Video Professor Tries To Bully Washington Post, Fails
Michael Arrington
Nov 28, 2009

Video Professor continues to be angry that I called them a scam in my original Scamville post. They’ve gotten nowhere reaching out to me directly (more on that below), so now they’ve tried complaining to the Washington Post, which has syndicated our content since 2008. The Washington Post stood firm beside us today and kept our original post as written. Good for them.

Essentially Video Professor is arguing that they didn’t have the chance to respond to our post before we published, and that in general we aren’t behaving very journalistically.

One of my favorite habits of journalists is that they refuse to state an opinion. Instead, they find a source to say whatever it is they want said and then quote them. And when I say “favorite,” what I really mean is that I hate it.

The story the journalist writes has the look of objectivity but really it’s just the same as if the journalist wrote what she or he meant, directly, in the first place. A gold star journalist will then find a “balancing” quote from someone else, often the person or entity being attacked. “When did you stop beating your wife,” etc.

I prefer to just skip all that nonsense and get right to the meat of a matter. And most of my favorite bloggers do the same. None of us have the audacity to think that we are your only news source. You can find other opinions elsewhere, and judge them on their merits, too.

The Video Professor Scam

Video Professor was a side note in our original Scamville post, just one of a bunch of scams that were making their way into social games on Facebook and MySpace. But now we’re focused on them like a laser.

Video Professor is unlike mobile scams which look to get a relatively small $10 – $20/month subscription on your mobile bill and hope you never notice. They go for the big kill: $190 – $290 charged to your credit card on time.

I haven’t found the Video Professor scam on Facebook social games since the Scamville posts, but the site is still live, and there are still lot of links from Google and Facebook (they still advertise directly on Facebook).

What you see when you first hit the site depends on how you got there – directly or via an advertising partner. The least scammy version is what you see if you go to videoprofessor.com directly. On the home page in very small font is a statement that you are going to be charged $290 if you engage in a transaction with them. But that’s the only on-screen disclosure you’ll see. Click on a product and go to the next page and you are told you get lots of stuff for free, all you have to do is pay up to a $10 shipping charge. You choose your product and you’re on to the checkout page. Nothing is stated about the $290 charge. After that you are on the final checkout page, showing a total price of $4.56. There’s no fine print, just two links on the page to pages with hugely long agreements with text hidden in the middle of it all that you are actually being sent tons of products and you’ll be charged $290 for them all if you don’t cancel in ten days.

Needless to say, people who get this stuff either don’t read fine print and are charged, or try to return it. There are hundreds of user complaints about refunds not being paid. 271 complaints to be exact, on RipoffReport alone.

I’ve put the purchase flow at the bottom of this post. Remember that this is the least scammy version I’ve found (here’s how they lured people in from Facebook a couple of weeks ago). For users who hit the site via Facebook, Google or other advertisments, it’s even scammier.

Is This A Scam?

You’re damn right it’s a scam. Users are obviously being tricked into buying something they don’t understand and wouldn’t want even if they did understand the details. The company says they comply with federal and state laws. But they continually refine the landing and checkout pages to comply with the bare minimum of legal requirements while maximizing ROI. Jump to 3:15 of this video for a description of how services like these trick users into buying useless products.

Here’s an easy way to determine if something is a scam – would users pay for it if they knew exactly what they were buying? In Video Professor’s case, the answer is no, and the company has to resort to tricking the user into paying nearly $300 for a bunch of CDs. Our governments should be protecting us from this nonsense, but they can’t or won’t. I’ll be damned if I’ll stop writing about it, though.

Here’s what people have to say about video professor. See this article and comments, as well as Amazon and epinions reviews.

And to the people behind these companies – how do you sleep at night knowing that you are nothing but a deadweight loss to society, taking money from people who aren’t Internet savvy enough to know they’re being scammed? When you’re 80 and look back at what you’ve done with your life, is this really what you want to have spent your time doing?

History Of Threats

I’m not surprised that Video Professor is going to so much effort to shut me up – this is how they do business. Video Professor has gone after people who’ve criticized the company. Some of the links in this article pointing to other criticisms are now dead links – victims of litigation?

When Video Professor sent me an email after my post arguing that they weren’t a scam, I replied “It’s a huge fucking scam. And you know it.” Which pretty much summed up my position on the matter. Here’s the letter they sent to the Washington Post. Note that they argue that they simply want to tell their side. I argue that their website tells their side of the story:

Dear [removed],

[removed] referred me to you, after we inquired about this story:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/01/AR2009110100018.html

In the story, Mr. Arrington accused us of being a “Scam.” Mr. Arrington never contacted us in advance of making this charge for an opportunity to present our side of the story.

Assertion with attribution.

We contacted Mr. Arrington, and essentially answered the questions he didn’t ask of us prior to writing the story, and it appearing in the online edition of the Washington Post.

His response to me was as follows:

“It’s a huge f*cking scam. And you know it.” ( I replaced the “u” with the asterisk in case your filters prevent this sort of language from reaching your inbox)

Two question sir:

1. Is it now the policy of the Washington Post, either in print or online editions to make such assertions, without first contacting someone prior to accusing them of being a Scam?

2. Is it now the policy of the Washington Post, either in print or online editions to have their writers respond to inquiries with the “F” bomb?

For the record, and the point we tried to make with Mr. Arrington, we are not a scam. We are members of the BBB with whom we maintain an “A” rating. The BBB reviews all of our marketing materials on a regular basis. We also are in full compliance with all rules and regulations of the FTC.

All we ever asked was a chance to offer our side. Mr Arrington would then have been free to “call it as he saw it.”

But we were essentially told to “F-Off”

I’d appreciate your thoughts sir and also your time and attention.

Yours truly,
Brian D. Olson

Brian Olson
Vice-President of Public Affairs
Video Professor, Inc
303-232-1244 Ext 380

The Washington Post’s response? In a nutshell, “you’ll have to discuss directly with the editors at TechCrunch.”


