Seems like digg is down for maintenance anyway. “and effective immediately we won’t delete stories or comments containing the code”… but they put the site offline. Whatever. It was okay to delete that story in my opinion, but why did they had to ban a bunch of users? That’s what I don’t understand.

I just spoke to Rose, he says the site is getting unprecedented traffic and they are working to keep it online. Works for me currently.

Ooh yes, online again just now. I’d still like to hear a reason from Kevin Rose why they banned users. The upcoming episode of Diggnation will be interesting..

I followed the whole thing from the sidelines… wow. It was incredible to watch the whole thing unfold and then completely explode. The people were pretty unhappy….

If nothing else it was interesting to see the community give the site no option but to do what they wanted, especially after Digg deleted a few posts and a few accounts. I guess we have a long way to go before we really understand the potential of the online society….

Down goes Digg, it’s amazing what’s going on over there

The ‘mob’ isn’t always right.

Hum, I wonder how it would have been if it wasnt the MPAA or the RIAA and something that was black and white illegal. It is amazing to see how the community reacted.

Great!!

Finally users won.

This is one of the reasons I can’t stand digg. Its users are among the most childish on the internet. The front page is currently 100% stories with this code, with titles like “CHCEK OUT MY NEW FAVORITE NUMBER LOLZ” Uhh yah that’s funny haha!

This is like sitting ringside in a boxing match that is about to begin. This should be fun if it drags out. Imagine how much attention this C&D order brought to this subject. Wow.

Funny how in an effort to stop the spread of this info they unleashed the full power of Digg and now millions of people now know about this that otherwise wouldn’t have noticed.

I got a C&D order for telling the truth about myspaceguardian a few weeks ago on my crappy blog. Makes me want to put the post back up.

digg has jumped the shark

Usually systems with distributed sources of value are robust — it’s amazing how quickly this happened.

This whole thing just goes to show how powerful the digg community is. The homepage is down for maintenance at the moment – but if you head to digg.com/news you can still see the front page.

Michael, being a lawyer and all, it would be interesting to get your opinion on whether or not a company can copyright a number?

I think they took it down as al the subdomains are still up and running smoothly. They are probably just trying to figure out what to so.

I think the Digg crew didn’t handle it wery well at first.

They should probably have posted an entry in their blog prior to the deletion of the story, perhaps even showing a copy of the letter from the MPAA, and redirecting the anger towards who really deservers it, instead of deleting the story and reacting afterwards.

In a way, I’m surprised they didn’t see it coming. It would have been soooo easy to turn the gun around, and yet, they pointed it right at their throat. It’s not like this is the first C&D letter a UGC site gets, for goddsake…

I submitted a story that got over 1500 diggs in under 20min. I personally think its too little too late, digg will never be the same. It is in the heat of the moment, when a corporation is breathing down your neck, and your left to make a choice – users – or the company, that the true colors show. Kevin sacrificed a million plus people who made digg what it is, to avoid the POSSIBILITY of a law suit.

For all we know, they got advise from their legal staff detailing how this is a weak case for the corporation.

Kudoes to everyone in the community who forced Team Digg to backtrack to threats from MPAA :D

I have been watching this all unfold the last few hours…incredible!

Funny thing is, the supposed HD-DVD unlocking key is for Linux only, yet the firestorm rolled through. It was quite a sight to witness.

This is a wake-up call for the old media. Net citizens’ hatred for DRM, RIAA, MPAA, and VIAAcom is reaching a crescendo.

Great comment Mike Levington.

Yeah this is precisely the reason I read this site and others instead of Digg. The content is chosen by people with a financial stake in making the site appealing to users. I’ll take that motivation anytime, anywhere, over the democracy of Digg.

Digg is a combination of stories important to zealous people with a lot of free time on their hands, and people with a lot of incentive to use it to drive traffic to their sites. Neither’s goals are in line with my own, and neither group necessarily has increasing the value of Digg to the users as their main goal.

The whole AACS thing is barely interesting, much less compelling, and a page full of stories about it might as well be a 500 Internal Server Error to me. Who cares if it’s offline right now. It already was.

LOL

Get a grip and come back to reality. This was just an outlay to show how immature mob mentality can get. It wasn’t noble. It wasn’t graceful. It was just outright pathetic as the day went on.

Then Kevin Rose gave in. Hip hip hooray? You’re happy? Let’s all resort to being 3 and throw tantrums until we get our way. Way to show your colors.

Also Arun, or anyone, what exactly did the users win here? The exodus of people looking for interesting stories? A group temper tantrum, or just a little power trip for the mob? Hey, congratulations, that’s just fantastic.

Tough call which site is more myopic these days between Digg and Reddit.

Copyright exclusively covers “creative” works and there’s no way in heck even the broadest interpretation of this could include a random number sequence. There’s just no way. Whether or not there are legal implications other than copyright I can’t speak for.

Regardless, kudos to Rose and crew for having the b_lls to do the right thing.

Alaska, i don’t think you fully understand the implications. They sold out dude.

Thanks for this article, Michael. I’m frankly amazed at how quickly the user community mobilized on this. It reminds me of something Guy Kawasaki said at a presentation earlier this month:

“For a startup to survive, it has to always 09F911029D74 at full E35BD84156 C5635688C0!”

What percentage of people even care or are interested in this key? I’m a pretty savvy computer person and I don’t have any idea what to do with it… half the other guys I talked to today were like WTF is this key thing??

@Kewt, please don’t forget how Digg users handled the “Photoshopped” issue with maturity.Instead of banning the users, they could have just posted an explanation at their blog.

Michael,

This post is much more Crunch network style than the very poor one on the issue on CrunchGear (not that you wrote it or anything, but still).

Thank you.

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It also helps when your CEO is the founder and former CTO of your colo (Equinix). If someone pulls the plug it’s likely the upstream provider under pressure, yet Digg is pretty integrated with that stream.

[...] the powerful leader in news social bookmarking, has fallen to the mob. This happened after a story of a HD-DVD crack. A company demanded for it to be taken down and it [...]

To the people claiming that this was merely an immature act, how about you have a clue about the issues at hand. A pseudo random hex string should not be copyrightable!
This unreasonable censorship must be stopped and for once, the people had their way. Are you retards grasping this?

Web 3.0 The Users Revolt

Joe Graham: didn’t Digg “sell out” the day the company took money from VCs?

