NYTimes launches MyTimes, a weak RSS play

Tuesday, July 11th, 2006

NYTimes.com has launched a limited beta of a personalized news site called MyTimes.com (screenshots via PaidContent), an RSS play that looks more like MyYahoo than it does the recent Newsgator partnerships with MyUSAToday and MyNewsweek. Unlike in those services, it does not appear that users can add sources from outside the recommended feeds to their MyTimes page. If that’s the case then it’s a real shame – I think that the practice of major media companies offering what are effectively branded RSS readers with editorial control over a default OPML file is better than this tame use of RSS. (Update: this may not be the case, but I still don’t care for the format of this service for the reasons below.)

PaidContent reports that MyTimes is currently limited to 5,000 users who have already expressed interest but will be opened for public use later. RSS founding father Dave Winer says he wants to do a seminar on how to design interfaces for RSS readers.

It’s hard to know for sure how this will work until it’s open for use; but when only a few of the most recent items in a limited number of feeds can be viewed then popular adoption of RSS is gained at the loss of huge functionality. I love RSS and feel really ambivalent about things like this. Yes RSS enables widgets (even MyTimes calls them that) but it can do a whole lot more. Even if the MyUSAToday and MyNewsweek sites are a little clunky and not as pretty, they are really useful for serious reading. The ability to add your own sources is key, impress me with the platform and insight of your community editors. Enabling a river of news means that readers can view items according to what’s most recent across all sources – that’s key because once you’ve selected your sources then the time that individual items appear can become more important than which source they came from. Displaying news like a field of discrete building blocks is a crude way to relate to a just-in-time world. Widgets are great for many things, but don’t tell me to view the whole world’s news through them.

Here’s more on Newsgator’s vision for RSS. Isn’t it ironic that the NYTimes is offering a more sterile RSS experience than USAToday?

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  • http://scobleizer.com Robert Scoble

    I recorded the entire session and will have it up at about 9 a.m. Pacific Time at http://scobleizer.blip.tv (there are six pieces so I can get the whole thing up on HD video).

  • http://www.Holistic-Show.com Andrea Tannouri

    I loved reading this article, so rich with imagery! =) Thank you. @AndreaTannouri the @HolisticMamma

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Landon_Massey/1176934218 Landon Massey

    I am a new fan (of yours). Beautifully written in a way that I didn’t know you could write. Artful, technological prose.

  • http://www.eflorenzano.com/ Eric Florenzano

    This article makes very little sense.

  • http://scobleizer.com Robert Scoble

    Eric: here’s the transcription:

    New friendfeed coming in the morning at 9 a.m. Pacific Time.

    It’s new.

    Shiny.

    And takes the microblogging world forward in a compelling new way.

  • http://mikepower.net Mike Power

    What an overblown, florid, self-indulgent piece of hyperbolic BS!

  • http://www.millardbaker.com Millard Baker

    The new Friendfeed system goes online on April 6, 2009 at 9:00am PDT. Friendfeed begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14am PDT, April 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug…

  • http://maheshcr.com/blog Mahesh CR

    “I dive in and swim in the current, swooping from swirl to eddy, then into direct communication and back to the world I’ve left behind for a moment. ”

    That was a beautiful sentence, captures the essence like no technical spec ever can.

    And you make a wonderful point about the embargo, never heard it being spoken of that way.

    Wonderful post….thanks!

  • Melinda Saunders

    FriendFeed is already yesterday’s news.

    Robert I expect you will move onto the next thing by the pm.

    Will be hard to get the attention of the mainstream away from Twitter. Will they change their name to something cool???

  • http://www.czerniec.com/ Mark Czerniec

    I am reminded of Mischke: http://bit.ly/IT6ob

  • Justin

    I have no idea what any of this article means. It makes no sense.