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  • jon

    I always see the commercials they run at night and sorta assumed it was a scam, but didn’t really know for sure. Now I do!

    “Try my product.” LOL

  • http://ppmartin.asia ppmartin

    It’s generally good to be politically correct, to get the other side’s view, etc. However, there are situations like this one where it’s plain pointless to go through such steps. How to decide? In my books, it’s called “common sense”. Well done, Michael!

  • http://cybersweetness.com Gebadia Smith

    I think all those websites that use free but need a creditcard are a scam… they are banking on you forgetting to remove your card. Even more puzzling is they say it is not secure to cancel your account online. This baffles me since it was secure to add your cc.. doesn’t that imply their user accounts are not secure…. free to me online is free to start and we are free to exploit the fact you have a busy life..

  • http://www.tisme.com.au Mathew Carpenter

    God these offers piss me off, especially when the people behind them fail to see what they’re doing is tricking people into purchase there products. How about building a business where the product and/or service speaks for itself and then they’d be no need for all this fineprint and dodgy deals.

  • http://www.tweetfind.com TweetFind

    Awesome Post on Scams Michael!

    I got my whole family reading TechCrunch.com, they really enjoy the scam posts.

    I wonder if the Video Professor will be at Affiliate Summit in Vegas again this January. :)

    Keep investigating and looking out for Internet Users Michael…Thank you

    Ruben

  • victoria

    As soon as I’ve laid my eyes on this scamville on my space.com – Me and my friends decided to withdraw the “strange” offers, I know it was a scam. Tis’ good I warned one of my friend who almost fell for this trap.

    I mean what they are offering are kind of dull, “video training for noob-computer users?” That kind of tutorial is not so hard to find in the internet now and its for FREE.

    One will realize that, for sure there’s someone financing these online scamming website for their own demise.

    These scam website won’t be extinct coz the movers/creators are the same people who create good website.

  • victoria

    Actually, your gut could feel that something is a scam. Those things that sounds “too good to be true”, “can give miracles to your undertakings” etc….Hilariously, they offer guarantees But in Reality, the only guarantees you can have is N-O-T-H-I-N-G. And once you try their product…

    Well, that’s it. Seriously.

    Biggest Scams For 2009 That you Didn’t Know: http://bit.ly/biggest-scams-internet-for-2009

  • http://www.ProductivityJunkies.com Darin Persinger

    oh the irony….when I do a search on your site, the video professor website shows up as an ad. You are pimping the very product you are blasting.

  • Fred

    I know it’s off-topic, but it sucks too much not to say it:

    I’m seeing Scientology ads on TechCrunch. Is that OK with you, Mike?

  • http://stalkme.at/SamBensalem Sam Bensalem

    I hope this post becomes the first link on google for Video Professor. I just wish it has a better title like “Video Professor is a scam”. Does Google index TechCrunch comments?

  • L Ross

    …”When you’re 80 and look back at what you’ve done with your life,..” – What are you talking about – that guy is like 90

    Thanks Michael for looking out for the likes of my parents, and other interwebs illiterates

  • L Ross

    …”When you’re 80 and look back at what you’ve done with your life,..” – What are you talking about – that guy is like 90

    Thanks Michael for looking out for the likes of my parents, and other ‘interwebs’ illiterates

  • http://www.gizmotastic.com Jeff Manes

    The consumer reporter (Don Dare) at WATE TV in Knoxville, TN. did a report on the Professor a few months back. I’m not sure if the story did any good. I still see those commercials in heavy rotation.

  • Boutteau

    Shame on John W. Scherer. Facebook has to wipe out this obvious scam and to advice their users. It is their duty!

  • http://techcrunchies.com Anand Srinivasan

    How did they manage to get an “A” rating from BBB?

  • http://stalkme.at/SamBensalem Sam Bensalem

    He doesn’t even try to hide it https://twitter.com/JohnWScherer

  • http://www.facebook.com/people//509124884 fb509124884

    Michael, I’m glad you are exposing the underbelly of the tech world. At the same time, I’m trusting that you are running a squeaky clean operation yourself.

  • http://www.shopparel.com John

    I can’t believe the Government has not done anything about this loser. He has been scamming uneducated Americans for years now.

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  • http://www.pieto.com Piet

    The validity of the accusation aside, in my view the expletive in your reply to the scumbag was gratuitous, counterproductive and unnecessary. It gives him ammunition, and makes you look uneducated and churlish.

    “Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far”

  • http://www.johndesu.com John Dyer

    Just take a look at his biography: http://www.johnwscherer.com/about-john-scherer.html

    It is completely ridiculous. It is all about how important good work ethics are to him.

    I, for one, salute you Mike Arrington on your response to him.

  • http://johndesu.com John Dyer

    I wonder this as well. I assume it’s because they are technically operating legally, even if most of their customers think utter shit of them.

  • http://www.soloengine.com/ Justin

    Do they really have an “A” rating from BBB?

  • http://www.davebroham.com davebroham

    I think in this case the expletive was appropriate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erhan_Altay/707637618 Erhan Altay

    Because the BBB is a worthless organization. Any business that actually cares about their rating can massage it. Notice on the left part of the video prof. home page there’s a BBB logo and a short blurb explaining the $300 charge if the disk isn’t returned?

    Their entire business model is based around people not reading the agreement or being too lazy to return the product. While the company does its best to hide the agreement, it doesn’t lie or fall foul of the BBB’s rules.

  • http://mobilebytes.wordpress.com Fred Grott

    It sounds like the Keiretsu forum scams..whereas they insult everyone’s intelligence..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erhan_Altay/707637618 Erhan Altay

    Yes, sadly this just proves how out dated the BBB is. Scammers today are smarter than ever before. They stay within the legal bounds but rely on human error, in this case customers forgetting to return the disks or even realizing they have to return the disks to avoid the charge.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erhan_Altay/707637618 Erhan Altay

    Rofl! Bravo to who ever set that page up. I think most TechCrunch readers and internet users in general knew this guy was a scam. The people he feeds on are the elderly who just want to learn the basics and fall for his con.