All this drama just goes to show how smart companies like News Corp. were to apparently turn down the “opportunity” to acquire Digg for a 9 figure amount. Outside of the pure insanity of paying 9 figures for something that has unimpressive monetization and apparently/reportedly hasn’t broken even yet, this is the perfect example of how the “wisdom of the crowd” can just as easily become the “stupidity of the crowd.” Without debating whether or not Digg sold out its users, I tend to agree with Kewtr. In an age where the democratization of news, apparently provided by services like Digg, is heralded as the greatest thing since sliced bread, it’s easy to forget that there are significant advantages to news services with professional editors. The content on MSNBC or CNN might not always be great and I don’t have a say in what gets to the front page, but I also don’t have to worry that the editors of these services are going to go apeshit tonight and that I won’t be able to get any news tomorrow.

Bottom line: Digg isn’t in control of its own service and regardless of what you think of Digg and the people who use it, to create true business value you have to exert some control over the services you run. Institutional investors haven’t put money into Digg so that Digg can fight legal battles against The Man. They put money in hoping to make more money. A business model for Digg looked elusive before this; now the entire service model looks shaky and even if Digg survives, I think a lot of permanent damage has been done. At the very least, I can’t imagine anybody who was looking at Digg as a possible acquisition not having some serious concerns.

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[...] Techcrunch  has an article about the whole  affair. There is also an post on the digg blog regarding this. [...]

Most people just don’t care about their right to post encryption keys, and the fact that this tiny group has managed to overtake digg really shows their community is a pretty narrow group.

A geek riot is what drudge calls it

http://www.drudgereport.com/

[...] story has been picked up by the more popular bloggers, and Digg capitulated on their Blog – admitting defeat and promising not to remove anymore [...]

An optimistic take might be that this is the kind of shared trauma that brings a community together, while providing the noise and smoke cover to frag the less-helpful members. It’s not altogether surprising that this sort of event sequence would drive the Diggers off the reservation, but the propagation speed and extent of the hysterics does sort of point to the need for more after-school programs or something.

Web nerd shout-out to timeless and the other folks manning the squirt guns keeping the Digg servers cool tonight.

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is this going to hit mainstream press?

One unstated concern is that of HD-DVD. How will this impact that product? They ultimately need the support of the MPAA in their competition with Blu-Ray. If HD-DVD is the format known to be universally crackable, poof, a billion dollar business is gone.

I’m just glad I didn’t buy that $200 HD-DVD player.

[...] also coverage at tech crunch, The Digg Blog, and . . . well [...]

Thanks for your take, Mike. I watched (and participated) in the entire thing from start to finish. I was mostly pissed that Digg neglected to mention that HD-DVD was a sponsor when they first started taking down stories.

I wish Kathy were still blogging so she could revive her Wisdom/Stupidity of Crowds post. Maybe Danah has some thoughts on the issue.

I agree with the users on this one. They win. I just wish they could turn their power on some issue that actually mattered.

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have they release Back to the Future I-III on HD-DVD???

Paul, good point.

[...] Arrington totally nails it: “Until today, it seems, even Digg didn’t fully understand the power of its community to [...]

And Michael Arrington’s approach to censorship is….

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0.

What surprises me in these matters is that *visitors* of a website feel they have some sort of right to determine what is or isn’t published on this site. I don’t care how much time you spend submitting stories or digging comments, you’re a visitor and you should behave as such. This includes not breaking the rules set by your host. If you don’t like the rules, don’t come and visit. How reasonable or unreasonable the rules are is completely irrelevant.

Why is mob mentality rewarded online?

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I rest my case: 25 – 30 year old immature virgins make up the majority of Diggers. The sausage fest has gone out of control.

Spot on Menno.

Some of the digg stories mention protecting their “freedom of speech”. Surely there is no such thing on a private website. In giving the users power some appear to have let it go to their heads and now regard digg as their own. This is wrong.

Digg has proved to me that groupthink and mob mentality, whilst having their place, lead to half-truths and inaccuracies being propagated. Not how I want my news delivered.

From a social critic’s standpoint, that mob rule would amount to e-looting is no surprise. From a legal standpoint, that a number can’t be copyrighted may be true…for now. Scary thing is that while a number can’t be copyrighted, genes can be patented. Total information control would be the next natural step in the military-industrial-corporate complex. So, copyrighting a number, may be in our future, as cooler heads have not prevailed of late.

It is good to see that, for now, information can still enjoy a relatively free exchange on the internet. It is a bit disappointing though that it should find its popular rallying cry in motives as ignoble as not having to pay for access to creative works when there are plenty in the world who do not even have the luxury to be online at all. In other words, for any internet user to be whining about the costs of HD-DVD movies and the egregious injustices meted out upon their hapless souls needs a reality check.

I, for one, am not happy about the state of the entertainment industry. But neither do I suppose that some inalienable right of mine has been violated on this ground. Better to defend others’ rights who are less able to defend themselves, if righteousness is has any value.

“I think the Digg crew didn’t handle it wery well at first.

They should probably have posted an entry in their blog prior to the deletion of the story, perhaps even showing a copy of the letter from the MPAA, and redirecting the anger towards who really deservers it, instead of deleting the story and reacting afterwards.

In a way, I’m surprised they didn’t see it coming. It would have been soooo easy to turn the gun around, and yet, they pointed it right at their throat. It’s not like this is the first C&D letter a UGC site gets, for goddsake…”

Amen to that!

For those dying for their fix – Digg is back online. :p

@Menno – your point of view assumes an old-school reality with your understanding of ‘host’ and ‘guest’ in relation to websites.

Regardless of legality or actual rights, Digg has represented a defacto environment of freedom-of-speech and democratic shared-ownership to users. Users have become emotionally invested in this environment. For Digg to interfere with this freedom after the fact has led to the uprising.

[...] Update: Techcrunch says it so much better than me with Digg Surrenders to Mob [...]

I remember the old debate about online services being responsible for their users’ speech; where they mere carriers of information, detached from what users did or said, or where they participants in the speech itself, were they molding it ?

User-generated content is about relinquishing control; you do not choose what goes on your main page. You have abdicated that role. UGC sites believe that in the end the equilibrium of participatory mob interests will prevail and be reflective of their readership’s interests at large.

