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	<title>Comments on: The e-G8 talks of a new industrial revolution &#8211; but where are the steam engines?</title>
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		<title>By: Thibaud Jurquet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thibaud Jurquet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 15:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Allroght i&#039;m a bit late... 

Anyways we are kind of freaked out about this because Sarkozy has already tried to do this in France, by implementing laws that allow a user&#039;s web connection to be disconnected, or a website to be blocked without involving a judge. 
Oh, and he said so in his speech at the opening of the conference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allroght i&#8217;m a bit late&#8230; </p>
<p>Anyways we are kind of freaked out about this because Sarkozy has already tried to do this in France, by implementing laws that allow a user&#8217;s web connection to be disconnected, or a website to be blocked without involving a judge. <br />
Oh, and he said so in his speech at the opening of the conference.</p>
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		<title>By: The e-G8 Talks Of A New Industrial Revolution ? But Where Are The Steam Engines? &#124; Family Vacations Sun</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 00:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jackpetitpied</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackpetitpied]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand why everybody was so freaked out about Sarkozy&#039;s possible grab on the Internet.
There is an interesting article here about a rather positive and objective view about the outcomes of the Eg8: http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/opinion/1072053/mt-special-learned-weeks-eg8/ ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why everybody was so freaked out about Sarkozy&#8217;s possible grab on the Internet.<br />
There is an interesting article here about a rather positive and objective view about the outcomes of the Eg8: http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/opinion/1072053/mt-special-learned-weeks-eg8/ </p>
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		<title>By: Jackpetitpied</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412359</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackpetitpied]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand why everybody was so freaked out about Sarkozy&#039;s possible grab on the Internet.
There is an interesting article here about a rather positive and objective view about the outcomes of the Eg8: http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/opinion/1072053/mt-special-learned-weeks-eg8/ ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why everybody was so freaked out about Sarkozy&#8217;s possible grab on the Internet.<br />
There is an interesting article here about a rather positive and objective view about the outcomes of the Eg8: http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/opinion/1072053/mt-special-learned-weeks-eg8/ </p>
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		<title>By: The e-G8 Talks Of A New Industrial Revolution ? But Where Are The Steam Engines? &#124; kycokanir</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 06:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The e-G8 Talks Of A New Industrial Revolution ? But Where Are The Steam Engines? &#124; tutomonodeb</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 22:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alice Ward</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412355</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alice Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Technology is neutral, but the way it’s used is not.” Hint: The agenda here is about whether we can lock things down.

- Exactly. This is what the future has become. Since the knowledge about the web is not limited to a few people, there is a higher risk of being exposed! The Internet may seem to be floating but it&#039;s too powerful  - it can even make or break a country. Well, that may be a little exaggerated but you get the point.

Internet is helpful in today&#039;s generation but we still need to use it responsibly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology is neutral, but the way it’s used is not.” Hint: The agenda here is about whether we can lock things down.</p>
<p>- Exactly. This is what the future has become. Since the knowledge about the web is not limited to a few people, there is a higher risk of being exposed! The Internet may seem to be floating but it&#8217;s too powerful  &#8211; it can even make or break a country. Well, that may be a little exaggerated but you get the point.</p>
<p>Internet is helpful in today&#8217;s generation but we still need to use it responsibly.</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook, Google Moguls In Paris As Sarkozy Bids For Web Regulation &#8211; Forbes (blog) &#8211; Facebook Is Down</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Facebook, Google Moguls In Paris As Sarkozy Bids For Web Regulation &#8211; Forbes (blog) &#8211; Facebook Is Down]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 17:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Geeuru?</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412353</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geeuru?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Due to a combination of intelligent people not having children and
excessive breeding by less intelligent people, the world is full of
morons, with the exception of an elite few who work slavishly to keep
order. Sarkozy, who was a shrewd con man in his day, has a solution to
sell to sell the elite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to a combination of intelligent people not having children and<br />
excessive breeding by less intelligent people, the world is full of<br />
morons, with the exception of an elite few who work slavishly to keep<br />
order. Sarkozy, who was a shrewd con man in his day, has a solution to<br />
sell to sell the elite.</p>
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		<title>By: Georges</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412352</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is that it isn&#039;t only an &quot;Internet thing&quot; : politician&#039;s job is to pretend they can help by controlling everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that it isn&#8217;t only an &#8220;Internet thing&#8221; : politician&#8217;s job is to pretend they can help by controlling everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Georges</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Polls, hum, what can I say.....

