Mozilla Extends Lucrative Deal With Google For 3 Years
Jason Kincaid
Aug 28, 2008

Mozilla, the organization behind the popular Firefox web browser, has extended its search deal with Google for another three years. In return for setting Google as the default search engine on Firefox, Google pays Mozilla a substantial sum – in 2006 the total amounted to around $57 million, or 85% of the company’s total revenue. The deal was originally going to expire in 2006, but was later extended to 2008 and will now run through 2011.

The deal will ensure that the Mozilla foundation will be able to continue with the development of Firefox, its mail client Thunderbird, and a number of other applications. From Mozilla CEO John Lilly:

“We’re very, very happy about our relationship with Google and this makes sure that Mozilla will be sustainable and thrive for quite a long time to come”.

Mozilla uses the funds to pay staff, support its bandwidth and hardware infrastructure, and to distribute a number of grants. Because the search giant accounts for 85% of its revenues, Mozilla has become almost totally reliant on Google, something that has apparently concerned a number of members in the open source community. But Mozilla maintains that the two organizations operate independently. From its 2006 Financial FAQ:

“We develop our product and technical direction as part of an open process unrelated to the search relationship with Google. We talk to Google about the parts of the product that offer Google services (i.e., the Firefox Start Page) and the services they provide, like anti-phishing. Otherwise Google does not have any special relationship to Mozilla project activities.”

The Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit organization that owns two taxable companies that earmark all profits for the Foundation’s open source projects. You can see the original announcement at Mozilla Chairperson Mitchell Baker’s blog.

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  • http://www.amitbhawani.com Amit Bhawani

    85% of total revenue is great, but can’t google launch their own browser or directly buy firefox instead of sharing their revenues?

  • http://www.megawattpr.com Tyler Wright

    What does Mozilla do with all that cash money if they’re non-profit??

  • http://www.umapper.com Andrei

    “We’re very, very happy about our relationship with Google and this makes sure that Mozilla will be sustainable and thrive for quite a long time to come”.

    Hmm, that is hard to imagine, especially at around $57 million annual revenue.

  • http://www.valleychai.com spandana

    what is the difference between this arrangement and the ‘switftboat veterans for truth’?

  • http://homebiss.blogspot.com/ Home Biss

    I wonder why Google didn’t come up with their own browser. They are more than capable of creating one. They should seriously consider having one since Microsoft is playing dirty at the moment.

  • http://xrl.us/OMGNewTechNews T3chlusive

    “The deal will ensure that the non-profit Mozilla foundation will be able to continue with the development of Firefox, its mail client Thunderbird, and a number of other applications.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation

    “The Mozilla Corporation (abbreviated MoCo) is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation that coordinates and integrates the development of Internet-related applications such as the Mozilla Firefox web browser and the Mozilla Thunderbird email client ”

    Sombody is really behind the times. Mozilla Firefox is a for profit corporation now. This happened at least 2 years ago.

    “In March 2006, Weblogs, Inc. founder Jason Calacanis reported a rumor on his blog that Mozilla Corporation gained $72M during the previous year, mainly thanks to the Google search box in the Firefox browser.[5] The rumor was later addressed by Christopher Blizzard, a member of the Mozilla board, who wrote on his blog that “it’s not correct, though not off by an order of magnitude”.[6]“

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/ Jason Kincaid

    Yeah, they’re technically a corporation, but not in the sense you’re implying:
    “Any profits made by the Mozilla Corporation will be invested back into the Mozilla project. There will be no shareholders, no stock options will be issued and no dividends will be paid. The Mozilla Corporation will not be floating on the stock market and it will be impossible for any company to take over or buy a stake in the subsidiary.”

    I’ll edit the post for clarity though.

  • J

    I’m a big fan of Mozilla, but one of the reasons they formed MoCo was so they wouldn’t have to disclose how much they’re making off Google. With their market share almost doubling since the last reported numbers, they’re *easily* north of $100M annual revenue by now, probably pushing $200M. And that’s only going to accelerate now that they’re pushing default browser sets in the Firefox 3 installer and just launched their autoupdate from FF2 to FF3 this week.

    If I were them I’d be looking for deals with Yahoo, MSN, and Ask just to diversify their revenue stream a bit.

  • http://www.vinayis.in Vinay

    Feed Them- Grow Them – Acquire Them! :D .. Is this something Google is thinking about?

  • filipe

    What about if they share some of the money width the extensions developers?

    without extensions no way FF will have the actual market share….

  • Skullduggery

    One is a legitimate business partnership, the other a devious campaign of lies and character assassination that skirted the very edge of campaign finance law.

    The fun connection? Google.org loves alternative energy, as does T. Boone Pickens, who helped fund the swifties in 04.

  • http://mylocator.com TruthLocator.com

    insider trading. they should merge with the vatican.

