Yelp’s CEO On Google: We Were Suprised…I Don’t Think It’s A Permanent Situation
Evelyn Rusli
Jul 31, 2010

Yelp’s CEO Jeremy Stoppelman deserves credit for trying to play nice with Google, even appearing onstage at the Social Currency CrunchUp with John Hanke, a Google VP of Product Management. As expected the tension was palpable, as Hanke and Stoppelman discussed Google Places and the goliath’s heavy reliance on Yelp’s content.

As an increasingly robust aggregator of local reviews, Google Places is turning into a formidable opponent. Several years ago, Google paid Yelp for access to their huge database of reviews; however, eventually Yelp terminated the deal. All was well until Google started crawling Yelp’s pages for unlicensed content to populate Google Places. Adding insult to injury, Google often pushes Yelp’s data to the bottom of its review areas, favoring instead licensed partners like Zagat. Oh, what a tangled web of reviews we weave.

Beyond the professional veneer, there’s no question that Stoppelman feels burned.

The recent developments, he says, were unexpected:

“Well I think we were surprised because we hadn’t participated in Place Pages over the years. Like we were in sort of the precursor to Place Pages back in something like 2006 and then we left because we weren’t really happy in the direction it was going and we thought OK we’ll just show up in organic results and everybody is still happy. And then yeah, we found our content was showing up there and it is ranked dead last right now. I don’t think that’s sort of a permanent situation from what we gather from talking to Google, they are sort of  headed in a new direction that which hopefully will be more positive.”

Yelp, of course, is not always the victim. The site has been criticized for ripping Foursquare’s techniques, with this year’s introduction of check-ins, leader boards, badges and the not-so-subtle “dukedom” honor. Now, Yelp is tiptoeing near Groupon’s turf, as it tests limited deals in cities like Sacramento. During our post-panel video interview, we got a chance to talk to Stoppelman about Google Places and Yelp’s budding rivalries with Foursquare and Groupon. See full video above— below are a couple key highlights:

On Check-Ins
-Android has been a particularly strong platform— the number of Yelp downloads grew 40% week over week for about a month. Now, its growing 15% week over week.

On Limited Sales
-Yelp will eventually roll out a product that will capitalize on its strength as a destination for time sensitive searches. “We have all this traffic, we have 35 million monthly visiting the site and so what could we do for people that are actually looking for a massage right now versus you know alerting them hey there’s this deal is available. So are there some interesting twists on just the Groupon model that we can apply because we’re Yelp.”

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  • http://www.BreakingNewsBlog.us BreakingNewsBlog.us

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    sorry, but…

    “You will be assimilated.”

    “Resistance is futile.”

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  • http://www.pegshot.com Christian Sterner

    Sorry to post feedback within the comments section, but as a heads up: TechCrunch videos stall on a specific frame and the audio continues. I’m on a Mac FF.

  • adama

    Keep the Evelyn Rusli interviews coming! She is definitely the best thing to happen to TC since its inception.

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    “You will be assimilated.”

    “Resistance is futile.”

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  • Loop

    Yelp vs Googlr = Kuwait vs Iraq
    Big greedy aggressive neighbour wants to invade oil-rich fields

  • Tyler Beerman

    Great interview, Evelyn Rusli is good money! Not sure why Yelp is trying to be so secretive…. They are acting like they have some big things brewing, c’mon Yelp you know you’re just going to copy or emulate what somebody else is doing….

    Wish there was more tc tv about younger startups lacking funding rather than innovation. Yelp is a super-sized startup with a lot of fat…. Let’s get some lean startups on the screen!

  • http://www.BreakingNewsBlog.us BreakingNewsBlog.us

    good luck Yelp

  • david

    yep, only interviews worth watching

  • les madras

    Majority of Yelp’s traffic comes from Google, so Stoppelman has to play nice. Pretty crazy not to sell to Google, since Yelp is completely at Google’s mercy. No hope of IPO.

  • Robert Zion

    Seriously, if Yelp was soo awesome, people will go to Yelp looking for reviews rather than goto Google. Frankly, what is the value of Yelp anyway, people will now write reviews in Google places.

  • Jonathan

    TechCrunch is fortunate to have Evelyn. Excellent interviews.

  • the hissy

    +2′s FTW.

  • http://borasky-research.net M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

    Oh pshaw! Twitter has places too – and sometimes they even are listed in *Twitter’s* place database. Who the heck needs multiple overlapping incorrect place databases, with or without reviews, checkins, mayorships/dukedoms/games, coupons/deals, etc.?