The problem today has nothing at all to do with whether mobs are dumb or Digg is useless. The problem is twofold: 1) who is forming speech ? Isn’t Digg making itself responsible just by molding it, reflecting upon it by selecting for what is allowable and what is not ? 2) If mobs have to have value, they must be free to express themselves as they seek and find equilibrium points; often, as is the case here (I’m not a lawyer, but it looks like a DMCA/anti-circumvention offense more than a copyright one), the mob at large will transgress legal borders while seeking those points; who is then held to repair the damages caused ? The mob or their meeting space ?

However things unfold here, it will be fascinating.

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[...] Techcrunch has more on this. [...]

[...] digg surrenders to mob – wow [...]

[...] Internet users, Digg was only the catalyst. Look at any other big Internet site: Gizmodo, Mashable, TechCrunch: on every single one you’ll find a comment containing the dreaded key. For some reason, this [...]

[...] Arrington says over at Techcrunch: Until today, it seems, even Digg didn’t fully understand the power of its community to [...]

The Code, The Diggs, and The Coming Revolution…

It may well be a watershed event for Web 2.0, or at least a significant test. Things have been bubbling for a few days, but today (5/1), it finally boiled over.
In case you haven’t heard — a few days ago the hex code needed to crack HD-DV…

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[...] Look the are revolting at Digg. These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new [...]

Give digg another year and it will die

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Much respect:

“We hear you, and effective immediately we won’t delete stories or comments containing the code and will deal with whatever the consequences might be.”

That’s why Digg WILL survive.

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I hope DIGG gets sued out of existence

[...] is following the story: To say what happened today on Digg was a “user revolt” is an understatement. The Digg team [...]

[...] Digg Surrenders to Mob [...]

[...] all this 09-F9 stuff is about, it has something to do with DVDs. And freedom of information on the internet. Or something like [...]

[...] to put it mildly. If you are unaware of what has gone on, please familiarize yourself with the events of the past day or so before reading [...]

While Mike and the couple of other I’ve read have all basically said Kevin Rose “gave in” to the users, did anyone bother to notice that the title of his statement is the key number? Doesn’t that give the C&D senders a real person to sue. Did he just do something (possibly) illegal for all to see?

How many digg users have their real name on Digg?

Legal Implications of the Digg-HD-DVD story…

After the mayhem at Digg around the leaked decryption key for HD-DVDs, Digg founder Kevin Rose posted on the Digg blog a post saying that they will accept their users’ will and stop taking down stories about this code….

It’s not just mob rule, it’s rule of law.

The DMCA specifically prohibits the unauthorized distribution of copyrighted work and circumvention devices. The code is a reverse-engineered trade secret, neither a copyrighted work nor a circumvention device.

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[...] La Revolution Techcrunch points out Diggs’ surrender to crazy mobs – 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0! [...]

It will all happen in social network site. Digg has to pass through this stage and its the start. I predict lot going to come like this.

[...] Digg Surrenders to Mob Jump to Comments Digg Surrenders to Mob [...]

If random hex strings cannot be copywritten how can a computer program be copywritten, after all they are just a ‘random’ order of 1s and 0s? Have there been any court cases for software copyright infringement where the accussed has claimed they made up a random string of bits?

the mob isnt always prudent, doesnt look out for anyones interest, does not have to adhere to corporate policies, and isnt responsible to anyone… the mob in this case may end up killing its golden goose… this is bad

The world is a changing

For those people who are saying, “..whats the use of the key…” and “…most people have no use for it…” this isn’t about whether we can use the key or not. This is just another fight against the people who are trying to curtail individual freedom.

What’s a Digg? Never heard of it before this, but after reading these posts…don’t wanna know.

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[...] phrase from DMCA to free speech to sold out. It even spilled over onto other sites like Reddit , TechCrunch and TechPwn. The CEO issued a statement that basically said get over it (I’m paraphrasing) [...]

I am not a lawyer and cannot claim to have any authority on the legal issues involved, but it appears to me that Digg was given a C&D notice, which they initially tried to abide by. When the proverbial hit the fan though, they relented and gave in to the mass.

This not only ignored the C&D, but also went against Digg’s own terms of service. The pertinent question is why? Was it simply to protect the image of Digg and its founders, namely saint Kevin, deity to the fanboys, or was it a knee jerk financial descision?

I think the answer is waited more to the financial side, but also to the image. Without the image, Digg is just would quickly become an less significant player in the niche of news services.

I agree with some of the other comments here, I think Digg handled the entire affair poorly, and while they may retain the fanboy base for a while longer, this could have far more damaging effects from a business perspective.

They have shown that, given enough pressure, they will bend over to the masses. In hindsight, this was inevitable. Previous behaviour of the Digg crowd has illustrated their propensity for this type of behaviour.

All we can hope is that they use this new found power for good. ;-)

[...] According to Techcrunch “That just got the Digg community fired up, and soon the entire Digg home page was filled with stories containing the decryption key. The users had taken control of the site, and unless Digg went into wholesale deletion mode and suspended a large portion of their users, there was absolutely nothing they could do to stop it.” -Techcrunch [...]

[...] d’État on a major social network. As described on TechCrunch, yesterday was the day that Digg surrendered to a mob of users that stormed the…well, the front page of Digg. A popular social news site, Digg allows users [...]

I haven’t visited digg in weeks, but even when I was there regularly, I thought that a problem was on the horizon: you can not build a community by making users feel important and then modify/manipulate their importance when it seems like a good idea. The toothpaste can’t go back in the tube, so to speak.

This is one reason that for all their pitfalls, sites like Netscape and Newsvine have a chance – they make it clear there are layers of control between the users and the front page. Most users will accept such a thing if they know its there in the first place. Those who don’t accept editing of content will go somewhere like digg, where it’s only a matter of time before something like what happens yesterday takes place.

So, what is the difference between this hex code and oh say.. a serial key?

For me looking at it, Google should have served a notice to Digg by now to remove the offending material, as they do not allow you to have any cracks/serials on a website at the same time with AdSense.

This is probably the best way of justifying the take down of this kind of material, if we cannot have advertising on the site, we cannot make money and thus we will cease to exist.

Pierce

There will be no community if someone decides that digg is uncontrollable.
Don’t misuse what you have…!

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Almost got sued…

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I think this points out a danger in investing big money into content driven websites…at the end of the day, there is nothing protecting your investment. As of this moment digg is back and the front page is essentially hd-dvd key free. But what if that hadn’t happened? What if digg really did die yesterday? I’m not familiar with their financial history, but a lot of people who may have invested millions in them as a company would be in very sorry shape right now.