  • http://techpluto.com Prashant

    You need to re-think over your thoughts coz the thing is Mozilla made it Big by itself.It’s Google which is pocketing BIG bucks through Mozilla.I think,this is more of a generous payback to the NGO.
    And yes,acquiring Mozilla won’t really happen as Mozilla is an NGO & wouldn’t sell itself for money.
    If that would have been into Google’s mind,they would have probably acquired Wikipedia already.But that’s not the case.(Wikipedia fetches millions & millions of pageviews every day,means compromises millions of $ just bcoz they are an NGO)
    Got it !

  • http://techpluto.com Prashant

    Hey Tyler,i think,if you get a chance to get to work for Mozilla,you should never go for it coz Mozilla employees work for FREE,isn’t it ?(lol).Also,Mozilla’s servers are homemade so again FREE(lol again)

  • James

    $57 million. The price Google pays to be the default search engine in Firefox.

  • http://techpluto.com Prashant

    Every company has its own expertise.I agree,Google is ubiquitous on internet but still,it will take years of hard efforts for Google to build a path breaking browser which would perform better than Mozilla and every other browser.So better stick with Mozilla.
    Acquisition can’t happen coz it’s an NGO.

  • Peripatetic

    At what point does this cease to be a good deal for Google? Right now, I think they’re happy to pay $50-100M a year to keep the pressure on Microsoft to move the browser forward as a platform. But at some point, especially as Mozilla continues to gain market share and browsers pass a certain capability threshold, Google may feel differently about this arrangement. Even if Firefox were to switch its default search engine to Yahoo or Live, I think a very large percentage of users would quickly switch back to Google. Look at the situation with IE. Even though it has more browser market share than Firefox and it defaults to Live search, this hasn’t translated to a sustained gain in search market share for Live. As Google’s revenue/profit growth slows down, the pressures of having to make their numbers is going to cause them to take a very hard look at all the traffic acquisition payouts, especially those that end in 6 or more zeros. I hope the Mozilla corp. is tucking away a good chunk of that money and planning ahead for the day this search referral gravy train comes to its last stop.

  • http://www.mylifeoftravel.com Calan

    I would’ve thought the figure would be way higher than $57m, considering they have 14% of the browser market, and a much larger percentage of the technical market, who spend an aweful lot of time searching.

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  • http://symbii.com Niraj

    You mean by doing something like this? :

    http://labs.mozilla.com/contests/extendfirefox3/details.php

  • Asa Dotzler

    “I’m a big fan of Mozilla, but one of the reasons they formed MoCo was so they wouldn’t have to disclose how much they’re making off Google.”

    Mozilla has disclosed the exact sum and source of all income every year with it’s tax filing. I’m not sure where you got that wrong idea. Had you actually read the post you’re responding to and followed any of the links, you’d have seen that.

    - A

  • http://www.megawattpr.com Tyler Wright

    Wow that really helpd. Thanks

  • Asa Dotzler

    You can see exactly how much revenue Mozilla is generating, spending, and saving in each of the annual tax reports that Mozilla makes available by its website.

  • Asa Dotzler

    “I would’ve thought the figure would be way higher than $57m, considering they have 14% of the browser market”

    Most estimates put that number closer to 20% of global browser usage.

    But yes, it’s pretty obvious to anyone looking at it even a little bit that Mozilla isn’t trying to maximize revenue here at all. That’s a good thing. While financial sustainability is obviously critical to any group that wants to be around long enough to have an impact, making the Web better takes a lot more (and different) than just money.

    - A

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  • Asa Dotzler

    Jason, you wrote “The Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit organization that owns two for-profit companies that earmark all profits for the Foundation’s open source projects.”

    I think you’re making a great point here by recognizing and explaining to your readers that the Mozilla Corporation serves the Mozilla Foundation public-benefit mission.

    But, I think a more accurate description than “for-profit” is “taxable” since that’s the real distinction between the legal status of the Foundation and the Corporation.

    Mozilla Corporation is not a traditional “for-profit”. It operates as a public-benefit organization that, in fulfillment of it’s (shared with the Mozilla Foundation) public-benefit mission, generates revenues that might not fit the IRS’s requirements for a Charity. Calling it a “for-profit” suggests to a casual reading, incorrectly, that “profit” is a goal — which just isn’t the case.

    The only meaningful distinction between the organizations is that revenues the Foundation generates through its activities are not taxed while revenues that the Corporation generates through its activities are taxed. The motivation and the operation of both entities is to benefit the world by creating public goods.

    That’s not “for-profit” as most people understand “for-profit.”

    - A

  • Asa Dotzler

    Tyler, you asked, “What does Mozilla do with all that cash money if they’re non-profit??”

    The answer is right there in Jason’s article. “Mozilla uses the funds to pay staff, support its bandwidth and hardware infrastructure, and to distribute a number of grants.”

    The only thing I’d add is “and saves/invests the remainder.”

