Google Defends Against Large Scale Chinese Cyber Attack: May Cease Chinese Operations
Michael Arrington
Jan 12, 2010

Google is releasing information about a “highly sophisticated and targeted attack” on their corporate infrastructure that occurred last month. The attack originated in China and resulted in the “theft of intellectual property from Google.” In light of the attack Google is making sweeping changes to its Chinese operations.

Google is releasing some information about these attacks to the public. The company says that a minimal amount of user information was compromised, but has come to the alarming conclusion that the attacks were targeting the information of Chinese human rights activists. Google found that these attacks were not just going after Google’s data, but were also targeting at least twenty other major companies spanning sectors including Internet, finance, chemicals, and more. Google has also discovered that phishing attacks have been used to compromise the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists around the world.

In light of the attacks, and after attempts by the Chinese government to further restrict free speech on the web, Google has decided it will deploy a fully uncensored version of its search engine in China. This is a major change: since January 2006, Google has made concessions to the Chinese government and offered a censored (and highly controversial) version of its search engine at Google.cn. Google isn’t playing that game any longer. Should the Chinese government decide that an uncensored engine is illegal, then Google may cease operations in China entirely.  We have included Google’s blog posts about the decision in their entirety below.

Like many other well-known organizations, we face cyber attacks of varying degrees on a regular basis. In mid-December, we detected a highly sophisticated and targeted attack on our corporate infrastructure originating from China that resulted in the theft of intellectual property from Google. However, it soon became clear that what at first appeared to be solely a security incident–albeit a significant one–was something quite different.

First, this attack was not just on Google. As part of our investigation we have discovered that at least twenty other large companies from a wide range of businesses–including the Internet, finance, technology, media and chemical sectors–have been similarly targeted. We are currently in the process of notifying those companies, and we are also working with the relevant U.S. authorities.

Second, we have evidence to suggest that a primary goal of the attackers was accessing the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists. Based on our investigation to date we believe their attack did not achieve that objective. Only two Gmail accounts appear to have been accessed, and that activity was limited to account information (such as the date the account was created) and subject line, rather than the content of emails themselves.

Third, as part of this investigation but independent of the attack on Google, we have discovered that the accounts of dozens of U.S.-, China- and Europe-based Gmail users who are advocates of human rights in China appear to have been routinely accessed by third parties. These accounts have not been accessed through any security breach at Google, but most likely via phishing scams or malware placed on the users’ computers.

We have already used information gained from this attack to make infrastructure and architectural improvements that enhance security for Google and for our users. In terms of individual users, we would advise people to deploy reputable anti-virus and anti-spyware programs on their computers, to install patches for their operating systems and to update their web browsers. Always be cautious when clicking on links appearing in instant messages and emails, or when asked to share personal information like passwords online. You can read more here about our cyber-security recommendations. People interested wanting to learn more about these kinds of attacks can read this U.S. government report (PDF), Nart Villeneuve’s blog and this presentation on the GhostNet spying incident.

We have taken the unusual step of sharing information about these attacks with a broad audience not just because of the security and human rights implications of what we have unearthed, but also because this information goes to the heart of a much bigger global debate about freedom of speech. In the last two decades, China’s economic reform programs and its citizens’ entrepreneurial flair have lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese people out of poverty. Indeed, this great nation is at the heart of much economic progress and development in the world today.

We launched Google.cn in January 2006 in the belief that the benefits of increased access to information for people in China and a more open Internet outweighed our discomfort in agreeing to censor some results. At the time we made clear that “we will carefully monitor conditions in China, including new laws and other restrictions on our services. If we determine that we are unable to achieve the objectives outlined we will not hesitate to reconsider our approach to China.”

These attacks and the surveillance they have uncovered–combined with the attempts over the past year to further limit free speech on the web–have led us to conclude that we should review the feasibility of our business operations in China. We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China.

The decision to review our business operations in China has been incredibly hard, and we know that it will have potentially far-reaching consequences. We want to make clear that this move was driven by our executives in the United States, without the knowledge or involvement of our employees in China who have worked incredibly hard to make Google.cn the success it is today. We are committed to working responsibly to resolve the very difficult issues raised.

Posted by David Drummond, SVP, Corporate Development and Chief Legal Officer

Here’s a second post, from the Google Enterprise Blog:

Many corporations and consumers regularly come under cyber attack, and Google is no exception. We recently detected a cyber attack targeting our infrastructure and that of at least 20 other publicly listed companies. This incident was particularly notable for its high degree of sophistication. We believe Google Apps and related customer data were not affected by this incident. Please read more about our public response on the Official Google Blog.

This attack may understandably raise some questions, so we wanted to take this opportunity to share some additional information and assure you that Google is introducing additional security measures to help ensure the safety of your data.

This was not an assault on cloud computing. It was an attack on the technology infrastructure of major corporations in sectors as diverse as finance, technology, media, and chemical. The route the attackers used was malicious software used to infect personal computers. Any computer connected to the Internet can fall victim to such attacks. While some intellectual property on our corporate network was compromised, we believe our customer cloud-based data remains secure.

While any company can be subject to such an attack, those who use our cloud services benefit from our data security capabilities. At Google, we invest massive amounts of time and money in security. Nothing is more important to us. Our response to this attack shows that we are dedicated to protecting the businesses and users who have entrusted us with their sensitive email and document information. We are telling you this because we are committed to transparency, accountability, and maintaining your trust.

Posted by Dave Girouard, President, Google Enterprise

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  • http://www.penguinsix.com Andrew

    Take a look at Google.cn image search now. Do a search for Tianamen Square. Quite a change from what Google.cn used to show.

    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=tianamen%20square&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

  • Aaron

    I wonder if this has more to do with their lack of success in China.

    http://siteanalytics.compete.com/google.cn/

    Maybe not accurate but clearly there are competitors there who are doing better. Perhaps this uncensoring is just to avoid saying “we failed here”

  • The Kid

    Those Chinese Communists!

  • jack

    wow. great stand. I am going to click on some ads in my gmail account right now.
    Google +1

  • http://www.layeredbyte.com Holden Page

    This is huge.

    Google is potentially giving up a lot to do the right thing.

    They just won about a thousand points in respect from me.

  • n1kko

    Score one for open enterprise….

    The attacks on Google are quite sophisticated – i hope the US has got their shit together ASAP …..

  • d-d

    wow, that’s definitely huge, and I am very proud fan of Google right now.

  • Bill Robert

    Well, that’s bold, incredibly much bolder that their precedent move to censor their chinese website.

  • zxspectrum

    And the real reason below:

    At first glance one might readily declare “game over” in the China online search war. Beijing-based Baidu (BIDU) dominates: According to Jennifer Li, Baidu’s chief financial officer, Baidu’s market share for search in China was about 77% in the third quarter, up from 75.6% in the second quarter.

    Google (GOOG), she says, lost share in China, dropping to 17% in the third quarter, from about 19% in the second quarter.

    DECEMBER 28TH, 2009

  • yang

    holy shit, this is big news

  • hitechsites

    The ambitions of the chinese is nothing short of “electronic world domination ” as per this article : http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html
    And
    http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article2409865.ece

    The biggest threat to the world today is actually not terrorism per se – but Cyber Terrorism of the type the Chinese are conducting.

    While it seems like a cliche to say that the next world war will be in cyberspace – all it takes is for one country to have a few skilled hackers, and suddenly the number of troops, the hardware, and the nuclear devices of the enemy don’t matter. What is really scary is that country is most likely going to be China. Not be an alarmist here – but you know what happened the last time the intelligence services ignored vital clues and did not connect the dots.

    I commend Google for taking the stand they have against China and I hope this opens the world’s eyes to the true intentions of China.

  • http://thebln.com/blog/ Mark Littlewood

    China vs Google.

    Lets hope there are no chinks in Google’s armour?

  • http://www.ignimedia.com igniman

    running google.cn allows them to monitor the situation more closely, so i don’t think shutting down google.cn is a good idea at all

  • ljlkjklj

    hah

  • tccritic

    OMG, for the first time this year, I feel proud of Google.

    Although I do suspect they’re doing it only to get TechCrunch opinion off covering their shocking launch of the Nexus One with its millions of customer complaints….

  • http://www.ignimedia.com igniman

    maybe it’s just an american reaction to the recent devaluation of the yuan

    but more seriously, running google.cn allows them to monitor the situation more closely, so don’t shut it down

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan_Khoo/824285541 Jonathan Khoo

    go team google!

  • Luis Craik

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nino_Armstrong_Marchetti/627663816 Nino Armstrong Marchetti

    This is a huge move on Google’s part. It will be interesting to see how the Chinese government chooses to react.

    Nino
    EarthTechling
    http://www.earthtechling.com/

  • http://www.jamesmaybe.com/blog/ James Maybe

    It seems like Google is basically accusing the Chinese government directing attacks against their services and users of their service. Does anyone else read the same thing into their statement?

  • igniman

    wtf? bomb china? srsly?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Yugan_Nathan/818290136 Yugan Nathan

    BIG Respect!!

  • wang

    Hotdamn, I am impressed! Google does follow its motto, Don’t do evil!

  • Nathan

    No, you misspelled “Tiananmen”

  • http://www.GirlAskHimOut.com Sarwat

    With everything moving to the cloud all these cyber attacks are having bigger and bigger impact. if a $200 Billion dollar company like Google still gets this massive attacks then what about smaller web properties that doesn’t have the the kind of man power and money that Google has will do?

    I believe big companies like Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and the like need to cooperate and put much more effort in creating a much for secure environment on the internet instead of just building new features, otherwise with everything moving to the cloud, things are gonna take a very very bad turn.

  • jon

    I don’t think you should give too much credit to Google for doing this – it’s good that they’re reconsidering their position supporting the Chinese government’s censorship, but this doesn’t change the fact that they agreed to participate in the first place.

  • Joops Laa

    This is absolutely shocking.

    It is clear that the Chinese government will be a force to be reckoned with in the future. Global condemnation of China should be swift – this is absolutely disgraceful, and rather scary that such an internet giant (google) could be hacked in such a way.

    Google has earned my full respect, and I couldn’t help feel a small twinge of joy when I read Google’s response. I am interested in how China responds. Will they block Google? If they did, they would garner a huge amount of negative publicity.

    This will be front page news, mark my words.

  • Wade

    Go China, new #1 world power !!

  • AW

    God, I love the $#$@ out of Google sometimes. Seriously.

    Kickin’ telecomm ass with Android, the free spectrum initiative…

    I don’t know what Google’s goals are, but the way they’re going after them is alright by me.

