoint.com for further direction.

    • Feder is Better

      I believe you have a good point, Mr. Clemens. Although, I’d like to refute your four streamlined points at the bottom of your post.

      1) People don’t trust ads – I agree, however only because of a lack of merit thanks to decades of pretentious advertising. I believe people will trust ads if the advertiser trusts the consumer’s competence. A simple, direct message with an overt product or service benefit sans glamorous ad-speak is trustworthy. I think a perfect example is the current Hyundai campaign. Do you not trust their offer?

      2) People don’t want ads – I agree and disagree. Yes, we despise interruptions to our suspenseful television dramas, but we do also appreciate and enjoy a truly great ad. Some outstanding ads become viral sensations on the web. And great ads-well produced and offering a unique perspective-can make people rethink assumptions they may have. Everyone enjoys a pleasant surprise, even if it comes from an advertiser.

      3) People don’t need ads – Once again, I agree and disagree. If I want something, I can research where to find it and who offers it at the best value…on my own. However, I believe many people are inherently lazy and would rather have ads tell them where to get something so they don’t have to exert any energy doing research themselves. It’s a sad truth, I know.

      4) There is no shortage of ad space – I agree 100%.

      All in all, I agree with your message. I just believe you may be a little harsh on advertising in general. Whether people trust, want or need advertising or not, the point is their BS meters are more finely tuned these days. So no matter the medium, marketers better make sure they have something relevant to say, and they better say it straight. Period.

    • http://www.businesspundit.com/this-weeks-links-31/ This Week’s Links | Business Pundit

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    • mjd

      Heard a radio ad the other day for a show — went on line and bought tickets for my family. Had a great time at the show.

      Think what you want but consumers – users – listenerss – viewers still want to made aware of what is available to them. I would have had no idea about the show without the radio ad. On line is where you go to seek information but sometimes you need to be reminded what is available and all forms of media both traditional advertsising mediums and social sites, word of mouth et al can still serve that function.

    • http://www.copywriteink.blogspot.com Richard Becker

      Eric,

      I’ve been receiving several questions about this post since I responded on Wed. And, I find I have to address again today.

      Even as someone who is outcome oriented, it seems to me that this won’t require five years to refute. You are not considering sensory capacity, orientation, or familiarity in your argument.

      If you had, you would conclude that the product with the most previous impressions (yes, even banner ads) would likely be the review that the people would gravitate toward on a site because they have already heard about the product.

      So does that mean the review serves as an influencer or a validator. Hmmm. I think you might turn to psychology more often to develop these models. Communication is not a singular event.

      All my best,
      Rich

    • http://economic-blog.com/this-week%e2%80%99s%c2%a0links-2 This Week’s Links

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    • http://realidealist.net/2009/03/28/internet-advertising-is-failing-to-market-to-customers/ Internet Advertising is Failing to Market to Customers

      [...] is complete and total heresy happening over at techcrunch.com.  Eric Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at The Wharton School of the [...]

    • Danny

      This guy is phenomenal
      the amount of responses here shows that he hit right spot in most of us ppl here that depend on online ads economy
      its a bitter pill to swallow cause he essentially says that how most of us are approaching online ads in the wrong manner and its time for us to change…but change is hard and makes us all uncomfortable

    • http://www.kikabink.com/news/1087/university-professor-condemns-online-advertising-to-fail/ University Professor Condemns Online Advertising To Fail

      [...] Eric Clemons, “Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet,” TechCrunch, March 22, 2009 Share and [...]

    • http://withoutacitywall.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/advertising-failing-on-the-net/ Advertising Failing On The Net? « without a city wall

      [...] Advertising Failing On The Net? While newspapers may be folding, all is not so cut and dried on the Net when it comes to filling the advertising void. Check out what one net guru thinks. [...]

    • http://asiavacation.brighterplanet.org On vacation in Asia

      Precisely! Ads change, people change and societies change. What worked yesterday may not work tomorrow. But there will be a different way that will work. We just need to test different models and go for the one(s) that’s most effective.

      There’s a lot of psychology and research going into advertising — to me that’s an indication that we always want to find more effective ways to advertise what we have to offer. And that involves change in how we do things.

    • http://communicationskillblog.com Communication Skills

      I wonder what people on the social networking sites like facebook for example think. I thought that they didn’t want to be advertised to anymore and that’s why they “escaped the Internet” and joined these sites. And now, ads are appearing there too.

      This is a very interesting debate and made me think… How many different ways are there other than the traditional one to offer what we have to people who may want what we have? How can we create attraction rather than alienation?

    • http://www.hyokon.com hyokon

      The post certainly did the job of “fostering debate,” with 626 comments. I wouldn’t say the ‘free + ads’ model is dead, but what’s wrong with paid content? It must be a good thing if it works.

      I am happy to see more attempts for paid contents (and against free only arguments). Is the tide turning?

    • http://www.the20life.com/2009/03/28/the-best-of-whats-around-24/ The Best of What’s Around, #24 – The 2.0 Life

      [...] TechCrunch – "Why Advertising is Failing on the Internet" [...]

    • http://vivid.withtank.com Wouter

      Scary but so true. I block out ads online anyway, as soon as I see them. Adblock Plus is just very effective, so my online experience is to find what I need, not what others think I might need.

      Thanks for the great post!

    • http://topfreelancewriting.com/2009/is-online-advertising-failing-or-changing/ Is online advertising failing or changing? | Top Freelance Writing

      [...] Clemons, over on Tech Crunch, tells us that advertising is failing. I won’t go into his full argument, but suffice to say that he feels there is little place [...]

    • http://www.lsdi.it/2009/03/28/ma-internet-sta-distruggendo-la-pubblicita/ LSDI : Ma internet sta distruggendo la pubblicità?

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    • http://www.datadrivesmedia.com/we-are-undergoing-the-greatest-media-transformation-in-history/ Data Drives Media

      “We are Undergoing the Greatest Media Transformation in History”…

      My headline is a quote from Morgan Stanley’s Mary Meeker in her “Economy + Internet Trends” presentation published just last week:

      Meeker Tech ‘09 – Get more Business Plans
      Here are a few of my favorite slides:

      Advertisers ar…

    • http://www.blogs.dhenderson.com/David_Henderson/?p=373 David Henderson’s Blog » Blog Archive » It’s not just Internet Advertising that is Failing – the World have Fundamentally Changed

      [...] Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet – by Eric Clemons on March 22, 2009 [...]

    • http://www.polarityinc.com Steve

      Eric – I commend you for having the dice the state both the obvious, and not-so obvious (Jason – instead of destroying your personal brand through name-calling, try Decaf and offer up some constructive insights … we may actually listen then).

      I agree that consumers don’t need advertising — at least the way traditional advertising has been structured (a monolog). What consumers will respond to is engagement (a dialogue).

      Both sides of this argument have a point:

      (1) Traditional advertising IS dying, HAS been dying, and will CONTINUE to die — because no matter how many times I see another “Ford Truck Month” ad, I’m not buying a pick-up truck.

      Advertising and direct mail may be the only businesses on earth where a 1% success rate (99% failure rate) is considered acceptable.

      (2) However, to the extent advertising migrates into a true dialogue exchange that truly personalizes a multi-step information experience, then we might witness lead conversion rates, etc. actually increase.

      We all want to consume content for free and recognize advertisers are the ticket to the free lunch, right? But here’s the other reality — the ad dollars only continue flowing if there’s an ROI (or the agency’s continue to tell their clients not to worry about measurement).

      Anyone doing any real sales funnel metrics measuring lead conversion, ROI, customer LTV, etc. realizes that CONTENT IS KING — so if an ad can engage (via relevant, personalized, timely content) then great — ads will thrive. But it is going to take a wholesale reinvention of what an ad looks like.

      So Eric — I agree with you that nobody needs to be interrupted (ask Seth Godin); however, to pronounce advertising “dead” ignores the multi-billion dollar revenues at stake to agencies. A few will figure it out and the rest will die.

    • http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/28/steel-cage-debate-on-the-future-of-online-advertising-danny-sullivan-vs-eric-clemons/ Steel Cage Debate On The Future Of Online Advertising: Danny Sullivan Vs. Eric Clemons

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      [...] Publishing, Marketing, Web, Business The future of online advertising: Danny Sullivan vs. Eric Clemons; http://tr.im/hVKE   [...]

    • http://tech-whiz.info/steel-cage-debate-on-the-future-of-online-advertising-danny-sullivan-vs-eric-clemons/ Tech Whiz Underground » Steel Cage Debate On The Future Of Online Advertising: Danny Sullivan Vs. Eric Clemons

      [...] note: Last Sunday, we published a guest post by Wharton Professor Eric Clemons on “Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet.” The post questioned a basic assumption that many of us in the tech industry hold near and dear. It [...]

    • http://www.OurSeatAtTheTable.com OurSeat

      The professor is right that consumers are now in control. And at best, they are ambivalent to advertising. He is also correct that media has gone from near cartel-like power to hyper-fragmented and with that, comes a loss of power.

      What Prof Clemons missed is that consumers, once fragmented, are now easily united. The shift in power from media to consumers will lead to a shift the flow of money in the ad economy. Consumers provide all the goods and services that advertisers are buying and now can aggregate themselves as easily as a media company can. In my blog, http://www.OurSeatAtTheTable.com, I discuss how fixing the advertising economy removes all of the doom predictors raised in this article.

    • http://www.freekii.com Mark

      Online advertising has reached about 8% of all world wide marketing budgets. It is almost at the tipping point where it will begin the climb to 90% based on the S-curve. The next 10 years should be some major growth so get ready. Imagine if Google does $40 Billion in revenues, in 10 years they will be doing $400 Billion. Imagine what the online marketing arena will look like with that much revenue with digital trackable online advertising.

      Study the Auto industry in 1920 where majority of shareholders sold their shares because they thought the potential was reached. Make no mistake, every major trend does this, it is about to start growing at a rapid very very rapid pace. The last 10 years was slow.

      Businesses that stop spending on advertising to save money are the same people that would stop the clock to save time. Be ready… be very ready!

    • http://m-ln.com mikey

      nope. Clemens is WRONG! Maybe if your title said “Why TRADITIONAL advertising will fail on the internet,” but trust me, there are plenty of non-traditional advertising agencies willing to “pick up the pieces” and assemble an even more creative method of gaining consumer attention. People don’t go online to look at ads, you’re correct…but they do go online to watch entertaining youtube videos or visit thier favorite blogs. If companies want to advertise on the internet, they will have to find ways to create interesting content to capture attention. Traditional advertising falls away, directed creative content arises!

    • http://www.thescriptszone.com/steel-cage-debate-on-the-future-of-online-advertising-danny-sullivan-vs-eric-clemons/ Steel Cage Debate On The Future Of Online Advertising: Danny Sullivan Vs. Eric Clemons | The Scripts Zone

      [...] note: Last Sunday, we published a guest post by Wharton Professor Eric Clemons on “Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet.” The post questioned a basic assumption that many of us in the tech industry hold near and dear. It [...]

    • http://ruddysgunawan.com/2009/03/29/online-advertising-world-where-its-heading/ Online Advertising World – Where It’s Heading? | Ruddy Setiadi Gunawan

      [...] Actually I don’t want to make a new post today but I just read two very interesting articles from TechCruch where Professor Eric Clemons and his white beard stated something negative about online advertising world: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/22/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ [...]

    • http://ettf.net/archives/12834 Linkdump 41 | ettf.net

      [...] Polarising post by Professor Eric Clemons on TC on why advertising is failing on the internet [...]

    • http://www.socialtrending.com Tom

      I’ve got to agree with all previous comments regarding a switch to more localized web advertisements. I hate getting generic ads that are solely based off keyword’s rather than locality; these ads are useless to me. Give me an ad on something near me and you may find yourself with a customer.

    • http://www.benjaminsdesign.ca/ Steve

      Fantastic article!

      Honestly, its refreshing to have someone really look at the bedrock that is driving the Internet.

      Really interesting points– I hope you’re right about the internet being about freedom, I wonder if thats a little utopian? You’d know better then me, but I still wonder.

      Because if the internet becomes more a force for commerce my guess is that commerce (like it does with everything) will rip the neutrality out of the internet in order to monopolize certain markets.

