Brazil: The New Home of Financial Innovation?
Sarah Lacy
Mar 7, 2010

Brazil is sort of a strange country to throw into the “emerging market” category. It’s not a particularly young country like India or Israel, nor is it a country like China or Russia that embraced capitalism fairly recently. Brazil is as old as the US and has had a decently built out infrastructure of things like roads and phone lines for some time.

Yes, it’s a growing country with a young and stabilizing democracy that has a long way to go in terms of technology, modernization and bridging a quality of life between very wealthy and very poor. In that sense, it shares enough in common with emerging markets that Wall Street, at least, tosses it in the “BRIC” bucket. Indeed, Wall Street has had a way bigger crush on Brazil to date than Silicon Valley.
That seems to have had two effects on the startup scene in Sao Paulo. The first is that there’s a good deal of innovation in the finance space. Banks in Brazil had to become advanced, many people told me, because of the runaway inflation that plagued the country for so many years. As opposed to other huge markets like Mexico, China or India that lagged in the adoption of checking accounts and other basic services, in Brazil you had to have your money in the bank, because the value of cash changed so rapidly.  So it’s no surprise more of those there’s-a-better-way spin-offs have come in finance than, say, Web 2.0 or mobile. (There’s a ton in agriculture and other sectors outside the cities too, but more on that in a future post.)
My favorite finance company that I met during my February trip to Brazil is called Crivo, and it left me wondering if that great wave of finance innovation might come from our Southern neighbors, not us.

Crivo has developed a way to do lightning-fast, three-second credit checks. Its servers pull information from a variety of sources, including all the places you’d expect but but also sources like utility records to verify an applicant’s address or ensuring that their phone number doesn’t just go to a payphone. “Even a single piece of information can be useful in detecting fraud,” says Daniel Turnini, one of Crivo’s founders. (Pictured above, on the right, with his co-founders.)

There’s nothing like a FICO score in Brazil so, in the past, credit decisions were made based on negative data and positive data. In other words you are “good” or “bad” in the bank’s eyes. There’s little record for positive data in Brazil, because the wealthiest people don’t want how much they paid for a house or a car in public records. It’s a security issue, Turnini says. That only leaves negative data.

So if there’s no information about you, it’s assumed you’re a good credit risk. But miss one payment and you have a “dirty name,” Turini says. It’s a flawed system. Many good credit risks (indeed I’d bet most people) have missed a payment before, and it’s a huge assumption to make that someone with no credit history would be a good borrower. In recent years there have been banks, insurance companies, and similar institutions vying to cash in on Brazil’s emerging middle class and increasingly wealthy upper classes, but had no real way of knowing how to extend credit.

Sound like great timing? It would have been if Crivo wasn’t started in 1998. Back then, few banks in the US would have been early adopters of something like this, let alone banks in Brazil. (Ok, most banks in the US still wouldn’t be.) Nailing that first customer was near impossible. The founders kept thinking they were on the right track because potential customers would freak out when they saw how quickly the software worked, but they’d never quite pull the trigger on a purchase. Always hoping things would finally click the next year, the founders kept bootstrapping the company. Finally, it did. Toyota’s Brazilian financial arm bought their software and used it to rapidly approve people for loans, beating other car makers who were flooding into the growing market. The company has been on a sharp growth rate for five years now. They did roughly $12 million in revenues last year, and expect that to double in 2010, Turini says. Crivo says it has more than 80 employees and 100 customers today.

There are clear ripple effects if Crivo does well. More people getting credit cards helps grow spending and ecommerce, more small businesses can get loans, and more people who can’t afford to pay in cash can buy houses – to name just a few advantages. We’ve seen the benefits of “greenfield markets” when it comes to innovation in telecom and even physical infrastructure, like roads and trains. Might Brazil be able to come up with some greenfield solutions for finance? It’s easy to see how a FICO score could be improved on and, ahem, really easy to make the argument that way too much credit has been extended in the US in the last ten years. But while we have a system in place, who is going to upend the apple cart and force widespread-adoption of a newer, smarter system? It’s South Korea and telecom all over again.

And there’s another benefit to an emerging market that plays host to lots of finance and consulting multinationals. While countries like Israel and India have gotten a raft of talented coders thanks to US outsourcing, their own startups struggle when it comes to finding locals with sales and management expertise. Those jobs are usually kept in the US or done by transplanted Americans.

And just as Intel, Cisco, Oracle and Google have trained thousands of engineers in emerging markets, so the big consulting, finance and CPG companies are training hundreds of potential managers in Brazil.