  • Casey

    Good to see Google sacking up and dropping the big one after getting Pearl Harbored by China!

  • http://www.misae.co.uk Misae Richwoods

    This is potentially *massive*.

    I don’t think Google are doing this to be the hero. I think that being in a position where a government agency is trying compromise you constantly makes your position untenable; they must leave. The risk is that their big bases – the USA – have compromised data and that would cripple them.

    At the same time, China is never going to let them run uncensored. It’s over. And what that means for relations between US corporations and China will be really interesting to see

  • Ric

    Riiight. Not a lot of internet users in China, anyway.

    Seriously, does anyone really believe after this “review” that they’ll really leave China?

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  • Brian

    The next real warfare is global corporate warfare, where governments aide business by stealing trade secrets from overseas competitors.

    wait till that hits the auto industry. Oh wait, this war has been going on for decades.

  • SarahSaintalucia

    Don’t trust Baidus numbers with out corroborating sources.

  • Richard

    Google, you just impressed me. More companies should show such commitment.

    I was holding off buying a Nexus One from you, but having the guts to take a stand like this earns you my business. I just bought one, and though it may not make much difference in your revenue, I hope it helps a tiny bit in your fight for freedom.

  • Marc

    WELL DONE GOOGLE! I don’t think I ever cheered while reading my rss feeder.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard_J_Barbalace/1038187863 Richard J. Barbalace

    Google, you just impressed me. More companies should show such commitment.

    I was holding off buying a Nexus One from you, but having the guts to take a stand like this earns you my business. I just bought one, and though it may not make much difference in your revenue, I hope it helps a tiny bit in your fight for freedom.

  • Grommet

    Maybe Google should lodge a formal protest through our ambassador to China, Wal-Mart.

  • trigger

    There are things more important than making money. Well done, Google. Shame on you, Baidu.

  • Frank

    With the 50+ years history of these socialists, I highly doubt that they will allow an uncensored search engine in China.

    The Chinese socialists have much less to loose now than just a few years ago if Google chooses to pull out. Baidu has a huge market share, and are happy to limit Freedom of Speach.

    The 17% of the people using Google constitute no danger to the socialist government.

  • Ken Aston

    Doesn’t Google face unfair regulations that actually helps Baidu compete against Google? I bet this is part of the reason for what’s going on now.

    If they can’t compete against Baidu under the regulations and are even loosing market share and their voice in China, it makes indeed sense not to accept the regulations.

  • Jay

    They should have just done this to begin with…

  • Joops Laa

    Its also very interesting that at the end of the blog post Google is clearly trying to protect google.cn employees from reprisals/imprisonment.

    Sad times.

  • Joops Laa

    That’s complete bull. 17% of the market in chini is still a HUGE amount of revenue. At least try and make some sense.

  • Freedom

    How do you protect freedom for the people (Chinese) when the enemy is the government that represents the people?

    If Google was to shut down from China because of this are they doing the right thing?

  • Google lover

    They aren’t evil infact. Big differences!

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  • Jake

    So a company that willingly breaks another country’s laws wins points with you?

    I guess Blackwater must be your favorite company then..

  • http://www.web2asia.com George

    no surprise. :-/

  • tsmith

    It is common knowledge that the Chinese government does not want a foreign company to dominate search in China. Thus, it supports Baidu both inside and outside, in every way possible. Maybe the US and Europe should diss Baidu, but that would be playing the Chinese game. Over the next few years, the West/US vs Chinese form of capitalism will come to the fore in a big way. Maybe China will implode on its own (from civil unrest or choke from its own form of government corruption worse than Wall Street’s corruption).

  • Nate

    Man, what a move big-G. Kudos.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hong_Wu/649518306 Hong Wu

    Google doing the RIGHT THING! 100% supporting Google! China’s blocking sites and white-listing domains, it will soon be a giant intranet anyway. We call this Chinternet!

  • http://www.adisamckenzie.com Adisa

    wait, what? So the real reason is not “highly sophisticated and targeted attack” from China – but actually you are saying the truth in found in statements made by google’s Chinese competitor. I don’t even think you believe that… unless google comes out tomorrow saying steve jobs sold gmail passwords to bin laden – proving that is simply how google handles competition…

  • ispy

    Good, long over do.

  • Luis Perez

    Not for a company… Companies are created for making money.

  • Jpz

    Indeed.

  • d-d

    who’s optimist?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stefan_Menden/618165105 Stefan Menden

    I love Google for this. Well, and for Gmail, Docs, Calendar, Search, Analytics, AdWords, AdSense, AdManager, Chrome, Maps, Earth, Reader etc.

    We all know who in the long run will prevail.

  • moo

    A graph of US internet traffic to google.cn is hardly an interesting metric.

  • zxspectrum

    The numbers are old news. Google isn’t your friend..get over it.

  • anon

    It’s illegal for Google to pull out of China in China? really?!

  • Sean

    Are you seriously defending the Chinese government? What the hell’s wrong with you?

  • http://www.mebanefaber.com Mebane Faber

    Google talks about pulling out of China for free speech reasons, but decides to continue to run penny stock and investing scams ads in the US. I guess “Do no evil” doesn’t apply to the high paying AdSense campaigns from the scammers? Embarrassing.

  • zxspectrum

    +1

    baidu.com killed them long time ago.

  • Sean

    Good for Google. Although if I owned a huge corporation, I wouldn’t have even considered a Chinese operation in the first place.

  • The Kid

    The rest of the world should cut off the internet from China so they can’t hack us.

  • Chris

    There’s quite a difference between breaking another country’s laws, and threatening to cease operations if those laws are not subject to change.

    I could threaten to shut down my business unless my government waives any tax liability I have, and do it when they say no, but that doesn’t mean I’m guilty of tax evasion.

    This is a bold move by Google, and I’m very curious about the results. Time will tell.

  • Jake

    The big one? China’s not even going to feel this. It’s their manifest destiny to d-day the old world order.

  • http://thelostworld.us Colum

    I am in 100% agreement. Someone needs to stand up to them, and it looks like google is that one.

    Google + 50000000000000000000

  • Mark Percival

    Well according to some sources it’s around 30%, which is nothing to sneeze at.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu – Check out the competitors

  • trigger

    It depends on what a country’s law is. Iran and North Korea have their “laws” too.

  • Fred

    To the quesion: yep, absolutely.

    To your “guessed” assumption: No moron, it’s Google!

  • Aaron

    Someone needs to understand the difference of ‘morality’ and ‘legality’

  • Pablo Moreno Galbis

    They actually hold 29% of the market share in China, only Baidu with 60% is over them, and the next competitor is Yahoo with 5.6%… not too bad for the Chinese market.

    http://www.chinatechnews.com/2009/07/29/10230-google-china-market-share-lower-than-30-in-q2-2009

    I think it is a very ballsy move.

  • Jack

    Let’s not beat around the bush here. The mainstream media are not clearly saying what is going on here:

    The Chinese government employs large scale teams of hackers trying to break into U.S. government and business networks (and certainly other countries, as well).

    Screw the diplomacy. The Chinese government simply uses the reluctance to call them out in order to hide their most nefarious activities.

    Theft of information and sabotage is what they are all about. Oh, and something called oppression. Anybody want to hop onto one of their vast fleet of mobile execution buses?

    Their ruthlessness makes the old cold war Russia seem like a pleasant dream.

    While terrorism and various regional wars are certainly a worrying distraction, we should be seriously worried about China’s growing hunger for dominating the world beyond its borders.

  • Stephen King

    The Battle of 2010: Google vs. China.

    Straight from Sci-Fi…

  • Elena

    Your Blackwater comparison isn’t very apt. That situation involved murder (which is very much against US law as well) and this has to do with web censorship (which we have to some extent in the US but not in the case of when “the government doesn’t ‘like’ it”).

  • uh-oh

    This week’s PR Prize goes to … Google. Someone even bought a Nexus One because of this news.

    Seriously, what you thinking about? Business is business, and there are so much business there to deal with. Are you going to leave the largest car market if you are a car company? So are you going to leave China when they have the largest internet population?

    Google is just not capable to compete or play this game with Bidu. They have to gain some support from the world like you guys when wrestling with the government. But they will lose it of course.

    Any company’s only goal is making profit. Google, whatever you dream them to be, as a public company is no exception. When they don’t make money out of China, this is a very decent way to quit.

  • Alex

    I assume they got the Chinese gov. by the hand AND THEY HAVE EVIDENCE, that’s why such a bold tone.

    In any case – this is the right response when you catch a thief by the hand.

  • Nicolo

    oh please. the two scenarios are not similar.

  • Kevin

    For the first time in 12 days :P

  • http://www.teare.com Keith Teare

    This is a great stand… and will win out. The Chinese Government will not want Google to leave the country at a time when its primary goal is to be more integrated into world trade. I think there is a lot of politics here, and the economic impact on Google, even in China, will probably be good.

  • daniel richter

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/google.cn#trafficstats
    google.cn is ranked place 3 in China
    to avoid saying “you failed here” i’ll go with thank you for your comment

  • Doug

    Thanks for making that obvious point, Jake.

    This is exactly why I’ve always had a particular dislike of Gandhi, Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King and their ilk. Pure and simple: law breaking rabble-rousers. The sooner everyone falls in line and learns to respect the law, the better.

    And those who don’t? Let’em rot in jail. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

  • Alex

    That was a good joke. :)

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  • Stupidscript

    That’s pretty far out speculation, Aaron. When the government attacks you (I know, Google hasn’t accused the Chinese government of anything … yet), any company would pull back and take stock of a relationship with that country. I’m more than fairly certain that as the #2 search engine, close behind Baidu, Google wasn’t “failing” anything in China.

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  • Nick

    Not doing business is not breaking the law…

    Or is it illegal to remove software installed by peoples republic agents?

  • Chinese_are_good

    Please note that it is the Chinese government not the people. As we all know they are hard working good friends. But Chinese Gov. has problems. They recently stole a piece of India..
    http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/nov/16sld1.htm

    A nation becomes great because they are good not because they are a bully.

  • Lex

    okay, I’ll tilt Goog back on the positive column.

    Hopefully this is a principled stand and not just a temporary posture.

  • j

    I know see it that way–how else might one equate hacks on PC’s (aimed at gmail) to brinkmanship with the government over search engine censorship. Either they’re just making an excuse for an exit or really playing a huge-ass game of chess. Be interesting to see what the government says about it or if they even deny it in the first place…

  • Pat

    WTF! Get out of here, racist! Do you think this racial slur powered joke funny? If you do, I can come up with a ton related with whites.