Yes : they&#039;re totally accurate : remember April 2002
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))
BTW, French &quot;right&quot; is at the left of most of other country &quot;left&quot;, and voters change their mind every 5 minutes. Only one thing is stable : ALL the politics wants to &quot;control&quot; the Internet (and don&#039;t understand what it is) :-(((]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polls, hum, what can I say&#8230;..</p>
<p>Yes : they&#8217;re totally accurate : remember April 2002 <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ))))))))))))))))))))))))<br />
BTW, French &#8220;right&#8221; is at the left of most of other country &#8220;left&#8221;, and voters change their mind every 5 minutes. Only one thing is stable : ALL the politics wants to &#8220;control&#8221; the Internet (and don&#8217;t understand what it is) <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> ((</p>
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		<title>By: Thibaud Jurquet</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thibaud Jurquet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 14:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What bugs me the most is that ALL of the speakers of Plenary IV (Intellectual Property and the Culture Economy in the Digital Age) are big media players from majors, publishers, studios, ... just look at the list :
- Éditions Gallimard 
-20th Century Fox
- Minister of Culture &amp; Communication, France (HADOPI)
- Universal Music France
- Bertelsmann
- France Télévisions 

We all know where it&#039;s gonna end : they&#039;ll say that IP needs to be protected at all costs, DRM is a good thing...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bugs me the most is that ALL of the speakers of Plenary IV (Intellectual Property and the Culture Economy in the Digital Age) are big media players from majors, publishers, studios, &#8230; just look at the list :<br />
- Éditions Gallimard <br />
-20th Century Fox<br />
- Minister of Culture &amp; Communication, France (HADOPI)<br />
- Universal Music France<br />
- Bertelsmann<br />
- France Télévisions </p>
<p>We all know where it&#8217;s gonna end : they&#8217;ll say that IP needs to be protected at all costs, DRM is a good thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412348</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only agenda there is and ever was is &quot;helping people out of their money&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only agenda there is and ever was is &#8220;helping people out of their money&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Thibaud Jurquet</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412347</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thibaud Jurquet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not just among leftists. I voted for him in 2007, won&#039;t do that again. Things like HADOPI, LOPPSI or ACTA are sh*t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just among leftists. I voted for him in 2007, won&#8217;t do that again. Things like HADOPI, LOPPSI or ACTA are sh*t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Cedric T</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412346</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean Cedric T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then, accordingto recent polls, there is more leftiststhan others currently in France ;)
BTW... I&#039;m not leftist... I&#039;m democrat :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then, accordingto recent polls, there is more leftiststhan others currently in France <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
BTW&#8230; I&#8217;m not leftist&#8230; I&#8217;m democrat <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hadrien Raffalli</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hadrien Raffalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[totally agree with you for the french dinosaurs. They don&#039;t understand that they have to find new ways to do business and that technology is as culturally important as the content it displays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>totally agree with you for the french dinosaurs. They don&#8217;t understand that they have to find new ways to do business and that technology is as culturally important as the content it displays.</p>
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		<title>By: Georges</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412343</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;He even talked about radical transparency and the “dematerialisation” of information (perhaps he’s been watching Star Trek?)&quot; : in France, we use &quot;dematerialisation&quot; for &quot;digitalization&quot;.