Yes, I realize that to many tech entrepreneurs, the idea of a country amassing an army of middle managers sounds about as appealing as a resurrection ship of Cylons. But a lot of the most talented local entrepreneurs, managers and even investors I met in Brazil had spun out of a year or two in consulting and finance.

An example was Diego Simon of VivaReal (pictured right, working in his tiny home office), a broad Latin American real estate portal that has increasingly been focusing on Brazil. Neither of the founders are Brazilian – or even live in Brazil – so finding someone like Simon was essential. Entrepreneurs from other South American countries say selling to Brazil as an outsider is harder for them than selling to China. That makes Simon exactly the Droid any company like VivaReal is looking for: He had experience running his family’s business, worked a stint for a multinational but left because he wanted to do something vaguely entrepreneurial – although he didn’t know exactly what. I’ve never been particularly bullish on real estate portals, but if VivaReal does well, it will be in no small part due to Simon criss-crossing Sao Paulo in his Fiat extolling the virtues of online listings under the auspices of a common culture and language.

The problem is—like in China and India—the allure of the multi-national paycheck and prestige is strong in Brazil. The management expertise may be there in greater numbers, but convincing someone to take a gamble on an unproven startup for stock is as hard as it is anywhere in the emerging world.

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  • José Marcos

    I would like to add Yupee in yout list of fresh brazilian finnancial innovators. Yupee is a Mint.com like application. Take a look: http://www.yupee.com.br

    Best regards

    José Marcos

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  • Crunch Reader

    “particularly young country like India!!! or Israel”

    What! India is a young country now?!!!!!!!

  • http://www.paulcarr.com Paul Carr

    Yes. The republic of India was founded on 26 January 1950 after it declared independence from the British.

  • Eric

    Brazil is a country of smart people with good taste and creative potential. I expect to see a lot of great startups headed up by Brazilians.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=578638315 Frank Fan

    TechCrunch should attention a popular chat service in Brazil named groups.im. As a “emerging market” IM still be in the ascendant there

  • Lou S. Cruz

    There’s a app for that….. http://smi.sh/04db9

  • Felix

    Great post, as Eric said, I also expect to see a lot of good startups coming from Brasil in next couple of years..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509384937 Michael Olenick

    Yeah — Fair Issac (FICO) does a fantastic job of predicting credit worthiness: just think about their success. Custodians qualified for no-doc jumbo loans they could never afford but planned to flip, pumping up home prices for everybody. People who had their credit limits slammed down due to the banks incompetence went from great credit to mediocre credit with the same payment history, income, and everything else in place. The self-employed with long-term steady income are high-risk but those who work for years at big corporations that downsize relentlessly are low risk. People who declare bankruptcy often quickly have a substantially higher score than those who don’t based on FICO’s scoring systems.

    The current housing and economic mess has plenty of blame to share, but nobody seems to notice Fair Issac despite that their systems were almost universally used to predict defaults and seem to have failed on a massive scale.

    There’s a fortune to be made from a better US credit default prediction system. Bankers could lend to people and businesses that Fair Issac’s formulas rank as risky, but who aren’t, and avoid those Fair Issac deems safe, but who common sense shows are likely to default. This would require hard work from some competent statisticians (and probably economists, sociologists, and industrial psychologists) but could and would be a runaway hit if a bank could lend to a wider group with a genuinely lower default rate.

  • http://www.urlsreview.com urlsreview.com

    Though technically correct, bracketing Israel and India as young nations seems to be little odd.

  • ru

    it’s been the case for a long time where if you wanted tech work done dirt cheap, you outsourced to india, but if you wanted tech work done cheap by people who aren’t the source material for thedailywtf, you go to brazil

  • Gabriel

    Yeah, that is strange for me. When I as in US last time I tried to buy an iPhone but the sale was dennied to me due to “didn’t have financial history”.

    In Brazil thing’s are different. You only have to prove that you have ways to pay the thing/service that you’re buying. And off course, be “good”.

  • Ben

    No.

  • arvind

    lol… @Paul Carr

    India got its independence from british in 1947… but that does not mean its a young country….

    israel was “created” in 1948

    usa’s documented history is probably around 500 years old.

    india’s documented history.. atleast few thousand of years old!

  • Vanessa

    Somebody did not do their homework. Need a Bible? Israel is not a young country by any measure stick. The U.S. is a babe compared to India and Israel. In fact the U.S. is young compared to most countries in the world. That’s what made it a phenomenon as a super power.

    Nonetheless, interesting article about Brazil.

  • Breno Santos

    Nice try – realistically if you wanted to party or get mugged go to Brazil but if you want serious work done look to India.

