Video: Evernote CEO Phil Libin Shares Revenue Stats (And How To Make Freemium Work)
Jason Kincaid
May 28, 2010

Last week at the Founder Showcase, a quarterly event put on by Adeo Ressi’s TheFunded, Evernote CEO Phil Libin gave a presentation discussing some of the startup’s key revenue numbers and strategy. During his talk, Libin outlined some of the ingredients in making the freemium model work, and how long-term users actually become more valuable over time.

Evernote, for those who haven’t used it, is a great service for quickly storing and organizing ideas, photos, documents and other information that you encounter both online and in the real world. This is actually one of the secrets to the service’s success — as people add more of their content to the site over time, it becomes increasingly valuable to them. Libin has previously shared similar information during his mentorship at Ressi’s incubator The Founder Institute

Here are some of the main points Libin covered during his talk:

  • Sometimes people say “The best product doesn’t always win”, and are implying that you should focus on other areas, like marketing. In the Internet age, a good product can get the rest of that stuff (marketing, etc.) for free. So focus on that. And then charge for it.
  • A year ago Evernote was making most of its money from licensing its technology, but it focused on its premium plans ($5/month or $45/year) because that was more scalable. Now, premium subscriptions bring in around $300-400k a month, and licensing represents around $45k.
  • Evernote has 3.1 million cumulative users, and adds around 10k a day. Around 68k paying customers.
  • Users have grown more valuable over time. New users convert to premium at a rate of .5%.  But of the users that signed up two years ago and are still active, 20% have become paid customers.
  • This trend is important — most users quit quickly. But the ones that stay become much more likely to pay over time.
  • Evernote’s cost per user is around 9 cents per active user per month. It makes around 25 cents per user per month. The site reached break even a year and a half ago.
  • Entrepreneurs should aim to be making money on each new active user as soon as possible. Otherwise scaling just means you’re losing money faster, rather than earning it
  • We should note that Libin has previously discussed similar information, though the video provides more detail.

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  • Rob

    good for Evernote … good product – great timing !! It was one of the first apps I got the day I got my 3g

  • irewardchart

    Just can't thank Phil Libin enough for this presentation… very helpful, esp anyone who is somewhat connected to iPhone app biz.

  • Dee

    The only reason why Evernote has 3 million users is because there really isn't any competition, at least until now. I think it's a good idea but it has some serious usability issues. The most glaring problem is that you can't even create a notebook on their mobile apps and the devs say claim it's a design aspect. My friends don't care for it because it's too complicated to use when you only want to Jot down a quick note on the iPhone.

    I just recently learned about this new service called Springpad and it addresses almost every issue I have with Evernote.

  • bob

    and if you went to the Freemium Summit at the end of March you saw the same presentation months ago!

  • ron mexico

    Evernote is a good app but after awhile you start to notice its imperfections. I have use it on webos. There needs to be an offline version that has the option to update manually or automatically. Right now it slows everything down to a crawl. Oh and you can't select all in webos. You can copy/paste but trying to select all doesn't work.

  • Zivo

    Nice service and very educated presentation.
    But, very important, info is missing – Where are the marketing and acquisition costs?
    OK you have 3M+ registered, how much it costs you to have these users?
    These 9c/M doesn't include the acquisition costs. Although Evernote seems to have long customer "life cycle", if we add the acquisition cost to the equation, it's all new game.
    Still, nice numbers.

  • http://www.vlockbox.com Sanjay maharaj

    Phil Libin has done an excellent job in guiding Evernote to where it is today and where it is going in the future.

  • http://www.cibando.com Guk

    Smartest guy ever!

  • Joe Gold

    man vimeo sucks….keeps skipping on me.

  • browse

    Thanks for sharing. That was a fascinating talk.

  • http://www.aufkeinenkreativeschaos.com LutzVA

    great product picked up and realized by a great team!

  • http://twitter.com/FitJerk @FitJerk

    Did any of you tools that use Evernote bother to read the ULA? The product is decent but the fact that Evernote OWNS any piece of content you use their service for is retarded. Have a great product/business idea? Awesome, put it down using Evernote and it's not longer YOURS. It's technically theirs.

    Lame.

    Cant believe people aren't giving them heat for this shit.

  • dasein

    "This is actually one of the secrets to the service’s success — as people add more of their content to the site over time, it becomes increasingly valuable to them."