  • http://p0ps.tumblr.com p0ps

    Standing by, on the ready, T minus 5 hrs and counting…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fred_Grott/592318318 Fred Grott

    I am wondering when 75% of access to twitter and friend feed come from mobile smartphones that have web browsers who this new twitter real-time bus will affect LBS consumer mobile applications.

    Seems to me that the Mobile Hybrid solution of using one mobile framework such as rhomobile to allow app to be dev using web code while still being able to access gps might be the best play for some twitter like service start ups.

    I think the next Twitter if there is such a thing will be integrated with GPS/LBS.

  • Gerry Orkin

    The-next-big-thing is coming at us today, apparently, and the thing after that will come at us in a few months, and the one after that in a few weeks, and the time between each next-big-thing will keep decreasing, until there is a next-big-thing coming at us about as fast as microblog posts come at us now. And I’m exhausted already.

  • Tim F.

    Ouch! Even Gillmor doesn’t think Scoble is a journalist or a technologist.

  • http://pauljacobson.org Paul Jacobson

    Brilliant Scoble, you just made my afternoon!

  • Kevin C.

    Wow Mr. Gillmor, I’ll second the comment that I didn’t know you could write like that. Very well done and inspired. You could write excellent mystery novels (this is a complement). And thank goodness somebody else remembers The Beatles! Check out “Revolution Take 20″. – kc

  • http://www.modernbizzle.com Ryan Boyle

    Steve Gilmor on Techmeme? What is this? “Only the beginning” indeed!

  • http://www.umpcportal.com Steve ‘Chippy’ Paine

    Is it going to help or hinder those of us that use Microblogging in a mobile way? To we need even more powerful devices with even bigger screens?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne_Schulz/531173044 Wayne Schulz

    Wait, I thought Techcrunch no longer honored embargoes….

    http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/17/death-to-the-embargo/

  • http://www.onemorebite-weightloss.com Kathryn @ One More Bite

    I too need more to make sense of this post. It’s beautifully written indeed, but where’s the beef? What on earth does it mean? Where’s my link to more…

    You’ve succeeded in creating curiosity and I’m anxious to figure it out, so all-in-all, brilliant post indeed.

  • http://postrank.com Jim Murphy – PostRank

    Heh, that’s what I got out of it too. :)

  • http://postrank.com Jim Murphy – PostRank

    So what, Steve is using ghost writers recruited from the pool of unemployed Bush administration speech writers?

  • Keith Le Mon

    Unreadable and self-indulgent nonsense once again from Steve Gillmor.

  • Dave

    Wrong. It is an awful article. It is very unclear and vague. Can anyone translate this rubbish into a plain English?

  • http://www.cannerycasinoandhotel.net/ CanneryCasinoAndHotel

    yeah me too.

  • http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures Michael Krigsman

    Aside from baroque loveliness, why exactly is this announcement important?

  • http://www.danielbru.com Daniel Brusilovsky

    I’ve been experimenting on how to keep Twitter and Facebook separate, but Scoble’s twitter stream is basically FriendFeed now, and I don’t want that to happen with my stream. I’m actually excited to see what FriendFeed is going to offer! T-1.5 hrs!

  • Boris Thomson

    Thanks. Makes much more sense.

  • http://atlaseffect.blogspot.com Doug

    The whole point of communication is to deliver a message. You sir, failed.

  • GregA

    Ok I just listened to several different versions of Get Back by the Beatles, and there was no trilling.

    You guys here at tech crunch dont actually have any fact checkers do you?

  • http://www.carloslorenzo.net Carlos Lorenzo

    Thanks Robert for the reminder about when and where the new release will appear. I was getting lost in the Warholian hyperbole. It was a nice reading any way :)

  • http://www.newmexicopowerball.org/ NewMexicoPowerball

    Thanks for the announce.

  • http://unhub.com/patrickboegel Patrick Boegel

    I feel like I just watched the final episode of Battlestar Galactica with the Beatles playing Dark Side of the Moon as the soundtrack while they were watching the Wizard of Oz.