  • http://www.auriumsoft.com.br/blog Alfred Reinold Baudisch

    As a Brazilian web developer with 12 years of experience I can say that it’s incredible hard to make ecommerce work here, thanks to the hardness through the payment process.

    I wrote and sold about 50 ecommerce sites in my career, but with big headaches. The problem starts in talking to the banks and cc companies to allow the virtual transactions: it’s expensive and it’s a huge web of stupid bureaucracy.

    And plus add the fact of most Brazilians are still afraid of buying online, claiming they will be robbed whether by the online store or because some hacker will get their personal data.

    Fortunately, my products are moving outside.

    The good side: there are almost no web startups, so the place is open for everything and everyone.

  • P

    You idiot, although the republic was founded in 1950, the country has existed since centuries, whether under the British, the Mughals, the Rajputs or other dynasties.

  • Jim Beam

    WTF? Lacy is impressed with instant credit checks? Do shiny beads also impress you and keep you fascinated for hours?

    This is the best company you could profile? Weak.

  • Erbo

    FICO is not as useful an indicator for longer-term obligations, such as mortgages. Unfortunately, the banksters didn’t bother to keep that in mind, focused as they were on creating new, “innovative mortgage products” to generate more fees and skim more off the top while fleecing and asset-stripping the consumer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=16310246 Kiran Vaka

    One question – How important is the knowledge of Portuguese language in order to do business, or start a company in Brazil? The article does not give any insight on this.
    I have worked with quite a few Brazilian customers, and Portuguese seems to be the language in which business is conducted there. Of course, most are also comfortable with English.

  • http://www.binfire.com david Robins

    Brazil has huge potential! It is a democracy with large population who appreciate progress.
    Israel on the other had is a small democratic country with small population, but people who have big ambitions and work really hard. For disruptive new ideas check Israeli companies!

  • http://www.sriraj.org Sriraj

    How do you define ‘Young country’ first?
    Putting Israel and India in the same bracket seems perfectly alright considering they got their Independence in 1948 and 1947 respectively.
    China was declared as Peoples republic of China in 1949.

  • http://www.motosport.in memey

    i think brazil is a big coutry with a huge potential.

  • RJ

    To be honest, this article is a complete mess. It’s an incoherent rambling which makes complete nonsensical points about why Brazil is a “strange” country to be labelled and emerging market. What are you an about Sarah? Brazil is the epitome of an emerging market. And India, a new country? The US is a ‘new country’ my dear. Why don’t you throw them into the mix?

    In future just review the start-ups based there. That bit of the post was interesting at least.

  • http://www.mumuy.com rinada

    thanks 4 that post.but i think indonesia is a potential one

  • Andrea Favale

    I love Brazil and I believe it’s the country of the future in many ways and it’s above China or India in terms of medium term potential. But this article doesn’t make much sense. Claiming that Brazil is the new home of financial innovation because of one interesting start up is a bit of a stretch at best.

  • Raj

    Saying that India lagged in adoption of checking accounts is not exactly correct. I’d like to see your basis for stating this as fact.

    The financial services market in India has accounted for the biggest part of GDP compared to any other sector for years.

    And common people have had checking accounts for a very long time. They might have nothing else, but they have checking accounts.

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  • http://www.breadmarket.co.uk mark

    but India had an already established population where as Israel was formed by mostly immigrants.

  • http://www.auriumsoft.com.br/blog Alfred Reinold Baudisch

    Portuguese for sure. This is a massive country and just a few know good English. And even if everyone knew English, that’s a matter of adding value to the country’s culture.

    On the other hand, it depends on the market you will focus. If you want to hit a massive Brazillian public, go for Portuguese. If you want to take the elite, the language doesn’t matter, although I think that rule applies to any country.

  • Alan

    The reason for few start-ups in Brazil is the absurd bureaucracy to open and close a company. Researches say that Brazilians are the most entrepreneur people in the world.
    But the financial structure and processes of banks and investments options are definitely one of the most solid, fast and secure in the world.
    The reason for that was the need to create mechanisms to survive during hyper inflation time. Brazilians are incredibly creative and flexible people. Sometimes it’s good, while in some situations, I particularly don’t like it.
    Businesses in Brazil are based on trust and friendship most of the times, so, to speak Portuguese is a must, even though many businessmen can speak English quite well.
    I consider Brazil a very young country. We started acknowledge ourselves as Brazilians only after the arrival of the Portugal Royal family in 1888 (running away from Napolean, which was a smart but coward move by the way). Before that, the name Brazilian didn’t even exist. We were only the gold mine for Portugal to pay its debts to England.
    Undoubtedly, we have the capability of becoming a very mighty nation in the future, but we need to work on quality education and culture for a couple of decades before that.