    • http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2009/03/i-totally-agree-with-clemons Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » I TOTALLY agree with Clemons

      [...] is what I have been saying to my consulting clients – for years.  None of them ever believed me, but now I got a professor [...]

    • http://fcas@billburg,com Frank

      What ads? I use AdBlock plus for Firefox.

    • Rob

      Majority of these comments are obviously the work of a small group of people looking to make Eric Clemons bad. Most of them fall into the category of rubbish and have nothing to do with what Clemons was arguing.

    • http://horaciogaray.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/la-importancia-del-modelo-de-distribucion/ La importancia del modelo de distribución « Horacio Garay

      [...] a andar la tentadora máquina del pago por suscripción en plena reconversión, como Doc Searl y Eric Clemons, no puedo evitar pensar en la caída de la publicidad bajo semejante contexto y cómo siguen [...]

    • http://www.ilretegiornale.it/2009/03/30/internet-sta-distruggendo-la-pubblicita/ Il ReteGiornale – la Tua Voce in Rete» Libertà d’informazione » Internet sta distruggendo la pubblicità?

      [...] di Eric Clemons (da Techcrunch) [...]

    • http://www.thefaredge.com/?p=1632 The Far Edge » Blog Archive » Steel Cage Debate On The Future Of Online Advertising: Danny Sullivan Vs. Eric Clemons

      [...] note: Last Sunday, we published a guest post by Wharton Professor Eric Clemons on “Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet.” The post questioned a basic assumption that many of us in the tech industry hold near and dear. It [...]

    • Diego

      Great article! I was wondering myself how long the ad-revenue model was going to work for and thinking that there must be some other models out there to generate revenue on the net.

      If the BIG media companies don’t wise up, they’ll end up the same way as the music industry (movie and auto ones to follow!).

      Note/question: Regarding the pay per content… won’t the fact that you can get most information for free on the net (i.e.: recommendations, reviews, etc.) create a problem for those companies attempting to monetize this type of content?

    • http://financegeek.com/a-debate-on-the-prospects-for-internet-display-advertising/ Finance Geek » A debate on the prospects for internet display advertising

      [...] debate was kicked off on the bear side by Wharton Professor Eric Clemons, and he summarised his argument like [...]

    • http://www.eggplantia5.com/blog/?p=118 links for 2009-03-30 : Eggplantia5

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    • http://michaelgracie.com/2009/03/30/around-the-world-in-nine-paragraphs-flat-033009/ Around the world in nine paragraphs flat – 03/30/09 | Michael Gracie

      [...] degrees in social networking, as well as those businesses that try hitching a ride based solely on advertising. This is one godawful hype brawl, and plenty of folks are going to get knocked [...]

    • http://themenblog.de/?p=865 Themenblog » Blog Archiv » Unternehmen bewegen sich weg von der klassichen Werbung hin zu Social Media

      [...] erst kürzlich Eric Clemons, Professor für Operations and Information Management, auf TechCrunch. Seine These: The problem is not the medium, the problem is the message, and the fact that it is [...]

    • http://www.talkcontent.com Miles Galliford

      Advertising on the internet is very measurable. With the advertising I do on the web I can measure my cost of sale to the nearest $0.01. As long as this advertising is profitable I will continue to do it. Why would I stop? And as long as I’m happy to pay to advertise there will be a queue of publishers willing to accept my money. So Professor, why will online advertising slow down if there is advertisers willing to pay and publishers willing to display? Who will cause the slowdown? The advertisers won’t if they can get a positive ROI and the publishers won’t because they want the revenue streams.

      To extend this point my question is what are the alternative ways for a product or service provider to get their message out? Will they stop advertising? I don’t think so. Will they go back to the unmeasurable channels that they have been abandoning over the last five years (TV, radio, outdoor and print)? Why would they do that when the internet is growing so fast, they can target their audience and they can measure the results?

      I do think more advertising will move to a paid-for-results or affiliate model. This will mean that only ads that are making money for both the merchant and the website owner will survive. This healthy Darwinian process will result in the best ads appearing on the most appropriate sites. This should be good for everyone.

      So in my humble opinion advertising on the internet will continue to grow, because product and service owners have to get their message out and the internet is the most cost effective and measurable way of doing it.

    • http://www.unix.com Tim Bass

      Hi Jim,

      All I can reply is that “everyone is entitled to their opinion” and “I certainly disagree with yours.”

      Most of our clients are seeing an increase in Internet ad revenue over the current recession, not a decrease.

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    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Melissa_Beck/5503676 Melissa Beck

      In my opinion, it all adds up to being more clever & integrated on the web these days. I love the idea of Social Search – I think that could be huge (but then again, I’m all for Facebook connect so maybe that’s why). And I am a firm believer that the seamless integration with video is the way for advertisers to be seen & heard in an arena where consumers are captivated online & do not mind being exposed to advertisements in exchange for free content. Banners certainly still bring about awareness, but in order to really speak to your audience, I think offering a service & value in some way, shape, or form is the best way to get their attention & truly elicit responses.

      I can’t say I think online advertising will bring down the web or will fail on the web, I think it’s just a matter of navigating through the waters and figuring out best practices for effectiveness. It’s still a relatively new medium, constantly evolving. As long as our strategies & opportunities extend and flow with the online evolution, we will all be fine (and still have paychecks).

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric_Gall/768358779 Eric Gall

      I think one glimmer of hope for advertisers is buried in the notion that while, yes, there is “enough trusted content” on the web, there is also plenty of disinformation floating around. It does give one confidence to see a brand putting its message out there, or “pushing” as the author has it, at the same time I’m hearing about it from friends or seeing references to it on Twitter, etc.
      Once again, folks, marketing ain’t an “all or nothing” world. You use all the weapons (that you can afford to) that are at your disposal depending on the situation.

    • http://www.altamirano.org/advertising/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet-a-techcrunch-article-and-why-it-doesnt-matter Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet (A TechCrunch article) – and why it doesn’t matter | re-engineering antonio

      [...] Management at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania to do a guest post on the future of advertising on the internet. Needless to say, the headline itself  (Why Advertising Is Failing on the Internet) caused an [...]

    • evan

      wow, you are incredibly patronizing

    • http://www.stalkked.com/2009/03/30/online-advertising-pubblicita-online-long-tail-e-cultura-del-free/ Online Advertising: pubblicità online, long tail e cultura del free – Stalkk.ed

      [...] of Operation and Information Management alla Wharton School della University of Pennsylvania, in un articolo pubblicato da TechCrunch: gli utenti Internet/consumatori non vogliono vedere la pubblicità sui siti web, non ne [...]

    • http://duckyluvfish.com WATCHITHERE

      Advertising will not fail, it will evolve as it always does.

      When direct message advertising fails, it will be slipped into the content that you think you want to see.

    • http://kketefia.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/the-future-of-online-advertising/ The Future of Online Advertising « Kirk Ketefian’s Blog

      [...] (UPenn). Clemons started a blogstorm on TechCrunch last weekend when he put up a post titled “Why Advertising is Failing on the Internet.” I had major disagreements with Clemons’ article and posted my response on [...]

    • http://blog.schwarzdesign.de/2009/03/31/unternehmen-bewegen-sich-weg-von-der-klassichen-werbung-hin-zu-social-media/ Unternehmen bewegen sich weg von der klassichen Werbung hin zu Social Media | schwarzdesign blog

      [...] erst kürzlich Eric Clemons, Professor für Operations and Information Management, auf TechCrunch. Seine These: “The problem is not the medium, the problem is the message, and the fact that [...]

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick_Webb/501032598 Rick Webb

      Okay. I see you significantly revised your article in the update, and, really, this is more a problem of an inflammatory headline, but I think a comment from an advertiser is warranted nonetheless. Take a second, look me up. I know what I’m talking about. Honest. I do advertising. On the internet. And it works. And I make money off it. And my clients are happy. And I don’t care two whits about banners, search, or any algorithms.
      Advertising is not failing advertisers, and it’s not failing consumers. It’s failing everyone who expected it to fund the whole of the internet. But advertisers are just like everyone else. Why would we pay someone (websites) for something (messages) we could get for free?
      You’ve got a few fundamental logical problems with your assessment. Let’s dissect a bit.

      First, you say “advertising is failing.” But your argument here is not that it’s not working, but simply that it’s not the web’s economic salvation. You’re conflating the failure of advertising as a means of funding all the fun the internet has with the efficacy of advertising as a means of impacting users’ behavior. They’re different things. It’s doing each of them well to different extents. Just because it’s failing to fund the whole internet doesn’t mean it’s failing to influence consumer’s purchase patterns.

      Secondly, you list the age-old problems with advertising. People don’t like it. They don’t trust it. Whatever. it’s a red herring. It’s always been the case. The internet didn’t change anything about that. Advertising worked before in the face of these obstacles, and it works now in the face of these obstacles. We all like to bitch about advertising. It has challenges. Nonetheless, it still works.

      Next, you’re conflating the need of websites and media properties to make money with the need of advertisers to make ads. Just because there are different ways for sites to make money now means nothing. So what? Fewer sites will run display ads? What does that have to do with the existence of advertising? Will it stop someone needing to market their product just because Facebook found another way to make money?

      And lastly, like everyone in the tech world (though you seem to not be from there), you seem to be under the impression that all advertising online is display ads, text ads, and maybe a rich media unit here or there. But the definition you give is more broad than that. You said it yourself. It’s getting a message in front of people where they’ll see it, in order to influence them. It’s not clicks. It’s not this page or that.

      Here’s the stone-cold fact. Your analysis is outdated. Effective advertisers have already adapted to the years-old “new” reality you outline. It’s more expensive than anyone hoped, it’s less profitable for agencies, and it’s a hell of a lot harder than everyone hoped, but the fact is it works.

    • Google misdirection

      Great to take notice of google’s misdirection. All newbie net users i see click google’s sponsored link. The author has courage to take on “innocent” google.

    • http://martijn.endoria.net/ Martijn Lafeber

      People definitely don’t need advertising, but if a company advertises in a non-annoying manner on a site/video that’s really cool or useful, no one will mind.

      I for example would not mind seeing a small coffee company ad on http://getcoffee.at/

      And even though they don’t even sell it here, I know the name Stride gum because of Matt Harding’s dancing videos.

    • http://blog.alexgriffiths.info/2009/03/jump-or-get-pushed-the-newspaper-industries-problem/ Jump or get pushed – The newspaper industries problem | Alex Griffiths:

      [...] is a dark prediction that advertising online is doomed but I think the key to that article is that there is a limit on how many ad dollars will be spent [...]

    • http://www.gspickles.co.uk Garry Pickles

      I think one of the main reasons for online advertising campaigns failing so much is a lack of education from people buying the campaigns.

      From experience of years of running campaigns it is easy to analyse the reasons why.

      Online advertising does work but only in the right hands with people looking at longterm profits and not flash in the pan profits.

    • http://www.gspickles.co.uk Online Advertising

      I would reccomend Cost per click advertising but banners ads are best left for affiliate campaigns where the risk is low.

    • Rob

      “I warned traditional people-based travel agents about dropping commissions and their eventual bypass through online booking systems and was ridiculed. I warned early investors in online grocery that it would not truly succeed as a mass-market offering for at least a decade and was ridiculed again. I warned investors in specific early online business-to-business exchanges, like Covisint, that sellers would not participate. All of these ridiculed me more politely. But most of them still cannot afford to buy me dinner now.”

      Wow – arrogant too! Nice tone. I like how in your thesis you discount Google as “misdirection” rather than advertising. It doesn’t fit your thesis, so you re-label it?

      I’ve bought stuff as a result of seeing Google Ads and run many profitable (and responsible) Adwords campaigns for clients. I don’t see how you can call it “misdirection” when customers are voting with their wallets that it’s actually much wanted, informative content.

      Interestingly, the bidding system ensures that a high percentage of Google ads are of high quality (if they are not, customers don’t buy and companies can’t afford the ads).

      Your “know it all” tone represents a lot of the reason why academics don’t get a lot of respect from entrepreneurs.

      BTW don’t expect people to be polite when you spew such “high and mighty” bs.

      Cheers,
      Rob

    • http://nostempore.net david hodges

      eric,

      really enjoyed your post. saw a lot of parallels with thoughts i’ve been having about print journalism’s rapid decline. incorporated some of your ideas into my post here: http://www.nostempore.net/?p=83

      best,
      david

    • http://www.tutorial9.net/resources/creative-bookmarks-best-of-march-2009/ Creative Bookmarks: Best of March 2009 – Tutorial9

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    • http://www.bestcashcow.com/mass_market_tech MMT

      This is an interesting article. Thanks for the read.