    But on that note, I can’t wait to see what this wormhole all means.

  • http://mindboosternoori.blogspot.com Mind Booster Noori

    Scoble: it *sucks* to be pointed to a link that starts a video and spitting sound to my headphones without having to press “start”. kktnxbye

  • Jamie Thomson

    Agreed. I’m afraid Steve’s brain operates on a higher plane to mine. I haven’t a clue what he’s talking about.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/JJ_Toothman/714547056 J.J. Toothman

    What a fantastic post. Fairly sure this is the first time I’ve read a tech related blog post that included references to The Beatles Apple rooftop “last show.” Well done.

  • dasein

    Steve Gillmor needs an editor.

    This is a windy and pretentious posting for something about which we know nothing. An editor would moderate the writer’s ego and need to pee first on the fire hydrant.

  • http://roughtype.com Nick Carr

    Steve, Lovely fan dance. But didn’t the raised lettering on the white cover herald a moment of dissolution, the instant when the utopian dream turned into all-too-human bickering and recrimination? Everything afterwards, Beatleswise, was kind of a letdown, wasn’t it? Nick

  • avi

    W T F is he talking about can someone translate this piece of BS into English?

  • Hmmm

    Rubish. This artcle is complete rubbish.

  • http://hypocrite.com ponocciho

    i remember reading an arrington-impassioned case for saying screw the embargos not too long ago. why the change of heart?

  • mahalo bruddah

    is this a belated April Fools post?

    remember that magical thing called Worldwide Telescope that Scoble said “made me cry”?

    Ha. You guys need to get your head out of Google’s cloud….

  • hightimes

    Groovy shit – but i wonder what this will mean to the quasi-real time (neartime) ecology currently tethered to twitter. Could memes evolve from loosely-coupled eddies of free flowing information and grow into larger whirlpools of semisynergistic distributed strands of structured data?

    Will stay posted…

  • Wayne Robinson

    Wow, looks like this blog has gone down hill since Michael stopped writing.

    For a moment there I thought it was some type of automatically created for FriendFeed.

    Maybe a point would be nice, or a reference to exactly how the new FriendFeed works/looks? How about commentary on the author’s thoughts about microblogging rather than all this waffle that goes nowhere. I think I’ve seen less backtracks and turnarounds in a Joel Splotsky post.

  • http://sco.tt Scott Yates

    I didn’t love reading this article, I didn’t know what the hell he was talking about.

    And besides, Arrington made it very clear that embargos are crap, and should never be respected.

    Just tell us what the heck you know! Stop trying to be an artist!

  • chris

    I thinks scoble is the only person who uses friendfeed

  • rod

    As usual, garbage. This is a clear example of someone thinking they are more qualified to do their job than they are.

    How do you have an article on a new friendfeed which mentions the competion (twitter) more times than the company you’re touting? How do you write an article on a subject which has no context for those reading to understand?

    I’ll tell you what this means for the “social media community and by extension enterprise computing”… absolutely nothing until at least 12PM EST. Even then I doubt it’ll be of any benefit.

  • dasein

    ‘Waffle’ is too kind.

    This post should be entered in one of the bad-writing contests. It could be a contender.

    Seriously, this is indulgent writing at nearly its worst.

  • dasein

    Now that we’ve read Leena Rao’s posting about the FriendFeed UI changes, writing like this…

    “We’re seeing a new Beatles emerging in this new morning of creativity, a series of devices and software constructs that empower us with both the personal meaning of our lives and the intuitive combinations of serendipity and found material and the sturdiness that only rigorous practice brings. The ideas and sculpture, the rendering of this supple brine, we’ll stand in awe of it as it is polished to a sparkling sheen.”

    …is sheer rubbish and peer-preening.

