Live Blog: Facebook Unveils New Privacy Controls
Jason Kincaid
May 26, 2010

Yesterday at TechCrunch Disrupt, Facebook’s VP of Product Chris Cox announced that the social network would be unveiling a set of “drastically simplified” privacy controls today. Facebook has scheduled a press conference call for 1:30 EST to unveil the new settings, which will be presented by multiple Facebook executives including CEO Mark Zuckerberg.

This call comes after a month of serious backlash against Facebook, largely focused around its Instant Personalization feature, default ‘Everyone’ sharing, and its highly confusing privacy control panel. My live notes on the call are below.

Zuckerberg: Before we get into the changes we get into the changes we’re doing today. i want to go through how we got to where we are now. I think it’s really easy to lose track of the fact that the service we have today is different from what we had in 2004.

As we grow we’ve had to build modern privacy system that can scale. Hasn’t always been smooth. When we went from college only to open to everyone. There was no smooth way to do it. But we’ve tried hard to continually upgrade the system and build a modern system for privacy.

Over the last year, one of the big things we looked at was News Feed. In December added per-post privacy. Another thing is applications. We started with simple model for privacy around applications – it was “Allow” or cancel. We saw over time a lot of apps just used basic information about you. Most things didn’t use friends’ photos. We felt this model wasn’t granular enough.

Zuckerberg is continuing to walk through the growth of the site — basically how we got here. Issues became particularly difficult with going global, regional networks. Started evolving toward friends, friends of friends, and Everyone (removed regional settings completely).

We made a lot of changes at the same time. We didn’t communicate as well as we could have, a lot of it got lost. We really need to simplify controls.

We’ve offered granular controls, a lot of people like them. We aren’t taking them away. We holed up a couple weeks ago, got designers/engineers together and built this stuff.

Three things – One simple control for all the content you’re sharing. It applies to all content retroactively (good move, FB). Applies to new products going forward.

One misperception – when we went through in December we asked people to make everything sharing for everyone. We think that some stuff it does make sense to share with everyone, others like photos we don’t.

This is a pretty big overhaul to the system. All the granular controls are still there.

For basic directory information – There’s less information that has to be public. We’re removing nuance around connection model, just making it the same as other privacy. Before we didn’t have any privacy control to pages. We added connection model that was too complex. Now you can hide it, even on the Page itself (great news).

Setting search as everyone by default, otherwise people won’t be able to find you.

Third section is about Platform. Easy to turn off Platform completely. Easy opt out for Instant Personalization.

There’s been some concern about Instant Personalization program – it was too confusing to turn it off. Made it so there’s one check box, turn it off. None of your friends will have access to your information either when they use those sites.

We want to make sure we communicate this stuff clearly. So we’ve revamped the privacy guide (good). Changed it to update new privacy settings. one thing we’re planning on doing as we roll this out over next days/weeks. Message at top of peoples’ homepage that links to this new guide so people understand what’s going on. We’ve only ever done a few announcements at the top in the history of the company so it’s something that we take seriously.

Q: I’m having a problem with trust as FB becomes piece of key Internet infrastructure. I get sense FB changes thing without thinking about trust factor. You’re asking us to trust you in a whole new way.
A: At the beginning of my talk I talked about some of our principles. We try to give people control over their information. We try to be innovative and iterative in our development. FB today is so different. We’ve made a lot of changes over time.. the key to how we approach this is that we always listen.

Net Promoter score went down for Facebook after f8 — thought it was from privacy, but it was actually a change in News Feed. It seems a lot of people are upset with us after these changes.. I take that very seriously.

Q: Can you talk about to what extent law makers played into your decision to make these changes. What inputs did they have if at all? Also your conversation with advertisers/partners.
A: We listen to all the feedback we get. We engaged with privacy advocacy organizations. We have had conversations with different folks — senators who had feedback for us. We listened to user back mainly. I think there’s a misperception that we made these changes for advertising. We build great company by serving users first.