    They literally lock in your data and make it difficult to export, much less in import.

    It's a good strategy for making users stick with the product, but over the long term it is unfriendly.

  • http://shazzerspeak.blog-city.com Shazzer

    I think they would have even more paying customers if there was a tier between free and premium. I love the service and would gladly pay a couple bucks a month to be able to sync a few more file types and have offline access, but I don't need anything close to a 500mb monthly note allowance. $45 per year is a bit too spendy for the way I use it, but $25 would be a no-brainer.

  • inthewoods

    It's a cool product, but that's a lot of VC money ($25m) for a company with about a $4-5m revenue run rate. I think the issue that he doesn't address is this – ok – you got to 3m, and you're adding 10k a day or 300k/month. That's 3.6m a year (which is assuming there is no fall off in the curve which there probably would be) – or, converted, about 18,000 paying users which, at $5/month, is equal to around $90k/month or $1m/year in revenue. Obviously they may convert some of their older users into paying users as well – this doesn't take that into account.

    I'd be curious what their advertising dollars look like, because, on the face of it, this doesn't look like a VC-friendly application – love the apps, but it will take them 5 years to hit $10m in revenue. Looks to me like the VCs are betting the app, infrastructure and users will fetch a high multiple on a buyout. Maybe Google buys them if they want to get into the offline world, or maybe VMWare – can't see MSFT buying it (Groove anyone?), and Yahoo is once again not in the application space (selling off enterprise applications).

    I've worked for a company that has a similar model – the issue, for us, was that it became harder and harder to get new users because the pool for people interested in your application isn't infinite. Expanding internationally would obviously help (not sure if they're doing that).

  • inthewoods

    It's a cool product, but that's a lot of VC money ($25m) for a company with about a $4-5m revenue run rate. I think the issue that he doesn't address is this – ok – you got to 3m, and you're adding 10k a day or 300k/month. That's 3.6m a year (which is assuming there is no fall off in the curve which there probably would be) – or, converted, about 18,000 paying users which, at $5/month, is equal to around $90k/month or $1m/year in revenue. Obviously they may convert some of their older users into paying users as well – this doesn't take that into account.

  • http://www.meetingwave.com/alumninetworking jeb

    @FitJerk – I'd agree that's an issue if true (I haven't checked). Typically, such services only ask that they be granted a license to use your content to provide you the services. I think most users would be surprised if they were assigning the content they uploaded to Evernote.

    I saw Libin on a panel in NYC a month or so ago and was impressed by the company's strategy. Met lots of avid Evernote users at the event and was surprised by the diversity of uses. Also met the founder who is older and dreamed of Evernote a while ago. Nice to see a dream come true.

  • http://www.mobilefocus.net boockit

    Anyone knows where I can see Libin's PPT online? very intresting product

  • swag

    Thanks for the written summary of highlights. For all the hype given online video as a 'new' technology (e.g., gratuitous use of YouTube for faux town halls on TV), it's a horrible medium for gleaning information quickly. Much like voice mail.

  • Schwark

    Ya when you raise $25.5M and if you cannot do it with that money, shame on you.

  • Goofy

    This app is a joke. Talk about much ado about nothing. I find the apps ui onerous and it’s value only marginally compellig. The fact they steal my contnet is not ok with me.

  • charles

    Evernote could be so much better on androis. Now you cannot see notebooks, or capture a web page. Xeekunote does it.

  • Warren Buffet

    “a good product doesn’t have to worry about marketing”

    - Phil libin’s last words

    -good luck Phil, you have no understanding of marketing

  • Josh

    "Warren Buffet"

    - not Buffett's last name

    - good job "Warren," you have no understand of spelling

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGN2_1CGi0g DC Movers

    Great presentation LOVE IT!!!!

  • http://www.onmodu.com Benjamin

    I like startups being honest with their statistics. Evernote is growing pretty stable what's really impressing. Perhaps it would have been better to charge from every user, instead of chosing a Freemium Business Model?! I mean, they were funded with over 25M $ before they got profitable. Nice that it worked out for them!

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/nusret1 yuregininsesi

    Evernote is a good app but after awhile you start to notice its imperfections. I have use it on webos. There needs to be an offline version that has the option to update manually or automatically. Right now it slows everything down to a crawl. Oh and you can't select all in webos. You can copy/paste but trying to select all doesn't work

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