  • http://www.dailyblogtips.com Daniel Scocco

    Maybe BBB is becoming a joke too?

    Check the BBB report for Video Professor: http://www.bbb.org/denver/business-reviews/computers-training/video-professor-in-denver-co-15503

    It states that they received over 1,300 consumer complaints over the past 36 months, and yet they are giving an “A” rating to the company?

    Weird

  • http://www.earbender.com John Rosenfelder

    how about techcrunch puts up a free version of vid prof – lessons on all the topics that video professor charges for in a separate, search-friendly category?

    hit them where they live! it’s very unlikely someone will see your info before reaching for a phone to order their stuff, however. if people knew how to search the net, they wouldn’t need that dude and a low point of entry intellectually.

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    yes, well sometimes I take liberties in my personal responses. Plus, I hate people like this.

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    the site was almost certainly set up to push down negative reviews of video professor in the search rankings. We saw the same thing with intellius. They hire SEO guys who recommend setting up lots of site with links back to the main site to push other stuff off Google. That’s why the first page of VP search results are mostly links on the site.

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    ridiculous.

    “When considering complaint information, please take into account the company’s size and volume of transactions, and understand that the nature of complaints and a firm’s responses to them are often more important than the number of complaints.

    BBB processed a total of 1134 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period. Of the total of 1134 complaints closed in 36 months, 885 were closed in the last year.”

  • http://patrickkaine.com Patrick Kaine

    A perfect example of “caveat emptor”. Buyer beware.

    If people think they are really going to get all this for such a low price, they *almost* deserve to pay. But, I can picture my poor Mom on Facebook at night and wanting to learn Excel and buying this shit. She’d lose the $300 and never ever call.

    I also love that I don’t even remember reading about these guys on the scamville post, and that they are brining more attention to themselves with the letter.

    It IS a huge fucking scam.

  • taylor

    bravo mike.

  • d

    We need to get this on Digg, and give this as much exposure as possible.

  • http://cleverfootball.com Phil McThomas

    Biggest single source of complaints: Not honoring refunds.

    Surprise surprise.

    Arrington – Suggest you switch to a more direct headline, as this will rank highly when someone googles their name. This current one doesn’t stand out as a warning.

  • http://popurls.com/pop === popurls.com === popular today

    === popurls.com === popular today…

    yeah! this story has entered the popular today section on popurls.com…

  • http://sco.tt Scott Yates

    Mike, Great story!

    Sounds like another good story is about how BBB is worthless in calling out scams. I just went and checked the BBB site, and sure enough Video Professor has an A rating.

  • http://www.brandoneley.com/ Brandon Eley

    This is a great example of companies that just don’t get it. In years past, these companies could fly under the radar. How many people do you personally know who’ve bought these DVD’s? None, probably.

    But in today’s connected world, thankfully, we have online reviews, blogs, and Google to quickly tell us what is a scam. Fortunately for us, these companies won’t be able to last that long as they get more and more bad publicity (like this) and as consumers become more aware and actually research before they buy (that part might be a little less feasible).

    Still, it’s clear they’re just preying on naive people who don’t know better. What a way to conduct business… do you think they get any repeat business? At all???

    Wouldn’t it be a better marketing strategy to sell the DVD sets for $30 instead of $300 and then get a ton of repeat business from customers who buy more sets on different software products they want to learn?

    Of course, Video Professor’s shortcomings in business and marketing savvy will backfire, and leave a huge opening for someone who knows better to come in and steal a huge chunk of marketshare and put them out of their misery.

    Oh, and just because something is technically “legal,” doesn’t mean it’s ethical and it doesn’t mean it’s not a scam.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric_Dewhirst/507265635 Eric Dewhirst

    I love your response to them. You used the F-Bomb! No god don’t use the F-Bomb!!!!

    I am sure that the whole team at Video Professor have been waiting for this day to come – essentially the day they get exposed. Everyone from Linda in accounting to Frank in shipping new they were working for a scam. I am pretty sure that when they collectively read your article they all went – Ahh Fack!

    You have done a great job calling it the way you see it – good on you – you don’t duck!

    Cheers – Eric

  • Dave

    Mike: I know you cited RipOffReport stats in your article, but you aughta take a look at them next. Do a quick search for how that business is operated and you’ll see what I mean.

  • http://scottlaplant.com Scott LaPlant

    Hey Mike,

    This sentence: “But they continually refine the landing and checkout pages to comply with the bare minimum of legal requirements” – While I applaud you for pointing out these scams I have a problem with this sentence.

    Is Video Professor using “scamy” tactics? It’s pretty obvious they are. Yet, I don’t see an issue with a company doing the “bare minimum” to comply legally with the law. I think I have a problem with the law not being strong enough to make it absolutely crystal clear what is going on. They’re either acting above board or they’re working hard to comply with the law but, in a confusing and devious way. Why is the law not stronger in this arena?

    I’m not for more laws for the sake of more of them but, I do think laws should do a better job of protecting consumers. Let’s start taking it to our representatives – put your microscope on them. I think that coupled with what you’ve been doing will generate pressure on two fronts. Keep fighting this war Mike.

  • http://twitter.com/nwjerseyliz Liz

    I always assumed that most infomercials & late night TV commercials were scams. It would be nice to know which ones aren’t!

    The red flag is always an offer of something for free or at a discount or you just pay handling & shipping charges…then they get your credit card and charge it monthly until you complain. That is IF you can get a hold of them and ask them to stop or try to get a refund.

    I’ve become adverse to giving over my credit card number to anyone unless I’m sure of the conditions of the purchase. It’s unfortunately easy to check off that you agree to the terms & conditions & not know what you’re agreeing to because you’re on a shopping high & thinking about the product, not about legal language surrounding the purchase. That’s what advertising does, it gets you to turn off the rational part of your mind & you end up making purchasing decisions based on emotion & hope.