    - A

  • Asa Dotzler

    Jason, sorry, I missed this comment before I replied to you. You’re absolutely correct and though I missed the text before the clarification, you pretty much hit the nail on the head. Mozilla isn’t a traditional organization in any way shape or form :-)

    - A

  • Asa Dotzler

    Oops, didn’t finish my reply.

    “If I were them I’d be looking for deals with Yahoo, MSN, and Ask just to diversify their revenue stream a bit.”

    Some revenue diversity is obviously good but the priority here is not revenue but the right features for our users. Are you suggesting that Mozilla provide its users with a less good search experience in order to diversify or maximize revenue? That’s not gonna happen.

    If you’re suggesting juts more deals, those are and have been in place for years. Google is the primary and default search in Firefox (because we believe it’s the best experience for our users) and so it’s used by a lot more people than the other included search services but Mozilla does include other search services and has financial relationships with other search providers.

    - A

  • Mahony

    I guess everyone included in their standard search doc (eBay.com, Amazon.com) and bookmarks pays their share to be included, just look at the referring tracking codes which are part of the URLs once you land on their website. But never mind – at least Firefox gets even better with each release. Can’t wait for version 4.0

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  • http://www.techcrunch.com/ Jason Kincaid

    Good point, I was worried that people might wind up getting the wrong impression. I’ve changed it to “taxable”.

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  • http://fundubytes.blogspot.com Rupesh

    Can you tell me how much Google AdSense contributes for the total downloads of Firefox
    I am asking this because, soon Google AdSense will shut off referral ads means no more Firefox download…
    How will this affect the market share of Firefox..??
    I need these information for a post on my blog.

  • Asa Dotzler

    Rupesh, Google’s Firefox referral program through AdSense has not been a significant contributor to Firefox’s growing market share.

    As an explanation of part of why that’s true, I can tell you that in the last month alone (not counting updates) Firefox 3 has averaged about a million downloads a day from the Mozilla websites.

    No other source of Firefox downloads come close to that. It’s organic, word of mouth driven downloading that’s put Firefox where it is today.

    - A

  • Greg Andrew

    Actually, it’s almost certainly a better deal for Google now. Originally, Google was probably supporting Mozilla at least partly because it wanted to ensure competition for Microsoft in the browser market (and a competitor that would support open standards). Now that Firefox has a much larger market share, Google’s money results in a lot more Google searches. Yes, many people would use Google anyway, but it certainly not all Firefox users would. And making a search engine easily accessible in the browser leads to more use of search overall. Google has many deals to be the default search provider with pc manufacturers and cell phone operators; this can now be considered just another one of those.

  • http://www.dangrossman.info Dan Grossman

    What would be the benefit worth creating their own browser? There isn’t any demand for a new browser, and Google’s already built into the search boxes of them all.

  • http://www.dangrossman.info Dan Grossman

    Google is only paying a percentage of the per-click fees they’re charging advertisers for searches made through the browser. There’s no reason for Google to ever cancel the deal entirely.

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  • http://www.altek.ca Altek

    Yet, Google’s adsense team abandons paying $1 per firefox install… having everyone switch over to pushing Yahoo items. Good job.

  • http://www.altek.ca Altek

    Didn’t read all the comments, regardless of it not being a significant user source, it is a very cheap way for Google to get even more users, why abandon a income source if you don’t have to?

  • calm down

    Geez, I appreciate mozilla a heluva lot and agree with most of what you’ve written, but you’re like a bull dog on this post. Let it rest, no offense.

  • http://me2day.net/hmlwh/2008/08/29#08:35:56 hmlwh’s me2DAY

    LeeWonHee의 생각…

    모질라 Firefox에 대한 구글 vs 네이버 대응 전략의 차이에서 바로 글로벌 기업이 가야하는 길이 무엇인지 보인다….

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  • http://www.adelph.us william

    So I’m a user of firefox. I download it and I open it up for the first time. I go to the default firefox page with the google search bar. I use the search and firefox is paid. All of this and no one explicitly informed me that I have a choice of what my default page will be, our what my default search engine will be, or what my default, news reader will be. And no one informed me these defaults would be google or that my using them would generate revenue for both google and Mozilla.

    I thought that non profits were supposed to be transparent ?

  • http://me2day.net/metavital/2008/08/29#16:01:00 metavital’s me2DAY

    meta의 생각…

    모질라가 Google을 파이어폭스의 기본 검색 엔진으로 지정하는 계약을 2011년까지 연장했다….

  • http://bryce.insanesparrow.com Bryce

    Good on Mozilla! It’s great to see people being rewarded for creating a great product!

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  • http://www.valleychai.com spandana

    if google makes a browser and ships it with google search as default, its not cool. similar to bush bashing kerry directly.

    however, if you fund firefox, and have it ship with google as default, it’s totally cool, similar to bush backers funding the ‘switftboat veterans for truth’.

    quite simply, outsource the dirty work. and yeah, looking at the contribution of google’s business to mozilla, you can safely say google does fund mozilla.