  • http://www.cribsocial.com Ravinder Virk

    I think what really pissed google off was that these hackers stole some of google’s intellectual property and it was security breach on google. Secondly the post mentions that primarily human rights activists were targeted for phishing scam, clearly indicates that indeed Chinese Govt was involved. I am sure there is much more coming out of this as days follow. But I am really proud of google for doing the right thing instead of worrying about their revenue loss from this action.

  • Michael

    Only an absolute anarchist or an absolute idiot believes that all laws should be broken or all laws obeyed! Martin Luther King’s violation of laws enforcing separation of the races is not comparable to someone who violates laws against littering or murder.

    Three cheers for Google for trying to ensure that people in China have the same right to an unrestricted internet as the rest of us enjoy!

  • Pat

    I found you joke highly offensive to the Chinese people.

  • Rahul Krishnakumar

    You’re comparing apples and oranges. Winning human rights is not even comparable to killing innocent lives.

  • Googopology

    Interesting development. This is certainly a move that is both risky (making enemy, potentially hurting its business opportunity), and bold (taking the high road, garner goodwill and calling China’s bluff). I think this is more of a calculated risk that is worth taking as Google hasn’t reached a point of too high of a stake in China just yet.

    I hope Google is more consistent in the “Don’t be Evil” story though. Though they sound like they are now fighting against censorship which in general is a good thing, they are hardly doing so consistently. For example, just see for yourself what Google Suggest says when you type:

    Christianity is…
    Buddhism is…
    Hinduism is…

    and now:

    Island is…

    I guess I am picky on Google. But when they get all kinds of goodwill and credit with the “Don’t be Evil” mantra, we are entitled to holding them to a higher standard.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dillon_Amburgey/1201470064 Dillon Amburgey

    Compete only tracks US visitors, so those numbers are misleading.

  • http://www.penguinsix.com Andrew

    Oops, you’re right. But even if you do spell it right you’ll see some images starting to appear that weren’t there before.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chip_Norkus/523574487 Chip Norkus

    Reading the PR this seems to be a stab at gamesmanship between Google and the Chinese government first and foremost. If Google actually forfeits the Chinese market I will gladly eat my hat. It seems more likely to me that Google has found a clever way to apply global pressure to China in order to get something they want from the Chinese government. I do not see anywhere in the PR that they are currently serving unfiltered results in China, only that they will do that (and be immediately firewalled off) if some unspecified demands are not met.

    Specifically:

    We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China.

    This is very carefully worded to give the impression that Google will operate unfiltered in China or not at all, but it does not actually say that is the case. All it says is that they’re going to have a pow-wow with the Chinese government, find out if they can run unfiltered, and maybe if they can’t something bad will happen. This language is simply not strong enough to convince me that Google is really saying what has been interpreted.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan_Carl_Brown/638020658 Alan Carl Brown

    the correct spelling doesn’t show all of 1989 images

    good luck with this, Google.

  • http://alexwarofka.com/ Alex Warofka

    Wow – that was fast. And Google is clearly serious. The uncensored results are already appearing.

    For instance, a search for “六四事件” on Google.cn now shows the same results as a search on Google.com: http://bit.ly/7PVlAY

    However, it appears that the Chinese government is already striking back; from some locations within the PRC, sensitive keywords entered into Google.cn now result in a familiar “connection reset” error. From a different Chinese IP, the (uncensored) results appear.

    It will be very interesting to see how this plays out over the next several days/weeks – the implications could be very wide-reaching.

  • http://anyvite.com Dan

    Compete only measures US traffic…

  • Small Fish

    On what ground can Google imply that this attact is from Chinese government? Pretending like saints is kind of disgusting …

    Google China is losing continuously and it does not hurt much if they give it up. Smart strategy.

  • Rdl

    Wow, this is historic. It’s the old big comapny I know that have stood up to china. No doubt, some of this ha been fuelded by Chinese favoritism of baidu. It really gives them credibility in the search space and forces other big companies to consider their positions if they want to be percived as leaders.

    The Chinese hate loosing face, and this is a big slap in their face. Google has some HUGE BALLS– anyone want to do up ‘gOOgle’ logo with the appropriate illustration for the OO?

  • Sage R
  • Googopology

    Sorry about the obvious typo. Should have been:

    Islam is…

  • linnil

    How ignorant. China has the most internet users in the world for years.

  • http://robkohr.com Rob Kohr

    I think it is big. When a company like google pulls out of your market because of your government, it leads to further dissatisfaction in that government.

    If yahoo was a chinese company and it pulled out of the US because of US censorship, you would start asking questions.

    Google probably did the best thing by playing ball, becoming a significant though not leading player, and then walking out on them.

  • Lee Cooper

    Google… doing the right thing… maybe they’re not so evil after all.

  • teacherinchina

    Google is also getting out because of how difficult it is to be an ethical company there. Backdoor deals and online protectionism are huge there. Smear campaigns have been made by CCTV against google. Look at these links: http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/chinese-netizen-reactions-cctv-attacking-google/ and http://www.chinasmack.com/more/cctv-attacks-google-porn-links-fake-interview-exposed/ .

    For the past month, Chinese newspapers have been full of articles about google copying Chinese author’s works. It puts a bad spotlight on google. In a country full of plagiarism, it’s surprising that this one issue is on the chinadaily every few days.

    Google is getting out of China because they aren’t paying corrupt CCTV executives to smear baidu.

  • http://pouncer.com.au kaiynne

    I have a feeling your sarcasm may go over this guy’s head…

  • http://danielandchristopher.com/2010/01/13/google-fight-for-intellectual-property/ Google: Fight for Intellectual Property «

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  • P

    Yes, but even Baidu with 70% makes only ~200M in profit. Google knows that its basically failed and its just pulling out in move that it hopes will improve its image. If it really cared about ethics and had the balls, it wouldnt have snitched the human rights guys to the government a while back and also censored the engine (along with Yahoo, MS, etc).

  • lindos

    Another childish but successful PR from google.

    Just admit that you failed in China. Is it so hard to say “we failed”? When the operation cost is unbearable for google in China, what other options do they have.

    Telling the press the whole “Google VS Chinese government” thing is so silly. Oh wait, nobody even even know if it was true or not.

  • lindos

    Yea, google is the saint and anything standing in its way is evil.

    How silly.

  • lindos

    The way i see it is GooGLE. By pretending to be saint…

  • jenzo

    agreed. you dont run away when attacked.
    its not clear if the security hole was plugged and that subsequent attacks haven’t been successful.
    perhaps Google needs to severe China relations before it can more details but heck, this is huge…

  • Eric Schmidt

    I love proud idiots.

  • http://Mhambi.com Wessel van Rensburg

    Respect Google. This will have far wider repurcussions. Start of a new cold war?

  • GT

    They eat live monkey brains. They put lead in our kids’ toys. They cyber attack our country and companies. Stop buying made in china.

  • mark

    The Chinese government is not our friend, in fact they keep acting like an enemy. Human rights and freedom of speech are more important then money. Good for you Google finally someone has stood up to China. God knows Obama wont.

  • Tim

    Screw you, Jake.

  • http://www.defamer.com.au/2010/01/google-might-leave-china-over-hack-attacks/ Google Might Leave China Over Hack Attacks | Defamer Australia

    [...] an extraordinary blog posting, Google has all but accused the Chinese government of coordinating hack attacks on its servers, not [...]

  • http://www.btmedia.com Timothy Nichols

    Strong move, smart move. It’s needed.

  • reza sardeha

    What a bold move… Google still owns Baidu or are they going to drop Baidu as well?

  • http://jp.techcrunch.com/archives/20100112google-china-attacks/ Google、中国からの大型サイバー攻撃に中国市場撤退も

    [...] [原文へ] [...]

  • Sunil

    Yep, first Kai fu lee leaves Google and now suddenly, Google comes high up on moral ground. They have no problem giving details to US authorities on bloggers. sour grapes and hypocrisy.

    Who cares…US is more a police state than China…China says and does openly..US does it covertly and tells the public ohh its suicide or an accident or drug overdose..

  • middle

    Actually, I have a question, WHY would CHINA attack Google.cn “in CHINA”? I mean, why would they use some computers from out of China to do the attacking thing? They were the GOV, they have “things”, right?

  • Roy

    Au contraire my dear friend. Here a country, i.e. China, is breaking the law of every other country in the world and getting away with it, so far.

    Not sure how this will all pan out, but it is amazing that a company has stood up to China when our politicians have been bending over backwards to it.

  • http://www.netpaths.net/blog/google-following-the-right-path-with-dont-be-evil/ Google Following The Right Path With Don’t Be Evil

    [...] the full post and see reactions from around the [...]

  • Sunil

    I’m sure 90% of folks here have not visited China. Get over it, China does not care one inch what the west does ANYMORE.

    Remember the hanging of British drug dealer, the whole world went against China and China did not care.

    Google is a very small company to them. China is the worlds largest exporter. It has more partners than enemies.

    Google is a big loser here

  • Greg P

    it’s silly to say that google is pulling out because it is behind Baidu right now. #1: it’s still making money and #2: google offers lots of products that don’t make any money.

    just keeping yahoo from gaining market share would be enough of a reason to stay in china.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lee_Lloyd/1526897028 Lee Lloyd

    Uh huh, if being number two is reason for Google to pull completely out of a country claiming a fake attack, then why haven’t they pulled out of any of the other number of markets, like Japan, where they never got number one status?

  • http://www.blippitt.com/google-like-guns-n-roses-wants-chinese-democracy Blippitt.com

    Google, Like Guns N Roses, Wants Chinese Democracy…

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  • middle

    actually a litte interesting, 70% vs 20% is not close! There are many people, esp. univ students in CS, out there in China who prefer Google to Baidu, but Baidu is really doing, maybe, a better job in Chinese Search, esp. when providing services to general, non-professional users.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David_Murphy/13303029 David Murphy

    This is MAJOR, major news.

    GREAT move, Google! Takes balls, but you did the right thing. I’m so glad they spoke up and shared the problem & even linked to Cyber Warfare reports.

    Don’t let anyone doubt the Chinese do some pretty evil things.

    Man, I feel lucky to not to live in China right now.

    We need to redouble our civil liberties protections in the USA, however.