    One of these days, all the fear is going to get sucked out of the marketplace and the *merchants* are going to shut this con game down.Remember, it’s *free* to get listed in Google’s database! Having a good product or service and creating happy customers will grow your business faster than paying “advertisers”! *Quality* rules!

  • BlogReader

    Google’s turned from an innovator into a company that has to buy others for new ideas or just rips them off. It took longer for MSFT to burn out like this.

  • Rdx

    What exactly is Yelp’s innovation again? A site with reviews for local businesses, a couple of code monkeys can do that in a week. It is about starting early, when Yelp started, Google was working on search.

  • Flirt

    Yes, I love how she strategically brushed her hair aside to expose her neck line before asking the critical question “how many check-ins does yelp average per day.”

    ….yet stoppelman stayed the course! he’s seen that move before!

  • http://sfSurvey.com Wayne Lambright

    What will yelp do when they can’t lie or steal there way out of this Karma pit.

  • Robert Zion

    This is way better than inciting flame wars, (she is not that hot anyway)

  • http://hackingthevalley.com Douglas Putnam

    For one thing, they can always fall back on good old-fashioned extortion — http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/17/complaints-against-yelps-extortion-practices-grow-louder/

  • Jonathan

    It is a great move, and she is that hot.

  • Jonathan

    Yelp’s innovation was actually the way it cultivated the massive community, not the review system. Early on they built a fanatical community with hyper local group get-togethers and did it better than anyone else.

    The site got such momentum to begin with because of the Cult-of-Yelp in the beginning phase.

  • pret

    Most of us already predicted that the deal of Yelp and G would play out just any other acquisition google had in the past. Surprisingly, even with
    the generous ‘gift’ of 500 Million dollars presented by Goog, Yelp still found a way to turn it down. Why? http://2su.de/UL4

  • http://www.internetsearchoptimizer.in Srinivas Kumar

    all the best yelp

  • Jake

    Fuck Yelp. I’d rather have one company with everything integrated. Google is that. Yelp should’ve taken the money and jumped on board.

  • Jon Wu

    Useless, very short article filled with spelling mistakes and pictures of hot girls to get more views.

    Don’t click.

  • Russel

    Copying features isn’t the same as copying content. The former is called competition. The latter stealing.

  • http://marketmpb.blogspot.com Matt Blum

    I am surprised that Yelp turned it down…

    for a marketing blog that never turns anything down, check out

    http://marketmpb.blogspot.com

    matt

  • Me

    Spamming loser

  • http://vator.tv/company/Mylocatorcom MyLocator ™

    Innovation is overrated. How has google innovated search in the last 10 years? The Suggestions feature? What Is innovative about Twitter or facebook? The world wouldn’t notice if tech stopped innovating tomorrow. Integration of existing content is the final fronteir of tech innovation.

  • Waldo

    But the real question is…” Would Google continue to edit the reviews like Yelp currently does???” All my positive reviews are still flying high where as my negative reviews are (poof) magically gone…

    Sorry, but I do not, nor will I ever trust the site. Two bits is too much for the site.

  • Waldo

    Please don’t feed the tolls…

  • Jim Jones

    Don’t trust Yelp, they sell reviews and delete any “poor” and honest reviews.

  • http://www.freewebsitevalue.com/d/www.yelp.com Alen Marty

    Yelp has been top 250 sites in the world:
    http://www.freewebsitevalue.com/d/www.yelp.com

    It receives over 10 million unique targeted visitors a month? and they definitely has plenty of potential.

  • Rich

    Fuck yelp, fucking asshole scammers. They have A LOT of bad karma coming their way, and I am going enjoy watching them get it.

  • Ted

    Yelp!’s best days are behind it. They have rolled out few significant new features in the past three years. They have lost the trust of the users due to their slimy business practices (I personally have had negative reviews taken off when the business became an advertiser) and their rate of growth has slowed considerably. They were fools not to take Google’s offer. Soon they will be relegated to the dead pool along with CitySearch.

  • Rich

    they also put up fake poor reviews if you turn down for advertising.

  • http://www.yelpsucks.blogspot.com YelpSucks

    Poor Stoppelman…

    couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy

    extortion doesn’t pay my man.. that’s why google passed on the yelp deal..

    Yelp has jumped the shark and will be sold for pennies on the dollar…

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    hay alll

  • P. Kegley

    Damn Yelp! Many small businesses hate Yelp for the poor owner controls. A couple of users create biased negative reviews…their sniping quotes are pulled into algo search results!

    I hope Yelp gets crushed.

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