      While I agree with many of the conclusions I’m not as sanguine about the future of advertising. I think advertising serves an important role and the Internet is only enhancing that importance. I believe in academic speak, advertising helps reduce consumer search costs. Even with the increased power of search engines, it’s often very difficult as a consumer to find what you are looking for online or offline. Often, consumers don’t even know what to look for or exactly what they want. “Pushing” information to consumers via advertising can help reduce that cost.

      That being said, I don’t believe that sites that rely just on advertising will be as successful as those with blended models. As the author points out, the Internet is a different, more interactive medium than newspapers or television and therefore it’s unrealistic to think the same business models will work.

    • http://www.geoffreysblair.com Geoffrey

      Interesting article, antiquated and yet still interesting. If people did not want ads, why would they click on them (not referring to just banner ads) to acquire more information about a product. As humans we long for emotional connections. Did people stop having emotional connections with products and brands? I thought ads helped foster this emotion?

      I agree there is a cornucopia of bad ads online. However, (let me stress that more) however, we should be concentrating more on educating clients. Perhaps there should be less conversation about ads and more conversations on educating clients about the beauty of the digital space and all of its glorious potential. It is often the uneducated client or the client who refuses to be educated on the variety of communications we can offer.

    • http://kpi-agent.com/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet | KPI Agent

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    • Dave B

      Sorry, but Clemons conclusion just does’t hold water. 1) The fact we don’t like or trust ads is old, but hasn’t stopped old media from raking in ad money for generations. 2) Advertising has always been hypercyclic, and Clemons offers no proof that internet ads would be down this year even without a recession. 3) Newspapers are getting killed because they lost classified ads to the internet – Craig’s List costs Bay Area papers $30M+ a year. 4) The internet is so fragmented that ad space sellers lack pricing power, which old media had due to barriers to entry. 5) Ad buyers are lazy or efficient – they still overpay for network TV because they can buy large blocks of eyeballs. Too much work to buy 1000 at a time, at 5,000 websites even at cheaper rates.

    • http://www.aboutconcept.net/?p=222 To internet χτυπάει στα θεμέλια της διαφήμισης — about concept

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    • http://weeklyhomebuyerslist.com/ Melissa

      I would agree that Internet advertising on its own is not a effective method of advertising. I would agree that people do not trust advertising in general, however they tend to trust it less when it exists solely in the virtual realm. The successful online marketing campaigns are those that are back up with other more tangible medias. Now if only every business had the budget to do that!

    • http://skal8.com/2009/04/what-if-everything-on-the-internet-shouldnt-be-free/ What if everything on the internet shouldn’t be free? « Escalate – Marketing to the unreachable

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    • http://makemoneymakedestiny.blogspot.com/ Webmaster

      Yeah 1 you are right bro if you can put your advertisers in innovative manner on your webpage then you can remain unaffected ! Take a look at my site for eg i found drastic improvement in these days !

    • http://insomniactive.com/2009/04/02/why-online-advertising-will-fail/ Why Online Advertising Will Fail « Insomniactive

      [...] Online Advertising Will Fail On TechCrunch, Eric Clemons explains in articulate detail what most of us have been feeling in our bones for some time:  that [...]

    • http://www.keally.org/2009/04/02/who-pays-for-the-internet/ Matt Keally’s Blog » Who pays for the Internet?

      [...] levels seen in “Idiocracy” and methods used in “Minority Report.”  A great argument against internet advertising states that it is “not trusted, not wanted, and not needed.”  While print newspapers [...]

    • http://anstis.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/online/ online. « Where They Are

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    • http://idealfusion.com/2009/04/content-is-the-most-trusted-form-of-advertising/ Content is the Most Trusted Form of Advertising | IdealFusion Consulting

      [...] the precipitous fall of advertising in the mainstream media some are starting to wonder publicly if advertising has once and for all run its course as an effective marketing vehicle. To this I say [...]

    • Luke Winikates

      I appreciate the perspective, but I feel like I’m still left without much in the way of answers.

      I found this more illuminating on a similar subject:
      http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2009/03/newspapers-and-thinking-the-unthinkable/
      http://powazek.com/posts/1889

      I do welcome the idea that there might be a way out of advertising as the only model for success on the internet. I’m not in love with ads, although I do appreciate that they make lots of money for some people.

      Somewhere money has to change hands, and at some point, trying to put it at increasing degrees of removal from the content that costs money to produce and maintain starts to seem ridiculous. Google is the PG&E of the internet and it seems to work that our infrastructure is getting paid for by the dregs of sub-craigslist-quality advertising. It’s like an elaborate subsidy, almost, for our unloved internet. But that’s a slightly crackpot, anti-e-Business perspective.

      As a consumer, I associate ads with mostly negative sensations and I don’t think that that’s a rare perspective. So it’s refreshing to see someone try to imagine something less consciousness-abusing than cheap ads.

      But I’m not persuaded that there’s real evidence of a death of advertising. When, somehow, there’s an easier way to pay for websites. Most websites seem to do best when they’re a free throwaway element of a larger business that earns money a different way—when the site is an advertisement for itself, really.

      The supposed “things that work” are all either: a> the not-worked-out-yet models of paid content. The New York Times is among many people conspicuously not figuring this out right now.
      or
      b> new things that are still advertising. And I’m not sure how my friends being able to find out what hotels I use is *not* an invasion of my privacy.

    • Monica

      Has anyone heard of aardvark.com? Its a social networking search engine (kind of) he briefly mentions this in his article. Basically, you ask a question and based on your social network, you get an answer. The issue of course is not everyone is an early adopter & it works soley based on the strength of your network.

      I am currently pursuing my Bachelors in Advertising at the Academy of Art in San Francisco. What I didn’t see mentioned in this article is, so where does he see the future of advertising? I would really like to hear his thoughts about that.

    • http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/04/03/has-the-internet-made-advertising-obsolete/ Has the Internet Made Advertising Obsolete? | AspiringEconomist.com

      [...] Clemons over at Tech Crunch argues so in this thought-provoking article.  His points [...]

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    • Troy Processor

      If something has utility, customers will happily watch advertising. Tivo has made ads go away on TV, but most people don’t use it, which means advertising can’t be so bad. (This is not due to cost – my last Tivo was $30 second hand and $8/month which are very small costs.)

      If it’s this easy to get customers to watch advertising, then I’d think advertising is here to stay, because there will always be uniquely useful sites out there that can successfully charge for it.

      Sites just need to make themselves uniquely useful. Right now, NetFlix, eBay and TourFilter could all have ads watched by their customers with no problems. But if they were to keep their functionality unchanged for a year, they might no longer be uniquely useful and no longer be able to carry advertising.

      Online advertising can’t charge as much as traditional advertising because its ads are ignored. You watch TV ads, but you ignore web ads. Again, the solution is utility: rather than offering the customer ads, offer tools instead. By making ads useful to a customer they will become even better marketing tools than traditional commercials.

      Overall, there’s no avoiding the internet-caused decline in advertising effectiveness and revenue. The internet has freed customers from having to watch a lot of advertising, so it makes sense that advertising revenue should decline. Focusing on customer utility can help lessen this decline.

    • http://computertaal.info/2009/04/04/waarom-reclame-op-internet-faalt/ Waarom reclame op internet faalt | Computertaal

      [...] vernietigd alle reclame. Het probleem, zo zegt deze professor, is niet het medium, maar wel het feit dat niemand zit te wachten op reclame, dat het niet [...]

    • http://www.stevewoda.com Steve Woda

      Interesting post, and certainly worth thinking about. I am a big fan of Dr. Clemons (I have both studied under and worked with him), and anything he writes about is something worth seriously considering. Personally, I believe the basic premises of his article are completely right on target. Great stuff!

      Steve

    • http://marciikeler.com/2009-04/is-advertising-failing-on-the-internet/ Is Advertising Failing on the Internet? – Marci Ikeler

      [...] been a lot of chatter around this TechCrunch article by Eric Clemens, with some folks up in arms about it’s content. When I actually got around to [...]

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      [...] comes Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet, by Eric Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at Wharton, writing in [...]

    • http://www.lightbulbinteractive.com Dave Culbertson

      I needed a good laugh today and just got it. A great article from an academic who, while clearly being a talented writer, clearly has no real world experience in online advertising.

      In the last ten years, I’ve been on the both the buying and selling side of online advertising – banners, search, AOL “carriage” deals, etc.

      The bottom line: the downfall of most advertising, online or offline, is the quality of the creative and making an effort to reach an audience that finds it relevant. A LOT of online advertising is simply lazy in creative and execution.

      Eric is far from the first to declare the impending death of Internet advertising. Seth Godin declared the impending demise of banner ads in 1998!

    • http://jp.techcrunch.com/archives/20090405google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/ Google、スポンサー付検索訴訟で一敗

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    • http://www.emediaone.net/?p=187 Google Loses A Round In Sponsored Search Litigation

      [...] readers, and indeed some fellow bloggers, have complained that my calling sponsored search misdirection rather than advertising was outrageous, and that they have never heard anyone but me complain about it.  The jury is, [...]

    • http://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ News Is Dying Because Advertising Is Dying – Idea of the Day Blog – NYTimes.com

      [...] | People on the Web neither want, need nor trust advertising, writes Eric Clemons, an information management professor at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton [...]

    • http://granitegeek.org/2009/04/04/would-new-england-be-new-england-without-the-globe/ » Would New England be New England without the Globe? :: Granite Geek :: NashuaTelegraph.com

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    • http://yodspica.eu/yodspica_blog/2009/04/06/google-loses-in-sponsored-search-litigation/ Google Loses In Sponsored Search Litigation | Blog YODspica Ltd

      [...] fellow bloggers, have complained that my calling sponsored search misdirection rather than advertising was outrageous, and that they have never heard anyone but me complain about it.   MediaPost [...]

    • http://smpctryphys.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/extinction-murmerings/ Extinction Murmerings « Simple Country Physicist

      [...] I read another article [Link] by a Wharton academic on why advertising is failing on the net. So much for that WIRED article last [...]

    • http://www.mewrite.com/?p=361 We killed the media? | me write. you read.

      [...] it right. There is still money to be made in marketing products, despite what pixel snorters at TechCrunch might be peddling. By default, marketing follows people. Good marketing engages them there. [...]

    • http://hogrim.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/farvel-reklame-tankevekkende-om-annonsens-d%c3%b8d-i-nett%c3%b8kologien/ Farvel, reklame. Tankevekkende om annonsens død i nettøkologien « Norwegian Affairs

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    • http://www.blog-introduction.fr/jai-des-opinions/les-5-raisons-pour-lesquelles-la-publicite-en-ligne-ne-peut-pas-disparaitre/ Les 5 raisons pour lesquelles la publicité en ligne ne peut pas disparaître… | Introduction – Marketing interactif et créativité

      [...] Après un billet sur les choix à faire en termes de management de la communauté, c’est un billet sur le futur de la publicité en ligne qui me fait réagir. Eric Clemons publie toutes les raisons pour lesquelles selon lui, la [...]

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    • http://monikercreative.com/blog Chris

      I agree with Tim and Robert. I have learned as an advertising art director– there are no sacred cows in this industry (save sarcasm). This post brings up some amazing points and I think we all get it– push is dead. Agencies like AKQA and Crispin Porter get it too and have created amazing online efforts in order to get consumers to participate and connect with their brands and its creation (BK’s subservientchicken.com and sprint’s now page, http://now.sprint.com). While this does somewhat democratize the brand, it still has a voice (and the time and money) to communicate with consumers. What’s important to note, though, that this content, because of its demand, will be included in any natural search and discussed within the larger social community. And, not as annoyance, but as a form of infotainment. Again, making content king and form it’s ambassador.

      Of course, these efforts are just in its infancy and deal more with branding than monetization. Though I’m sure we can figure this out in the next couple of years (chotchkes anyone?:)). Good post.

    • rob earl

      The Professor seems to have a persecution complex. Be that as it may, I think his 4 key observations are essentially of the “yeah, so what?” variety.