  • http://www.rajajasti.com/2009/04/06/imagine-techcrunch-version/ Imagine: techcrunch version « Raja Jasti’s Blog – Renaissance Thinking

    [...] Steve gilmore echoes that in his post. [...]

  • J

    Exactly what I thought. TechCrunch, bad at obeying their own rules.

  • PVDude

    I read this post in awe of the beauty of the web and the surreal talent of the writer. By the middle of the post, I wept openly. Then I choked my dog for not being as flowery a writer as this guy.

    How I long for a service that can capture the ethereal moment when the dog’s essence passed from his lungs, through my hands, to eternity — an eternity none of us knows yet all of us possesses. Perhaps if Friendfeed 2.0 had existed just minutes before my eyes grazed the supple prose of this nurturing post, I would have found sweet release in the delicate flower of their new-age tweet. And my sweet partner pooch would still grace the contours of our gentle and violent earth.

    Oh well. Off to the pet store for a replacement.

  • Stephan Tual

    Hahaha this is the worst article I’ve ever read in my life – how old is the writer though? If he’s less than 12 we’ll give him a break.

  • HappyHamster

    “i remember reading an arrington-impassioned case for saying screw the embargos not too long ago. why the change of heart?”

    Right hand not talking to the left.

  • http://www.none.com Phil

    I dislike the pros of this article. very annoying.

  • Eric

    This is one of Gillmor’s better efforts. The gap I have trouble jumping over is the ??? step where we somehow aggregate 140-character tweets into a wondrous form of ant-colony insight.

    The irony of the Gillmor post is that it is precisely this sort of communication that couldn’t possibly be enhanced or augmented by a cloud of tweets.

  • STUPIDSTUPIDSTUPID

    This was the cheesiest piece of trite that has ever been posted on this site. What a load of crap.

  • Matt Z

    I thought TechCrunch has sworn off all embargoes?

  • Arsen

    Indeed of the 2 crowds the poets and the efficient communicators, I stick with the latest.
    anyway it may still be true that sthg interesting is appearing just… now. Agree with Eric: irony has that Gillmor litterary style goes against hard rigourous discipline of short & to the point.
    Remember Mark Twain “sorry for this long letter I did not have [/take] time to write you a short one”.

  • peterl

    I’m not sure I get what you (or Steve for that matter) mean – but I think Steve was just saying that he’s really excited about a friendfeed redesign. I don’t know where you get “semi-structured distributed data” from.

  • Paul P

    Steve

    Did you just seriously compare a website user interface iteration to a “Kennedy press conference”?!?!

  • William Todd

    I thought Tom Wolfe had written this.

    So rich in … well, something.

    My favorite riff: “the incredible rhythm trills of Lennon on the roof in Get Back.”

  • bman

    “15 journalists, technologists, and Robert Scoble”..

    does this mean Scoble is neither a journalist nor a technologist?

  • chloe

    i hate gillmor’s articles.
    please make it stop. it makes me want to avoid TC.

  • http://ChannelFlip.com Wil Harris

    This is a great ripping apart of Steve’s guff.

    http://www.bit-tech.net/blog/2009/04/06/new-friendfeed-is-coming-its-the-future/

    By a far more talented writer.

  • http://www.rickwebb.net Rick Webb

    My thought as well. I was hoping someone was going to mention that.

  • http://www.rickwebb.net Rick Webb

    Haha. That was my favorite part of the article. Nice subtle dig!

  • http://www.human-dog.com Chris Weagel

    My father, along with millions of others, is on the verge of losing a pension he’s worked his entire life for and you imbeciles are erupting over a slightly newer way to tell your friends you have no life.

  • http://technicnews.com/state-of-the-enterprise-market-slow-and-unsteady/ Technic News » State of the Enterprise Market– Slow and Unsteady

    [...] read with some surprise Steve Gillmor’s grand poetic soliloquy this morning on the revolutionary effect the new Friendfeed design would have on enterprise [...]