    Thanks for filling in the details. I’d never purchase their products but it is useful to understand how these companies operate.

  • Dan

    I agree completely with this. I would never fall for this, but i know for a fact that people of my parents or grandparents generation who are still very new and unfamiliar with the internet, but are trying to use it, would get scammed here. This stuff makes me sick.

  • david

    i actually was fool enough to order some disks for my parents many years ago for Christmas – they thought they were very helpful. So I don’t think the product itself is completely worthless to total computer newbies. The problem was they kept sending and kept charging and ignored all cancellation requests. I finally threatened legal action and they stopped and refunded a small portion of what they bilked me for… maybe if i watched television i’d have seen the infomercial and known to steer clear.

  • Mike

    Yes, thank you. Not like I would ever buy one of these discs, but now I know to warn others of this scam.

  • csparks

    WTF is the quote from that article about

    “As of today, millions of people are joining Adult oriented sites. I can’t stressed to you, that you shouldn’t be there on the first place.”

    Dont tell me I should not be somewhere, lol. Especially when I develop adult websites. Another person trying to force feed their opinions on people.

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    i think this is a discussion worth having. Let’s say they aren’t breaking the law. Then I think the discussion should be around whether the laws should change. The key is that the product is worthless and they have to trick people into buying it. It’s hard to put that into a “law” but we all know exactly what it means.

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    that’s what i don’t get. if the products have some minimal value to some people, why don’t they focus on that instead of the scam? I’m tempted to order this just to see what exactly comes in the mail.

  • Brian

    Video Professor is not teaching anyone anything that the neighbors 12 year old can not teach them in an hour, I have relatives that fell for their free lessons and I could not believe it when I saw those lessons, sure if you are a very lonely friendless person who has no one else to teach you, sure maybe this is for you, but honestly bah humbug.

  • http://www.theresumator.com/s:techcrunch Don Charlton

    Michael,

    Again, Michael—I love this stuff. Please keep this stuff coming. Please make this a mantra for 2010. I am telling you—this could be exposing one of the biggest hidden secrets of the Web. You need to keep doing this and keep expanding the net so the noise around this topic does not quiet down.

    Keep doing it. And keep finding new targets!

  • Alex

    because being honest gets you much less money.

    Money rules the world, without a ton of money, Video Professor wouldn’t be able to run all those ads.

    Without those ads, their supply of gullible customers dries up.

    It’s like the point you made about Zynga, the ones who are honest, get crushed by the scammers, since they have bigger budgets

  • oldperfesser

    I am actually a little surprised that state consumer protection laws, which can be quite broad, don’t reach this kind of behavior and justify a class action. Under a of state consumer protection statutes, it doesn’t have to be fraud, it just has to be misleading to consumers (with the effect that hiding the truth in the fine print is not a get out of a lawsuit free technique). Where are the plaintiff’s class action attorneys when you need them?

  • mike

    I admit being scammed by Video Professor. I was trying to find a source to train staff. Got me for a bundle. Total Scam and lousy training.
    I did find lynda.com and now use it to train staff on software.

  • Jason

    You should check out ripoffreport.com if you want to see a scam about scams. I can’t believe you mention that site! It’s the biggest scam out there IMO because it is supposed to report rip offs, when itself is a RIP OFF! Do some research on them – they are like the mafia, charging companies $20K to get bad stuff removed about them. It’s so ironic, you use them as a source when they themselves are running one of hte largest scams online!

  • JoshK

    “Mommy, Mikey said a bad word!”

    Seriously, it was in a personal letter. How is this NOT a middle age man going to tattle to his “mommy”?

  • http://reasonablyopinionated.com Alan Pinstein

    MA-

    Thanks for this post, I love to see you bringin’ it.

    The legal issue is my top concern as well. How is this possibly considered legal? It might pass the FTC’s low bar for non-fraudulent advertising, but clearly they are defrauding people, especially the ones coming in from affiliate links. Why not sue for fraud, or a class action?

    Alternatively, why doesn’t the law have something like a truth-in-lending clause that makes sellers state in clear writing *all* charges that they will experience when entering a transaction?

    I am very saddened thinking about how many millions of dollars have been bilked out of people, many of which are probably unable to pay real bills because of a $300 fraud.

    Alan

  • JoshK

    In theory, capitalism pushes us to meet the “bare minimum” or regulation to maximize our returns. In reality, we’re all a bunch of people capable of making decisions on how we want our businesses to be run.

    Assuming your allegations of scaminess are true, Mike, the biggest disappointment here for me is the BBB. I was going to say that rather than trying to close every loophole, the government should work to educate consumers to consult independent, 3rd party review sites. However, in this case, it seems even that would have failed.

    Blech.

  • ivoice247

    kudos to you, Michael Arrington, one more time for exposing these ******** i dont know what to call them but i sure know that the internet will be a much more pleasant place to do business without these guys.
    They remind me of http://www.liquidation.com This aution site are the greatest scammers that existed in the internet space and they’re still doing business after so much complains about them. I lost over $1800 to these fraudster, and you europeans and americans dare call “Nigerians” are fraudsters.
    Gosh.. europeans and americans are more sophisticated and worse in defrauding people than nigerians and thats the truth. At least nigerians have an excuse, we are Poor.. but what does Dr Video Professor or what ever he calls himself have to say

  • http://www.mog.com david hyman

    i want scamcrunch.com. seriously!

  • Ned

    It’s fascinating to look at the composition of the management teams at companies like Video Professor. Does everyone share an understanding of the intent and drivers of the business? I doubt it. For all we know, Mr. Olson thinks it’s a legitimate business and is just plying his trade. In general, there should be an investigation of any company that offers a money-back guarantee or free trial while engineering extraordinary friction into the return process. There should also be redress to discourage companies from automatically assuming revenue based on either 1.) the time it takes a consumer to understand what they have agreed to (i.e. mobile content subs) or 2.) the time it takes a consumer to execute a return.