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  • http://www.velvetblues.com Shirley

    I am not concerned about the relationship. Google regularly encourages the growth of open source projects. I doubt they’ll try to use their influence to sway the direction of it. And given that Google is already my preferred search engine, why shouldn’t everyone use it?! ;-)

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    [...] şirket daha geçen hafta Firefox‘un geliştiricisi Mozilla ile arama üzerine kurulu anlaşmasını uzatmış ve kâr amacı olmayan Mozilla‘nın %85 gelirini karşılayan bu vazgeçilmez katkıyı [...]

  • http://www.itwriting.com/blog/849-the-new-google-chrome-browser-a-bad-day-for-firefox.html Tim Anderson’s ITWriting – Tech writing blog » The new Google Chrome browser: a bad day for FireFox

    [...] Google is using some proven technology in the form of the Webkit rendering component (as used in Apple’s Safari). I imagine it can do a decent job. But why? From Google’s perspective, the browser market was shaping up nicely already. Microsoft’s IE has a still large but declining market share; Mozilla FireFox is growing, has a vibrant community, and relies on Google for the bulk of its income in return for making it  the default search engine – a deal which has just been extended for three years. [...]

  • http://yonkeltron.com/2008/09/01/google-releases-new-chrome-web-browser/ yonkeltron » Google releases new Chrome web browser

    [...] after Google agreed to continue funding the overwhelming majority of Mozilla’s operating budget for another three years, they decided to be absolutely crazy [...]

  • http://www.planetmy.com Planet Malaysia

    Weird. Google will launch their own open source browser and they still support Mozilla. What are they try to archive?

  • http://blog.universejdj.com/2008/09/02/mozilla-extends-lucrative-deal-with-google-for-3-years/ Mozilla Extends Lucrative Deal With Google For 3 Years | Universe’s Tech Blog

    [...] was originally going to expire in 2006, but was later extended to 2008 and will run through 2011.read more | digg story This post has been read 1 [...]

  • http://blog.MikeRandrup.com/2008/09/google-launches-a-new-web-browser-today/ Mike Randrup’s Blog » Blog Archive » Google Launches a New Web Browser Today?!?

    [...] implemented a new strategy for releasing a web browser? And also, how does this affect/relate to Google’s relationship to Mozilla and FireFox [...]

  • kbrosnan

    Asa is a long term employee of the Mozilla Foundation/Corporation. He is doing his job, he is providing insight as opposed to speculation. The Google contract is one of the most misunderstood facets of Mozilla.

  • http://www.clickforclients.com/blog/2008/09/googles-new-chrome-browser-comic-book-annoucement/ Google’s New Browser Get Comic Introduction | Small Business Internet Marketing Blog

    [...] This is a straight shot over the bow of Microsoft, which has tightly integrated its Live Search offering into its dominant Internet Explorer browser (and which, surprise, is in turn tightly integrated into Windows). It also makes for an awkward relationship with Mozilla, whose Firefox browser Google basically funds. [...]

  • http://okubax.co.uk/blog/?p=223 Mozilla Extends Lucrative Deal With Google For 3 Years | okubax.co.uk

    [...] was originally going to expire in 2006, but was later extended to 2008 and will run through 2011.read more | digg [...]

  • http://www.lcmainsurance.com Josh

    This seems like a great relationship for the Mozilla group. I’m sure it would not have been a good if this relationship was lost. I just hope that they find other means of of monetizing their products that does not become intrusive or obnoxious.

  • http://www.batuhanbulak.com/google%e2%80%99in-web-tarayicisi-google-chrome.html Google’ın web tarayıcısı: Google Chrome | Batuhan Bulak

    [...] Çünkü şirket daha geçen hafta Firefox‘un geliştiricisi Mozilla ile arama üzerine kurulu anlaşmasını uzatmış ve kâr amacı olmayan Mozilla‘nın %85 gelirini karşılayan bu vazgeçilmez katkıyı şirkete [...]

  • http://reiffix.de/blog/netzwelt/googles-eigener-browser-chrome-firefox-ade/ » Googles eigener Browser Chrome – Firefox ade?

    [...] P.S. Danke an Konrad, der mich gestern aufklärte, dass Google dennoch einen Deal mit Firefox über 60 Million $ pro Jahr hat.   Weitere Artikel hierzu:  Google Chrome: Google kündigt Browser an Google [...]

  • http://jimbarraud.com/2008/09/02/google-chrome-the-fabled-google-os/ Jim Barraud » Google Chrome : The Fabled Google OS?

    [...] own internet browser has been around for quite a while, but it’s mostly been based on Google’s relationship with Mozilla. It’s been thought that the fabled Google Browser would either be based of the Gecko engine [...]

  • http://www.mondaynay.com/2008/09/google-chrome-beta-web-browser/ Google Chrome Beta Web Browser | MonDayNay

    [...] Arama kutucuğu ile ilgili anlaşmasını 3 yıl daha yenilediğinden bahsediliyor. (Ilgili Yazı) Mozilla‘ya bu kadar önem veren Google‘ın Yaptığı bu Chrome tanıtımı [...]