      1. People don’t trust ads. Frankly, they never have—not completely. Even kids know when someone is trying to sell them something. But that doesn’t mean ads aren’t useful to us. They are; we just take them with a grain of salt, otherwise they would have disappeared long ago.

      2. People don’t want ads … until they choose to pay attention to them. Which is all it takes. (“Hmmm, is THAT the new Camaro? Nice.)” That sort of selectivity happens all the time. Online and everywhere else.

      3. People don’t need ads … until they decide otherwise (see #2 above).

      4. There is no shortage of places to put ads … Yes, of course, but some places have always been better to put them than others. Those are the places that have always attracted more ads and commanded higher prices.

      The internet is hardly shattering advertising. It’s just given us a lot more places to put it. Advertising is part of our culture. It isn’t going to go away.

    • http://ekbdesigns.com Elizabeth Kaylene

      I would rather see ads than pay for the content.

      I remember being able to go to the movies for $8 at one time. Then the price went up to $8.25, and continued to increase by 25¢ and 50¢ increments. A few weeks ago, I paid $9.75 to see a movie. The soda we bought was about $5. I don’t even want to know how much the popcorn was.

      Not too long ago, I watched commercials for products like Coke and Sprint before my movie. Now, those commercials are gone. I’m pretty sure the higher ticket and concession prices are due to the sudden loss in advertising.

      There is no doubt in my mind that it’s getting harder and harder to fund a website and/or business with advertising. You made a lot of great points to hold up that theory — and I do agree with you for the most part — but your suggestions for alternatives are weak.

      Websites that were born free of charge are so because they have ads on them. The sites I see that do this best are the sites with relevant ads. I don’t want to see ads for a cell phone on a web design tutorials and tips blog. For example, both webdesignerwall.com and tutorial9.net have ads for software, templates, and other things that the core audience — web designers and developers — would be interested in.

      I think the only way that advertising is going to continue to succeed is if it stays relevant to the content of the site. Otherwise, we’re going to see a lot of websites disappear. Not everyone can fork over the cash to read your stuff; they will just go somewhere else where they don’t have to pay.

    • http://ekbdesigns.com Elizabeth Kaylene

      There is a form of web advertising that I think is going to kick butt, and I’ve seen it on MySpace and other big websites: http://perpetualsmile.net/2009/03/18/how-to-boost-your-advertising-sales/

    • http://ekbdesigns.com Elizabeth Kaylene

      I agree with Kent; although some of the author’s main points are valid, he’s exaggerating the problem at hand. We just have to find a better way of doing things.

    • http://ekbdesigns.com Elizabeth Kaylene

      I’m neither angry, nor frightened. Just looking forward to seeing where this is all going to go.

      And just because something is changing, doesn’t mean it’s going to disappear. The internet has been constantly changing since the day it first launched. Has it disappeared yet?

    • http://ekbdesigns.com Elizabeth Kaylene

      I was going to suggest video ads! I’d much rather watch one or two thirty-second ads at the beginning or halfway through my online episode of Burn Notice than sit through an hour of constant interruptions consisting of commercials.

    • http://ekbdesigns.com Elizabeth Kaylene

      Social media is a form of advertising. Google “alternate reality gaming.” I think that’s also in our future.

    • http://ekbdesigns.com Elizabeth Kaylene

      Sometimes it’s nice to see some dude’s theory. It’s what makes the internet so great!

    • http://wk.typepad.com renny

      Amen, Eric. Wholehearted agreement. Badvertising is the boorish guest at the neighborhood BBQ. And noone has to invite them anymore. So let’s get on with it. The problem I’ve always had with “360 marketing” as the multi-channel panacea for what ails advertising in a “microfragmented media world” is this: We must create value for potential customers at our interaction points. Not ads.

    • http://www.deepcurrents.net/?p=113 Deep Currents » Archives » Time to start paying for that lunch, Google News

      [...] again, Internet advertising is dead anyways, according to a much-discussed post on TechCrunch. Perhaps the AP will find itself milking a dead [...]

    • http://www.communiqueprojects.com/?p=48 Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet | Communiqué Projects

      [...] Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet. [...]

    • rerereply

      People are stupid, that’s why advertising will continue to work anyway. He shouldn’t make a generality of its own perception.

    • http://andrewtytla.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/will-online-advertising-fail/ Will Online Advertising Fail? « Marketing Artist

      [...] Information Management and Management at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School, on TechCrunch a couple of weeks ago on how online advertising is [...]

    • http://seedchange.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/supply-and-demand-is-the-advertising-model-failing/ Supply and Demand: Is The Advertising Model Failing? « seed change

      [...] has been a popular topic of debate recently. Over the past several weeks, The Economist and Eric Clemons of Wharton have loudly questioned the long-term viability of advertising as a business model for [...]

    • http://scotttesta.com/2009/04/09/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet « Dr. Scott’s Cool Marketing and Business Blog

      [...] Why Advertising is Failing on the Internet [...]

    • http://extraordinary.thepodcastnetwork.com/2009/04/10/the-extraordinary-everyday-lives-show-062-short-happy-life-of-infinite-advertising-theory/ TPN :: The Extraordinary Everyday Lives Show » Blog Archive » The Extraordinary Everyday Lives Show #062 – Short Happy Life of Infinite Advertising Theory

      [...] in Popup | Download    *Eric Clemons writes on techcrunch and kicks up a storm – rightly so. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/22/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ “Professor of Operations and Information Management at The Wharton School of the University [...]

    • http://dale.bravenewclients.com/2009/hallelujah/ Hallelujah! « The Morning Compute

      [...] FAIL. Advertising and the internet. [...]

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    • http://www.geeklawblog.com Lihsa

      I can’t say I disagree with much of what you say; however, your scope is too narrow when discussing online marketing. Advertising in this day and age must take a more holistic approach.

      See my blog titled “Online Advertising: Caveat Vendor” – http://www.geeklawblog.com/2009/04/online-advertising-caveat-vendor.html

    • http://www.youradvertisingisfailing.com/hello-world/ Welcome to YourAdvertisingIsFailing.com

      [...] These failing ads are not restricted to traditional media but also those found in new media advertising. [...]

    • http://oleks.wordpress.com/2009/04/12/wikipub-social-notes-publishing/ WikiPub – Social Notes & Publishing « Oleks’s Thoughtz

      [...] death of old-school journalism, we do not see it’s rebirth in the social media, since it is so highly cost-inefficient for minor newspapers(Facebook does not make enough money, and Twitter doesn’t make any at [...]

    • http://www.technoconvergingzone.com meanmissy

      yes i definitely agree with you. there are still many people on the internet clicking on ads, and not just the internet newbies, so to speak.

    • http://brandstreet.wordpress.com/ MP

      I agree to that fact that users are not on the net to see ads but to do some work. But thats true for every medium. Internet on the contrary gives the options of clsoing the ad atleast, in case you dont want to see and continue with your work.

      People may not trust ads but they would rather figure it out somehow whats right or wrong. But as a consumer, I DO NEED ADS.

    • http://www.designlessbetter.com/blogless/posts/caveat-to-the-end-of-advertising BlogLESS : Caveat to the End of Advertising

      [...] at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, recently wrote a highly controversial guest post at TechCrunch. It is a wealth of ideas worth considering, but its basic message is this: [...]

    • http://hocuspocus.wordpress.com/2009/04/13/la-publicidad-online-en-tiempos-de-crisis/ La publicidad online en tiempos de crisis « Hocus Pocus

      [...] unos días leí en Techcrunch una entrada muy interesante que se polemizaba acerca del porque la publicidad online va a fracasar. El autor, Eric Clemons, argumenta que por la propia naturaleza de la publicidad unido a un medio [...]

    • Jen

      I don’t really know how anyone can refute your comments. Anyone who doesn’t see the writing on the wall (and account for it in their business plan) is in for it. Users want trustworthy content, and are slowly but surely figuring out how to navigate around commercial messages. The only premise I disagree with is that the only monetization strategy that will work is based on the consumer paying for a service.

    • http://seedchange.wordpress.com dever

      Yes, it’s clear that advertising can’t support everything. It’s basic supply and demand:

      http://seedchange.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/supply-and-demand-is-the-advertising-model-failing/

      But that doesn’t mean that the demand for the ad inventory out there is suddenly going to disappear. Advertisers are still going to push their messages across the internet because of all of the comparitively strong suits of the web.

    • http://kconrails.com Jaime Bellmyer

      I agree online advertising has reached well beyond it’s saturation point. But I think you missed a large, emerging trend.

      Content and virtual communities? You can’t lump all sites into these categories, because you’re missing *services*. Most of what I pay for online are services – as a web developer I use GitHub, Basecamp, web hosting, time tracking software, and more. These are developer-specific, but you get the idea.

      I don’t think the biggest problem is too much online advertising. I thing the problem is too much online content. Offer something of value that somebody will pay for. That somebody very well *could* be an advertiser, if you’ve given *them* enough value. But if somebody isn’t willing to pay, advertising trends aren’t your problem. Your business is.

      Many sites are crumbling because they never really offered enough value to justify themselves. When the economy dried up, the supply of frivolously spent marketing budgets dried up with it. This is a good thing.

    • DW

      Way to many generalizations to be much help. My take is most “brand” oriented advertisers see this as another nail in their coffin. But, most direct marketers who have always engaged in ‘response/interactive” efforts see nothing but opportunity. By his definition of adv, the author tends not to fully understand response marketing.

    • http://lindsayrenwick.com/online-buzz/late-night-fallon/ Jimmy Fallon: Marketing Genius? | Lindsay Renwick

      [...] and money trying to force people to swallow ads that are unwanted, intrusive and irrelevant (nod to Eric Clemons) either through legislation or easily circumvented technical locks, or suck it up and move into the [...]

    • http://www.dasickis.com/blog Praful Mathur

      I posted my response here: http://www.ampidea.com/blog/?p=7

    • http://www.dasickis.com/blog Praful Mathur
    • http://www.designlessbetter.com/blogless/posts/misdirection BlogLESS : Misdirection?

      [...] Monday, I referenced a blog post written by Eric Clemons at TechCrunch. Clemons’ post states that advertising on the internet [...]

    • http://gmediac.com/campanas-web/la-publicidad-en-iternet-y-el-dificil-futuro-que-nos-aguarda/ La publicidad en Iternet y el difícil futuro que nos aguarda : Global Media Comunicaciones S.L

      [...] sostiene el autor de a nuestro entender un muy buen artículo publicado en Tech Crunch, la publicidad en Internet, mejor dicho, los modelos de negocio en Internet basados en publicidad [...]

    • http://www.galatasaray.to Onur Aydın

      Amazing article, congrats!

    • http://danielgoodall.com/2009/03/27/advertising-is-dead/ Advertising is dead? Depends on your definition. « ALL THAT IS GOOD

      [...] March 27, 2009 Some clever people think that advertising isn’t working on the internet. [...]

    • Michael, Chicago, IL

      I think Eric brings up some good questions, but they are not new questions. Advertising is about psychology and creating demand. This is done in different ways, via different mediums. Advertising fails on the web because it is not building interest or awareness–a smart web user has already decided they need something via their search actions/visits. How and when to intertwine your client’s message is more like a good host at a dinner party making introductions than the circus man hollering to ‘step right up’. Your message should be part of the web not the web part of your message.

    • http://linklink.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/links-for-2009-04-20/ links for 2009-04-20 « links and tweets

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    • http://www.turntoblog.com/2009/04/20/web-advertising-vssocial-search/ Web advertising vs.social search | TurnTo Blog

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    • http://drt35.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/extra-post-6-why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/ Extra Post #6 – “Why Advertising is Failing on the Internet” « Telfie’s Blog

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    • http://www.digipendent.com/food-for-thought/why-interrruption-is-a-shitty-business-model/ Digipendent » Blog Archive » Why Interrruption Is A Shitty Business Model

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    • Karl “Jesus” Marx

      “We will see the information we want, when we want it, from sources that we trust more than paid advertising.”

      Of course! Like from bloggers that will eat by hunting animals in the wild. Or maybe sites supported by the Church.

      Thanks. NEXT!