Misconceptions – Ideas going on that somehow if people are sharing info more openly we can use it better for ad targeting. It’s the opposite. We target ads ourselves. Because of that, it doesn’t matter who you’re sharing info with, be it you friends or everyone. There’s a concept of data portability – FB connect and Platform. People should be able to take info to other services too. That service can use that data to compete with us/ target us. So by doing what we’re doing we’re actually helping other people compete with us in advertising. We think Data portability is good in other ways. But it’s always a debate is how far we can go.

There are models/views in the world that people want info to be as private as possible. I don’t think that’s what users want. We’re sensitive about it. We really do believe in privacy, giving people control. There’s a balance, more and more people want to share information.

Q: More context on this outcry vs previous ones. Have there been sig. number of users leaving?
A: Every situation is different. We have a lot more people using service now in the past. So News Feed was probably biggest ratio.. 1/10 users back then. People protesting outside of our office. A lot more people are tracking these issues. When you have almost 500 mil using service. If only a few percent are upset that can be a large number of people. Nature ends of being different.

Q: Do you think users understand everyone=the entire Internet:
A: We’ve done a lot of studies on this to find what’s most understandable to people. The first time you post a status update, a box shows up saying share with everyone, this means everyone on the Internet, with links to change settings. Other piece of info: more than 50% of users on FB have changed one setting.

Q: Location. how are you going to prevent a backlash?
A: We’re really going to try not to have another backlash. If people say they want their stuff to be visible to friends only, it will apply to that stuff going forward. Not ready to talk about stuff around location because frankly it’s not done yet.

Q: You said that people weren’t leaving the site, but were they using it less/differently?
A: There was no significant in the way people were using the site. But we got a lot of feedback and agreed with it.




Here are the statements activist groups are sending out:
CDT:

“Facebook’s users have spoken and made it clear that they want control of their information. Despite all rumors to the contrary, privacy is not dead, it is on its way to a comeback in the form of simplified controls and better policies,” said CDT President Leslie Harris. “While more work still needs to be done, these changes are the building blocks for giving people what they want and deserve.”

ACLU of Northern California:

After months of privacy-failing moves, Facebook is finally friending privacy again. Facebook’s about-face on privacy comes as a result of mounting pressure from users and Washington, including ACLU petitions signed by more than 80,000 people demanding that Facebook live up to its principle of user control.

While it’s true that users have more control than they did yesterday, there are still important steps that must be taken. We hope that Facebook will learn from this recent round of privacy problems and going forward, will keeps its principles and not just its pocketbook in mind.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/wiseleo Leonid S. Knyshov

    Still no default option for "Only me" – come on!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/veamon veamon

    Why would you post something on a social site that was only for you? moron

  • http://www.knyshov.com Leonid S. Knyshov

    I secure network devices by blocking everything and allowing only things that I permit. I approach Facebook accounts under my management with the same philosophy.

    I suggest you refrain from publishing insults in a public forum.

    With Facebook, I control permissions through the use of friends lists. That is similar to how I control access in a typical Active Directory environment.

    Facebook is a personal publishing platform and not just a social site.

  • Ben

    Are you kidding me? You must be a huge buzzkill at parties. "Remember to untag yourself from every photo tomorrow!"

  • John

    Only me is hidden under custom currently, I would assume it would still be there.

  • http://www.fblike.com Facebook Like

    Facebook will come out of this controversy unscathed just like they have in the past. The outcry against FB is in the minority, essentially a drop in the bucket, and once these privacy changes are live, watch as only a few thousand people use it. Most people are fine with sharing information, or else they wouldn't sign up online or "Like" stuff around the web (they want their friends to know they like a post, video, etc.).

  • Rachel

    Awesome answer.

  • http://jlrusell.org jlruss

    I am much more curious about the settings available for the apps and partner sites. Looks like there is a pretty clear link to these settings at the bottom of these pages. I think sharing things with friends or even friends of friends on the site is not a main issue with the recent negative reactions. Rather, the sharing of my information with entities (companies, people) outside my social graph of friends seems to be the main complaint and threat to privacy.
    And seriously, since when do I need to get status updates from dead musicians? Just 'cause I like something does not mean I want to listen to their promo messaging. So, I can't share that I enjoy Jimi Hendrix with my friends unless I also subscribe to his estate's marketing department? Fail.