  • Mark

    Isn’t it time someone started calling out BBB for giving out cheap stamps of approval to guys like this? They seem to let businesses get away with almost anything and still maintain a good rating. Not that a lack of a BBB rating would hurt a scammer much, but what the BBB does is offensive.

  • http://www.realsigns.net Tulsa Signs & Wonders

    You are jumping on the government a little prematurely.
    I was victim to a similar scam where I paid shipping and handling of $2.95 for “free” cd. My credit card was then charged $59.95 for a monthly “subscription” fee.

    After several phone calls and a letter mailed, I got the charge reversed by my credit card company.
    I then filed a complaint at:
    http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

    To my surprise I received a call from an attorney at the FTC who took a statement from me.
    The government is in fact pursuing these crimes.

    Liz’s comment is the rule. If there is a shipping fee for a free product, then they have your credit card info and you probably subscribed to something.

  • Todd

    http://digg.com/world_news/Video_Professor_Tries_To_Bully_Washington_Post_Fails

    P.S. Where’s Facebook’s response? They get an ounce or two of blame as well for facilitating this scam, especially after their recent “fireside chat” that was supposedly about improving the quality/security of third party apps.

  • http://blogtronix.com vassil mladjov

    Thanks, on the money Mike, good story.
    I want my scamcrunch.com too ;)
    V

  • Andrew

    Keep it coming Mike. Know that many many many people are thrilled you are taking this stance against these scamming companies. What you’ve done so far is fantastic. Thank you because it would be easy for you to just go with the flow, but you’ve used your influence so well here to expose scams. You’re really making the most of your position. I wish more people did this in the media.

  • David Ord

    “There are hundreds of complaints…”

    I wonder what percentage of people who get ripped off actually complain. I bet that for there to be “hundreds” of complaints, there must be hundreds of THOUSANDS so people ripped off.

    Video Professor is close to a perfect scam. Their target audience is dumb, illiterate, AND computer-illiterate. Thus, I would assume that a much smaller percentage of victims even know they are being victimized.

  • EH

    that link hides a terrible post, you should be ashamed of yourself for spamming it here.

  • Ned

    Better (Business Bureau) accreditation standards:
    http://www.bbb.org/us/bbb-accreditation-standards/

  • EH

    Because the BBB is a scam, too.

  • David Ord

    Your wish is granted. I just added it to google search.

    http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHNG_enUS346US346&aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=video+professor

    It came up as a first on my search. Fellow readers, please check on different browsers from different locations and make sure it comes up first.

  • TJeffreson

    Poor Video Professor.

    It’s an amazing thing, the power of the printed word, whether on paper or on the screen in front of you. Just because the latest no-name bozo says it’s true, it must be.

    Who is this guy Michael Arrington anyway? Well, the quality of the posts that follow this article – “Video Professor Tries To Bully Washington Post, Fails” – are a testament to the quality of this journalist.

    (Example: POST “jon – November 28th, 2009 at 1:50 am PST I always see the commercials they run at night and sort a assumed it was a scam, but didn’t really know for sure. Now I do! “Try my product.” LOL.” ).

    You’re kidding me right? Just because a business runs their commercials at night automatically makes them a scam? Jon, dude, go back to bed, I don’t want you to hurt yourself!

    Obviously this so called journalist, Michael Arrington is a little wet behind the ears and his “bosses” at the WP couldn’t be bothered with such an insignificant “story”. I guess that’s what the WP editors call “filler”. The part of the paper that is always perfect for my new puppy use.

    Yes, I know this Michael Arrington guy is the co-founder and co-editor of TechCrunch. I guess his mom didn’t understand why she couldn’t return her Video Professor lesson on how to use Ebay after selling all of his baseball cards – two months later (she didn’t see the 10 day clause).

    I guess this ticked Mr. Arrington off so much so, now he’s abusing his accidental position at TechCrunch as a crusade for his own gain against a company that has been in business, for what, 30 years? Goes to show what a little power does to such a fragile ego.

    Don’t get me wrong, I really have grown to like reading TechCrunch on a regular basis.

    I guess it’s because most of the other journalists are actually seasoned writers who find some valuable current events in technology-land to write about and give us some nice quick facts about what’s new.

    It seems we’ve entered the Age of Entitlement.

    If we don’t read the fine print it’s not our fault.

    If we’re confused about the fine print and we didn’t call the Toll-Free number and ask for clarification before buying, it’s not our fault.

    271 customer complaints. Wow! What do you think? I doubt that that represents even ½ % of their entire customer base. Anyone in business with that kind of track record should be proud.

    And to belittle the Video Professor’s products by saying you can find most of that stuff for free just underscores this Entitlement mentality.

    My family and I have been satisfied Video Professor customers for decades as countless others. They have delivered extremely economical, professional-grade, educational materials to me and my kids in an extremely convenient format that is competitively priced.

    If this weren’t true, the free marketplace (called Capitalism) would have squashed them like a bug long ago.

    The problem with journalists like Mr. Arrington is that they seemed to have missed the class in college where they talked about journalistic objectivity.

    It’s easy for self-impressed people like him to abuse their position because, if he’s wrong, it won’t cost him anything. And, with the advent of the Internet, it costs him nothing to say it over and over again. And then to stoop to the lowest common denominator with using the F word?

    So you know what they say about “free”? You get what you pay for. And this case, Mr Arrington’s irresponsible rantings about Video Professor are just that, free.

    Happy holidays everyone.

  • EH

    In years past, these companies could fly under the radar

    VP has been running infomercials since Windows 95.

    Wouldn’t it be a better marketing strategy to sell the DVD sets for $30 instead of $300 and then get a ton of repeat business

    Not if the lessons are lame. I mean really, people pay much more than $300 for good CBT, that VP has to process so many refunds should tell you something about how happy people are with the product.