    • http://www.insidefacebook.com/2009/04/27/as-germanys-largest-newspaper-adds-facebook-connect-other-papers-should-follow/ As Germany’s Largest Newspaper Adds Facebook Connect, Other Papers Should Follow

      [...] As print sales plummet, online advertising has failed to make up for the shortfall. In fact, the Web accounts for only 10 percent of the industry’s revenue, the report contended. As a result, newspapers need more dynamic ways to engage with their Web users. They also must learn more about their readers in order to serve up relevant advertising (if that’s the thing that can sustain newspapers and other media companies over the long haul, which some doubt). [...]

    • http://novatvmedia.com Anthony Alexander

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    • http://portal.lacaterinca.com/highland-capital-partners-digital-media-insights-rww-interview/ Highland Capital Partners: Digital Media Insights (RWW Interview) | Techno Portal

      [...] Some recent blog chatter says that online advertising is doomed. The best reasoned case for this is made by Doc Searls (of ClueTrain Manifesto fame), who is touting his radical Vendor Relationship Management (VRM) as an alternative. Searls is an academic (Harvard Berkman Center). Another academic, Eric Clemons, Professor of Operations and Information Management at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, kicked up a storm with his guest post on TechCrunch titled “Why Advertising Is Failing on the Internet.” [...]

    • http://www.axel-springer-akademie.de/blog/2009/04/28/gastblog-geschaftsmodelle-fur-online-journalismus/ jepblog » Blog Archive » GASTBLOG: Geschäftsmodelle für Online-Journalismus

      [...] – Eric Clemons erläutert auf Techcrunch die Tücken von Online-Werbung: Why Advertsing is failing on the Internet. [...]

    • http://marencarina.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/wanted-ads/ Wanted: Ads « Marencarina’s Blog

      [...] 28, 2009 um 2:36 (Giornalismo e nuovi media) Eric Clemons argues in this post that advertising is not a business model that will work for the internet – and I disagree. He sees [...]

    • Mary-Jane McCarthy

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      Thank you and very interested in your reply,

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    • the 3rd world countrymen

      People hate reading loong article online… & remember that no all are internet or language savy…

      Loong description of product will definately lose out cmpetitiveness…… Just post a picture that would explain itself win the war !!!…….

    • http://marencarina.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/168/ Marencarina’s Blog

      [...] Clemons argues in this post that advertising is not a business model that will work for the internet – and I disagree. He sees [...]

    • http://smm-strategist.com/2009/05/socialmedia/change-marketing-why/ Change Marketing – Why? – Social Media Marketing in India

      [...] was a  heated debate on Why Advertising Is Failing on Internet article at TechCrunch” written by Wharton Professor Eric Clemons and also many popular research firms predict that [...]

    • http://www.roughreview.com/2009/04/08/the-net-advertising-crunch/ The Net Advertising Crunch « Rough Review

      [...] began to die a slow, painful and extremely public death. The debate was fired up by this article, “Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet” written by Eric Clemons for Tech Crunch in late March. The post has received an immense influx of [...]

    • http://digitalpr.se/2009/05/04/reklam-pa-natet-kommer-inte-att-fungera/ Reklam på nätet kommer inte att fungera — Niclas Strandh digitalPR, creative planning och sociala mediestrategier

      [...] en typisk akademisk artikel förklarar Eric Clemons med den imposanta titeln “Professor of Operations and Information [...]

    • M1chel

      Hi, I found this article interesting as it raise some good points, but I don’t agree with everything I read.
      The reasons why ads are failing are generally true, but I wouldn’t say that it’s time to replace them. At least I didn’t saw any real alternative among the ones you listed.
      I think advertising will evolve instead of disappear.
      Let’s see:
      you say users don’t trust ads and that’s mostly true, but they may trust the website owner. I’m used to read a lot of webdesign blogs and if I’m looking for an hosting service I’ll probably give a try to the one they are advertising on their successful website.
      Advertising is not always random anymore like it is offering the space to google ads, There are other services helping you to find advertisers but letting you decide what to accept and pubblish. I think this is a great step ahead because it’s in the interest of the blogger or website owner to have some quality ads in order to not disappoint his users. it’s a benefit for all the parts (adv.+pubblisher+users).
      It’s true also that we’re able to look ourselves for info when we need it but there are also so many info that sometimes it’s overwelming. As you say rating website and communities are helping to give simple and trusted advices. However I think ads aren’t that useless. you think of them only on a user perspective while you should also consider the other part, the company that need to inform people they exist and what they offer. there are so many website for every kind of business that becomes vital to stand out from competitors, therefore advertising is needed but must be intended more like branding then a click count. the aim should be to get known more then expect immediately 1000 visits every day. following the same exemple as before I know some hosting providers just because I always see their name on ads. I never clicked on them, but their name stick to my mind and I’ll check them when I’ll be looking for an hosting.
      It is also true that Ads can be disturbing for users. Sometimes is because they use some visual strategies to attract the eye, but most of the time is fault of the web developer and site owner: it’s about him to decide to alow a pop-up ad or to place ads in unconvinient places like in the middle of an article, etc.
      Ads can be a relevant revenue for bloggers and web pubblishers, but they must be educated about placing correctly the ads. if an ad becomes annoying is not useful for anyone because the user won’t click it and he may also decide to stop reading your blog. everybody lose. placing instead the ads on the right column like here on techcrunch let the sponsor visible but it’s the users that decide to look at them or not. A smart strategy to force a little bit the visibility of ads is also to place some navigation on the last right column so that the ads are in the middle between the article and the navigation, but then there are some problems of usability.
      So, I think advertising is serving a different purpose today then it was expected yesterday. like marketing campaign and other communication investiments, companies can’t hope to have a direct revenue from placing a couple of ads. they have to think of it as a long-time investiment. it’s not anymore about getting clicked but getting known. That’s why BuyAndSellAds is successful today, because it helps this selective advertising and pubblishing. Educating bloggers, designers and site owners is also a prerogative of companies in order to make advertising effective, but at the same time it’s in pubblisher interest to learn it to still have revenues and a his website pleseant to read.

      About the solution: I suggested some above, but I would discuss yours coz, if I mostly agree on your analisys of advertisement problems I can’t say I do about your suggestions. I mean, it’s obvious they would all work and they did till now.
      Selling stuff it’s obviously working and is the normal way business are done, but it’s a completely different thing from advertising. If someone is looking for an alternative whatsoever for income on internet then is obviously a good advice, but not everyone has stuff to sell and I find this a little off-topic. while instead is more on-topic and useful the idea to sell virtual stuff on communities sites, but I think today this is old and outfashoned.
      As to getting paid for content or access to communities I have to strongly disagree. the idea is useful, I mean, it’s a logical thinking, but you said it yourself, internet is about freedom, therefore it must provide info for free. this is the revolution it brought. everything we were used to pay for we can now have it for free (talking about information and arts). to make people pay would be a huge step back and I think it wouldn’t work.
      there are however a lot of website providing premium content for money, which is excellent and largerly already in use, but usually it works if anyway the website offers also some good content for free building like that a loyal community.

      in brief my opinion is that advertising must evolve both in conception and application, but it won’t disappear. it simply needs to adapt to a fast shaping medium as internet is.
      The consideration of this article are correct taken separetely, but what mislead the author probably was the perspective, thinking of advertisement only as a web user and not also from the point of view of who is advertising and those who are pubblishing.

      big respect anyway for the interesting article and ideas.

      Michel

    • http://hocteto.com/2009/05/05/el-fin-de-la-publicidad/ el fin de la publicidad | hocteto.com

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    • http://blog.cyberroth.com/2009/03/why-advertising-is-failing/ Article: Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet « Roth’s Reading Room | Content, Concepts, and Consciousness – A Digital Strategist Indulges her Curiosity

      [...] Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet – TechCrunch: Eric Clemons Traditional advertising simply cannot be carried over to the internet…. The net will find monetization models and these will be different from the advertising models used by mass media, just as the models used by mass media were different from the monetization models of theater and sporting events before them. But other models are possible and several suggestions for alternative forms of monetization are offered…. My basic premise is that the internet is not replacing advertising but shattering it, and all the king’s horses, all the king’s men, and all the creative talent of Madison Avenue cannot put it together again. [...]

    • http://www.mac-bargains.com/?p=271 Why we talk about a Twitter acquisition | Mac Bargains

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    • http://freetracking.org/why-we-talk-about-a-twitter-acquisition.html Freetracking.org » Why we talk about a Twitter acquisition

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    • John Howard

      I believe that users are already beginning to recognize that advertising pays the bills, so they will actually patronize the advertisers that sponsor their favorite sites. Publishers and sponsors just need to make a better case for advertising and educate the consumers.

      I know many average users who click through ads when they have some time, just to support their favorite sites. Even when they don’t have time, they are more likely to recognize the brand and appreciate the sponsorship.

      People using ad blockers are selfish and don’t deserve to consume great content. Without advertising, we can expect the quality of content to go down or sites disappear entirely because the creators need to get paid. Don’t you want to support sites like this?

    • John Howard

      Or the publishing business, if your content is ‘free’ i.e. – made possible by sponsors.

    • http://www.daman.com Larry M. Davis, Industrial Continuous Improvement Guy

      I am a potential advertiser on the web and agree completely with Eric’s article. I try to put myself in the shoes of those that would read my advertisements, and believe that they like me are inundated with information (including my cell phone on occasion) that I do not want, care about, or trust. A case in point is that I know that the right hand banner on this web page has various paid promotions, but I have learned to ignor them, and if they are flashing, scrolling, or anything else that is annoying, I leave the site.

    • http://technestreport.com/blog/2009/05/07/abccom-the-purveyor-of-free-online-content-and-pop-ups/ ABC.com – the purveyor of free online content… and pop-ups? | TechNest Report

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    • http://colinliang.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/r-i-p-internet-marketing/ R.I.P. Internet Marketing « Man to Marketer

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    • http://nullrisiko.biz/daniel/2009/05/13/advertising-will-get-disrupted-and-disrupted-and/ Advertising will get disrupted – and disrupted – and.. | null risiko – written by daniel splittgerber

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    • http://www.adexchanger.com/ad-networks/valueclick-display-advertising-vertical-ad-network-q1-200/ Valueclick Display Advertising Revs Showed Q1 Strength With Vertical Network Strategy

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    • http://thisisviolence.net/?p=11 The End of the World. Or Something

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    • http://socialvariance.wordpress.com/2009/05/18/why-we-need-social-search-and-how-to-capitalize-on-it/ Why we need social search and how to capitalize on it « Social Variance

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    • http://blog.hyro.com/?p=206 The Web of Possibilities

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    • Adnon

      I have worked in the online advertising world for Facebook, Yelp, Citysearch, and Google Adwords, and smaller variations for the past two years. I have to admit, getting people to buy virtual space is like getting a dead priest to buy heroin, it just doesn’t work. Often the people selling the most of these “products” are lying through their teeth at some gullible naive SMB owner. I am so over this crap, the web is not sexy anymore, in fact THE WEB IS DEAD

    • http://webbsverige.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/ta-hand-om-din-tid-sas/ Ta hand om din tid (SAS) « Webbsverige

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    • Dougal With Google

      Whoever wrote this doesn’t know anything about Internet adverting… People are activly looking for products online unlike tv radio etc… conversion rate is much higher!

    • http://www.boardofinnovation.com/2009/06/07/timebridge-in-app-commerce-to-challenge-advertising/ The Board Of Innovation » Blog Archive » Timebridge: In-App Commerce to Challenge Advertising

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    • http://societymatters.org/2009/06/01/welcome-to-society-matters/ Welcome to Society Matters

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    • http://www.insiderblogging.net/blog/profitable-blogging/why-advertising-on-the-internet-will-fail Why Advertising On The Internet Will Fail | Insider Blogging Secrets

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    • http://artificialsimplicity.blogspot.com Scott Karambis

      Lots of valid points, but like a few of your respondents above, I’d disagree with your hyperbolic claim of “shattering advertising” but unlike the other respondents, not by offering alternative examples, but by disagreeing with your assumptions. Your argument seems to be based on two models (one of consumer behavior and one of advertising) that are severly limited, if not simply old-fashioned. Your implied consumer above seems to operate as a purely “rational” agent who moves through media like a person always seeking out the most efficient way to satisfy their wants and need, a fiction which all kinds of evidence just doesn’t support. (for one thing, how do you explain the fact that consumers actually search for and watch ad’s on youtube?) It is certainly true that most of us trust our peers more than we trust corporations but that doesn’t mean we don’t do what corporations tell us to do all the time. A similar “rational agent” fiction was was once at the center of classical economics, until behaviorists like Ariely (and Kahneman and Tversky before him) dismantled it. Along with this simplistic model of consumer behavior, your argument is also based on a corresponding limited, functionalist definition of advertising. It’s certainly true that some kinds of advertising try to communicate a rational message about a product’s attributes and benefits, but that’s only one kind of advertising and probably the least effective kind. Most advertising when it works doesn’t operate at the functional level but at the level of emotions or even culture. We intellectually know that most advertising is just projecting a cultural fantasy but that doesn’t mean we aren’t influenced by it. As Zizek once said describing the mechanisms of ideology in another context: “We know it’s not true but we behave as if it is.”