  • bikeyoga

    jake, seriously, if that wasn’t the assbackwards of all logic, i’m not sure what is.

    blackwater = accused of several violent human rights violations and financial misdealings in iraq

    china = accused of several serious violent human rights violations and implied in this case stealing financially beneficial IP that doesn’t belong to them.

    blackwater then is more like china and someone who opposes what the chinese gov’t is doing is more likely to oppose blackwater.

    i know that was long winded but it seemed necessary by that comment.

    no country’s law’s are above questioning. south africa before apartheid. the USSR & free speech.

    hell, the US before Civil Rights movement.

    sorry. ridiculous comment.

    kudos to google for doing this. Let’s see if this is serious or if it’s just smoke.

  • http://www.ge3k.co.uk Matt Auckland

    Great post. Glad Google is taking a strong stand point on this matter. China’s leaders need to wake up and smell the Java.

  • http://www.liujingke.com Liu Jingke

    Farewell, Google! The last door is closed for Chinese, we are left totally in darkness.

  • www.cnnic.cn

    cnnic.cn很sb,让一帮不懂互联网的人管理互联网,真实中国的悲哀,做为中国人,我很悲哀…

  • middle

    replying to you last sentence.

    THAT IS WHAT US IS DOING RIGHT NOW!

  • http://scale.io Timo Mika Gläßer

    Funny enough the data is still in the index. ;)

  • http://www.google.com soul-train

    WOW. This is why I love google. they are willing to stand up when its so easy to be like all the other companies that have no spine when it comes to china’s censorship.

  • http://andrewfong.com Andrew Fong

    Google.cn was showing that tank image (at least to US IP addresses) for the common “Tianamen” misspelling years ago. I used to pull it up as an example of how tricky censorship was.

    A better example of Google’s uncensoring is this query, which points to a certain banned Chinese “evil cult”. http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=%E6%B3%95%E8%BD%AE%E5%A4%A7%E6%B3%95&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&aq=f&oq=

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Foy_Rees/571035312 Foy Rees

    ouch.

  • Alex

    Jake you’re not seeing things clearly, despite the fact you think you do.

    1. To claim a country’s laws automatically = the right thing shows you have no understanding of the world and you are likely the type of person that enjoys hiding behind rules and blindly defending them for the sake that they are merely rules. This is not an admirable trait and has led to horrible things in the past and continues to do so every day.
    2. To imply an entity has no right to retaliate (especially in such a passive and clever way) when attacked is asinine. The Chinese government blatantly attacked them for the purpose of gathering information about people which may lead to harassment, persecution, and deaths. It is at the very least a violation of privacy we all would be screaming bloody murder about if any Western government did the same. Google is retaliating by giving the freedom to the Chinese people the rest of us already enjoy… and you’re crying foul?

    You made a snap judgement about Holden so I’ll make one about you. You’re a coward.

  • Jack

    Google Suggest is not editorial: it is based on queries people make and the search results.

    To put it simply: Google as a company does to filter what appears in Suggest.

  • JAke’s an idiot

    Jake you’re a fucking idiot.

  • http://www.igossip.com.au/?p=222 Google Might Leave China Over Hack Attacks | iGossip

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew_D_Smith/603064516 Andrew D. Smith

    Most of the national news sites are playing this as their number two story right now (behind the Haiti earthquake) but the closer you read that press release, the more it appears this could be massive.

    Google never says the Chinese government was behind these attacks, but that’s the obvious implication. Why on earth would a company respond to attacks from private hackers by abandoning its censorship agreements with China’s government? Why would private hackers be searching for info about Chinese dissidents?

    If, then, you accept the implication that this was China’s government and that Google has proof to that effect, you’d have to expect some sort of major reaction from the U.S. A sovereign nation cannot allow another country to wage cyber warfare against its companies.

    I suppose China could pretend that these were “rogue” elements in the government that have been fired — and we could pretend to believe them. But if that doesn’t happen, this could actually lead to a major diplomatic incident.

    I can’t see why so few news stories have made this connection and expanded the story beyond Google’s market position in China and the ethics of agreeing to Chinese censorship. Am I being paranoid?

  • Steve

    Yeah, I agree. Google is losing in China. This is the best way for them to save Google face

  • http://plankhead.com Zacqary Adam Green

    China doesn’t have the Internet. They have Chinanet and a few Internet sites that are okay.

  • http://CEnriqueOrtiz.com C. Enrique Ortiz

    Bold move by Google. A very hard but respectable decision for many reasons from “business respect” to “human rights”.

    Google has lots to lose here as China is such a large ($) market. No other company in this world right now has the cojones (and position) to make such move.

    It amazes me how the private sector continues to take the stand and define the new era of business and politics. The private sector will drive new ways of doing things, will drive how scientific research is done and brought to market, including the space program and energy and health. And it also will drive business and political “etiquette”…

    ceo

  • http://www.hearye.org/2010/01/big-changes-in-googles-china-strategy/ Hear Ye!

    [...] that the attacks were targeting the information of Chinese human rights activists. Significantly, TechCrunch has reported that: In light of the attacks, and after attempts by the Chinese government to further restrict free [...]

  • Ray

    respect the fact that porn is illegal in china just like chinese respect children porn is “bad” in the state. what’s wrong with defending chinese government in this sense?

  • http://www.chinasnippets.com/2010/01/13/gmail-china-backup/ How to Backup Your Gmail in China

    [...] has announced it’s contemplating leaving China and the ramifications might well be that in doing so their Gmail service will become [...]

  • http://anti-aol.livejournal.com/ Marah Marie

    Wrong. Of course Google “filters” it. Type any serious cuss word into your Google search bar or google.com’s search box and see what happens. No suggestions? Oh noes!

  • ken8899

    It is absolutely an extremely pleasant news for chinese people who keep their human consciences from being washed off. Million thanks to google for making its right decision for good people.

  • Uzi

    Google is loosing in china, thats true and there is a good reason why.
    Google DNS servers are constantly down and many of their service are inaccessible for large chunks of the day (google docs, gmail and image search).

    I wonder who paid who for this to happen…

  • Diablo

    Obviously, Pornography is just a alibi of China to avoid uncensorship to google china. If you will look at china’s past history on how it wants to try to hide all its ‘private affairs’ from the world, you can see that China are really trying to hide something.

    Google may lose its partnership with China, but he will get the support of the world not to mention human rights activist: More details: http://bit.ly/google-china-censorship-details

  • http://www.maestrosdelweb.com/actualidad/google-y-china/ Google se enfrenta al ejército digital de China

    [...] legal de Google nos quiere decir es que las condiciones han cambiado. Y con mucha razón. Google ha sido atacado junto al menos una veintena de compañias de diversa índole (finanzas, tecnología, medios, etc.) [...]

  • magnum

    So, here’s a question: Why does it really matter why they are pulling out? The fact is that they are pulling out. A more interesting question might be what the implications are for the search industry in both China and the West. If there are no implications than this conversation is probably not worth happening?

    More details: http://bit.ly/google-china-censorship-details

  • standCorrected

    Chip, I agree with you. It’s not that simple.

  • http://www.dirtybang.com/%e8%b4%a5%e7%b1%bb%e8%a7%82%e5%af%9f/google-%e5%b0%86%e7%a6%bb%e5%bc%80%e4%b8%ad%e5%9b%bd%ef%bc%88%e6%b6%88%e6%81%af%e6%b1%87%e7%bc%96%ef%bc%89.html google 将离开中国(消息汇编)

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  • Kevin

    i want to say thank you to google. for all the time you’ve been fight for freedom with us. and i’m really sorry to see you go.

  • Sujoy Gupta

    I believe Google cannot starting serving uncensored results as that will put all its employees in China at risk on account of having violated the law.

  • Rome

    When in rome……

    F*** Google!

  • backhm

    Great comments,if google quit from china,It will certainly make a impact for me.for me goole and baidu are fifty-fifty when I have something to search on internet.I hope this never happen.

  • abhi

    regardless of the best kind of security that money can buy, i doubt that even google can face upto the massive money and hacking potential that can be unleashed on it by a government backed organization. And google must be sensitive that once these rogue elements do get through (they will at some point) , the implications are tremendous. It might even cast a shadow on the safety of user data at google, across the world. Google stores too much information on individuals to take this concern lightly.

    The same hole that allows the data of human rights activists to be obtained, could be used for other individuals data.

    Hypothetically, what if google had to announce one day that 3% of their entire database was hacked and leaked. Imagine the impact on their standing.

    But having said that, if i had to trust anyone with my data, it would be google. Because we trust far less secure organizations on a day to day basis, with our data. And we cannot live without sharing data.

  • http://jardenberg.se/b/jardenberg-kommenterar-2010-01-13/ jardenberg kommenterar – 2010-01-13 — jardenberg unedited

    [...] Google Defends Against Large Scale Chinese Cyber Attack: May Cease Chinese Operations [...]

  • yeah

    i’m not sure i can absolutely say google is the big loser here, although i can list some negatives about going into china and pulling out of china, but i will WHOLEHEARTEDLY support your CHINA DOESN’T GIVE A FUCK statement, because it’s the absolute truth. 8% increases forever. all heil the yen or yuan and god bless china.

  • yeah

    they would use their own computers and people in china to do what they did, albeit covertly but without fear of being caught because they have already banked for this, the chinese government. china is not afraid. maybe it`s time people understood that, and they hate when others meddle in their bs.

  • Leo

    Google is not doing this for moral reasons. Google is purely about making money. They’re doing this as a stunt to look good. They’re not making money in China. They own around 20%-30% of the search market there. Good way to exit and appear “not evil”. This is equivalent to Google saying they will exit the US Market because they’re getting investigated by the DOJ.

  • yeah

    good on google for considering things within reason. what i`m kind of surprised about is that they didn`t find out about these cyber attacks earlier, or know to expect these type of attacks trageted to chinese nationals who have political or human rights interest. i mean is anyone surprised that china, instead of using baidu to get specific information abotu it`s people, which they probably already do and very efficinetly if the news reports are anything to go by, used google.cn as a decoy system to infiltrate private information on people they probably have targeted as threats to the government and it`s message. i bet they are either laughing that their plots got found out and at google`s threat, or they don`t care. it`s probably the latter. the chinese ability to snub common sense and world interest in order for strategic sense and self interests is an artform. bravo china.

  • http://www.2020systems.com VW

    Of course it does matter! If google pulls out, it will leave only the useless Alibaba, and the budget-burning Baidu as the only major ad channels for us american advertisers.

  • http://www.2020systems.com VW

    Would google leverage this attack to negotiate and bargain with the chinese government then prevail? (with the world and chinese online crowds’ support?)

  • http://www.2020systems.com VW

    google recognizes they will keep failing if they don’t do something dramatic. I am sure they will capture some hearts and traffic during the next few weeks.