I guess it goes back to old investment 101 principles of protecting your investment. Digg has no intellectual property or patents to speak of. It’s mostly just very popular (and I’m definitely noticing a trend toward investing in raw popularity these days). And as we all know from high school, popularity can disappear with just one social misstep. Time will tell how this impacts digg, but this should serve as a warning to investors everywhere.

As a long time Digg user, I’d rather have the site shut down and go out fighting – since there is no way in HELL I will tolerate being bullied or censored.

As my Dad used to say:

“…I brought you into this world, I’ll take you out!”

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if i wanted to get news today, my gut tells me, the new york times works better. ; )

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“if i wanted to get news today, my gut tells me, the new york times works better. ; )”

I love NYT for getting news — but if I want to see news take shape, I’ll probably see more of that on Digg. ;)

I think it only grows from here because frankly it is all bigger than what we think it is……users are powerful. They create a more open society, self publishing equals self awareness equals social networks, social media, social responsibility, equals…..social aggregation of it all. That platform beta launched yesterday, I know I helped proudly launch it at http://www.yougetit.com. People can now be anything they want to be on the web…it doesn’t make a difference if your a writer or want to be a book publisher, if your a musician or want to be the actual label/producer….want to be heard or start a revolution. It really happened (ask Digg), its very real and it will happen again and again. Power to the people, speak your minds. Good Luck and Godspeed.

[...] the revolution continued and Digg users effectively took control of Digg, saturating the service with many posts that contain the same decryption number. Digg became [...]

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this story is really incredible, wow

[...] Digg Surrenders to Mob – TechCrunch [...]

I think many people here are missing the point. Yes, this is a turning point for Digg, showing the power of users over central control. Yes, many digg users are a pain in the ass. But more importantly, this is a battle, not at all won, over freedom of speech and ownership of ideas. And even the biggest pains in the ass understand that it’s not about illegally copying DVDs at all.

Numbers are the intellectual property of the universe, not any person or corporation. A number could be written as 3, as 111, or as III and it would carry the same meaning. It could represent an image. It could form a sound, or a word. It could be nothing of any importance. One can simply not own a number, a mathematical concept, any more than one can own a thought.

And no one should be able to confiscate such a concept and keep it secret through threats, simply because they failed to understand technology or basic security concepts. Using a magic number to secure your content is the equivalent of protecting it with locks made of tissue paper and crayons. It’s simply a fantasy. And it demonstrates to me that the MPAA companies don’t value their content nearly as much as they claim. What they care about is power and control to tell us how to use what we buy, when to watch, where to watch, and how often (even after we buy) to pay.

[...] morning, people are writing about it. Michael Arrington on Techcrunch cited “the power of community” and called it a “revolution.” Grant Robertson [...]

“I just spoke to Rose, he says the site is getting unprecedented traffic and they are working to keep it online”

This just seems like a big marketing move to me. Its proven that it is very difficult to be kicked offline simply because you link to semi-legal or illegal content ( Look at http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/index.html) for example.

Given Rose’s exaggerated “If we lose, then what the hell, at least we died trying” it seems that he is simply trying to make the company look more heroic than it is, and therefore attract the attention of the mainstream media. Realistically this will do nothing except increase Digg’s traffic….

@david hyman – actually, the NY Times is covering the Digg Revolt http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/02/the-day-the-digg-users-revolted/

And, I just chatted with CJ, his “chesterjosiah” username, the one that posted the 15k digg getter, is still banned from Digg this morning

Amazing. Can Digg recover from this major backlash? My guess is that they will weather the storm.

Check out my photoshopped T-shirt image with the forbidden key. Now if only someone would sell these, I’d buy one. :) Maybe I’ll suggest it to ThinkGeek.com, makers of the popular binary T-shirt.

forbidden HD-DVD key t-shirt

When the “mob” comes for you, perhaps all of you won’t be so smug.

[...] the online mob wins at Digg. A user revolt has just happened at Digg (you can read about it here, here, and here). Digg, for those who don’t know, is a social content site where users can [...]

[...] Digg Surrenders to Mob [...]

Wow,

Thanks for covering this.

Awesome. Love it — Interesting to see how this plays out

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Wow, you can’t buy that kind of publicity!

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Freaking ridiculous. All these people remind me of the deaf girl’s boyfriend on the TV show “Jericho”, who don’t understand the nature of industry and commerce. On one episode set in a post-nuclear attack USA where the infrastructure is now gone, this dweeb says that the answer to the problem is to just get the internet back online, then people can just, you know, order stuff.

Vic

[...] key. 2. Digg gets notice to take story down. 3. Digg does so. 4. Digg community goes into absolute revolt and floods site with copies of decryption story. 5. Digg founders relent. Great story, and big [...]

one of the most important stories of 2007 to date…

[...] won’t give a thousandth opinion on what’s going with the kids at digg tonight, but you have to wonder at the value of a content discovery mechanism steered by a mob with an [...]

- “the moment digg changed” ….

– lets not make this something it isn’t …..

its not “The moment man landed on the moon..”
its not “The moment slavery ended..”
its not “the moment Google went public..”

– this is small potatoes. – RB

p.s. the community is weak at digg, I would rather have 10 slashdot users other than 50 digg users

@ Rishi – You are right. This is quite possibly a big publicity stunt.

@ Michael Arrington / tommyp – Seriously. Do you plan on writing about important things again? Anytime now TechCrunch. Anytime.

Drama 2.0 nails it again. Digg is going to lose its attractiveness as an acquisition target. Conde Nast is already reeling from wasting $12.8 MM on Reddit. My guess is that Digg would accept nothing below $200 MM which means that no one in their right mind should pay for them with the userbase they have which is full of duplicate and spam accounts.

Any community that is dominated by a tiny group of people is going to get out of whack. New users don’t find it interesting and Digg doesn’t really focus on things that matter to 99% of people. So what is the revolution behind social media? That people who have enormous amounts of free time can scour the web to post news for me? Great.

Web 3.0 :P

Caete
—-
http://www.caetemh.com/

Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

Translation = No Pity for the Majority.

Would have never happened on Netscape ;)

May 1st as Internet Freedom Day.

Digg Surrenders to Mob…

Fun, Fun, Fun…

In the words of the immortal Homer Simpson “Doh!”