  • http://www.toxicspark.com Andrew Macdonald

    +1

  • http://www.plansphere.com Tim

    This post already shows up among the top 10 Google search results for “video professor” (at least from where I’m searching).

  • EH

    I think a good place to start would be to regulate (or even outlaw) the entire concept of, “Free*”.

    The word “free” with an asterisk next to it is the scam vector.

  • EH

    I was interested to know if anybody got anything out of the lessons themselves, so I’m glad you did. However, that “not completely worthless” is the standard of value here is a bit concerning.

  • EH

    They’re probably just now reading this article over their morning coffee and finding out about it for the first time.

  • EH

    People have been calling out the BBB for years, but the BBB has better PR people than the internet has writers. It’s pretty much an arms race.

  • Jesse

    His letter is begging when he wrote to the W-post. Doing anything to try to befriend them. It was pathetic. Go Techcrunch!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chad_Windnagle/505045393 Chad Windnagle

    Rock on Arrington!

  • EH

    In an interesting Consumer Affairs story, I’m linking to the “usefulness” page:

    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/12/video_prof02.html

  • http://www.techtutorvideo.com Brett

    I’m glad someone continues to highlight questionable ecommerce tactics- especially those that target the least knowedgeable and most vulnerable of users.

    In 2005 I started http://www.techtutorvideo.com in hopes of providing computer training at a low cost (and without the fine print fees). I was naive, originally thinking that people could discern our value proposition from the competition. Ultimately potential customers are so fearful now (because of these scams), they group all like services together and refuse to purchase at all.

    Our business has not be profitable other than a good learning experience. However, I do sleep great at night knowing that every day we are selling a helpful product the “right” way.

  • Jack

    Here’s a worthless company:

    http://www.urbanplanetmobile.com/

  • Sean Mac

    IntellUS does the same. They give a name search ro $1.99 and search info on a person, but then then transfer you credit card number to a CreditReport Protections123, and they secretly debit your account for $22.00 per month. I rarely check my debits, but I did this one time and found they have been doing this for a year. I demanded my money back and they said I would have to wrote to the ‘Home Office’ and request it, but I probably would not get it. They did refund the current months debit of $22.00. I when I got the confirmation email of the credit, I replied that if I did not get all my money returned, I was going to file a complaint with the FCC and the Texas Attorney General. The next day the returned all of my money.

  • http://twitter.com/socialcoop Ben Ackles

    I checked it on firefox and chrome (both on mac). I’m not getting this article. The Washington Post article is on the first page; just not the first result.

    I hope this guy goes out of business. I’ve always had feeling he was a total scam.

  • a_wilsch

    sounds like Reunion.com/MyLife . They make millions off these crappy billing practices after they bait & switch you.

  • Chris

    That link you posted, victoria, is complete crap. no one click it.

  • Jim

    This is awesome.

    Michael — I love your response:

    “It’s a huge fucking scam. And you know it.”

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    thank you. it’s not like I put much time or thought into it. I just wanted him to go away. Then he told mom and dad over at WashPo and tried to get me in trouble. :-)

  • Developer

    This scam is only the half of it. I’ve worked with a company that gets its ‘customers’ partially from scum like VideoProf.

    When grandma signs up for VideoProf and gives them her credit card, VideoProf will turn around and send all of her information to ‘partner’ companies, who then in turn charge the card for ‘services’ that grandma has no idea she’s paying for.

    The particular company I worked with provided identity theft prevention, and was getting several hundred VideoProf ‘customer’ accounts per day, and charging them $20 immediately.

    The cancellation rate was high, upwards of 80%, but most people never got their $20 back.

    This scam was one reason I left the contract and moved on.

    Michael, you need to call out VideoProf on this as well.

  • Patrick

    Michael – I applaud your efforts and subsequent success in taking on these unethical business practices. But how do you expect to maintain credibility when you respond like a 12 year old at the first instance of rebuttal?

  • Greg

    Holy shit.

    “ANY TWO of the three computer tutorial CD-ROMs are yours free without further obligation, PERIOD. Take 10 days to decide if you want to keep the complete set of CDs. After your 10-day free trial, if you decide to keep the complete set, we’ll conveniently bill your credit card just $289.95. Or simply call our customer care number at
    1-800-519-4110 if you decide to return any one of the lessons. You will be charged nothing more and get to keep two computer learning CD-ROMS!”

    What a bunch of wording, huh? Looks like crap to me.

  • Patrick

    Well said.

  • http://www.startertech.com/2009/11/28/video-professor/ Always Make Sure You Read The Fine Print – StarterTech.com

    [...] they would need to speak with Mr. Arrington.  The whole sordid tale has now been spelled out on a post on TechCrunch, and it’s worth reading for the finer details of how Video Professor gets you for $289.95 [...]

  • David Simon

    I’m with Michael, expose them, drag them through their own shit, and F them.

    One can only hope the national media will pick up the story and run with it.

  • Jake

    Hello Video Professor PR. Sad.

  • David Simon

    You are a douche and a shill… obviously.

  • http://flavors.me Jonathan Marcus

    Its very cool that Mike is using his bully pulpit to shine a bright light on these terribly anti-consumer practices. Well done on the entire expose, Mike, you should be commended.

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    i don’t waste a lot of words in emails to people i don’t respect. but sure, point taken. i guess my alternative is to not respond at all, because i sure wasn’t going to take ten minutes out of my day to debate the finer points of being an asshole with an expert.

  • Alan

    Did you notice that dollar amount in the sidebar is 289.95 while the dollar amount in the linked more info is 189.95. Buy a Dummies book and dive in on your own folks…

  • http://www.forrestkobayashi.com Forrest Kobayashi

    Michael, I’m so glad that you took time to publicly call out Video Professor.

    It’s a constant frustration for me to turn on my TV and have that commercial come on…fully knowing that some poor soul who doesn’t realize it is being pulled into a scam that could take thousands of dollars out of their bank account.

    I’d have to agree with Jim—your response was justified and absolutely appropriate. I hope that you were able to get things settled down with the Washington Post…looking forward to seeing more of your content out there.

