• "Evil" app shows how Facebook users make their mobile numbers public

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    Monday, May 24th, 2010

    Back in the early cretaceous period – ok, make that 2006 – users of Facebook thought they were using a private social network. As a result they did all sorts of things which they probably wouldn’t have made public. Of course, now we know that Mark Zuckerberg believes that “if people share more, the world will become more open and connected”. In plain English that means Facebook wants to open up much of your data to the outside world, assuming you haven’t gone through your privacy settings with a fine-toothed comb. That may also include your mobile phone number.

    Because, in the past (and even today), many Facebook users who lost their mobile phone unwisely created groups often called “lost my phone!!!!! need ur numbers!!!!!” or similar.

    They then ask their friends to post their mobile numbers onto the group. Their friends have obliged. Most of these groups are marked as ‘public’, or ‘visible to everyone’ but they would have been much harder to access or scrape before Facebook began opening up.

    And as we all now know “Public” on Facebook effectively means “On Google”.

    It is therefore childs’ play to Google for mobile numbers publicly shared on Facebook.

    But that would be dull and easy. Instead, London-based developer Tom Scott has created a Web app called, simply, Evil.

    This randomly displays the private phone numbers of unsuspecting Facebook users.

    Evil uses the graph API to search for groups about lost phones. It picks them at random, extracts some of the phone numbers, and then shows them. However, in an act of mercy not usually associated with “evil”, it replaces the last three numbers with XXX. The results are not stored and all the processing happens on your own computer.

    So, in case you posted to one of these ‘lost phone’ groups, the only way to make your phone number private on Facebook is to go into all the “lost number” groups you’ve ever joined and delete your posts.

    Of course, some people should just take more notice of what they put online. But then most people don’t…

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    • jim

      I think tech crunch broke it…

      • Kamuishiroux

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    • microsoft

      “Most of these groups are marked as ‘public’, or ‘visible to everyone’ but they would have been much harder to access or scrape before Facebook began opening up.

      uh, youre wrong? they’ve always been accessible. And theres nothing wrong with it. People posting the numbers know that theyre posting it online…

    • http://ryanhaylett.com Ryan Haylett

      Heh, another nail in the coffin.

    • http://thunderpeel2001.blogspot.com JohnnyW

      Will Facebook be killed by lack of public trust in their product? I certainly don’t trust it :(

    • Timotheus

      Facebook “nails in the coffin” are already enough. Oh i wish it will give up soon and be sent back to the current owners aka CIA, FBI & Co ‘lovely hands’…

    • Dave

      I followed the proper online steps from Facebook to deactivate my never-used account. In order to do that, though, the program insists you “tell them a few things about yourself.” This is a multi-page survey with a lot of personal questions. Imagine my surprise when a friend, who did the same, told me all of our bogus answers to very personal questions were now on a website called http://www.spokeo.com. On the positive side, nice to see I apparently live in a $1M home. A pox on Mr. Zuckerberg and his greedy, dishonest associates.

      • http://www.linkedin.com/in/susiesharp Susie Sharp

        If you go to the bottom of the page at http://www.spokeo.com (BTW IMHO everyone should put their name in and see what comes up) there is a PRIVACY link. Follow it and fill out the form, and voila! Your personal information is deleted.

        I also recommend that Facebook users go to http://www.reclaimprivacy.org. Upload the open source widget, ask it to scan your wall, and you can take care of all the privacy issues in one fell swoop. This is very helpful, especially as FB’s privacy settings become increasingly convoluted.

        • tye jacobs

          @Susie, first thanks for the info on Spokeo – they have always been a very stinky company- used to pay people to turn over other peoples biz cards- say from a convention.

          How sick- looks like things have not changed much- will try your solution and thanks for posting

        • Guest

          Just asking to remove it from spokeo doesn’t remove it from where THEY got it. The question is, where the hell did they get it from. Most everyones phone and address is PUBLIC unless you’re a cop or judge.

    • http://www.pcartisan.com David1984

      i would like to caution you guys against making numbers public. Lots of security issues, you could get screwed easily.

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    • http://www.formula1apex.com/ Gravity

      I think this is another reason why you should not put up your cell phone numbers on public networking sites…

    • http://www.appgiveaway.com Mike James

      Well I wont be featuring that on http://www.appgiveaway.com!!!!

    • jlo0312

      Mark Z. is going to learn a hard lesson about social networking soon. Companies whose survival depends on people’s input and interest in your company can’t simply decide to ignore them. I’m not saying that there’ll be an EXODUS from FB, but more and more high-profile users will depart and the Fed will intervene.

    • http://www.chriskettle.com Chris Kettle

      So it’s like the BT Directory with pictures ?

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    • http://www.blogspot.maldenmom.com Jen

      I don’t think Mark’s going to learn any lesson except that there’s literally always an endless supply of fresh 13-25 year-olds, who are young enough to (1) have such small social spheres that everyone they know knows each other and there is little need to separate, (2) not have reached the age of maturity at which most adults would just rather not feel that “anyone” can “see their stuff,” and (3) have so few serious obligations and commitments in life that there is nothing they feel a strong need to be private about.

      It seems Zuckerberg himself is still in this demographic–at least on points 2 and 3. When he gets married and has a baby, he may come to realize that all of a sudden he has a protective instinct for privacy because of the family he’ll have to take care of.

      It’s possible that all it will take to change Facebook’s fundamental approach to privacy is for the founder to grow up a bit more.

      • http://www.chriskettle.com Chris Kettle

        well said.

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    • http://natts.com Dave Nattriss

      Why are we assuming that these people didn’t mean for this to happen? If you post your phone number online somewhere, you couldn’t ever claim it was ‘private’ – you are clearly opting-in to it being publicly viewable.

      Facebook has never claimed groups are private – groups have always been publicly accessible.

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