    • http://realtimeshoppingmall.com Richard Ackermann

      I agree with this article, what abounds on the Web today are self serving ads and junk offerings that work like this: you (the sucker) pays a nominal amount of money such as $97 for astounding secrets only the writer or his teams could ever have discovered.

      After you learn that the reason they make gazillions is that suckers like you paid the money to learn how the only way for you to get the money back or even earn a penny is to go around selling the miracle get rich tonight scheme to another sucker.

      Even if the matter advertised is not MLM it ends up being the same thing, go find suckers for us to sell this and earn your fee. See how much Jack and Jill make, look at their car and fab home!

      The best advertised items are work at home deals to get your name on every spam list on the planet. lol. I think it is time to have the advertising claims posted on or about any product be backed up or stiff fines ought to be levied.

      @real_time_llc

    • http://www.digitalmarketing.co.nz Kevin

      Spot on commentary. It’s not just that we don’t want or like online advertising, it can hardly be cost effective for advertisers with a typical 0.1% clickthrough. There’s also plenty of easy ways to filter it out too. I use AdBlock Plus in my Firefox browser. I’m told it’s downloaded 350,000+ times each week.

      With Digital recorders and TiVo helping consumers filtering our TV ad content, soon the only sure way advertisers will be able to get their sales messages out there is through Street Signs, Radio and Print media!

    • http://woeiwong.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/making-money-through-blogging/ Making Money Through Blogging « Issue Publication and Design

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    • http://www.frugalocal.com Frugalocal

      I agree, most all of us are sick to death of having advertisng plastered all over the place. MLS soccer players with xbox 360, Red Bull and Amway on their jerseys shows just how far things have gotten out of hand.

      The problem is there are far too many products and services than there is legitimate demand.

      Effective marketing is simply being in the places people look when in need of your product or service.

      Excellent article!

    • Jonathan Betts

      A very interesting article.

      I would suggest that just because people “don’t trust or don’t want ads” doesn’t make them ineffective.

      All so called rational decisions are actually made by the emotional subconscious, see

      http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2001-11/uow-pde111901.php

      Has the uthor ever made any projections that haven’t come true? Could he give me the lottery numbers for next week please.

    • http://blog.ginsudo.com/2009/06/26/advertising-in-3-e-z-slides/ advertising in 3 E-Z slides « ginsudo

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    • http://blogcaw.com/?p=41 Make money with Blog Caw » Content is the Most Trusted Form of Advertising

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    • http://wordofmouthmedia.blogspot.com/ Peter Holmes

      People still want to buy things and spend money they just wont be sold to. Advertising on the internet is about engaging your audience building trust and relationships and offering value way before you stick a product or link in their face. When they eventually air their problem you offer a solution. There are many ways of finding people with a problem in your business niche, then all you have to do is know how to introduce yourself and your solution without spamming.

    • http://wordofmouthmedia.blogspot.com/ Peter Holmes

      People wont be sold to nowadays. Advertising is about engaging your audience, building trust and offering value way before you stick a product in their face. They have a problem you offer a solution. Know how to introduce yourself and your solution without spamming and you will rise above the crowd . The cream always rises to the top!

    • http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2009/06/29/why-advertising-will-fail-on-the-internet/ Why We Worry » Blog Archive » Why advertising will fail on the Internet | Just beat it

      [...] an article on TechCrunch, Professor Eric Clemons outlines four premises that explain why he thinks, as he puts it, “the internet is not replacing advertising but [...]

    • http://www.whyweworry.com Clint

      I think Clemons gets to the heart of the issue when he points out that we don’t “need” advertising. Review mechanisms provide consumer-generated feedback far superior to anything contained in ads.

      The new system produces a more meritocratic market. If consumer feedback remains prominent, it should lead to better (more desired) products and services from companies. Geico won’t simply be able to woo me with persuasive marketing; more and more, they’ll have to have a solid service.

      I wrote a longer reaction here:
      http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2009/06/29/why-advertising-will-fail-on-the-internet/

    • http://www.internettime.com/2009/07/so-many-thoughts-so-little-time/ So many thoughts, so little time — Internet Time Blog

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    • http://nsahmed.wordpress.com/2009/07/11/evian-youth/ The Evian Live Young Campaign « N, Inc.

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    • http://www.resoluted.com/search_engine_marketing resoluted

      Paid Search Campaigns are certainly on the rise and In that sense I do believe their presence will quickly take over all advertising mediums.

    • http://jonathanhstrauss.com/blog/2009/06/delicious-bookmarks-for-may-28th/ Delicious Bookmarks for May 28th through May 31st | StraussBlog

      [...] Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet – The title of this piece is a bit of a red herring, and some of the arguments may be somewhat inflammatory. But I agree with the underlying premise, which is that the dynamics of the Internet are exposing the inherent flaws in conventional interruption marketing aka advertising. As a result, the author, a Wharton professor, argues online advertising will not be able to provide a broad-based revenue model to support the majority of web companies as commonly expected. He should have stopped there, but then goes on to examine other potential revenue models in a manner that detracts from his core point IMHO. Don’t just sit there, do something! [...]

    • http://www.adwooz.com AdWooz

      Good topic.
      “Consumers don’t trust advertising.”
      They don’t but follow.
      “Consumers do not want to view advertising. ”
      But they view it and happy
      “Consumers do not need advertising”
      They buy what they don’t need but not what they want.
      Let face it: Would you buy 70% off rather than full price? Yes you would, you will. But nobody knows the real price. Cause price is the balance what you want(not need) and what you can afford.
      Advertising is the vehicle of the market. It’s like a sugar in the cup of tee – you don’t see it but can feel it.
      Adwooz you best friend

    • http://www.adollo.com Chris

      I would recommend trying out Adollo.com . They are fairly new but they have a really good platform set up. They are a social advertising network that ranks ads and ad spaces according to how the world uses them. They also don’t do Cost per Click. Instead, they let publishers rent out ad spaces to advertisers. I’ve been using them and I’ve been really impressed. They are also giving out $25 of free credit if you feel like advertising.

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    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chiwuzie_Sunday/1818365785 Chiwuzie Sunday

      I agree with some of the things that were pointed out here.

      It Seems like everyone on the internet is using the ad-supported business model in order to earn revenue. Because Google did it first and did it very well doesn’t mean you can duplicate it a million times on every website and succeed.

      eCommerce will drastically change in the near future. People will realize that FREE + ADs doesn’t always equal Billion$

    • http://scottcom597c.wordpress.com/2009/08/17/online-advertising-is-dead/ Online Advertising is Dead? « Com597c-thru me

      [...] of Operations and Information Management at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania states, “my basic premise,” that the ad industry will create a model that will replace traditional ads [...]

    • Machina6

      Web Advertising is the way of the future. It’s less costly than print or 30 sec tele spots. Audience is more apt to notice the ad because the ads are usually (more often than not) relevant to the search any given person is looking for. “pay-per-click” started the wave with Overture and Google only capitalized on it. Now there’s a new one coming along “pay-per-action” even less costly to the advertiser as I understand it.

    • http://www.adtrackerreviews.com/ Ad Tracking

      I disagree – people are not smart when they are using internet advertising all of the tracking tools are available you just have to learn how to use them. Thats why it is not working.

    • http://iterro.com/blog/?p=4 Iterro Marketing Automation System » Blog Archive » About this Blog

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    • http://iterro.com/blog/?p=73 Iterro Marketing Automation System » Blog Archive

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    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gene_Billadeau/1358525532 Gene Billadeau

      Fascinating article Professor.

      It’s a tough day for me. To come to the realization that after 25 years of being a creative communicator that my vocation is suddenly being swept into the dust bin. It’s especially troubling considering I have two children to put through college soon.

      But then it dawned on me. Why would I want to pay $30-50,000 a year for a B-school degree when the collective knowledge and insight of our civilization is freely had on a glowing screen in front of their noses? In fact, this idea could become my new life’s work. I’ll call it “Crowdsource University”.

      Seriously, why would I send my kid to college? Paging through dated, dog-eared textbooks (horrors!) and yawning through the dusty, tiresome opinions of a singular college professor, when teh Internets can provide an answer to every question culled from the rich diversity of public opinion?

      This observation leads me to one inescapable conclusion: higher education will fail.

      In my mind, there are three problems with college in any form:

      1) Consumers do not trust colleges.
      The questionable agendas of the academic community are troubling to many people in capitalist society. My own research has indicated a strong distrust among college students by anyone over 40, while Tweets from friends are among the most trusted information sources.

      2) Students do not want to go to college.
      If the answers to all life’s questions can be amassed from a few longtail searches or a query to the virtual community, hard possession of knowledge is truly overrated. Performing a job in the new world should be pretty easy with 24/7 access to the best and brightest minds at their Cheetos-stained fingertips. This leaves more time for World of Warcraft.

      3) And mostly, students do not need college.
      My own research suggests the next generation of business leaders should be able to easily navigate the waters of commerce through use of trusted content, such as Wikipedia and the WSJ online edition.

      As for me, I’m quitting my job to build an online store. I’ll be featuring some great virtual campus wear so you can have the sharpest-dressed avatar in the quad.

      Truly, my basic premise is that “teh Internets is not replacing higher education, but shattering it.”

      That’s a pretty solid motto for Crowdsource U. I’m off to find an online Latin translator so I can engrave it in the arch over my virtual campus.

      No insult intended professor. Seriously. Hope you enjoy my theory and I hope to bump into you down at the Government cheese line. Have a great day!

      :D

    • http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=113 McGuire on Media » McGuire’s 2009 Business and Future of Journalism syllabus
    • http://www.iconfinder.net Martin Leblanc

      First of: The definition of advertising is wrong. He writes: “Advertising is using sponsored commercial messages to build a brand …”

      “Build a brand” ? … how about “selling products”? A lot of ecommerces don’t care much about branding – they only care about selling products and shutting down ads which doesn’t have a positive ROI based on direct sales.

      Also I think he’s underestimating the possibilities of online marketing.

      E.g. the premise of “people dont want to view ads” is wrong. If you’re looking for a new camera and you search on Google for it, many are actually looking for the ads because that’s where you can buy it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/William_Luciw/707167764 William Luciw

      Well done Professor Clemons, well done indeed!

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    • http://proteindiscounts.blogspot.com Wayne

      It all depends on the niche you’re in. Some niches are failing and some are soaring.

    • http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=129 McGuire on Media » Trying to find the right tone when "left wing technologists" grab all the attention

      [...] guy, tells us  that in a number of ways. Eric Clemons, another smart guy, says advertising has failed on the Internet and something must be found to replace [...]

    • http://socialmediasoapbox.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/said-the-advertising-to-the-academic-the-rumors-of-my-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/ Said the advertising to the academic, “The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated” « The Social Media Soapbox

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    • matthew

      i agree and dissagree
      i’m like most folks that can’t stand comercials, who try to channel surf only to find that the other program is running a comercial at the same time DOH ! or that flashing add covering what your wanting to read on a web page is getting in the way. I HATE THAT… but
      when i do want to buy where do i go ?
      just like most of you i go onlne to research the product and hey if theres a store in my city that sells what im looking for i would go to that store to buy it would’nt you ? isnt that realy smart of the local business person to make sure his add is in front of me when i’m ready to buy ?
      as long as there are people there will be advertising

    • http://www.themarketingstudent.com/2009/10/06/only-stupid-people-click-internet-ads/ The Marketing Student | Generation Y Marketing Insights » Only Stupid People Click Internet Ads

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    • http://www.moorbankhouse.co.uk B&B Blackpool

      Simply a consequence of the worldwide recession. Companies don’t have as much money in advertising budgets as they once had.