Kevin Rose Loses Control of Digg…

In case you missed it, and most people who read tech news probably haven’t, the digg user base has revolted and taken control of digg. No, I don’t mean they stormed their offices and seized control of the servers or anything, but they may a…

A bunch of bad apples at Digg. This is an example of what not let to happen to your site. If this mob had to pay out of their own pockets, for site like this, they would be crying like babies.

[...] by digg. The entire event is covered by every single technology focused blog from Boing Boing and Techcrunch to CenterNetworks. The story is all over TechMeme as if there is nothing more important in the [...]

[...] Digg surrenders to Mob [...]

All I can say – whoever invested in:

DIGGISFUCKED.COM (no idea if this is taken)

just got a good pay out.

Mike – please prepare a story for the Digg and the DeadPool :D

[...] very interesting story on TechCrunch this morning: “To say what happened today on Digg was a “user revolt” is an [...]

Bloodbath at Digg, Digg surrenders to Mob…

posted at IndianBytes.c…

[...] key. 2. Digg gets notice to take story down. 3. Digg does so. 4. Digg community goes into absolute revolt and floods site with copies of decryption story. 5. Digg founders relent. Great story, and big [...]

i love all this talk about how “the community won”. but what happens when digg is sued into non-existence because they won’t (or in this case CAN’T) take down the key? do you really think a judge is going to say, “unreasonable censorship must be stopped”?

i think kevin rose’s comment, “If we lose, then what the hell, at least we died trying.” is a little more telling in that, digg could be sued into nothing. then where would these childish geeks be?

yes, digg should have put to onus on the company that issued the C&D but, at the same time, i would have thought the geek community would’ve been smart enough to figure that out for themselves and direct their anger to the proper source. oh wait, they probably aren’t smart enough for that based on their reactionary response.

Hey, does anyone know if that is _the_ John Negroponte up there at #48? Just wondering… that would be rather interesting…

[...] is additional coverage here, here and a Canadian point of view here. If that’s not enough then you can go to Techmeme for [...]

[...] 5/2/2007: Tech Crunch nails another web phenomena: Digg users determine the news….as they say “Viva La [...]

[...] the story here: link    [...]

[...] a recollection, some posts about the whole story can be found on Techcrunch, Crunchgear or Bokardo, or with screenshots of the Digg front page(s) on Gizmodo. You’ll [...]

[...] Digg Surrenders to Mob [...]

[...] 因為剛好昨天全世界最有名的Web 2.0殿堂級網站 – 俗民新聞代表者 – Digg.com，發生了一件被Om Malik稱為Digg有史以來最危險的事件（greatest crisis of its young life），而詳情可見TechCrunch這篇： « Previous post May 1 2007 Digg Surrenders to Mob。事件始於某位高人將一組可以破解在Linux上觀看HD-DVD的key公佈出來，然後在很短時間內這篇文章被爆掘了15492次！我還真沒見過這麼恐怖的digg數！真相請見此。這可不是原始的文章網頁，因為這則文章在暴衝後不久就被Digg CEO Jay Adelson給刪掉了，理由是有違法之虞。然後可想而知立刻引起一堆網民痛加幹譙，複製文及相關故事亦一篇接一篇地佔滿Digg版面。更有甚者，很多被認為是刊登此類違法文的作者帳號也備戰方給砍了！這個網址就是另一個傢伙在第一時間把此篇文章的「盛況」完整複製下來的原始真相。 [...]

[...] case you hadn’t heard, last night Digg users had themselves a good old-fashioned [...]

I’m curious … if those screaming loudest against Digg’s ‘censorship’ apply the same reasoning to other arenas and debates about free speech, ownership, etc. My gut feeling is many of the angry fists would just as easy focus their mob fury to silence someone, or an idea, they disagree with.

Am I the only that finds “pingback” useless? (To all except the webmaster.)

Mike, please consider putting them under user comments :)

[...] driving Digg users crazy InfortmationWeek: HD DVD/Blu-ray Decryption Key Widely Posted Online TechCrunch: Digg surrenders to the mobb Rudd-O.com: Spread this number Freedom-to-Tinker: AACS plays whack-a-mole with Extracted Key CJ [...]

Censorship – bad.

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[...] driving Digg users crazy InfortmationWeek: HD DVD/Blu-ray Decryption Key Widely Posted Online TechCrunch: Digg surrenders to the mobb Rudd-O.com: Spread this number Freedom-to-Tinker: AACS plays whack-a-mole with Extracted Key CJ [...]

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That’s great. This is exactly why I look at community based news sites in addition to the normal news channels, because they come up with stories like these that other outlets may miss or are not allowed to publish.

GJ
http://www.60in3.com

This only reinforces to me how childish people can be. I want access to something you own, and if you don’t give it to me my “rights” are being violated? It seems to me the people who run digg have a much greater vested interest in keeping it alive than its readers do. The mob throws a hissy fit, digg gets sued out of existence, and the crowd shrugs and migrates to the next similar service that comes along. It’s pretty easy to stand on principle when it’s someone else’s money that’s at risk. I’m willing to bet that most of the people who scoff at the concept of honoring copyrights have never produced anything worth copyrighting.

And I’m no tech wiz, but I’m not sure how an encryption key can be described as a set of “random” numbers. If they’re random, then making them public would not be an issue. I suspect they’re more similar to code, which I’m pretty sure can be copyrighted.

There’s a case to be made for making information more available, but the whole concept that I can decide that your property should be shared with me whether you like it or not is reflective of a sense of entitlement that’s sickening. “Censorship?” “This is just another fight against the people who are trying to curtail individual freedom?” What, the freedom to take what you want from others without consequence? Grow up.

[...] people that can influence an outcome was apparent here.  As I read a comment by Paul Montgomery at Tech Crunch it came clear to me that this could be a New Digg [...]

[...] bender, or generally out of touch, here are a couple links to get the low down. here, here, and here. Tags: Digg, revolt, social Sphere: Related Content Filed under asides.  | Tags: Digg, [...]

[...] Malkin posts briefly, Brian Preston calls it (perhaps) the “first full-blown online riot?”, TechCrunch says that digg surrendered to the mob (and tosses in a “Vive la revolution.” for good measure), [...]

A great step for copyright “war”. ;)

ChrisO –

Well said!

While I found last nights display to be remarkably childish, I was mildly proud of how many people refused to take the BS that was being fed to them.

I am all for the dismantling of the pathetically antiquated patent system that is in place in the US.