  • http://twitter.com/porcnick @porcnick

    I think it's fair to say that that sort of management scheme is for power users, and doesn't warrant a top level shortcut.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/veamon veamon

    \”Facebook is a personal publishing platform and not just a social site.\”

    Wrong. It's a social site first, and THEN a publishing platform.

    If you want something private, get an offline diary.

    Sent from my iPhone

  • Treeman

    Try Microsoft Word for that. If you want it to be on the internet, try google docs. Your use case, in which you're probably the only one who wants to use it this way, is not what Facebook is made for.

  • ronenm

    If you go to ReadWriteWeb here:http://bit.ly/byC8HD
    you can see a live feed of updates (without refreshing) of the event

  • edmundsalvacion

    Comparing Facebook to an operations job of network security is just downright silly. At the end of the day it's just Facebook. I agree with veamon that publishing things to "only me" is pretty much pointless although I do understand the need to restrict items that are published by others. From a business standpoint it makes very little sense to have a default of "only me." As much as people don't want to accept it, any web company would rather have you interact with a larger set of people than not. Anyone wanting to use the site in a manner not suitable to their tastes in privacy should adjust accordingly, and FB should make their tools to do so less confusing. This isn't your network firewall.

  • Ugh.

    Just stop.

  • Adam

    +1 veamon…you don't want it to public at all? don't put it on facebook in the first place. they're not forcing you to do anything.

  • http://www.bobfet1.com jon

    These new settings are still too complicated, and I am sure they will confuse and intimidate regular users. Facebook needed to come out with something radically simple today that everyone could understand, but now they have proven that they are unwilling or unable to do so. The fact that "Other" still exists tells you everything that you need to know.

    If there was any doubt about it before, there shouldn't be now. You just can't trust this company with your data.

  • Alex

    Your joking right, "Personal publishing platform" HAHAHA! This is the internet, everything is public! I have everything set to everyone because to be honest I really don't care. I am not going to post anything I don't want people to see anywhere on the internet. Not even if it is "Safest place on the net".

  • Joe

    So, can I now make my "Likes" private? It's not just an ease of use issue, its an issue of certain information being forced into the public.

  • cre8pc

    Still not addressed is Facebook being used to send facial recognition information to government agencies, including local police or why they removed/edited our content from our Info pages or why they continue to be in a constant state of damage control.

  • http://twitter.com/Mist3rGo @Mist3rGo

    we want our recent activities not to be published on friend's news feeds..

  • bubba

    too little, too late

  • Scott Carmichael

    There are still too many options by default (it'll overwhelm/confuse people).

    There should be (5) levels: EVERYONE (PUBLIC), FRIENDS & FAMILY & WORK, FRIENDS, FAMILY, WORK

    Then, depending on what category you put contacts in (Friends, Family or Work) you can restrict who sees your updates and who are your other contacts. It's not that difficult.

    And as for apps, how about:

    YES, I WANT TO SEE APP UPDATES or NO, DON'T SHOW APP UPDATES

    And, for privacy data to 3rd parties

    NO, DO NOT SHARE MY INFO TO 3RD PARTIES (Default) or YES, SHARE MY INFO TO 3RD PARTIES

    Forget about the stupid micro-management of individual people/apps…if Facebook HAS to be so difficult/convoluted in order to work properly, than most people would be better off just emailing each other and keeping each others' info in an Excel sheet or contact manager like Outlook or something.

    C'mon Facebook…NOT that hard.

  • John Kleiner

    What is "Other"? Still not clear.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/yigroo yigroo

    LOL, day late and a dollar short. Facebook cannot be trusted.

    Lou http://www.online-privacy.de.tc

  • Jess

    The only thing that I need to be visible to ONLY ME is MY friends list. Ever since they changed this I have been very happy with Facebook's privacy settings.

    And, Leonid, you may suggest that people refrain from publishing insults in a public forum…though I'm not sure why you care. Because it was directed at you?