  • http://www.elvoldelhomeocell.net/blog/archives/271 El vol de l’home ocell » Punyalades de regal

    [...] dia 28 d’Agost es feia públic que Google extendria el seu finançament a la Mozilla Foundation durant tres anys més i avui ens trobem que el gegant llençarà inminentment un nou navegador per [...]

  • http://www.bozo.gen.tr/index.php/google-in-web-tarayicisi-google-chrome/ Google’ın web tarayıcısı: Google Chrome

    [...] Çünkü şirket daha geçen hafta Firefox‘un geliştiricisi Mozilla ile arama üzerine kurulu anlaşmasını uzatmış ve kâr amacı olmayan Mozilla‘nın %85 gelirini karşılayan bu vazgeçilmez katkıyı şirkete [...]

  • http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/off-topic/16678-googles-web-browser-chrome-2.html#post371152 Google’s Web Browser "Chrome" – Page 2 – SLUniverse Forums

    [...] makes Google the default search engine in Firefox until 2011 (it was due to run out this year) Mozilla Extends Lucrative Deal With Google For 3 Years __________________ Vanguard of the LolCatz Revolution This Post was financed by The National [...]

  • http://www.webguncel.net/googledan-microsofta-rakip-web-tarayicisi-google-chrome.html Google Chrome | WEBGUNCEL.NET

    [...] Çünkü şirket daha geçen hafta Firefox‘un geliştiricisi Mozilla ile arama üzerine kurulu anlaşmasını uzatmış ve kâr amacı olmayan Mozilla‘nın %85 gelirini karşılayan bu vazgeçilmez katkıyı şirkete [...]

  • http://phrequency.net/?p=70 phrequency.net » Blog Archive » Google OS… Er, Browser

    [...] off. If anything, I’d say at first glance that this is some sort of a crotch shot to Mozilla (with the extended partnership and the perhaps long sought solution to Firefox’s memory [...]

  • http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/09/03/how-badly-will-chrome-hurt-firefox/ How Badly Will Chrome Hurt Firefox? | Mark Evans

    [...] for more than 80% of Mozilla’s $66.8-million revenue in 2006. While the deal was recently extended to 2011, Firefox could get less revenue if a lot of Firefox users moved to [...]

  • http://waycoolmodz.com/first-look-google-chrome-browser-review/ Waycool Modz » Blog Archive » First Look: Google Chrome Browser Review

    [...] Google has now entered the browser market arena. This comes just days after having received news that Mozilla agreed to a 3 year search deal extension with Google. I’m a Mozilla Firefox user [...]

  • http://www.aisopis.de/blog/index.php/2008/09/03/google-chrome-erste-eindrucke/ aisopis’ blog » Blog Archive » Google Chrome: erste Eindrücke

    [...] der Google-Browser nicht die Welt erobern. Aber vielleicht, wenn in 3 Jahren die Mozilla Foundation 85% seiner finanziellen Unterstützung verlieren könnte… Wir werden [...]

  • http://www.fish8me.com/2008/09/03/the-goog-strikes-again/ fish8me.com » the Goog strikes again

    [...] google products only get better with time, and i’m sure they’ll be putting some effort into this (even though they are funding firefox). [...]

  • http://macuser.me/blog/will-google-s-chrome-spell-firefox-s-death Will Google’s Chrome spell Firefox’s death? – MacUser.me

    [...] Mozilla’s relationship with Google. Just last week, before all the shine of Chrome was announced, Mozilla extended its search deal with Google for another 3 years. With most of Mozilla’s money coming from Google ($57 Million for 2006), it’s [...]

  • http://jmcane.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/nuevo-round-en-la-lucha-de-los-navegadores/ Nuevo round en la lucha de los navegadores « Buscad leyendo y hallareís meditando

    [...] navegador de Google, bautizado Chrome. Esto representa sobre todo para Microsoft (Google tiene un acuerdo con Mozilla) una nueva amenaza en el cada vez más competitivo mercado de los navegadores. La [...]

  • http://venturebeat.com/2008/09/03/good-news-mozillas-camino-project-lead-is-hard-at-work-on-google-chrome-for-mac/ Good news: Mozilla’s Camino Project lead is hard at work on Google Chrome for Mac » VentureBeat

    [...] This will however, likely raise more questions about Mozilla’s and Google’s relationship. Google supports Mozilla financially in exchange for benefits like Google search residing on Firefox’s default homepage. The release of Chrome raised questions about just how much Google would continue to support Mozilla, though the two sides did just recently renew their pact for 3 years. [...]

  • http://hocteto.com/2008/09/03/google-chrome/ hocteto.com » Blog Archive » google chrome

    [...] google chrome. Tras muchos años especulando con el algunos llamaban gbrowser, parecía que google se conformaba con financiar firefox hasta el 2011 y asegurar su continuidad. Pero al final google ha entrado en la guerra de los navegadores que [...]