Yes, we do not patents. Yes, the current system does not work any longer. Yes, it needs to be updated because this kind of thing will keep happening over and over again until these companies/groups realize they cannot gag consumers any longer without us putting up a fight.

Last night on Digg was indeed a memorable moment to watch (and ever so slightly take part in).

^^

“Yes, we do not patents.” should read “Yes, we do need patents.”

I think all who claim that this is a free speech issue are a lazy; there is a law, called the DMCA, established by a democracy. If you disagree with it, you can either 1) get involved and repeal the law, which is the normal process in a functioning society; or 2) do nothing while the law is written, debated, passed, and challenged, then simply break it repeatedly hoping that this short-cut approach will make you some sort of micro-Che Guevarra, O great lazy one. When people take #2, more often then not, they are lazy and attention-starved. It bothers me to no end when they next quote Thoreau, thinking that their measly little concerns hold any comparison to true battles against injustice.

Um… the patent office is open. You can view what is patented. Information itself is not illegal. It’s how the information is used that may or may not be illegal.

[...] Techcrunch: Digg Surrenders to Mob [...]

“This is one of the reasons I can’t stand digg. Its users are among the most childish on the internet. The front page is currently 100% stories with this code, with titles like “CHCEK OUT MY NEW FAVORITE NUMBER LOLZ” Uhh yah that’s funny haha!”

i could not agree more

[...] Day Tags:digg, drm, hd dvd, jay adelson, kevin roseI had the fortunate opportunity to watch the digg episode unfold last [...]

[...] now we have people proclaiming that this whole event has been a revolution or how this event has changed the internet with only a couple of [...]

I”m curious … how someone would react if his/her garage access code was published on the web, along with the house location. They’re just numbers, right? No. They’re numbers that allow access to a specific property that is owned by someone.

Get it? If you don’t, you’re likely the same type of person who cheats on your taxes, then justifies it because others do it too, and you don’t like the way the government spends some of ‘your’ tax dollars. Maybe you cry “discrimination!” (to intimidate the opposition into silence) when illegal aliens using stolen identities (yours perhaps?) are prosecuted/deported.

Nice post, Viva la Couch Potato.

Quick Hits — May 2, 2007…

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Saying the ‘community won’ here is like saying the black community won during the Rodney King riots. The only thing that happened was that a group of people boiled over due to some perceived injustice and destroyed their collective property, virtual or otherwise. And in both cases, individuals take advantage of the carnage to indulge in petty theft.

I like the idea that the community decides in what direction a community site goes!

[...] Ref: TechCrunch  [...]

[...] Ref: TechCrunch  [...]

[...] Techcrunch says even Digg didn’t fully understand the power of its community to determine what is “news.” digg, technology Web 2.0Share This Sphere: Related Content Enjoyed reading this post, subscribe to my RSS feed Related Articles at Technology Bites [...]

“geek riot”

Oh man, that would be an awesome band name and it’s a perfect description of what’s gone on here.

Love it.

[...] the fun, John Chow races to get his blog out of auto-bury, Kumiko reveals Digg’s true colors, Tech Crunch points out the power of Digg [...]

[...] – A comunidade de usuários do Digg ficou revoltada.“Atacou” o site e encheu o mesmo com links para a sequência de números. Em certo momento, a página do Digg tinha somente [...]

Witness the power of the Romper Room brigade. Sheeesh.

This story is absolute BS! This wasn’t a mob revolt – Digg got hacked! Duh. This was obvious because among other things, stories with 1 digg were appearing on the home page.

ChrisO and JBoyd, very convincing argument arguments.

[...] What happened on Digg yesterday did not have to happen. It was the wisdom of the crowd spiraling downward into a perfect storm of mob rule. The two main factors that contributed to the strength of said storm are the Digg community’s disdain for DRM and the general unawareness of the fact that Digg has moderators. [...]

I feel bad for Digg. All they tried to do was what they had to do to stay in business and now they could be knocked off the Internet because of a few bad apples.

[...] This story is being massivly discussed among bloggers, check out Techmeme for full coverage. “Until today, it seems, even Digg didn’t fully understand the power of its community to determine what is “news.” I think the community made their point crystal clear,” Michael Arrington comments at TechCrunch. [...]

I’m not going to add anything new here necessarily but I wanted to say I agree it seems digg could have bypassed a lot of the firestorm if they had just posted an entry showing a copy of the C& D letter and saying unfortunately we cannot allow this.

I do find it very interesting [i.e. shady] that digg neglected to mention that HD-DVD was a sponsor.

[...] Wikipedia fervently worked to sensor this topic, citing non-notability and illegality, even as every major blogger on the internet rushed to cover the story. Slashdot covered the story from its [...]

Hi There:

I’m a part of the “mob” that participated last night. Stayed up ’til 3am watching/voting, on and off. It would be easy to write me off as a child, someone immature, or someone “caught up in the moment”. None of this applies to me, and I think many of the others that participated.

The reason I kept voting up the stories is because, like many of us, I’m sick to death of the MPAA/RIAA lawsuits and threats, and moreover big companies manipulate smaller ones with threatening letters of dubious legal action. I know this wasn’t directly connected to the MPAA/RIAA, but it was the one thing we could strike back at. And as for the companies that threaten legal action, as a small website owner, we have no choice but to cowtow to them. Digg however has, what, a $ 3 million a year revenue stream plus venture capitial funding? They CAN stand up to them, and bloody well should.

Anyway, writing it off to “mob mentality” is unfairly dismissing what is/did happen there last night. Do I think they “jumped the shark”? Last night I had to wonder, but today things are back on track. I suspect this is similar to the Facebook incident where they rolled out services that angered many of their users. I would surprised if Digg lost that much of its audience. Arguably people will stay because they now realize that they CAN “take control” of the site when the need arises. Getting that “perfect storm” isn’t easy, though.

I have to admit, if I was an investor there, I would be worried. There are definitely lessons to be learned from this. I think it will take at least a month or two to determine the full extent of the fallout.

woo……i guess digg did try the best to control the situation, but the power of community news is just far greater than they can imagine.

nice coverage.

the truth will out

Many people here are missing the point. This was not as much about the HD hex code as it was about censorship in general on Digg. If you look at most of the comments on last nights post you’ll notice people were mad because of “censorship’ in general on Digg. In fact, it came to light that most of the stories that do no hit the homepage are not “Bury”ed by the community but rather by the Digg admin team and for a site that is supposed to be democratic this is something to get upset about.