But there is something really scarry in this &quot;e-G8&quot; :

Intellectual Property and the Culture Economy in the Digital Age
Antoine Gallimard (Chairman and CEO, Editions Gallimard),Jim Gianopulos,Frédéric Mitterrand (France’s Minister of Culture and Communication),Pascal Nègre (President and CEO, Universal Music France),Hartmut Ostrowski (Chairman &amp; CEO, Bertelsmann AG),Moderator: Bruno PatinoALL (yes : ALL) the participants are well known for their stone-age like ideas when it comes to &quot;intellectual property&quot; :-(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He even talked about radical transparency and the “dematerialisation” of information (perhaps he’s been watching Star Trek?)&#8221; : in France, we use &#8220;dematerialisation&#8221; for &#8220;digitalization&#8221;.</p>
<p>But there is something really scarry in this &#8220;e-G8&#8243; :</p>
<p>Intellectual Property and the Culture Economy in the Digital Age<br />
Antoine Gallimard (Chairman and CEO, Editions Gallimard),Jim Gianopulos,Frédéric Mitterrand (France’s Minister of Culture and Communication),Pascal Nègre (President and CEO, Universal Music France),Hartmut Ostrowski (Chairman &amp; CEO, Bertelsmann AG),Moderator: Bruno PatinoALL (yes : ALL) the participants are well known for their stone-age like ideas when it comes to &#8220;intellectual property&#8221; <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Georges</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412344</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;He even talked about radical transparency and the “dematerialisation” of information (perhaps he’s been watching Star Trek?)&quot; : in France, we use &quot;dematerialisation&quot; for &quot;digitalization&quot;.

But there is something really scarry in this &quot;e-G8&quot; :

Intellectual Property and the Culture Economy in the Digital Age
Antoine Gallimard (Chairman and CEO, Editions Gallimard),Jim Gianopulos,Frédéric Mitterrand (France’s Minister of Culture and Communication),Pascal Nègre (President and CEO, Universal Music France),Hartmut Ostrowski (Chairman &amp; CEO, Bertelsmann AG),Moderator: Bruno PatinoALL (yes : ALL) the participants are well known for their stone-age like ideas when it comes to &quot;intellectual property&quot; :-(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He even talked about radical transparency and the “dematerialisation” of information (perhaps he’s been watching Star Trek?)&#8221; : in France, we use &#8220;dematerialisation&#8221; for &#8220;digitalization&#8221;.</p>
<p>But there is something really scarry in this &#8220;e-G8&#8243; :</p>
<p>Intellectual Property and the Culture Economy in the Digital Age<br />
Antoine Gallimard (Chairman and CEO, Editions Gallimard),Jim Gianopulos,Frédéric Mitterrand (France’s Minister of Culture and Communication),Pascal Nègre (President and CEO, Universal Music France),Hartmut Ostrowski (Chairman &amp; CEO, Bertelsmann AG),Moderator: Bruno PatinoALL (yes : ALL) the participants are well known for their stone-age like ideas when it comes to &#8220;intellectual property&#8221; <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: People-oriented</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/the-e-g8-talks-of-a-new-industrial-revolution-but-where-are-the-steam-engines/#comment-412342</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[People-oriented]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 13:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But steam engines were built all over the world.&quot; - the logical analogy for the steam engines in your article, is: &#039;apps&#039; and &#039;blogs&#039;, rather than platforms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But steam engines were built all over the world.&#8221; &#8211; the logical analogy for the steam engines in your article, is: &#8216;apps&#8217; and &#8216;blogs&#8217;, rather than platforms.</p>
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		<title>By: Georges</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 13:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sarkozy is REALLY unpopular...... among leftists !
BTW I agree that DADVSI… HADOPI… LOPPSI… (etc.) are &quot;sh*t laws&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarkozy is REALLY unpopular&#8230;&#8230; among leftists !<br />
BTW I agree that DADVSI… HADOPI… LOPPSI… (etc.) are &#8220;sh*t laws&#8221;.</p>
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