  • http://www.lampadaglobal.com David O’Keefe

    Brazil has long been an innovative market for financial technology due, as noted, to the past economic instability and ongoing concerns about online security.

    At the same time, there is a tremendous opportunity here now to free money and transactions from the grip of banks and credit card companies. Wired’s article on this trend in the US (http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/02/ff_futureofmoney/) is even more applicable to Brazil.

    For on-the-ground insight on innovation, technology and finance in Brazil, feel free to ping me on Skype (dtokeefe).

  • ru

    spoken like someone who can only pass a static analysis-based security audit through coincidence.

    good luck in the long run, friend
    when the battle between the least-worst ends and genuine competition erupts, you know where to look for help

  • http://www.netgrowthgroup.com Alec Campbell

    To make sure credit is given where credit is due, VivaReal was founded in Bogota, Colombia – another hotbed for exceptional IT and entrepreneurial talent. For those of you whose first impression of Colombia still consists of drug trafficking, kidnapping, and killing, think again.

    Colombia is the second largest country in South America in terms of population, and good quite easily become the second largest economy within the next 5 years thanks to a stable government, high-quality education, and entrepreneurial spirit.

    Look for more great things coming out of Colombia in the years to come such as http://www.letmego.com.

    ADC

  • smartone

    Another large reason why ecommerce hasn’t taken off in Brazil .

    Package delivery is expensive and extremely unreliable.

  • http://pippo.com pippo

    The only problems of brazilians is that they get drunk easily and they don’t have a case history beside flip flop hawaianas ;-)
    Opps…sorry the have ipanema as good case history ;-)

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  • IRS alert: Lacy at it again

    IRS alert:

    Sarah Lacy continues her rudderless travels, posting stories no one is asking her to write.

    I suspect she’s attempting to write off her various trips as “business expenses” and using her array of “non stories” to justify the travel.

    Which of course, is simply not true.

    IRS: Investigate Lacy immediately. However, I’m more concerned Lacy is giving America yet another public relations black eye by constantly inserting her self–and sense of importance–into every conversation she has with the international community.

    Sigh.

  • Lucy

    Not true. Brazilian “Correios” are very reliable and even cheap, if compared to US standards.

  • olocny

    So if you look at a map before 1947, the land masses of Israel, India, and China are not there? Were there blank spots? It’s correct that a definition of the term “young country” is needed. Brazil became a republic in 1889. But it’s a “young country.” Ireland became a republic in 1949. Italy became a republic in 1947. Which of the 3 is younger?

  • Greg

    Why are you guys confusing “emerging market” with “new country”?

  • Pedro Cabral

    “arrival of the Portugal Royal Family in 1888″

    Actual date: 1808.

    “we need to work on quality education..for a couple of decades…”

  • Juan Pablo Montoya

    My “first impression of Colombia” is Shakira.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1249148363 Diego Gomes

    Intelligent analysis. Brazil is a very peculiar “emerging country” and Sarah got it right.

  • ulysses

    I think that would have been closer to what was intended.

  • Thomas Messier

    Alan is right. The problem in Brazil is that the bureaucracy and laws in the country stifle innovation. In spite of that, they still manage to come up with good stuff, so imagine what they’d do if they were in an environment that encouraged startups instead of suffocating them?

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  • Jethro

    Median age in India is 25. In Japan it is 42.

  • Ilan Ben Menachem

    In Brazil thing’s are different. You only have to prove that you have ways to pay the thing/service that you’re buying. And off course, be “good”.

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  • http://www.lowincomehousing.us Tina

    Brazil has the resources necessary to become a real powerhouse over the next 20 years. The only thing I see as a problem is overall safety. I am in S. Florida and the Brazilians I know are tech savvy and very educated. They are not going back to Brazil due to the safety reasons. They have families and do not want to risk getting them hurt in dangerous areas.

  • I heart Brazil

    In this article Sarah mentions that she is not very bullish on real estate portals. That's probably because she is not looking beyond the US border for other success stories. The reality is if you looks at the top revenue producing real estate portals around the world, a large percentage of them come from outside the US (Germany, UK – close to a billion USD market cap, Australia – over $1 bn market cap, France – half a billion market cap, China, etc). These companies are worth 3-5X the largest player Move, inc in the US and they are countries that are a lot smaller (with the exception of China).

  • http://mygreenhomeinflorida.com Greg

    As a homeowner and parent, i know that having a healthy and green home is extremely important in protecting the health of my family.

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