  • http://www.2020systems.com VW

    My china colleagues are telling me that the only reason they are getting 9% growth is they are building the same roads again and again…so local officials can capture….

  • bo

    China already had hacked many U.S. and European’s countries.

    Watch the whole video:

    http://www.journeyman.tv/59049/short-films/cyber-warriors.html

  • Zhu

    Dude, as a Chinese, I have to correct you that that drug smuggler was not hung. He was injected to death. We are not that uncivilized as what you think with your tiny little brain.

    btw, don’t speak it out if you are not sure about something. that makes you look stupid… – -;

  • Zhu

    As a Chinese, I have to say something about this:

    google now performed in the same stupid way like what US gov likes to do!

    Don’t forget it was US gov and ICA which enticed and supported those “so called” Chinese humanright fighters and get them driven out of China. Now, those stupid “Chinese humanright fighters” are living with the salaries offered by CIA.

    As for 1989 Tiananmen, I’m glad it was suppressed. Cuz if not, China won’t be strong as it is today and would be splitted up, just like USSR.

    US gov is doing same thing in East Europe, Iran and any other country they want to take use of now… and sites like google, twitter and facebook are US gov’s best tools.

    So, why does google not ask US gov not to use it as their tool any more? Stupid search engine junk…

    For ppl like me, I can get any info I want, no matter it is blocked or not, cuz I know exactly what is right and what is wrong! but for those Chinese who has no high ability to say what is right and wrong, they will be used as tools easily by US gov to be against China. I don’t think any Chinese with responsibilities to his own country will allow this to happen!

    So, byebye, google!!! Bon voyage, you sucker!!!

  • http://www.newsandtricks.com fucc

    la notizia è disponibile anche in italiano sul blog:
    http://www.newsandtricks.com/2010/01/breaking-google-chiude-in-cina.html

    the news is available also in italian at the above adress

  • http://chinayouren.com/en Uln

    I like Google as well. And I like China. China has been running for thousands of years, Google a bit over a decade.

    G is a great company but tech people here should get some perspective. This is a big loser move by the G, and it will achieve absolutely nothing. I think it is even bad for Human Rights in China.

    All this has to be a mistake, who is writing that Google blog?

  • Zhu

    As a Chinese, I have to say something about this:

    google now performed in the same stupid way like what US gov likes to do!

    Don’t forget it was US gov and ICA which enticed and supported those “so called” Chinese humanright fighters and get them driven out of China. Now, those stupid “Chinese humanright fighters” are living with the salaries offered by CIA.

    As for 1989 Tiananmen, I’m glad it was suppressed. Cuz if not, China won’t be strong as it is today and would be splitted up, just like USSR.

    US gov is doing same thing in East Europe, Iran and any other country they want to take use of now… and sites like google, twitter and facebook are US gov’s best tools.

    So, why does google not ask US gov not to use it as their tool any more? Stupid search engine junk…

    For ppl like me, I can get any info I want, no matter it is blocked or not, cuz I know exactly what is right and what is wrong! but for those Chinese who has no high ability to say what is right and wrong, they will be used as tools easily by US gov to be against China. I don’t think any Chinese with responsibilities to his own country will allow this to happen!

    So, byebye, google!!! Bon voyage, you su-ck-er!!!

  • SharonW

    Uh, that was Yahoo who snitched on the human rights activist who then was thrown in jail for ten years, NOT Google.

    According to one analyst I read over at businessinsider aka silicon valley insider, Google’s business in China is about $600 million per year. Nothing to sneeze at.

  • http://devilsworkshop.org/ vivek

    Finally google proves that ethics are way more important than minting money. This will definitly spark up the human right activist in China as well as around the world. CIIRC will now have something to think over.

  • SharonW

    According to many articles, the hackers used the a common method of deflection, i.e. Taiwan proxy servers.

    C’mon people. This is GOOGLE. They know what they’re doing.

  • SharonW

    No, Baidu does a better job of offering up free music violating U.S. and world copy-right laws. That’s Baidu’s biggest draw.

  • http://devilsworkshop.org/ vivek

    That is for the first time I am reading first hand feedback about the Chinese censorship from a Chinese. Nobody including me is aware about this side of the coin.
    It has changed my perception about the google’s departure. Something to think over for the non US country netizens.

  • yeah

    i like google’s dont take no bullshit attitude. i live in china and totally support google’s pullout!

  • http://devilsworkshop.org/ vivek

    Neglect my comment below. That is a biased one.

  • Henchan

    Another interesting angle to this story is not the intentions of the Chinese Govt. or of Google, but what we may surmise about Google’s understanding of the will of the Chinese people.

    Might it be inferred that Google’s analysis of its vast data base is that the Chinese people would bring it more business in the longer term sans filtering than would be lost in the short term.

    In other words, if Google is a barometer it seems to be predicting more open information in China.

  • http://blog-fussball.de Eastern Germany

    @Stephen King: Yeah! I Hope Google will win!

  • chinese

    i am a chinese,:

    ” building the same roads again and again” , this is wrong , i live in the middle china’s village , it’s very useful……, not bad ,

  • Abe

    It’s Illegal to not censor stuff in china. It’s the law there.

    If google just shut down the search engine there, no problem, no laws broken. But google is openly defy against the law in China. That is illegal.

  • Abe

    Not only that, Corporation owe a Duty to its shareholder to maximize profit. It’s how capitalism works.

  • yeah

    yeah i think they cook the books, but you know what their reoccurring increase rate is actually a testament to the government and the amount of people they have got to buy in to the programs, because it’s their way or no way. i mean the rest of the world is supporting their exports, so i can’t really make moral renouncements about what the government does or what goes on in the country.

  • andreas moeller

    Google has almost 20% market share second only to Baidu who has around 60%. Thats not bad at all and not the reason.

  • yeah

    they wouldn’t win. they have to approach this in a way the chinese government does not expect. i think google’s blog post is one such step. actually i think the bottom part of the post showed which way google might end up leaning for a decision. i mean maybe this stance might interest china enough for them to listen to whatever google has to say, but as much as google has lobbed the ball to china for china’s turn, i don’t think they can leverdge this at all (especially without taking time to think about an etensive process/decision) because the chinese government has the upper hand.

  • Tony

    If Google has hard evidence that it was the Chinese government then they could really do some damage with that, given the high profile of Google in the West. It would make the news everywhere if they blatantly say it was government attacks. You would think that they would only only talk about pulling out of China if they really had something on them.

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/13/baidu-not-hacked/ Baidu.tw Wasn’t Hacked To Show Google (And How You Can Tell)

    [...] commentary in the wake of Google’s bombshell blog post from yesterday about its decision to stop censoring its search results and possibly withdrawing from the Chinese market all together after being hit with severe cyber [...]

  • andreas moeller

    zxspectrum ; everyone with a little insight knows that there is one main difference between Baidu’s and Google’s segments in China. Baidu’s segment is the massive number of relatively uneducated Chinese who has a lot of time on their hands to play silly online games. Google on the contrary has a firm grip on the Chinese people with secondary educations and those with international backgrounds. The trend is that as people in China move up the societal ladder they will shift to Google from Baidu. This means that Google has the opinion leaders and elite whereas Baidu has the masses. What does the masses wont? To be part of the elite. What happens then? They will very likely shift to Google. This is a long process though, but the problem as I see it is bigger for Baidu than for Google in the long run if Google is not being kicked out of China for its principles.

  • yeah

    geez. you don’t know any other chinese or non chinese who have been following the chinese governments obvious interest in subverting google? what this person says in terms of google being viewed as a geopolitical tool and extension of the american arm is accurate and nothing new. people who have been following the news, ie. like nartv mentions about citizen lab would not be surprised about what has actually been going on. this wasn’t done from people who hate these human rights activists, who are also disruptive and an inconvenience to the chinese government, and this wasn’t done by idiots who used taiwan as a smokescreen. this was executed by selectees of the chinese government who worked independantly and overall dependantly to effectively send messages while doing some kind of information reconnaissance. these events didn’t just happen, they were purposely planned. not too long ago there were news reports about breaches in the servers at the state deparment and that these threats were specifically coming from eastern asia. i bet it’ll come out that the chinese government had a hand in them one way or another, whether getting a front via russians or chinese via the front of us friendly regions.

  • yeah

    i think like people are saying don’t look at this in the terms of ethics. google is reacting. google is a company. what it’s doing as of now is ironic, but i personally think it’s a first good step on the initial first step of getting into china.

  • yeah

    well what they said they would do in the blog is essentially typical google motto. they want control. they want things to change in their favour. the only thing is they’ve got strong opposition and even if open is the way of the future, google does not have a crystal ball. don’t count the chinese governement out of the game yet. it’s barely started.

  • yeah

    it’s already making the news. it was definately in china, china backed, and even better, google is taking this public. let everyone talk.

  • http://zambardino.blogautore.repubblica.it/2010/01/13/google-in-cina-ci-hanno-spiato-da-oggi-non-censuriamo-piu/ Repubblica.it – Blog – Scene Digitali » Blog Archive » Google contro la Cina: e ora si vedono le pagine sul Dalai Lama

    [...] 10,48 Come si è arrivati a questo punto dai compromessi del passato: lo spiega Michael Arrington su Techcrunch, che ricostruisce i tentativi fatti dall’azienda a partire dal 2006 di trovare [...]

  • http://www.circololucedelsud.it/?p=23977 Circolo Luce Del Sud » USA verlangen von Peking Erklärung zu Attacken auf Google

    [...] amerikanische Blog Techcrunch mutmaßt, dass Google sich von seinem bisher wenig erfolgreichen China-Geschäft schon verabschiedet habe. [...]

  • http://blog.fczb.de/?p=563 China hackt | FCZBlog

    [...] wenn es stimmt, dass Google schon länger erwägt, sich aus dem für das Unternehmen bisher wenig attraktiven chinesischem Markt [...]

  • rj

    look, another ignorant idiot in the house. congrats.

  • http://www.techmanageronline.com/ John

    China today is hard to ignore. It has nearly 20% of the world’s population and a strong economy to boot. I am sure Google’s statements are meant to put some pressure on the Chinese government. It would be hard however, to withdraw completely from such a large market.

    It will surely be interesting to watch how things turnout.

  • rj

    it’s all relative, many countries has the internet developed to the degree that western countries have. but they will one day and china does have the number 1 internet user base in the world. and you need to educate yourself before you embarass yourself. cheers.