  • Kam

    Not so much so. It becomes too much of a pain in the ass to explain every little detail to a computer newbie. Sure the neighbors 12 year old kid COULD explain it, but would they want to?

    It’s just a lot easier to hand someone a disc and say – here take this , figure shit out , if you have questions, watch it again, and if you STILL have questions come back to me.

  • http://www.sonshi.com Thomas Huynh

    Michael,

    I’m so proud of you … you have guts, unlike a lot of the spineless businessmen out there. I’ve posted your blog post at BusinessWeek Exchange in several topics:
    http://bx.businessweek.com/customer-relationship-management/video-professor-tries-to-bully-washington-post-fails/12518544972900199406-1ffe83127bcbf31eed5d75992106af8d/

    Thomas, founder
    Sonshi.com

  • EH

    because “credibility” holds no sway with facts.

  • Sushovan

    Hear Hear!

  • http://www.goebel.net Markus Göbel

    6th position in Germany with Firefox.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Larry_Chiang/811315726 Larry Chiang

    EH,
    the BBB isn’t a scam. It is just a little outdated and there are loopholes to the BBB system.

    There are loopholes in the FTC system and that’s where scamsters live… in the grey area. BTW, people that buy from a TV ad, don’t know how to google before they buy something…

  • Tom

    If I have learned anything in life it is that any business that touts a BBB membership is, in fact, a scam. The BBB is nothing more than a pay for play sham that provides a veneer of accountability but would never do anything to sanction a dues paying member. If you see BBB then you Better Be Bailing.

  • Video Professor appears to take advantage of the naive

    you’ve really been a “satisfied customer for decades”? and you still haven’t worked out how to use the stuff they’re teaching? Community College Pofessors have a much better track record than that, so I wonder about the Video Professors qualifications.

  • http://www.linkedin.com/in/zotter E. David Zotter

    “We are members of the BBB with whom we maintain an “A” rating.”

    If this is true, then the BBB is wholly worthless in my opinion.

    Video processor and Webloyalty are basically tricking users into something through the obfuscation of details via poor webpage design.

    The “read the fine print” argument is bullsh*t if people are making these offers appear part of the original shopping cart transaction.

    The companies that relay a customer’s credit card to these jokers should be punished.

    It is only a matter of time before the laws change to prevent this sort of deception.

    Good work Michael.

    I’d love love love for you to list out the sites currently hosting these offers b/c they are equally responsible, imho.
    Perhaps you can get the information from comScore or NetRatings?

  • http://www.linkedin.com/in/zotter E. David Zotter

    Patrick. Suck it.

  • Kim Bjorkland

    ONCE AGAIN – Michael Arrginton has jumped the gun on this one.

    Why not complete the WHOLE transcation to see if you get full disclosure of what the service will cost?

    Jeez…

  • Daniel

    hey their website is a scam too. first IE8 triggers that some content is not HTTPS. inf fact this is mixed environment while outer frame is HTTPS, the internal with order form is not secure, HTTP.

    other than that, front page has a BBB better business bureau badge that.. does not get you anywhere near their real BBB profile but only to the news section. I already reported that to BBB with videoprofessor website.

    SCAM!

  • AK

    /Users/apple/Desktop/Picture 10.png

  • Is Mike A Hypocrite?

    This article is for the same person who praises Cash4Gold? Come one Mike, both are scams. Why do you defend Cash4Gold?

    This is almost as bad as you bitching about other conferences that make startup pay to pitch, and then you endorsing your pal Loic’s le Web conference where he rips off startups in the exact same way.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Murali_Krishna_Devarakonda/513746173 Murali Krishna Devarakonda

    +1

  • Momo

    7th position from Florida, USA on Google using chrome.

  • David Ord

    These scams do not invoke Caveat Emptor. A casual internet purchaser should not be forced to put on his detective mask and pour over pages of fine & misleading print.

    Think about it, when you stand at the cash register making a brick & mortar purchase, you do not have to switch into high alert mode to make sure your pocket isn’t being picked, or someone isn’t trying to steal your sun glasses from the top of your visor.

  • http://www.mlstotts.com mlstotts

    Thanks for taking this on Mike! The height of irony – Video Professor’s own scam warning page
    http://www.videoprofessor.com/resourcelibrary/internet/dontfallvictiminternetscams.html

  • David Ord

    I think Arrington subconsciously misses being a lawyer and is itching for a law suit. He is intentionally using loaded terminology instigating people who are known to be VERY litigious. He (I assume Arrington is behind this) also added the following sentence as a second sentence on wikipedia:

    “According to Michael Arrington, the founder of TechCrunch, Video Professor is an Internet scam.[2]”

    The Video Prof is KNOWN to be very trigger happy in filing defamation suits: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Professor#Video_Professor_lawsuit

  • greg

    Alright all you smarties, dump on the perfesser if you must, but where else am I going to learn about Internet or the eBay? I’ve gots to get me some of the eBay.

  • Vlad

    I hope Video Professor founders go to jail.
    F***n scammers!!!

  • Rohit

    Since you clearly feel strongly against this company, maybe you should try to block the overture ads on your search results that promote video professor? Not sure the level of ad control that you have.

  • Taso g.

    from tjefferson:

    “Who is this guy Michael Arrington anyway?”

    “Yes, I know this Michael Arrington guy is the co-founder and co-editor of TechCrunch.”

    “Don’t get me wrong, I really have grown to like reading TechCrunch on a regular basis. ”

    lol this guy is transparent.

  • David Ord

    Here’s the link to their BBB page: http://www.bbb.org/denver/business-reviews/computers-training/video-professor-in-denver-co-15503

    I don’t have the energy to read the BBB’s grading policy, but they did get an A rating. I assume that a HUGE factor in getting a high rating is the percent of complaints that are “resolved.” In this department, out of 1087 complaints, only 47 are unresolved. These Video Prof guys are slick. The simply make whole those people who complain, knowing that statistically, only 1 out of hundreds or even thousands complain.