  • http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2009/04/06/why-am-i-pimping-friendfeed/ Why am I pimping FriendFeed? » odd time signatures

    [...] am pimping FriendFeed because they have just rolled out a revolution. And I like revolution. I especially like revolution that makes Twitter sit up and take notice. If [...]

  • http://www.geeksmeme.co.cc/?p=16564 Geeks meme » State of the Enterprise Market– Slow and Unsteady

    [...] read with some surprise Steve Gillmor’s grand poetic soliloquy this morning on the revolutionary effect the new Friendfeed design would have on enterprise [...]

  • max

    completely unreadable nonsense.

  • http://tech.foxtergroup.com/2009/04/state-of-the-enterprise-market-slow-and-unsteady/ State of the Enterprise Market: Slow and Unsteady | Tech Group

    [...] read with some surprise Steve Gillmor’s grand poetic soliloquy this morning on the revolutionary effect the new Friendfeed design would have on enterprise [...]

  • JH

    I’ll bet you meant “disillusion”, as in “I was disillusioned by …”.

    “Dissolution” means “being dissolved”, which could work but it’s a stretch.

  • http://www.ioncorporation.com/blog Mark Ivey

    Cool man, but what is Steve smoking? How did Scoble emerge as Techcrunch translater?

  • http://www.TradingGoddess.com @TradingGoddess

    Touché, Chris Weagel.

  • Wayne Robinson

    Interestingly, my comment should have read “some type of automatically created *s p a m* created for FriendFeed”, it appears that the comment system removes that naughty(???) word.

  • http://www.ajkeen.com Andrew Keen

    this article is marvelous — infinitely better than Friendfeed.

  • http://dozykraut.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/twitterati-in-friendfeeding-frenzy/ Twitterati in FriendFeeding Frenzy « The Dozy Kraut

    [...] at Techcrunchit Steve Gillmor waxes rhapsodic with a deluge of ill considered metaphors that he must have snapped [...]

  • swag

    Steve, you’re presuming people are flocking to the FriendFeed model.

    They’re not.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan_Douthit/623454561 Ryan Douthit

    I would have been more impressed with a haiku.

  • http://www.stephenpickering.com/?p=165 Stephen Pickering » Blog Archive » FriendFeed Is In Danger of Becoming the Coolest App Everyone Uses

    [...] first thing I read this morning was Steve Gillmor’s piece in TechCrunch where he swooned so romantically, his writing was so fantastically beautiful, all I could think of [...]

  • http://thewiredjester.co.uk/2009/04/07/on-steve-gillmor-friendfeed-2-and-inhaling-the-hype/ On Steve Gillmor, FriendFeed 2 and inhaling the hype « The Wired Jester

    [...] 7, 2009 · No Comments Steve Gillmor’s Techcrunch post on the revamped FriendFeed was so incredible that I felt it needed a little commentary. A [...]

  • http://www.trafficspaces.com Niyi

    Hi Steve,

    Interesting writing style. Very much departed from that of other writers on this blog.

    However, it is clear that some of your readers may not know that “fourth estate” in “the common concerns expressed about the permanent loss and funding of the fourth estate” refers to “the fourth estate of the realm” i.e. journalists/press. It is antiquated English, after all.

    That aside, I reckon this paragraph really threw a lot of people off

    “What’s exhilirating is that the vague assumptions, arrogant exploits, twinkling of an ephemeral joke, they all are being ratified in a swirl of innovation that is dazzling in its ability to masquerade as superficial and childish. How strange it is to see major corporations act like teenagers while jousting for position in the transition. The dynamics of cloud computing have unleashed a paroxysm of hardball…”

    You have to understand that TC is a quick-read for several people and not bed-time reading. Some people just don’t have time to read articles twice to understand the meaning, hence the vitriol spouted in the comments.