  • Nils

    Right now Chinese people produce stuff for us and continually devalue their currency. Thus we need to give them almost nothing for their work. Thanks a lot.

    What’s frightening, however, is the fact that they don’t realize this. +9% GDP. YEAH! So they send 9% more presents to us. YEAH!

    I just hope we won’t glide into a real (cyber)war in the long run.
    Imagine US government stopping to pay interest rates or even liabilities back to China.

    China stopping to export to US, US stopping to accept imports from China…

    There you go into economic cathatrophe. But right now China has to lose more than the rest of the western world.

    A recession in China directly leads to political unrest. Massive unrest.

    A recession in the western world leads to.. well. change of the leading party.

    It’s a real problem to live together with the Chinese people in peace. I even dislike them. And I don’t like that feeling. It is wrong.

  • tommy

    China is getting too powerful in economics and USA is loosing out.
    Seems like this Google-story is just a politically motivated agenda.

    I have worked and lived in China and also in the USA.
    The US-guys are just marketing-people, the Chinese-guys are hard-working-people.

  • http://www.outdoorlook.co.uk Ange

    Google is a big company to most countries in the world….I wonder how this will effect Chinese businesses? – I don’t think the Chinese govt will take this lightly.

  • Rich

    Tech aside for a moment. What rights do you think ‘you’ have to do that?

    And what rights does any government have to control ‘you’, the Chinese people, through miseducation and fear?

    It’s quite simple psychology: to create a community you create a common enemy that people can gather around. China have acheived that on an unprecedented scale with ‘the corrupt West’.

    Adamantly refuse those points but I admire Google for what they are doing. This is only good for Chinese users. The Chinese people don’t want filtered information. You don’t have a voice for fear of reprimand by the government but you should want this enough to fight for it.

    But you can’t do that.

    Don’t you see that you live under a shadow?

  • Rich

    A shadow carefully disguised to appear as the clear blue sky.

  • http://www.driventide.com/2010/google-remembers-not-to-be-evil/ Google Remembers Not To Be Evil – Takes A Stand « DrivenTide

    [...] a now widely published statement, a series of organized attacks on its infrastructure by people or groups with likely ties [...]

  • http://support.iyogi.net/ Kevin Parker

    It’s quite interesting to watch the Google stance on this a.k.a. Google for china…

  • http://tourismus-weblog.hs-heilbronn.de/?p=234 TOURpedo – der touristische Weblog der HHN » Internet-Zensur in China | Informations- und Meinungsplattform des Studienganges Tourismusmanagement

    [...] amerikanische Blog Techcrunch mutmaßt, dass Google sich von seinem bisher wenig erfolgreichen China-Geschäft schon verabschiedet habe. [...]

  • Brice (fr)

    Are you kidding?
    They don’t give a shit about Google!
    Plus the Google competitor (Chinese Baidu.cn) is sooo happy that Google is thinking about living the country…

  • Henchan

    Sometimes it can be useful to think of Google as just a machine. A set of algorithms which produce a large amount of data and a process that respects more than anything else analysis of that data. Epidemic prediction through query results, for instance.

    It’s not about The Google or The Chinese Govt. They are both powerful forces in their own right. But the group that they each are fighting over is what is really significant here. Intent of the people. Each party in its own way depends upon that.

  • http://11k2.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/cyberwar-china-gegen-google/ Cyberwar: China gegen Google « 11k2

    [...] googleblog via [...]

  • andreas moeller

    China is a giant but still this is probably the worlds most influential company. Google has the power of worldwide information distribution channels and has alot of goodwill everywhere (even more now) so they can rally enormous amounts of support. Wonder if the Chinese government is in over their heads here. Interesting that Google acts so bold now. Doesnt that imply that they have evidence against the Chinese government?

  • http://Blagoogle.com Redo

    Ok, But why google hack Baidu.tw !?
    google latest times want only money but not money no Big Money.

    thats bla

  • http://togocats.com igebadia

    like we have freedom of speech here.. it has been replaced by corporate censorship… say one thing out of the norm and your fired in this gossip girl world.. can anyone say dixie chicks

  • nurlip

    Sounds to me like the Chinese govt is trying to steal Google’s competitive advantage, their search algorithms, while silencing human rights activists at the same time.. I’ve read about too many other ‘very sophisticated’ attacks on the US and other countries to reach any other conclusion. Some of the biggest botnets ever created were found to be sourced from China. Although the govt may not be ‘directly’ behind it, what aren’t they involved in that their people do? I smell an ultra-cyber enemy growing while the whole world puts more of their debt into China’s wallet. Control of financial industries as well as internet domain=bad news.

  • Sage R

    “It’s quite simple psychology: to create a community you create a common enemy that people can gather around. China have acheived that on an unprecedented scale with ‘the corrupt West’.”

    Well, this isn’t entirely dissimilar from the “you’re either with us or against us” terrorism mentality created by Bush and his cronies.

  • Splover

    Enkuler de rire!

  • bluemonster

    About time. All the Google “geniuses” so focused on technology and market dominance, their “Don’t Be Evil” a joke. Anyone with normal intelligence saw this coming many moons ago. Being the Big Dog great till no more bone.

  • Tax

    China is going to take over the world and we’d all be kicked out of our burnt homes to surf on Chinanet.

    It’s gonna be the new reality, deal with it.

  • Tisha

    Chinese people are great friends, however China Govt. is a bully. They just took a big Chunk from India (source: rediff ). Pretty soon people with stop buying Chinese made toys full of Cadmium, or fish full of pollutants.

  • http://www.effisk.net effisk

    mer il est fou

  • http://www.sectionz.com shannon

    now this is one of the more interesting events so far this short lived year.

    Basically calling out the Chinese Gov for (sponsoring? performing? backing? benefiting from?) criminal activity around the world.

    It’s about time a corporation said it like it is.

  • http://www.skill-guru.com free driving test

    Looks like Mr Obama is backing Google. :)

  • a85

    Go Google! China is a human rights disaster and an economic tyrant.

    Now for manufacturing to move back to the civilised world…

  • teacherinchina

    This isn’t about Tiananmen. This isn’t about the US government. It’s about google securing their data. So much of google’s value is based on consumer trust that if it were ever significantly breached, their value would descend greatly.

  • Googopology

    I guess you didn’t bother to try my experiment. LMGTFU.

    Christianity is … (suggested as: bullshit, not a religion, a lie, false …)

    Hinduism is … (suggested as: monotheistic, false, polytheistic, the major religion of …)

    So far so good. “it is based on queries people make and the search results.”

    Now,

    Islam is … (NO SUGGESTION WHATSOEVER!)

    Yeah, I see now someone would say this is different than filtering search. True. You can say that, but you know you don’t think it’s right.

  • http://www.SurveyGizmo.com Derek Scruggs

    Oh please. “China says and doesopenly” only in the sense that they can’t censor what’s reported in Western media. The average Chinese citizen does not get nearly the range of info that citizens in western countries do. Even when Obama spoke there in Shanghai they selectively censored his comments.

    The USA is far from perfect and has done some really crappy stuff in the last several years, but this moral equivalence is BS.

    I speak as someone who was married to a Chinese citizen, has lived in China and whose former brother-in-law is a member of the Chinese Communist Party (which is true only of about 5% of Chinese citizens).

  • http://israelchinabds.wordpress.com Israel China BDS

    This is a great day for corporate responsibility. The most interesting thing about their statement is that “at least twenty other large companies from a wide range of businesses–including the Internet, finance, technology, media and chemical sectors–have been similarly targeted”

    Who are these companies? Adobe has been mentioned, but the others… Apple? Microsoft? Facebook?

    The lesson for foreign companies in China is: “If you collaborate with China, not only will you lose your good name, but China will stab you, and your customers, in the back”.

    http://israelchinabds.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/google-leads-from-the-front/

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/13/china-hacking-gmail-secure/ China Syndrome: Gmail Now Defaults To Encrypted Access

    [...] no doubt heard by now, Google is ending its censorship in China and as a result, may have to pull out of the country. As you also may have heard, this is the direct result of the attempted hacking of some Gmail [...]

  • dzer

    I live in Shanghai. I’m sad about Google’s move. I think this is a failure because Google just simply gave up . Although being censored, at least Google provided alternative information source which can help Chinese people know outside world. Who will suffer from google’s decision ? NoT Chinese Gov. It’s Google itself and Chinese people who like Google. After google’s quit, Chinese will have less open information source than before.

  • Conspiracy theorist

    Something tells me that the Chinese government didn’t just try to hack a few Gmail accounts, for government agencies try to do that all the time. Also, that’s not a good enough reason for Google to withdraw itself completely from China leaving it wide open for Bing to take over. I think the Chinese wanted copies of all Google accounts(gmail, docs, etc) that belong to Chinese people(or just the activists) such that they save time and money of trying to hack into their accounts. Google, whose man niche is having such horrendous amounts of valuable data, didn’t want it.

  • DTG

    我为你感到羞耻。@Zhu, You are really sucker !

  • http://aroundthesphere.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/tearing-down-that-great-firewall/ Tearing Down That Great Firewall? « Around The Sphere

    [...] no doubt heard by now, Google is ending its censorship in China and as a result, may have to pull out of the country. As you also may have heard, this is the direct result of the attempted hacking of some Gmail [...]

  • Steve

    Sage R, that’s true, and is partialy why Bush was one of the most unpopular presidents in US history.

  • http://www.droidnews.net Robert N. Lee

    Yeah, because slavery and oppression FTW!

    But that’s just stinky western thinking, I guess.

  • http://www.droidnews.net Robert N. Lee

    “Who cares…US is more a police state than China”

    You’re a fucking moron. Just FYI.

  • http://emmarogan.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/damned-humans-and-their-rights-what-about-the-share-price/ Damned humans and their rights! What about the share price?? « My place

    [...] TechCrunch [...]

  • http://www.techfieber.de/2010/01/13/google-vs-china-cyberwar/ Google vs. China: Cyberwar | TechFieber | Smart Tech News. Hot Gadgets.

    [...] [Link] Diesen Artikel Twittern, Social Bookmarken, Drucken oder per E-Mail versenden: [...]

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/13/nexus-one-20-billion-google/ Can The Nexus One Add $20 Billion To Google’s Market Value?

    [...] In fact, if you look at Google’s stock price on the day before the Nexus One was confirmed, it was $590, and it rose to $627 just before the official launch on January 5, adding nearly $12 billion to Google’s market cap in that time alone. Of course, there were other factors contributing to the stock’s rise during that time, but an extra $20 billion on top of Google’s current $185 billion market cap is not unthinkable. (The stock today is trading at $585, after the disclosure that it might be exiting the China market). [...]