    And like everyone else has said…Facebook was invented as a social site: that's what it is. Yes, it is ALSO a personal publishing platform, but that isn't it's main purpose, and that is only included because it makes for social networking THAT MUCH BETTER (being able to share your photos with friends, etc).

    I hope you are not a network administrator for someone else. How terrible for any company that you work for!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/reneeswifts reneeswifts

    Its about time. Actually, It's simple and its great.. But certainly, as usual, many will find a yet another loop-hole for it, to make it change again. And we're running on circles again.

  • http://twitter.com/AlexSchleber @AlexSchleber

    Doesn't seem to address the real issue of the "Community Pages" forced publication of your Interests, now called "Likes" (and all the "Likes" to come from the now ubiquitous buttons). If you think this isn't about marketing, you're delusional:
    http://www.eddale.co/general/facebook-bombshell-h...

    (WARNING: slightly over-excited, colorful language)

  • http://www.knyshov.com Leonid S. Knyshov

    That is _precisely_ my point.

    Of course, I know that it's there. But it's definitely not obvious.

    Why should it be hidden? :)

  • http://twitter.com/javaun @javaun

    I would've also guessed that only a small number of social media users change their privacy settings, but according to a new Pew study, 71% of young adults manage privacy settings: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/pew_71_of_yo...

  • You're in luck

    Actually it does, in "Basic Directory Information" you can set "See my interests and other Pages" to whatever you want.

  • Arun

    More importantly, these are now respected both ways. So, really, your connections aren't public unless this you set them to everyone.

  • http://twitter.com/DJRazorChicago @DJRazorChicago

    I've been telling all my friends to join me on YourNight. More privacy, discount shopping with hundreds of merchants, member cash rewards. Check it out, it's FREE to join:http://join.yournight.com/razor

  • Yuliy P

    What works for you doesn't work for everyone. Your grouping all social contacts into friends vs. family is yow you want to manage it.

    If you want to manage things to fine-grained lists of people, if you drill down you can control things by friend lists (this feature was already there before, too).

  • Meh.

    The problem here being that on Facebook, you had no control over what was posted of you by others on the net. You could be tagged on photos, and would have no choice — if your friends wanted it public, it was public. The entirety of the backlash, to my understanding, is that a large portion of Facebook users use this service in order to keep in touch with our friends, not socialize with strangers. Honestly, I could care less if Facebook uses my information to make millions; I do not want them forcing me to tell the world everything about myself. With their habits of of telling everyone they still had control, and then taking away said control piece by piece over the months, years even, it was obvious that the informed community would lash back. You seem to be one of the uninformed, though, that thinks people can only see what you put up. I'm sorry buddy, that's not the case. While a vast majority is, not everything is public, even on the internet. And while you don't care now, I'm sure your opinion will change once someone else's actions on Facebook cause you professional problems.

  • Meh.

    One of the reasons for that is I'm sure a vast majority of the people don't really understand what's behind the whole Like feature — they just see it as a means to recommend things to their friends. I don't think anyone's even complaining about Facebook Connect and OpenGraph minus the security holes that are the result of Facebook not caring enough.

  • Der.

    Beware what you ask for. Simpler controls means less control. You're kind of contradicting yourself there.

  • Guest

    Facebook sucks.

  • Dan

    Nope it’s a social site, you’re just using it wrong.

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/nusret1 yuregininsesi

    Comparing Facebook to an operations job of network security is just downright silly. At the end of the day it's just Facebook. I agree with veamon that publishing things to "only me" is pretty much pointless although I do understand the need to restrict items that are published by others. From a business standpoint it makes very little sense to have a default of "only me." As much as people don't want to accept it, any web company would rather have you interact with a larger set of people than not. Anyone wanting to use the site in a manner not suitable to their tastes in privacy should adjust accordingly, and FB should make their tools to do so less confusing. This isn't your network firewall.

  • http://conferencecalls.com/ conference call

    Facebook is the number one SNS in my opinion as it has members from most of the countries around the world.

  • marcus

    In the age of facebook privacy issues, the sundance acclaimed documentary ‘Catfish’ asks a lot of important questions: http://bit.ly/anE6RZ

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