  • http://bloguidificador.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/rip-mozilla-foundation/ RIP Mozilla Foundation? « Bloguidificador

    [...] o TechCrunch a Mozilla Foundation renovou recentemente o seu contrato com o Google. Em troca do apoio ao Google [...]

  • http://planoa.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/rip-mozilla-foundation/ RIP Mozilla Foundation? « Plano “A”

    [...] o TechCrunch a Mozilla Foundation renovou recentemente o seu contrato com o Google. Em troca do apoio ao [...]

  • Nada

    SO funny to read all of these comments after knowing about Google Chrome… :)

    RIP Mozilla Foundation…

  • http://kecebongsoft.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/review-google-chrome/ Review Google Chrome « ~>

    [...] (Mozilla)? Well, saya nggak bisa bilang itu sepenuhnya benar. Karena Google dan Mozilla sendiri memperpanjang kontrak mereka hingga 2011. Dan Mozilla juga tidak cemas dengan keberadaan Chrome sebagai pesaing Firefox. [...]

  • http://kingofgng.com/2008/09/07/google-chrome-scatena-la-terza-grande-guerra-dei-browser/ Google Chrome scatena la Terza Grande Guerra dei Browser | Sir Arthur’s Den

    [...] a 57 milioni di dollari vale a dire l’85% delle entrate della società. L’accordo è stato rinnovato fino al 2011 alcuni giorni prima del lancio di Chrome, ma è indubbio che alla sua scadenza il [...]

  • http://kingofgng.com/eng/2008/09/07/google-chrome-starts-the-third-great-browser-war/ Google Chrome starts the Third Great Browser War | Sir Arthur’s Den

    [...] of a sum amounting, in 2006, to 57 millions of dollars that is 85% of company incomes. The deal has been renewed till 2011 some days before the Chrome launch, but it’s certain that with its expiration [...]

  • http://www.binarios.com.ar/2008/09/09/binarios-volvio-y/ Binarios volvió!!!… y?… – Binarios

    [...] (a ver si todavía nos esta vigilando -más de lo que ya lo hace- ) google, justo después de renovar votos con mozilla, saca a relucir su navegador de internet: Google Chrome. Sería absurdo hacer alguna reseña sobre [...]

  • http://www.hot-hatches.co.uk/ hot hatches

    good news

  • http://300.com.cn zing

    yes!good news

  • http://www.unsworthsugden.co.uk Paul web designer

    It’s funny. I am from the UK and most of the people I know haven’t even heard of Mozilla. I on the other hand think that Firefox is the best browser by far. Great news on the Google deal!

  • http://telenekos.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/asi-se-financian-los-grandes-proyectos-del-software-libre/ Así se financian los grandes proyectos del software libre « teleñekos

    [...] En el 2006 gestionó unos ingresos de 66,8 millones de dólares, una pequeña parte de los cuales proceden de donaciones anónimas de particulares. Aún así, el gran grueso proviene de Google, que con casi 60 millones de dólares anuales, es el gran mecenas de esta organización. El acuerdo de patrocinio actual se extenderá hasta, al menos, el 2011. [...]

  • http://www.toolness.com/wp/?p=337 The SF Green Festival and >play at Toolness

    [...] ultimately resulted in the question of how Mozilla makes money, to which I gave them the standard profit-sharing response. Sometimes this segued into an interesting conversation about what the Mozilla Foundation was, [...]

  • http://pillateunlinux.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/%c2%bfde-donde-sale-la-pasta-en-el-software-libre/ ¿De donde sale la “pasta” en el software libre? « Pillateunlinux

    [...] En el 2006 gestionó unos ingresos de 66,8 millones de dólares, una pequeña parte de los cuales proceden de donaciones anónimas de particulares. Aún así, el gran grueso proviene de Google, que con casi 60 millones de dólares anuales, es el gran mecenas de esta organización. El acuerdo de patrocinio actual se extenderá hasta, al menos, el 2011. [...]

  • http://www.americannewsworld.net/tech/google-makes-up-88-percent-of-mozilla%e2%80%99s-revenues-threatens-its-non-profit-status Google Makes Up 88 Percent Of Mozilla’s Revenues, Threatens Its Non-Profit Status | American News World – News And Technology

    [...] for 85 percent. And that proportion may continue to grow over the next three years, as Google just extended its contract with [...]

  • http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/12/02/the-godzilla-trademark-power-hour/ Blog@Newsarama » Blog Archive » The Godzilla Trademark Power Hour

    [...] Foundation has generated considerable revenue, including millions of dollars in profit, from its search deal with Google. In fact, for the past several years the Foundation has delegated its major commercial operations [...]

  • http://www.Cikolata.Net Sohbet

    Thanks mucx

  • http://kampanyedamaipemilu.indonesia2009.info/ kampanye damai

    Now google already launch their own browser. Is the deal still continue?