  • Peng

    This could be a total lie just to have something to against Chinese gov like US gov does all the time. People need solid true, names dates, named account and pieces of information compromised for such a statement to be sound. Also, originate from China doesn’t mean anything to do with Chinese people of Chinese gov. Could be other countries’ agents.

  • http://yoshy.wordpress.com/2010/01/14/links-for-2010-01-13/ links for 2010-01-13 « 個人的な雑記

    [...] Google Defends Against Large Scale Chinese Cyber Attack: May Cease Chinese Operations (tags: google censorship) [...]

  • http://benjamindavidsteele.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/google-vs-china-capitalism-vs-communism/ Google vs China, Capitalism vs Communism « Marmalade
  • Devil’s Advocate

    While his comparison is not quite right, I think you might be missing the bigger point.

    Many countries, including the US, have censorship laws. As someone mentioned earlier, the US believes child pornography is illegal but adult pornography is ok. Why is it not okay for some other country to believe all pornography is illegal? or sites that tell you how to make bombs, etc, etc.

    Here in the west, we are very convinced that the way we do things is the only good way and it’s the only good way. Maybe we’re over stepping ourselves on some of these things.

  • http://facegle.com TrungNgo

    Yeah! … ++++1 GO GOO GOOGLE GOOGLE!!!
    … not censor is the right thing.

    .if China Government have nothing 2 hide, they wouldn’t need to block anything. Tiananmen is an example.

    .I totally respect Google decision.

  • Walker Williams

    As someone who lived in China, and who’s brother currently lives in China i think you’re absolutely wrong. It’s a huge slap in the face that a major corporation would publicly come out and accuse a government as ‘respected’ as China wants to be of attempting to hack them (and having the state department back them up).

    It also could start a domino effect if a few other companies decide to pull the plug in the midst of the media frenzy. The more companies that back out, the more pressure on those who have remained.

  • http://www.benstechshow.com/2010/01/13/bens-tech-show-ep-66-banned-from-the-great-wall/ Ben’s Tech Show – Ep #66 – Banned from the Great Wall | Ben’s Tech Show

    [...] cameras with audio in public? Termination fees for nexus one come from both google and t-mobile Attacks on Google from China China bans Wired.com IMDB banned in China Old computers get young with ssd upgrades Unbrackable [...]

  • hoho

    im pretty sure almost everything in your house in somewhat linked to china…..so yea, perhaps you can channel down the hatred

    p.s i dont hate any country,culture is very interesting for me, plus….respect is important

  • Risk

    Your comments made you look very stupid

  • Peter S.

    I support google in a lot of matters, including their response.

    Well, as an aside I think this is what you get from getting from studying at Stanford, where the founders started. A lot of knowledge, dedication. But your fair share of idealism and sticking to the principles that can let you grow.

    By making it public, they defended their users – the people that they are accountable for.

    The business development side might be a bit tricky for now, but it always is in China.

    What is important was that their cyberinfrastructure was attacked and their IP exposed. They have to protect their cyberinfrastructure and IP against hackers. If it so happens that the hackers are highly ranked officials,

  • Peter S.

    I support Google’s current response. They have to protect their cyberinfrastructre against exposure to hackers and keep their users, the people that they are accountable for.

    The business development in China will be a bit tricky for now, but it always is.

  • evets sboj

    Ah! So? Suki yak i

  • Ryan

    You know Democracy works only with Democracy. Internet and Google fosters democracy. Essentially it is difficult to sustain and grow in a place which is non-democratic.

    Google should spread its wings more in countries that are democratic and where freedom and human rights are respected.

  • NDev

    Go Google!!

  • chen

    yes we know it, but we could not do anything, in the USA you can buy a gun in a shop, but in china, you have no weapons, so how can we fight against the gov? It is not that easy dude, we chinese are not stupid , we just not as lucky as you born in a better place. Do not speak like GOD, save chinese people needs war. By the way, I’m going to move outside of china in a few years, all my classmates and friends plans to do that

  • chen

    I am chinese, you can take a look at the heafquarter building of CCTV in Bejing, it costs our gov 2 billion USD. But it was designed according to a human cock and pussy!! I know this is crazy, but Chinese people is not stupid, the gov is, and the truth is, the gov officers are not stupid, they just want money, do you know how much money they can grab by building such a shitty thing!!?? Such builds is the reason of the growth in china, the gov just made a lot of useless invests with our tax!!! we suffer a 49% high tax in china!!! fuck all communists!

  • chen

    the chinese gov have hired a lot of people to post favorable reviews, don take such money son of a bitch, that leads to KARMA

  • http://support.iyogi.net/ Kevin Parker

    Google should response that way…It was necessary for them to take such stance…Hackers should be omitted from the current cyberinfrastructure..

  • behind the online great wall

    I appreciate google’s attitude on censorship.

    As for the cyber-hacking stuff, my thinking is, those attacks were most likely not from gov-backed organization, but rather from some other sources, cus the gov has every other means to intercept any email without having to hack an account using a technique like phishing.

  • pp

    if you look using Chinese words 天安门 you will see non change, this is very strange

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/14/google-china-holiday-leave/ Google China Employees Given Holiday Leave, Networks Being Scrutinized

    [...] said Jan. 12 in a blog post that it had been subjected to cyber attacks originating from China along with 20 other companies (reportedly including Yahoo), prompting the [...]

  • HereGo

    It’s a huge slap in the face that a major corporation would publicly come out and accuse a government as ‘respected’ as China wants to be of attempting to hack them (and having the state department back them up). …yeah, how Google thin about this? the greatest Internet company was hacked ?

  • HereGo

    sad..Google, something really behind this show?

  • Jerome

    This isn’t about censoring porn though. China censors everything that could put the central government in a bad light or make the people desire more freedom.

    Censoring is wrong anyway (yes, even censoring an adult’s access to porn). Free speech is a double edged sword and you have to take the good with the bad. If you remove one of those edges the sword become’s unbalanced and ends up hurting the people.

  • Jerome

    Again, this isn’t about porn… China censors for political reasons and uses “morality” as a cover. Is censoring the president’s speech in China censoring porn? How about censoring elements of their own history? Is chasing down dissenters stopping porn?

    Just like in the USA, politicians have dirty agendas and getting the people all worked up over a useless moral issue is a great cover. Only in China, their tracking and censorship ends in human rights abuses and death.

  • Jerome

    Blocking a country from the internet would be interesting, but in the case of China they would probably like that.

  • http://azitravel.com/blog taige

    is it possible for china to continue hacking google? i think so. then why does that affect google’s operations in china?

    also can china just buy a lot of google shares and take it over?

  • http://eric-blue.com/2010/01/14/weekly-lifestream-for-january-14th/ Eric Blue’s Blog » Blog Archive » Weekly Lifestream for January 14th

    [...] ’starts war’ with China http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/12/google-china-attacks/ [...]

  • Rigved

    Well done Google….

  • oldgood

    Google只是想找一种体面地方式退出中国市场,以掩盖其在中国大陆市场的败绩.其高举道德旗帜只是为了赢得一个体面的转身,以及美国政府的欢心.如果看看Google在印度帮助印度当局镇压民意的举动,也许你会发现 Google的双重标准最终只是为了其自身利益.Google毕竟是一个公司,而公司是追求物质利益的,他们要为股东负责,而不是为了世界的和平负责.

  • http://www.iyogi.net Daina Thomas

    I agree with you .. they use very cheap quality raw materiel .. for the products they export .. its nt safe to use them ..

    Best,
    Daina

  • http://www.techgearx.com/how-the-eff-lost-its-way-by-defending-hate-mongers-and-tunnel-rats/ How The EFF Lost Its Way By Defending Hate Mongers And Tunnel Rats |

    [...] statement by the EFF makes me wonder whether it has reached this stage and needs to have its “Google China” moment. Michael Arrington wrote in 2007 that the “EFF may be getting a tad overzealous in its [...]

  • http://blog.deobald.org/archive/2010/01/17/quergelesen-2010-01-17/ blog.deobald.org » Quergelesen 2010-01-17

    [...] Abzug aus dem größten und am schnellsten wachsenden Internetmarkt der Welt in Kauf. (siehe auch TechCrunch, Netzpolitik, Verivox, [...]

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/17/mcafee-operation-aurora-2/ McAfee Calls Operation Aurora A “Watershed Moment In Cybersecurity”, Offers Guidance

    [...] McAfee last week identified a vulnerability in Microsoft Internet Explorer as a key vector in the cyberattacks that hit Google and over 30 other companies in a high-profile, multi-staged and concentrated effort [...]

  • http://www.techgearx.com/mcafee-calls-operation-aurora-a-%e2%80%9cwatershed-moment-in-cybersecurity%e2%80%9d-offers-guidance/ McAfee Calls Operation Aurora A “Watershed Moment In Cybersecurity”, Offers Guidance |

    [...] McAfee last week identified a vulnerability in Microsoft Internet Explorer as a key vector in the cyberattacks that hit Google and over 30 other companies in a high-profile, multi-staged and concentrated effort [...]

  • http://www.jimmimeilstrup.com/2010/01/google-og-den-store-kinesiske-firewall/ Google og den store kinesiske firewall | Jimmi Meilstrup

    [...] firmaet skiftede holdning, efter at dets servere var blevet udsat for en sofistikeret hackning, hvor de kommunistiske myndigheder havde fået adgang til kinesiske menneskerettighedsforkæmperes [...]

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/17/the-price-of-google-in-china/ The Price Of Google In China

    [...] news this past week that Google would cease the censorship of its search results in China, and could well be forced to entirely halt operations in the country as a result, is quite simply [...]

  • http://webtrendsng.com/blog/weekly-web-recap-second-week-of-january/ Web Trends Nigeria » Weekly Web Recap Second week of January

    [...] Google Defends Against Large Scale Chinese Cyber Attack: May Cease Chinese Operations [...]

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/18/baidu-cto-quits/ Baidu CTO Yinan Li Quits, Days After COO’s Departure

    [...] its bombshell blog post about the ‘Operation Aurora’ cyberattacks and its decision to stop censoring search results on its Chinese [...]

  • http://thanhdlu.com/2010/01/do-you-have-the-balls-to-walk-away-from-1-3-billion-potential-customers/ Do You Have the Balls to Walk Away from 1.3 Billion Potential Customers? | thanh.d.lu

    [...] Walk Away from 1.3 Billion Potential Customers? The recent shake up by Google last week in their decision to provide an unfiltered search rather than one of censorship in China prompted many opinions and discussions about business and [...]