How would most of the posters here like it if Google ditched the algorithm and simply ranked sites by some admins opinion?

Top 10 Digg Alternatives:
http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/social10.html

This is indeed very interesting!

[...] on Digg and elsewhere, and even displays the code in the search results. TechCrunch has an article (Digg Surrenders to Mob) on how Digg responded to a takedown notice (by removing the post and suspending the account) and [...]

The Digg Mob Reveals Childish, Wild West Side of the Internet…

The blogosphere and the rest of the Internet offer tremendous opportunities for people to live, learn, and work better. Great information resources exist. Communications tools facilitate interaction. And an entire infrastructure exists to enable creati…

[...] tons out there about this right now. Way, way, way more than I mention here, but this seems to be so big, that I thought I had to mention it [...]

Digg Surrenders to Mob…

To say what happened today on Digg was a “user revolt” is an understatement….

Some Digg users need to un-bunch their panties. These geeks act like they actually own Digg. They take themselves way too seriously. Having such a love/hate relationship with users must be annoying for Kevin Rose. I wouldn’t be surprised if he cashes ot on Digg pretty soon.

[...] you have no idea what I’m talking about, here’s an excerpt from TechCrunch: To say what happened today on Digg was a “user revolt” is an understatement. The Digg [...]

Wow. Pretty amazing. Though I don’t know how I missed this, I am a daily digg reader.

It is pretty sad how a herd of people would jump of the same bridge at the risk of bringing down digg itself. Digg has a set of rules and rights. And those who choose to violate the website don’t have respect for it. Censorship is not much of an issue either- it’s not like the key wasn’t on other blogs.

At the risk of being labelled a f**ktard this is a non-story with sad, knock on consequences. Digg is a great resource but when the juvenile brats climb out their collective pram to throw brickbats have they any idea what they’re doing for the mainstream acceptance of rating systems like Digg?

Sorry guys but it’s about time the blogerati starts to grow up and behave like responsible adults. Otherwise don’t be surprised when large corps take a look at this kind of behaviour and run for the hills.

[...] can read more about the Digg revolt here, here, here, and here. Powered by Gregarious (42) Share This (No Ratings Yet)  Loading … [...]

It is inevitable that if the Digg team or any other web 2.0 site team for that matter, starts to censor people and take away their freedoms, the community will fight back. Digg was built by its users, and provides a platform for them to decide what news items they are interested in. The minute authority starts to dictate for them which stories are “news worthy” and which stories are not, it no longer provides a worthwhile platform and they will move elsewhere.

[...] Digg Surrenders to Mob (tags: community copyright tech web2.0 digg) [...]

the community does own. we are steeped in private rights and ownership and that is good, but this soc networking works b/c of the users and what they want and what it creates. the marketers exploit it. and profit. the enterpreneurs, vc, it, right down the line to wall street, all profit.

this s**ts new girls and boys. sometimes it seems we are too close to it.

yes. this is a conflict between old business mngt and new.

i’ve read many ( not all) of the posts and see a pattern. those in an industry or born long enough ago can’t seem to get the command control mentality out of their business model.

[...] Digg Surrenders to Mob – To say what happened today on Digg was a â��user revoltâ�� is an understatement. [...]

Regarding Mr. Connor’s observation, that he sees a pattern, that “those in an industry or born long enough ago can’t seem to get the command control mentality out of their business model.”

I do think that for many of us, the longer we are out of diapers and training pants, and the more years we have under our belts working long, hard, honest hours each day … the more we appreciate and are grateful for what we have, and the more we respect the rights and property of others.

“the more we appreciate and are grateful for what we have, and the more we respect the rights and property of others.”

BS. The longer we’ve worked to create real value for other people, the better we know when someone else does not.

DRM does not create real value for anyone.

ron connor

I find responses like your rather annoying. There have been some well-reasoned arguments supporting digg’s original actions, and your response is essentially “you don’t get it.” This isn’t about old people who don’t understand this new fangled Internet. If all of the commenters here crying that “the people” built digg were right, then there would be nothing at risk, would there? None of those people who “built” digg have a dime invested in it. Talking about getting the “command control mentality out of their business model” ignores the fact that digg’s business model didn’t get rid of the command control mentality, either. If digg goes under, people will lose money, but it won’t be the people who “built” it. Hearing people say that they somehow “control” digg while other people foot the bills is like listening to a trust fund baby bragging how independent he is.

[...] Arrington pointed out that even “Digg didn’t fully understand the power of its community” and Thomas Schmitz likened the Digg revolution to the situation in [...]

[...] Kevin Rose μίλησε πριν λίγες ώρες στο Beet TV για τον εφιάλτη που έζησαν στο Digg. Στο πρόσωπό του μπορείς να διακρίνεις τα όσε πέρασε [...]

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Digg والانحناء امام العاصفة…..

في حادثة غريبة اوضحت للجميع من له اليد العليا في عالم الوب 2.0 ، ثار المستخدمين في موقع Digg ليفرضوا ما يريدون على الموقع وادارته، بدأ الموضوع …

[...] Digg valdžia kapituliavo. Tarnybos įkūrėjas Kevin Rose parašė viešą laišką, kuriame pažadėjo daugiau informacijos [...]

I’m flashing back to the violent 1999 World Trade Organization protests in Seattle. One dread locked, drum banging ‘protestor’ (anarchist) – no doubt fresh off a Starbucks window smashing spree – told reporters “Property is a crime. No one owns anything.”

Note to Digg CEO: Perhaps you should name the Digg community co-CEO, and all business decisions have to be voted on before implementation.

Note to all kindergarten teachers …

ChrisO, I find your response rather annoying. The fact that people/vc’s/etc invested money in a ‘non-tangible’ company that is built off of an online community does not make digg’s users more responsible or culpable.

If digg screws up or does something their community does not like the last thing I think they need to say, “what about those vc’s who might lose money if we react like this?” Those vc’s [normally] could care less about those users except to make more money off them. The digg users policed the community as they saw fit. Now you can argue that they did it wrong but to want them to care about the people who will lose money if digg goes under is ridiculous. Those same people/investors who would try to get every ounce of blood from that user’s stone that they could. Heck if they thought they could charge [more] money for digg you and I both know they would.

I like something a friend of mine said [who has been a part of building many social networking sites], “…at the end of the day, any community site with millions of users is effectively at the mercy of it users, not just for page views but for “good behavior”…”

I do not think you can love those users when they are ‘good’ and making you money and then try to scold and distance yourself from them when they act in a manner that you do not want them too.