  • http://www.geniosity.co.za/musings/google/google-chrome-googles-free-web-browser/ geniosity » Google Chrome – Google’s Free Web Browser

    [...] guess it’s a good thing that Google and Mozilla signed their ad deal recently, renewing the deal until 2011, because with Google’s brand behind them, this will DEFINITELY give FireFox and hopefully [...]

  • http://linux.kalvinman.com/como-se-financian-los-grandes-proyectos-del-software-libre.html Linux » » Cómo se financian los grandes proyectos del software libre

    [...] En el 2006 gestionó unos ingresos de 66,8 millones de dólares, una pequeña parte de los cuales proceden de donaciones anónimas de particulares. Aún así, el gran grueso proviene de Google, que con casi 60 millones de dólares anuales, es el gran mecenas de esta organización. El acuerdo de patrocinio actual se extenderá hasta, al menos, el 2011. [...]

  • http://www.tecnoguide.net/2009/04/asiacute-se-financian-los-grandes-proyectos-del-software-libre.html Así se financian los grandes proyectos del software libre | TECNOGUIDE.NET

    [...] · MOZILLA (Firefox, Thunderbird, Camino, etc) La gestión de los ingresos que generan los programas desarrollados por la Mozilla Foundation, con el navegador Firefox y el cliente de correo electrónico Thunderbird a la cabeza, corre a cargo de la Mozilla Corporation, una empresa filial que se creó el 3 de agosto del 2005 y que en la actualidad cuenta con más de 100 empleados. En el 2006 gestionó unos ingresos de 66,8 millones de dólares, una pequeña parte de los cuales proceden de donaciones anónimas de particulares. Aún así, el gran grueso proviene de Google, que con casi 60 millones de dólares anuales, es el gran mecenas de esta organización. El acuerdo de patrocinio actual se extenderá hasta, al menos, el 2011. [...]

  • http://jonathanstray.com/nobody-actually-likes-advertising Jonathan Stray » Nobody Actually Likes Advertising

    [...] nod your head to the stock price. You tell me that open source is ridiculous, because actually  Google funds Firefox and Ubuntu funds Linux. And Web 2.0 is for connecting with the people you want money from, and [...]

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/30/google-becomes-default-location-provider-for-firefox/ Google Becomes Default Location Provider For Firefox

    [...] advertising to businesses. As with Google’s search deal with Mozilla, which was recently extended through 2011, I suspect Google is paying a pretty penny for the right to be the browser’s [...]

  • http://www.stoth.com/2009/04/30/google-becomes-default-location-provider-for-firefox/ Google Becomes Default Location Provider For Firefox | Stoth

    [...] advertising to businesses. As with Google’s search deal with Mozilla, which was recently extended through 2011, I suspect Google is paying a pretty penny for the right to be the browser’s [...]

  • http://www.thefaredge.com/?p=2982 The Far Edge » Blog Archive » Google Becomes Default Location Provider For Firefox

    [...] advertising to businesses. As with Google’s search deal with Mozilla, which was recently extended through 2011, I suspect Google is paying a pretty penny for the right to be the browser’s default [...]

  • http://www.aolinex.com/2008/11/16/como-se-financian-las-empresas-de-software-libre/ El Blog de aOliNex! » Blog Archive » COMO SE FINANCIAN LAS EMPRESAS DE SOFTWARE LIBRE

    [...] En el 2006 gestionó unos ingresos de 66,8 millones de dólares, una pequeña parte de los cuales proceden de donaciones anónimas de particulares. Aún así, el gran grueso proviene de Google, que con casi 60 millones de dólares anuales, es el gran mecenas de esta organización. El acuerdo de patrocinio actual se extenderá hasta, al menos, el 2011. [...]

  • http://rapid-dev.net/2009/06/could-anti-google-choices-re-energize-yahoo/ Could Anti-Google Choices Re-Energize Yahoo? | rapid-DEV.net

    [...] that Google’s search distribution deal with Firefox expires in November 2011. It’s a safe assumption that Google won’t renew it due to their increasing support of [...]

  • http://wolfram.org/nyc/business/adblocking-plugin-for-firefox/ The New York City Dispatch » Adblocking plugin for Firefox

    [...] developing their own operating system. Google’s advert revenue is in the billions of dollars. Google already pays Firefox millions of dollars put them as the default search engine. Is this why Firefox doesn’t come with Adblocker Plus [...]

  • http://www.atomicboysoftware.com/blog/2009/11/this-weeks-tidbits/ Thoughts of a Game Developer » This Weeks Tidbits

    [...] Ever wonder why Google made Chrome, and started pushing it on http://www.google.com? Aren’t there already a perfectly good browsers (Firefox, Safari)? This should shed some light on the reason: Mozilla, the organization behind the popular Firefox web browser, has extended its search deal with Google for another three years. In return for setting Google as the default search engine on Firefox, Google pays Mozilla a substantial sum – in 2006 the total amounted to around $57 million, or 85% of the company’s total revenue. The deal was originally going to expire in 2006, but was later extended to 2008 and will now run through 2011. (Source) [...]