      For those that know what they are doing though with the internet the rewards are there to be had.

    • http://carolyn@kizmetech.com carolyn

      Wow, I agree very much and think it well put. Can’t believe all the snarkiness! If people are interested in a topic, they will read it in depth. Wonderful job. Eric says everything I was thinking, you’re right for sure and we need to be ready for it. Those who don’t take heed will have trouble in the future. I do think it’s a while away and a bit premature for my clients who are making money through advertising to throw this at them. Instead, we will gently introduce other ways to monitize on the web and use it to enhance expertise and reputation on the web…

      Thanks, this was very valuable!

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    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aram_Oganyan/1727147964 Aram Oganyan

      I am not sure if I agree with everything he said, but I don’t think that is too important.

      This is the way I look at it. I have a business, recently got married, bought a little house, got bills, struggling thats for sure. I have to make my business work so I am going to market my products and services the best that I can.

      This is the era of no bs because there is so much of it specially on the web that people are tired of it. I’v got a business strategy, and thats to be honest with my clients, potential clients and eventually Ill come out on top.

      I know advertising, I’v been in advertising my whole life, in fact thats all I know. What I have learned though experience is simple.

      1. Presentation
      2. Honesty
      3. Hard work
      4. Grow with technology

      Universe always has a unique way of balancing itself.

      I care about taking good care of my family so if I hear that some big name newspaper is going out of business I am not going to stop everything that I am doing and drop dead thinking this is the end, we have come to the edge. The reason why these guys are folding is because you have CEO making millions, paying bonuses in 10s of millions. They put on their black suits and white shirts, go to a corner office with a 18 year old secretary that wears a miniskirt for lunch and changes in to more casual in the afternoon, sit around in stupid meeting all day long and just hope that the information that they put on a stack of cheap paper will be read. The reason why they fail is that they did not want to work hard and grow with technology and stay current.

      I am going to tweet the tweet out of my tweeter and blog the blogger out of my blog and facebook the face out of my facebook and hopefully I will find people that are interested in my products and services and they will tell tweet friends and bacebook their family and sooner or later my blog will get a few thousand hits a day.

      http://www.print2promote.com/WP/wordpress/

      Remember! universe will balance itself out.

    • http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/10/23/the-ad-supported-world-ready-or-not-here-it-comes/ The Ad-Supported World: Ready or not, here it comes

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    • http://luminawesity.com Steve Morrow

      And I agree with you. Most of these posters have a blind spot in that they underestimate the sheer number of internet newbies! I live in FL on the west coast and we define the digital divide I think. Mr. Clemmons may be correct and in fact is, I think. He admits that every time predicted a trend he was way out in front of it and so was attacked. It may take another 50 years for all of the newbies and newborns to stop clicking on internet ads

    • http://luminawesity.com Steve Morrow

      Do they they teach spelling at MIT or were you playing video games? Big East Grad

    • http://www.belowthebiz.com/2009/10/28/perche-i-modelli-di-business-centrati-solo-sulladvertising-falliscono-su-internet/ Perchè i modelli di business centrati solo sull’advertising falliscono su internet «

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    • Jay Tierney

      All of you people are kidding, right? Learn your history. Everyone said in the early 60′s that advertising was dead because the youth didn’t like to be influenced and weren’t buying into any of it. How’d that work out? Ridiculous…

    • http://underconstruction Andy

      Hi Mr Clemons,
      I got halfway through your editorial and still don’t know what you’re talking about. I publish Ireland’s biggest selling wedding magazine and I have 98% repeat business from my advertisers!
      I DO NOT BELIEVE THE “WEB” IS A MEDIUM FOR ADVERTISING AS THERE ARE BILLIONS OF SITES.
      THE WAY FORWARD IN ADVERTISING IS “TARGET ADVERTISING” e.g. As I live in Ireland if I was selling a tractor I would advertise in The Farmers Journal. Andy Ring

    • http://www.none.com Jonnathan

      Theres a need for someone to check the advertised products . and rate the quality , post if is a scam , etc etc etc , meaby the same person or company to advertise those products .

    • gfh

      I have never read any ad that pops up. Usually it takes 0,5 seconds to quickly press any visible “X” or “Close” and be back to what I was doing.

      Advertising is binding only if it is original, epic, funny etc. It must be good, so the client says “Wooow.. that was awesome” even if he will never need the product.

      Does google or Youtube actually believe, that someone reads advertizements, that are in text on sides? Maybe some morons really are, but no the average normal person.
      Heck, much better advertising is google selling first finds (about this subject there wer numerous court cases already) rather than stupid plain tect meaningless messages.

      So yes – down with dumb internet advertising. If you actually spend money for that, first learn how to put some effort in it

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    • http://sites.google.com/site/therealsourcesite/ William23

      I been advertising and tested see how stuff worked social networking, make a website, start groups / communitys join exisiting groups/communties based on same business or related too, blogg commenting, myspace , facebook you name it Digg , Stumble Upon, I submit into search engines for free theres a site that can list u on 270 engines at once ive done youtube videos and uploaded advertisements on other video host like blip.tv. Ive Writen Articles on sites like ezzine, wikihow for free, listed on craigslist , and other free classifieds sites… best local ways are google local , yahoo local msn local, word of mouth, flyers, stickers on ur car, business cards and wait for it to pick up eventually it must while your waiting guess what? advertise more. visit my site on tips for advertiseing if u havent heard enough http://sites.google.com/site/therealsourcesite/

    • http://eprofitpros.com Mark Rogers

      WOW! This is one of the most ignorant and misinformed articles I have ever read! First, Internet advertising is one of the most profitable, fastest growing industries in existence. It may be down for one year, but everything was. Let’s look at the four key arguments:
      (1)People don’t trust ads. There is a vast literature to support this. Is it all wrong?
      Depends on the advertiser and the content. Quick example, WalMart is advertising that the average American would save over $1000 per year shopping exclusively at WalMart. I know this to be true because I have shopped WalMart and competitors, WalMart is cheaper, but every once in a while I prefer quality or American manufactured or whatever. But I do trust that WalMart is cheaper.
      (2)People don’t want ads. Again, there is a vast literature to support this. Think about your own behavior, you own channel surfing and fast forwarding and the timing of when you leave the TV to get a snack. Is it during the content or the commercials?
      If I’m in the market to buy a car, and 0% for 72 months just became available on a vehicle I’ve had my eye on, PLEASE TELL ME! If there is an awesome new television series that I would like about to be aired, for example, when V starts back up again, PLEASE TELL ME!
      (3)People don’t need ads. There is a vast amount of trusted content on the net. Again, there is literature on this. But think about how you form your opinion of a product, from online ads or online reviews?
      It’s not a matter of need, it’s want! Businesses need advertising to succeed, not consumers. Consumers just use advertising to become informed of sales or new products – which can save them money! Not a need, but a want.
      (3)There is no shortage of places to put ads. Competition among them will be brutal. Prices will be driven lower and lower, for everyone but Google.
      This just leads to the establishment of market value for advertising. There is no shortage of advertising space, but ads definitely are more effective if placed in the right areas. This is why newspapers are filing – NO RESULTS! Advertisers are willing to pay more for ads that produce customers. The number to watch is not available advertising space or cost per ad, its RETURN ON INVESTMENT, which is by far highest on the internet – but the ads have to include the right content and be placed in the right spot! This is why professional marketers are worth the money if they are good at their job.

    • http://eprofitpros.com Mark Rogers

      Man there is a lot of comments on here. I responded to the four major points but I’ll be surprised if I ever get a reply, there’s like 10 pages of comments that weren’t deleted. I would like to reject the concept of misdirection briefly. Google is not in the business of misdirection. If any company advertises on the #1 spot of Google and customers do not like this company, they will spend A LOT of money for no profits. I know cause I spent over $100,000 advertising on Google between 2007 and 2008. That $100k brought me over a million in sales. Obviously my ads were welcome and well received. If customers did not want what I was selling on those keyword phrases, than I would have lost a lot of money. Plus, Google goes to great lengths to ensure advertisers are only advertising under relevant key phrases to make sure Google end users are getting search results they are looking for. This is shown by their 60% market share and over $500 cost per share. Attacking their credibility on search and advertising demonstrates tremendous ignorance on the subject.

    • http://styleguidance.com Andrew

      i bet most of it is due to simple growth

      If http://styleguidance.com grows to millions of people a day…I’m sure my advertising revenue will grow too :P

    • nivash kumar

      People do not trust ads, this is very true even by metrics, but the reality is IT WORKS! works better than word of mouth in terms of monetary value and volume of reach. So if you start a company, which would you prefer, the one which is more effective or the less effective. Rational minds choose more effective ones.

    • Gary Nugent

      Like any good polemicist, Mr. Clemons seeks to stimulate debate on the subject at hand. It is impossible to do that through some dithering piece of conciliatory codswallop…take the strength of your argument, and amplify it, inserting a few inflammatory phrases. Of course, these phrases are not inflammatory, when taken in context, with reason-interpolated, but they certainly become so, quoted ex vivo.

      The effect here has been achieved – for practical reasons, it has been many months since I’ve been to TechCrunch. This article was a nice step back in.

      I happen to be in the business of online marketing, and helping others do a better job of it. It doesn’t seem terribly relevant to the impact of this article – I see no doom in my future, quite the opposite.

      When I look at the number of people in the business of making money from the internet, there are two words that immediately come to mind; “aggregate,” and “exploit.” Throughout my career in sales and marketing (mostly in tech), I have tried to train my clients, co-workers, employers, to try and identify natural aggregation points for their markets, while casting aside the impulse for attempted exploitation (in favour of a service-first/value-first orientation).

      John Wanamaker, who has been described as the father of modern advertising, has been attributed to say: “Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is, I don’t know which half.” I’m guessing he might be geographically familiar to Mr. Clemons, given that Wanamaker’s store was the first department store opened in Pennsylvania.

      Making a genuine connection between some kind of zeitgeist and some kind of product or service is, more or less, the “Holy Grail” of advertising. Ironically enough, at some point, advertising agencies become engaged in a pseudo-government financial struggle with their clients…spend more…because if you don’t, we’ll never get more for the next one…one would be foolish to expect companies built on these premises to be true leaders. Everybody loves a sycophant, right?

      Is this pseudo-government ethos perhaps less because of a net-benefit to the client, and more because of the agency’s inability to construct a sustainable business model? I say, when you’re looking for the problem, look higher. In his case, he talks about internet advertising failing. In my case, I see the root of the problem being at the top. The agencies themselves, and the clients who follow them.

      The best advertising facilitates a substantive connection between company and customer, organization and stakeholder if you will. Like the best partners can (but don’t always) finish each other’s sentences…good advertising intuits the need and the circumstance, and good advertisers invest in homework to fuel that intuition. While the internet fails, as an advertising medium, substance and value prevail, as they always will. Looking at internet-life (advertising or otherwise) through value-coloured glasses will always help to make that intuition clearer.
      I realize this is a horribly disjointed post, and would that I had time to re-joint it. Not my privilege at the moment. I wanted to pass on my high regard for the author’s words, though.

      One additional point – some of the posters basically accused Mr. Clemons of shilling for Shure. I appreciate the appropriateness of the reference, and I agree it’s wise to be cynical when commercial interests are inferred. Plagued by inferior sound in his Ipod, Mr. Clemons looked for a better way. I’m guessing he did a bit of research, maybe even some speculative listening. I’m guessing he looked online, and consulted with any like-minded consumers – a friend who is an audiophile, an audio-oriented magazine or e-zine, a reviewer’s blog. I may be stretching here, in terms of a set of headphones, but I know my path would have looked like that. He is, intentionally or otherwise, telling us where the money is best-spent. Spend it on the product, spend it on allowing, or even facilitating the creation of communities, wherever they are (follow the aggregation – never forget – you can’t make the market). Don’t un-advertise, but do your best to find me (as a consumer), and I’ll do the rest. I will read, listen, and buy. It seems, indirectly, he is painting a picture that speaks to the health and growth of online advertising – when it is approached with value at heart – when it does finish the sentence for you. I applaud Mr. Clemons for sharing his product name and model number. After all, I’m not interested in Shure headphones, what I’m really interested in is better sound for my Ipod.