    Don’t take it personal. Just take the advice on board

    Niyi

  • http://www.chrisbrogan.com/a-hundred-twitters-a-thousand/ A Hundred Twitters- A Thousand | chrisbrogan.com

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  • http://bittermancircle.com Aron Michalski

    We already do need more powerful devices with better memory management…

  • http://bittermancircle.com Aron Michalski

    The Friendfeed IM interface is the closest mobile experience I’ve had to the old Twitter realtime IM with Track and the easiest to send threaded comments while on the move.

  • Oblaw

    This is a terribly written article, no matter which way you look at it (as tech news or poetry — you pick). What a bunch of self-indulgent claptrap.

  • http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/social-media-adoption-in-the-enterprise/ SmoothSpan Blog

    Social Media Adoption in the Enterprise…

    Steve Gilmore’s post on the new FriendFeed UI has shaken loose a variety of responses.  Personally, I did not care for the post because it didn’t convey much information.  Rather, it is a breathless and somewhat florid love letter to Twitte…

  • http://bittermancircle.com Aron Michalski

    Yeah, I guess poetry has no purpose, Music is too complicated, Art is basically meaningless self indulgent non-representational scribbling and photography should be limited to mugshots. Just read the crawl at the bottom of the screen and you will be fed a nugget of semi-digestible “truth” and you can get back to American Idol. Shut your brains off and climb back into your SUV. Block letters are great for road signs; some other paths are better served by different maps.

  • http://www.communityguy.com/2290/the-power-of-the-one/ Community Guy – Jake McKee » Blog Archive » The Power of The One

    [...] covers a private viewing of the new FriendFeed. Notice anything funny in the first line of their article: On Friday the [...]

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    No. Not really.

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  • http://www.borthwick.com/weblog/2009/04/19/699/ THINK / Musings» Blog Archive

    [...] We’re seeing a new Beatles emerging in this new morning of creativity, a series of devices and software constructs that empower us with both the personal meaning of our lives and the intuitive combinations of serendipity and found material and the sturdiness that only rigorous practice brings. The ideas and sculpture, the rendering of this supple brine, we’ll stand in awe of it as it is polished to a sparkling sheen. (full article here) [...]

  • http://resourcelog.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/the-rise-of-social-distribution-networks/ The Rise Of Social Distribution Networks « Reading

    [...] We’re seeing a new Beatles emerging in this new morning of creativity, a series of devices and software constructs that empower us with both the personal meaning of our lives and the intuitive combinations of serendipity and found material and the sturdiness that only rigorous practice brings. The ideas and sculpture, the rendering of this supple brine, we’ll stand in awe of it as it is polished to a sparkling sheen. (full article here) [...]

  • http://safespacelab.com emf testing

    This might signal the end of Web 2.0 and the start of the next phase. RSS was one of the backbones of Web 2.0 and twitter (micromessaging) could be the backbone of the next phase.

  • http://www.appspatrol.com iPhone Apps Review

    I believe in it, but I’d like to see the benefits of FriendFeed in 140 characters or fewer.

  • http://www.newcommbiz.com/best-blog-quote-ever-via-steve-gillmor/ New Comm Biz » Best Blog Quote Ever via Steve Gillmor

    [...] Steve Gillmor has a way with words. The article is worth reading just for Steve’s near poetic writing style. Oh yeah and if you’re interested in Steve take on the new FriendFeed redesign then you should also read it. Only the Beginning [...]

  • http://techtownnc.com/2009/07/10/twitter_digg/ Twitter > digg?

    [...] realizing they’re voting so it’s easy enough to power a digg type site with twiter. As Gillmor further rambled, capturing the moment via twitter could turn into something beautiful and organic. That should be [...]

  • http://www.insegment.com Boston SEO

    What is going on here? Let’s keep the comments on topic, kids.

  • http://www.appspatrol.com iPhone Application Review

    Twitter has moved past / consumed RSS? Aren’t they still serving different markets? I get my actual news through RSS, and updates about my friends from Twitter.

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