  • http://www.tonorama.com/?p=6075 Así se financian los grandes proyectos del software libre | tonorama

    [...] En el 2006 gestionó unos ingresos de 66,8 millones de dólares, una pequeña parte de los cuales proceden de donaciones anónimas de particulares. Aún así, el gran grueso proviene de Google, que con casi 60 millones de dólares anuales, es el gran mecenas de esta organización. El acuerdo de patrocinio actual se extenderá hasta, al menos, el 2011. [...]

  • http://negociosyemprendimiento.com/asi-se-financian-los-grandes-proyectos-del-software-libre/ Así se financian los grandes proyectos del software libre | Negocios y Emprendimiento

    [...] En el 2006 gestionó unos ingresos de 66,8 millones de dólares, una pequeña parte de los cuales proceden de donaciones anónimas de particulares. Aún así, el gran grueso proviene de Google, que con casi 60 millones de dólares anuales, es el gran mecenas de esta organización. El acuerdo de patrocinio actual se extenderá hasta, al menos, el 2011. [...]

  • http://www.mictlansoft.com/blog/?p=36 ¿Cómo se financian los grandes proyectos del software libre?

    [...] En el 2006 gestionó unos ingresos de 66,8 millones de dólares, una pequeña parte de los cuales proceden de donaciones anónimas de particulares. Aún así, el gran grueso proviene de Google, que con casi 60 millones de dólares anuales, es el gran mecenas de esta organización. El acuerdo de patrocinio actual se extenderá hasta, al menos, el 2011. [...]

  • http://rsandsconsulting.com/2009/12/23/more-google-the-tao-of-open/ More Google – The Tao of Open | RSands Consulting

    [...] Google doesn’t do “open” to compete. They do “open” to drive adoption. But if you sell something that Google offers for free, tough luck! It sure feels like competition! Google Docs feels like competition to Microsoft. Android feels like competition to Symbian and Palm. Chrome feels like competition to Mozilla, and Google is Mozilla’s biggest benefactor! [...]

  • http://davidnaylor.org/blog/2008/10/idg-se-try-sticking-to-facts/ IDG.se, Try Sticking to the Facts « David Naylor: Blog

    [...] didn’t Google just renew their deal with Mozilla? This time for three years instead of two. The biggest advantage for Internet Explorer 8 is its [...]

  • http://www.iphone-ticker.de/2010/02/11/googles-platzierung-als-standard-suche-im-iphone-100-millionen-dollar-im-jahr-streit-um-maps-applikation-und-auslaufende-vertrage/ iFUN.de/iPhone :: Alles zum iPhone − Googles Platzierung als Standard-Suche im iPhone: 100 Millionen Dollar im Jahr, streit um Maps-Applikation und auslaufende Verträge

    [...] Teil eines “revenue share deals” aus den über Google generierten Werbeeinnahmen und in etwa doppelt so viel, wie der Suchmaschinen-Riese in seine Firefox-Präsenz [...]

  • http://degoogler.com/?p=110 Running up the Score for Chrome’s Competitors | The Degoogler Diaries

    [...] the way, Google has paid Mozilla significant sums of money over the years for that default setting, along with the right to be the default homepage [...]

  • http://wolfram.org/nyc/software/adblocking-plugin-for-firefox/ What Google Doesn’t Want You To Know — Adblocking plugin for Firefox  | The Irvington Dispatch

    [...] developing their own operating system. Google’s advert revenue is in the billions of dollars. Google already pays Firefox millions of dollars put them as the default search engine. Is this why Firefox doesn’t come with Adblocker Plus [...]

  • http://www.morgancheng.com/2010/03/23/how-microsoft-make-money-with-ie/ 微软怎么靠IE浏览器赚钱 | 巴别塔上的雇工

    [...] Mozilla Firefox和Google有交易，Firefox的搜索栏缺省使用Google的搜索服务，Google对Firefox提供资金支持。虽然Mozilla是一个非盈利组织，员工也要吃饭，开发也要买设备，没收入是不行的，而搜索量能够给Google带来广告收入，双方自然一拍即合。 [...]

  • http://the-mobiler.com/google-encouraging-android-adoption-by-revenue-sharing-deals-with-carriers-and-manufacturers Google encouraging Android adoption by revenue-sharing deals with carriers and manufacturers?

    [...] to be the default search provider for web browsers (Google’s deal with Firefox represented 85% of Mozilla’s revenue in 2006) and has always competed for exclusivity on large sites by offering juicier revenue shares [...]

  • http://www.turksohbet24.com Canli Sohbet

    Good point, I was worried that people might wind up getting the wrong impression. I’ve changed it to “taxable”.

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  • http://www.oyun.isvicresohbet.ch oyun

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