  • http://www.programmerfish.com/google-vs-china-censorship-and-attacks/ Google VS China, censorship and attacks | ProgrammerFish

    [...] McAfee last week identified a vulnerability in Microsoft Internet Explorer as a key vector in the cyberattacks that hit Google and over 30 other companies in a high-profile, multi-staged and concentrated effort [...]

  • http://www.americanslikethissite.com/uncategorized/beware-of-internet-explorer/ Beware of Internet Explorer | Americans Like This Site

    [...] advised that users don’t use Internet Explorer due to security holes used in recent attacks on Google.  Take this warning as you will, but I would certainly advise all IE users to move on to bigger [...]

  • http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com EricaThunderpaws

    As far as I’m concerned, Google is in disrepute.

    An Open Letter to Google’s Censorship Team
    http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/01/open-letter-to-googles-censorship-team.html

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/19/microsoft-ie-china-patch/ Microsoft To Patch IE Separately As The Web Gathers With Pitchforks Around IE6

    [...] Chinese attacks on a number of large web companies recently. As you have no doubt heard, this included Google, which prompted them to say they would stop censoring search results in China, and could be kicked [...]

  • http://www.techgearx.com/microsoft-to-emergency-patch-ie-as-the-web-gathers-with-pitchforks-around-ie6/ Microsoft To Emergency Patch IE As The Web Gathers With Pitchforks Around IE6 |

    [...] Chinese attacks on a number of large web companies recently. As you have no doubt heard, this included Google, which prompted them to say they would stop censoring search results in China, and could be kicked [...]

  • http://www.gadgets.mcgames.biz/microsoft-to-emergency-patch-ie-as-the-web-gathers-with-pitchforks-around-ie6/ Microsoft To Emergency Patch IE As The Web Gathers With Pitchforks Around IE6 | Gadget Mania

    [...] Chinese attacks on a number of large web companies recently. As you have no doubt heard, this included Google, which prompted them to say they would stop censoring search results in China, and could be kicked [...]

  • http://www.brothersdiary.com/2010/01/18/the-price-of-google-in-china/ The Price Of Google In China « Brothers Diary

    [...] news this past week that Google would cease the censorship of its search results in China, and could well be forced to entirely halt operations in the country as a result, is quite simply [...]

  • Bayanda

    You guys are busy attacking each other about whose right and whose wrong. You seem to forget that Google is only a company and China is a country. I fail to understand why a company would try and exercise its powers over a country and nation. Call me crazy but as an observer of this whole shit, i fear the US is up to no good again. Just like the “weapons of mass destruction”. What happened to them? Its time for the whole world to wake up! Including you americans.I’m proudly SA!just being objective!

  • Right Here

    Google can pull out if they want to but the Chines culture and economy wont come to a hult!!!!!!!!!!!! The US will not control everything! Grow up people! If youy hate China and its people, simply dont buy their stuff and dont be friends with them!! Now thats a bit difficult hey! Go China!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.lytechnology.com/mcafee-calls-operation-aurora-a-%e2%80%9cwatershed-moment-in-cybersecurity%e2%80%9d-offers-guidance/ Ly Technology » McAfee Calls Operation Aurora A “Watershed Moment In Cybersecurity”, Offers Guidance

    [...] McAfee last week identified a vulnerability in Microsoft Internet Explorer as a key vector in the cyberattacks that hit Google and over 30 other companies in a high-profile, multi-staged and concentrated effort [...]

  • http://www.catshanghai.com/blog/2010/01/22/google-and-china/ Catshanghai » Google and China

    [...] Google Defends Against Large Scale Chinese Cyber Attack: May Cease Chinese Operations [...]

  • http://tropitech.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/freedom-to-connect-and-collaborate-online/ Freedom to connect and collaborate online « Tropical Technology

    [...] comes in the wake of attacks on Google’s infrastructure in China and last year. Not only Google was affected, but also at least twenty other large companies from a [...]

  • http://www.techgearx.com/google-reigns-supreme-in-2009-worldwide-searches-but-microsoft-sees-faster-growth/ Google Reigns Supreme In 2009 Worldwide Searches But Microsoft Sees Faster Growth |

    [...] considering the whole Google-China brouhaha. Google said in a blog post that it had been subjected to cyber attacks originating from China along with 20 other companies (reportedly including Yahoo), prompting the [...]

  • http://www.lytechnology.com/baidu-cto-yinan-li-quits-days-after-coo%e2%80%99s-departure-2/ Ly Technology » Baidu CTO Yinan Li Quits, Days After COO’s Departure

    [...] its bombshell blog post about the ‘Operation Aurora’ cyberattacks and its decision to stop censoring search results on its Chinese [...]

  • jay

    I think people better start taking notice of the Chinese. I think they are doing more than attacking google. I think they are attacking many US businesses. My server is attacked on a daily basis with IP address coming from China. I think they are trying to attack much of our systems to gain knowledge and find weakness in much more than our military & technology but our way of life.

  • Cole

    Keep up the great work google..

  • http://www.cmdrfenix.org/2010/02/20/that-long-golden-road-to-china/ That long golden road to China – CmdrFenix.org

    [...] was mandating. It looked like for once, a corporate entity was standing up to them. That was until China launched a pre-emptive strike against Google. Let’s not mince words. I don’t think anyone has any doubt about who did [...]

  • http://www.brunotrani.info/blog/2010/03/02/gmail-security-enhancements-expected-tuesday/ Gmail Security Enhancements Expected Tuesday | bruno trani dot info

    [...] changes are likely in response to the Chinese security incident from earlier this year. A secondary line of security for users would have avoided the Twitter [...]

  • http://www.benjaminbdaniels.com/2010/03/14/corporate-diplomacy/ Corporate Diplomacy | Benjamin B. Daniels

    [...] News that Google will be shuttering google.cn isn’t entirely surprising; the feud has been ongoing for some time now. What’s really interesting to see is the manner in which China, Google, and the United States have addressed the conflict. Google and China have been negotiating directly throughout the entire affair, just as two sovereign governments might handle a squabble over territory. China has even gone to the point of launching cyberattacks against Google. [...]

  • http://www.gordonchoi.com/google-exits-china-ends-chinese-operations-can-baidu-replace-google-20100315 Google Exits China, Ends Chinese Operations, Can Baidu Replace Google

    [...] again shows signs to exit China. In January 2010, Google disclosed the large scale attack on its infrastructure and made an official announcement to stop search [...]

  • Manny

    http://googlevschina.wufoo.com/forms/google-vs-china/

    I am curruently writing a paper on Google v China and i prepared a survey that I would like people to fill out if possible use the link above and fill out my survey

    Thank u

  • http://daily50.com/?p=74 Daily50.com » Google Shuts Down Chinese Search, Redirects To Hong Kong

    [...] and is now redirecting visitors to Google.com.hk. This is in response to the widely reported cyber attack on Google in December, Google [...]

  • http://michaelzimmer.org/2010/03/22/googles-new-approach-to-china-isnt-to-end-censorship/ Michael Zimmer.org » Blog Archive » Google’s “New Approach” to China isn’t to End Censorship, But Simply to Leave

    [...] January of this this year, Google was the victim of a cyber-attack that originated from China. In its description of the attacks, Google noted that [...]

  • http://www.seoboy.com/submitted-to-the-success-planing-in-the-shadows-of-baidu/ Submitted to the Success! – Planing in the Shadows of Baidu | The Adventures of SEO Boy

    [...] Google has had issues on both fronts – And then there was the Cyber attack in December 2009. [...]

  • http://www.sinosplice.com/life/archives/2010/04/01/google-strikes-back-with-new-firewall-software Google Strikes Back with New Firewall Software | Sinosplice

    [...] has two forms: a Gmail plugin to keep your account secure from Chinese hackers (AKA the “human rights activist version”), and a desktop application which filters out requests to or from Chinese IP [...]

  • IamMitch

    Since when is 20-30% of a market share failing? That’s still hella money that Google is potentially backing out of on a moral stand point. When’s the last time you’ve ever heard of a corporation doing anything without a monetary motive besides Google?

  • http://enduringamerica.com/2010/04/02/the-great-nuclear-race-google-v-iran/ The Great Nuclear Race: Google v. Iran (Arrington) | Enduring America

    [...] which has been shaken by its inability to counter Chinese censorship and hacking efforts, may be engaging in enrichment research as part of a new effort to simply protect itself from [...]

  • http://www.darknessdreams.net/2010/04/01/googles-2010-april-fools-folly Google’s 2010 April Fools Folly « Darkness Dreams

    [...] which has been shaken by its inability to counter Chinese censorship and hacking efforts, may be engaging in enrichment research as part of a new effort to simply protect itself from [...]

  • http://www.rofik.com/web/?p=124   Exclusive: Google To Go Nuclear by Rofik.com

    [...] which has been shaken by its inability to counter Chinese censorship and hacking efforts, may be engaging in enrichment research as part of a new effort to simply protect itself from [...]

  • http://www.lesbnb.com/2010/04/how-to-prevent-cyberattacks/ How to Prevent Cyberattacks | LesBnB.com

    [...] for eight months now. In recent weeks, there have been China-based attacks on Yahoo! and Google users, and computer spies launched an attack from China and stole terabytes of data on the Air [...]

  • http://walteryu.com/?p=437 Smart Grids Now Closer to Reality | Walter Yu, P.E., LEED AP

    [...] most of us assume hackers are after information, such as with the recent Chinese cyber attacks on Google servers, but some hackers serve the interest of other countries looking to disrupt or [...]

  • http://socialshoppingnews.landheremedia.com/2010/05/20/zynga-enters-asia-with-acquisition-of-gaming-startup-xpd-media-opens-office-in-beijing/ Zynga Enters Asia With Acquisition Of Gaming Startup XPD Media; Opens Office In Beijing | Social Shopping News

    [...] sources that there’s trouble in paradise with Google’s Beijing staff after the search giant threatened its pull-out of the market earlier this year, so perhaps Zynga will be able to poach talent from [...]

  • http://reviewsmanual.com/zynga-enters-asia-with-acquisition-of-gaming-startup-xpd-media-opens-office-in-beijing.html Zynga Enters Asia With Acquisition Of Gaming Startup XPD Media; Opens Office In Beijing | Reviews Manual

    [...] some sources that there’s pain in region with Google’s Peiping body after the see colossus threatened its pull-out of the mart early this year, so perhaps Zynga module be healthy to poach talent from [...]

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