Regardless of what you think about whether or not the ‘mob’ was in the right, the simple fact remains: Digg certainly did not have to give in to them. The pressure was undoubtedly intense, but they still could have made the choice to ban each and every user who decided to post the key. They did not. Why? Because sites like Digg are designed to reward ‘mob’ behavior. They nurture the ‘mob’ and promote the ‘mob’, all so they can profit off the ‘mob’. They ignore the ‘mob’, right or wrong, and they fail as a business. You don’t betray your market if you’re interested in survival. There are no ethics involved in such a decision. This is simple capitalism, people.

By the way, I write ‘mob’ with quotes because I find it dismissive. As if all Digg users who participated in the discussed event are brainless followers with no genuine concern or motive. I haven’t personally decided how I feel about all this, but I do know I’m disgusted by comments that do little more than name-call. Obviously, the activity over at Digg wasn’t just the work of immature and unemployed virgins who have nothing better to do than cause trouble for no reason. There are many issues here, including the very important one of what it means when a site claims to be ‘social’ or ‘democratic’, especially if said site does so as a for-profit entity. Accordingly, I see this as far more than a discussion about whether or not Digg or its users were right or wrong to act as they did: it is a rare philosophical moment in which the very nature of the format is revealed.

[...] (sorry, bad pun..) an e-revolution. You can find out the intricate details of this story at techcrunch and the digg blog. For the lazy readers here, essentially the gist of it was that someone [...]

[...] in all of this was ignored by the press, but picked up by more perceptive folks like Ed Felten and Michael Arrington: that the Digg community is clearly in control over what happens on the site. In the past few [...]

[...] Digg Surrenders to Mob: To say what happened today on Digg was a “user revolt” is an understatement. The Digg team deleted a story that linked to the decryption key for HD DVDs after receiving a take down demand and all hell broke loose. More stories appeared and were deleted, and users posting the stories were suspended. [...]

[...] Τι έγινε την Πρωτομαγιά; Κάτι με τους εργάτες στο Σικάγο; Όχι.Έγινε επανάσταση στο Digg. Με λίγα λόγια: κάποιος χρήστης καταχώρησε μια ιστορία με σύνδεσμο προς ιστοσελίδα που περιείχε  κλειδί αποκρυπτογράφησης για HD DVD. Η εταιρεία πίσω από το Digg, μετά από παράπονα της θιγόμενης εταιρείας, την τεχνολογία της οποία καταστρατηγούσε ο κωδικός, έσβησε τη σχετική αναφορά. Αυτό ήταν και ο σπινθήρας για να ανάψει η φωτιά. Η ιστορία εμφανίστηκε γρήγορα κι από άλλους χρήστες. Σβήστηκαν κι αυτές οι ιστορίες και μπλοκαρίστηκαν οι λογαριασμοί των χρηστών. Και τότε έγινε επανάσταση: Γιατί οι θυμωμένοι χρήστες κατέκλυσαν με τόσες καταχωρήσεις το digg για το ίδιο θέμα, που αδυνατούσαν να διαγράψουν και τελικά οδηγήθηκαν  σε παράδοση.Λεπτομέρειες εδώ. [...]

[...] – A comunidade de usuários do Digg fica revoltada.“Ataca” o site e enche o mesmo com links para a sequência de números. Em certo momento, a página inicial do Digg fica [...]

Digg should keep there ‘dark tipper’ on a leash…

Yesterday Digg was a sea of code with thousands of Diggers launching a full scale revolt on the website due to a decision to delete the HD-DVD code articles that were being shown on the Digg website (see the TechCrunch and New York Times coverage for m…

[...] the story is that an article was submitted that had an illegal decription key for HD DVDs.  The article got [...]

[...] – A comunidade de usuários do Digg fica revoltada.“Ataca” o site e enche o mesmo com links para a sequência de números. Em certo momento, a página inicial do Digg fica [...]

[...] bez�glich des Keys. Rein rechtlich k�nnte das nun aber f�r Digg problematisch werden. Quelle : Digg Surrenders to Mob [...]

Digg Surrenders to Mob…

“Today was a difficult day for us. We had to decide whether to remove stories containing a single code based on a cease and desist declaration. We had to make a call, and in our desire to avoid a scenario…

AS

I take your point, but I don’t believe I ever said that digg’s users should care about the company’s investors. My point was that it’s easy to cavalierly dismiss the fact that digg management has to care about its investors. True, the health of the investors isn’t the users’ concern. But it’s rather silly to demand that it shouldn’t be a concern for company management, either.

Couldn’t digg have just posted that they got a letter, and then added some code to the submission engine not allowing a submission of anything mentioning the hd-dvd code?

They easily could have just looked for the code on the page of the submission, and not allowed it to be submitted.

[...] grande assunto na internet ontem foi a “revolução” feita pelos usuários do Digg, revoltados por um ato de censura da [...]

[...] in all of this was ignored by the press, but picked up by more perceptive folks like Ed Felten and Michael Arrington: that the Digg community is clearly in control over what happens on the site. In the past few [...]

Mob is taking over Digg – Fifteen men on a dead man’s chest Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum ……

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One unstated concern is that of HD-DVD. How will this impact that product? They ultimately need the support of the MPAA in their competition with Blu-Ray. If HD-DVD is the format known to be universally crackable, poof, a billion dollar business is gone.

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This is like sitting ringside in a boxing match that is about to begin. This should be fun if it drags out. Imagine how much attention this C&D order brought to this subject. Wow.

Funny how in an effort to stop the spread of this info they unleashed the full power of Digg and now millions of people now know about this that otherwise wouldn’t have noticed.

I got a C&D order for telling the truth about myspaceguardian a few weeks ago on my crappy blog. Makes me want to put the post back up.

[...] a un lado los mobs, hay muchos otros ejemplos del “poder de las masas” en Internet: Digg lo ha vivido y en Twitter ha sido habitual ver pequeñas “conspiraciones” de los usuarios para [...]

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This post is much more Crunch network style than the very poor one on the issue on CrunchGear (not that you wrote it or anything, but still).

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[...] company is famous for listening to its hard core fanatical users. In 2007, for example, Kevin Rose surrendered to a mob of Digg users who were upset that Digg was blocking stories publishing the decryption key for HD DVDs. He wrote: [...]