      I’ll lift my glass at this point to the failure of online advertising – please keep failing, and fail more, and fail bigger. I will be there with my bucket to scoop up the remains and help the value win the day.

    • Gary Nugent

      Although it is an interesting quote….I think the Wanamaker quote I have in my comment is misplaced! I couldn’t see a way to edit the comment, though…

    • bf

      I always doubt if leaflet handing out at subway entrance is useful, or sticking poster on walls that will be torn down next morning are useful. They are useful! Provided that the cost is low. So Internet advertisement will dimish in importance but will not die, and the main driver is abusive creation of content especially by content farms.

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    • http://www.worldpress.org Teri

      Your title could have read “Why Advertising is Failing.” Gone are the days of lucrative advertising campaigns across all medium – not just the internet. Online, magazine, newspaper, radio and television advertising are all failing. How many more magazines and newspapers will be gone by the time your five year mark rolls around? The “Best” magazines, newspapers, and web sites will succeed. The “Rest” need to worry less about how to increase advertising, and more about how to increase relevancy.

    • Shannon

      good article!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shannon_Hawkins/18606414 Shannon Hawkins

      good article

    • http://myunfolding.com Cole Young

      Eric- Thanks for your insight, and I do agree with you for the most part. Advertising is the catalyst of business though; without advertising revenue newspapers, magazines, television shows, etc. either get cancelled or go bankrupt. There will never be the day where this is not the case. What has happened is that the Internet user has become spoiled. Free information and free, pirated music and films has made all of us ask the question, “why pay for something that I can get for free”. And while consumers do not wish to be bothered by advertisements while browsing the web or watching a television show, companies need to make the consumer aware that their establishment exists in order to stay in business. To combat the issue of annoyance, I’ve been working on an advertising concept called AdboX that I am pairing with my website called MyUnfolding.com (extension of the paper resume). I’d like to hear what you think of the concept, please email me if interested, Cole

      mrcoleyoung@gmail.com

    • http://the-e-ship.blogspot.com Deryl Lampkin

      Eric, Great article and I agree that advertisement is not going to be the savior of every site. We have been paying top dollar for everything in the off-line market. Now we want to go to the other extreme, pay nothing. If everything were to be free to everyone and people ignore and don’t support the advertisers who may be making the freebies free, all the freebies will eventually disappear.

      We are going to have to realize that if we are benefiting from a service, we should be willing to support it in some manner. For example: if a site has 50 million members and each member paid 1 dollar/month, the company would gross 50 million dollars/month. Most users could afford $1/month. Even so, it could be an amount less than that. Everything being totally free to everyone just wont work long term.

    • http://www.cookiecreation.com Bobette Bryan

      Thank you for your informative article. You’ve given me much to think about.

    • Algonquin J Calhoun

      What you spell out is 100% true, it was true 50 years ago when TV started. What people saw on TV was best and people purchased it. People then said the exact same thing about advertisers and the channels that published them.

      The companies that advertised the most won.

      That didn’t make the advertising any less effective.

      What everyone forgets advertising is effective even bad advertising.

      The basic truth will come forward again, those who don’t advertise will fail.

      This dude is stupid. I have never, nor will ever, click on an ad. But they will be better. And I shall step off the web until they die.

    • http://www.globeads.net Muqeet

      I dont agree with your post because the fall in advertising revenue was because of recession not because advertising on internet is a fail.

    • Dave Belt

      Interesting article and debate. Personally, I seriously doubt that advertising on the internet will fail. First, advertisers are not stupid (though some of their ads are), they learn what works and what doesn’t. Second, coporations do not lightly drop billions annually on something that does not bring back results. According to the research I have been doing for a paper on on internet, advertisers are doing just what I stated in my first point. Given the evolution of the internet, data tracking technology, analyzing buying/shopping behaviors, etc, marketers are learning to effectively use the internet and target the customers that are more likely to be interested in whatever product they are selling. In other words, advertising (which, by the way, has been around as long as there has been commerce) is not going to go away on the internet or anywhere else, it will simply evolve to try to meet the needs of the internet users. That being said, regardless of any potential interest I might have in a product, I will not miss advertising popups in any way, shape or form. I prefer my ads to sit quietly on the side and out of my way until such time I decide to check it out (which is very rare).

    • http://www.uga.edu/norml/ Jillian

      7,000 people were murdered by the cartels in ’09 because we kept marijuana illegal. This year they’re on track to kill at least 9,000. Who supports keeping it illegal?

      ..just an example of advertising looking for a home

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    • http://www.queryads.com Roderick Coleman

      I actually agree with you to some extinct. Advertising on the internet will not fail if content search or ad views become smarter. Currently everything is dependent on Google search and what they put in front of us. Many advertisers are succeeding because they have learn that they must build relationships in order to increase sales. The old internet did not require this.

      Advertising in my opinion will not fail, it will just evolve into building relationships first to increase sales.

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    • http://www.infogurushop.com Infogurushop

      The main reason online advertising is FAILING is the method and message of “FREE” equals ZERO. So what is all the fuss about? The millionaire gurus of the Internet have left the world with FREE in exchange for mailing lists that no longer emails allow to receive. So as the Professor has stated – “The Message” was wrong and I believe the “Method” was also wrong. I am one that is against FREE MARKETING because it destroys jobs, industries, families and income. By 2015, Online piracy the FREE BINGING WORLD will cost 1.2 Million jobs and Billions in loss Industry revenue. This culture has to stop! The more you offer, seek, steal and demand things for FREE forget income, sale or reward. If you agree join us on Facebook “WE-DON’T-WORK-FOR-FREE”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000302975314 Nicholas Roberts

      This is my take as an internet marketing student at FullSail University. Author Joshua Porter describes advertising as the following:

      “If you have a relationship with someone, your conversation with them (and their ability to help you) is all the advertising they need” (from designing for the social web).

      As companies are beginning to have real relationships with customers online – interacting, discussing and helping – advertising is just that which closes the gap. Online ads are more and more meant to drive traffic in an attempt to create a relationship in which advertising is not necessary.

      Your best customers don’t need advertising messages, people who need your products and services but don’t know about you need them. That is why there will always be some form of advertising, especially on the Internet where people look to find products and services to serve their needs.

      As far as the advertising industry’s success as a business model, that remains to be seen. However they do it, companies will always reach out to potential new customers.

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    • http://dustinryen.wordpress.com Dustin Ryen

      Advertising is to inform consumers about products or services. To think that because there are lots of consumer reviews and or literature online, that then you don’t need advertising is daft. People like to claim that they don’t need advertising, but it’s a fallacy. How else would all of these consumer reports or reviews know what to talk about? Just because you use a review doesn’t mean that the products included in a review didn’t spark your interest or effect your purchase decision with advertising. It just means you telling yourself that because you read a review that the web ad didn’t matter. Most large companies employ plenty of intelligent marketing campaigns to stimulate brand ambassadors. A lot of that is done through advertising. You can claim you don’t need ads thats your right to claim that. But its not true. Every purchasing decision is effected by advertising and marketing. Don’t kid yourself. I recognize that this theory and post was meant to stimulate a discussion (mission accomplished and my hat off to you on that). But the generic sweeping statements and rebuttals you have included do not prove your point.

      The point I understand you to be making is that the advertising model alone cannot support the web as it was once thought to be able to do. As it has for radio and television. This I do agree with. I think that additional business models are needed in order to be successful for most businesses. The reality is that not many online companies can survive with the current “free” business model where the bill is footed by advertisers. This is being proved currently with the failure of many newspapers (that can also be attributed to how people now digest news though not just the advertising business model) and content providers inability to monetize. Chris Anderson, (Editor of Wired and best selling author of “The Long Tail” and “Free! The future of a Radical Price”) has some interesting thoughts on that matter. I suggest you read some of his books or articles.

      The advertising a company has done for years makes you feel more comfortable with a brand. Their advertising plays a large role in that brand building. I like to think that I am smarter than the next guy, and when I make a decision to buy that it is my own. I generally do this by reading consumer reports and shopping around to feel good about my decision rather than making a impulse buy with a brand I know. Truth is I am effected by marketing as much as the next person. The web captures more and more of our attention. As long as there are eyeballs there will be advertising. You are correct in encouraging businesses to work on new models to survive. But you can’t say that online advertising is unwanted, unnecessary, or done. That is false! The advertising only business model is not working as well as it initially did. But most smart publishers will likely add additional business models as needed. I think that some of the more successful ones will not even need to. They will be some of the few who can survive on ads alone. Probably some of them have already commented above.

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    • http://www.avatarpublicity.com jhon civic

      An incredible site which rises a new concept of originality is avatarpublicity.com advertising. The incredible thing is that the site creators are advertised on a female avatar in 3D. Never seen such a creative idea. It seems that the mill not to never finishing.

    • http://www.footballbb.org dudz

      I disagree !

    • http://www.zermic.com/ Zermic the Frog

      In this ever-changing world of technology, it is quite impossible that we don’t bump into new researches that we are willing to try in order to make Internet advertising even better. Besides, a lot of people will surely be interested to experiment and implement different strategies in order to increase their chances of succeeding into the marketing realm of the Internet.

    • Morgan-Bey

      For the most part I agree with you and perhaps this is the start of a paradigm shift for businesses. Instead of spinning wheels and spending money trying to figure out how to sell your product. Focus on creating the superior product and trust that the people will find it. To quote a great film "If you build it, they will come."

    • http://www.itniche.com/ IT Niche

      You have done a excellent job….amazing post!!!Looking for another one..Best of luck Memphis Web Design

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      You have lost your mind, lost touch with reality, and certainly NO experience in what your spouting off. Pure jibberish!

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      This guy is right!!! You've lost your mind!!

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    • Chris Meagher

      I think you’re right on Eric. And I think the dimishment of advertising on the Net can only be a good thing. It will lead to greater freedom, a beginning to the end of the monopoly of prfit on the Net from such giants as Google. The small artist will be able to have the real potential to make a living from Internet sails. And we will think and act differently when we are online if we have to pay for our navigation and access. The Net will become more like the material world with natural constraints to our choices instead of the insatiable feeding frenzy of searching that we can presently engage in. Limits creating by paying for naviagation and content lead to greater freedom for the individual and humanity as a whole, and a true enriching of the culture of the Net. Kudos to you for seeing the future for others. And yes, there is a bright light in th future of theNet a6ter all.

    • http://www.brandfolium.com Guillaume Dumortier

      I believe that individuals are the new ad unit:
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    • http://www.addynamo.com Sean Riley

      Unfortunately this represents a naive view of the commercial world & the realities we are faced with.

      1. Consumers can now access quality content online, for free.
      2. This comes at a cost – publishers still need to make a living, and right now advertising represents the best way to achieve revenue whilst publishing free content.
      3. The article approaches advertising as arbitrary, intrusive ‘push’ selling at consumers, when in fact it is a lot more intelligent. Ads are more often than not served with contextual relevance to the content, hence, with relevance to the user. Google AdSense and Ad Dynamo are amongst two international offerings that render ads with high degrees of relevance.

      Consumers are not dumb. They know that ‘free’ comes at a price and that price is advertising. Since advertisers enjoy their best ROI from online ads, it’s also fair to say that consumers don’t hate it, but accept it, and from time to time they even engage with the ads in a positive manner.

    • Octavio

      I would like to add something that is causing ads to fail in the internet: malware.

      Before I switched to Firefox, using noscript and adblock, I was constantly bombarded with ads. Finally, somebody uploaded a malicious ad to one of the many websites I surf, and my desktop died. Explorer.exe got corrupted, and I had no way to recover it.

      So yes, take the usual annoyance of most ads, and then add malicious software that gets forcefully loaded into your computer when you get a popup, and you get a really good argument for ad-blocking scripts in your browser.

    • http://www.emailshoppe.com Stephen Tyers

      Today the smart advertisers are getting more specific with targeting their advertisements and the successful ones are using the medium to create a relationship with their prospects and customers. The key word is Relevance. Its hard to do in advertising but careful crafting of key words and encouraging people express their interests through online polls and surveys helps. Trust is built through a relationship, word of mouth or strength of the Brand. Invest in the relationship and all these things will follow.

      Keywords are how I found this article ;)

    • orionsune

      I have a philosophy about advertising. Don’t tell me what I should buy and why. When I am in need of a product or service, trust me, I will do my own research, don’t push it in my face i’ll simply ignore it.

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