    Here’s the BBB’s explanation of its grading policy: http://www.bbb.org/business-reviews/ratings/overview.html

  • yeah

    yeah i think a lot of people have mentioned that there needs to be some sort of consumercrunch section for this website. it would do us all a huge favour.

  • David Ord

    Strange. I was using a special Chrome edition on my laptop, which launches a Google page that allows you to add a result to a list of search results. It still comes up first on that browser– which I now realize is probably a result of some cookie action. It comes up in 7th (or 6th if you exclude the News results) position when I check from my desktop on different browsers.

  • David Ord

    That’s pretty funny. Probably set up by some insiders (e.g., ex employees).

  • yeah

    i didn’t know the bbb was so corrupt. we have a bbb here too and they are the best bullshit public relations people i have ever seen. everyone/everything is against them or something and they always need to stand up for business instead of the people because if they enforce better business practices then the people are served too. yeah served with a bunch of bullshitters right. it’s always nice to see them in their nice suits doing interviews and giving the shrotest, meaningless answers possible. i think to mayelf, “that person is speaking english right? so why do i feel like they’re giving the interviewer the runaround.” i mean if they aren’t going to answer direct questions and use language/legalese to get around facing up to consumers then i just have to say i have no use for the people working at the bbb or for the bbb itself.

  • http://bases.stanford.edu/2009/11/28/what-they-still-dont-teach-you-at-stanford-gsb-about-scamming/ What They STILL Don’t Teach You at Stanford GSB About Scamming : Business Association of Stanford Entrepreneurial Students (BASES)

    [...] to is that someone highly experienced, highly tenacious and had no morals would do the best. The Video Professor is that theoretical case study incarnate: they’re hungry to cheat, very experienced and had [...]

  • Vinicius

    Thanks for reporting on all scammers! Video Professor has had negative press for quite a while from consumer groups.

  • David Ord

    Here’s the link to their BBB page: http://www.bbb….denver-co-15503

    I don’t have the energy to read the BBB’s grading policy, but they did get an A rating. I assume that a HUGE factor in getting a high rating is the percent of complaints that are “resolved.” In this department, out of 1087 complaints, only 47 are unresolved. These Video Prof guys are slick. The simply refund those people who complain, knowing that statistically, only 1 out of hundreds or even thousands complain.

    Here’s the BBB’s explanation of its grading policy: http://www.bbb….s/overview.html

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zara_Lockwood/553191546 Zara Lockwood

    Maybe she’s a bit confused like me, if Google and Amazon are doing tricks on the public and getting away with it – who does a consumer (or small business person trying to make a few bucks for a living) side with ? I have to question my own perception of what is a scam – as if big companies are allow to do smoke and mirrors and give away my credit card details – who is the sucker ?

  • yeah

    you might have some good points but it’s so sad that you come off like a righteous shill that i doubt people will read your post without thinking negatively of you. not that you should care as it is the internet and while you’re rolling your eyes at the comments well just know that your shit is no better than ours. having said that, yeah this might be the age of entitlement and yeah technology might be making people more stupid than they already were, but i think it’s the exact opposite and think technology is exposing the have and the have nots and the thinkers, doers, and the automans. do you know that there is a lobby to clean up the terms of service that credit card companies print on their contracts and other materials, and that instead of these companies wanting their customers to understand, to the utmost of a customer’s comprehension ability, the terms that come with owning and using a credit card, that these fucken companies don’t want that. their gorup of representation and their lawyers have something against legalese being taken out of these contracts and plain english words being used because some certain words found in credit card contracts are put there for a reason because of precedent and some other bs some bank/credit card pr lady was spieling from her ass in a cnn piece i saw a couple weeks ago. it was n one of their segments with jessica yellin. it was atrocious to watch. i read a lot of terms of service. i read them because i don’t want to be screwed over and have something come and bite me later on. i understand that what i do might not be typical of the average person but i am not that different from the average consumer. i see these commmercials on tv, mostly either during the weeknds or late night, and i try to read these little itty bitty print at the bottom of the screen, or listen to the obnoxious fast and patented commercial voice over these companies involve and it’s complete bs. it’s not in their benefit (a company’s) for you to understand what you’re getting yourself into so they try to make it as inconcieving as possible. it’s nice that so many companies have gotten rich off of the consumers back. yeah we might be stupid but not all consumers are stupid. even the smart people end up getting bilked by these sleezy companies, and so do their family members. it affects us all and it’s deffinately not alright.

  • yeah

    lol. that’s great news. the only power we consumers have is to threaten some of these companies and in some cases it’s to incur the expenses and go all the way with our threats so that it’s not just bluffing them to do the right thing. good on you.

  • yeah

    ahahaaaa i think more people need to read this part: “i sure wasn’t going to take ten minutes out of my day to debate the finer points of being an asshole with an expert. ”

    imagine two guys saying this to each other, ” hey asshole, let’s comapre assholes.”

    and the other guy replies, “uhm does this mean i’m gay?”

    okay didn’t mean to turn the conversation (i did. i’m not a really funny person but this made me laugh and i thought i’d try it here), but i just thought mike’s comment was hilarious.

  • David Ord

    “My family and I have been satisfied Video Professor customers for decades as countless others. They have delivered extremely economical, professional-grade, educational materials to me and my kids in an extremely convenient format that is competitively priced.”

    That looks like a well-thought out series of sentences drafted by Video Professor PR.

    Hey, “tjefferson,” why don’t you identify yourself so we know you are serious. WTH, about half of us in here have identified ourselves. There is no reason for you to hide.

  • Thomas

    Sad little Video Professor PR Dweeb posting here:

    Go back and fix the customer experience.
    Go back and stop making us READ your tricky little fine print.
    Go back and stop ripping off unsuspecting customers — including seniors!

    In the time it took you to post your faux reply, you could have been back at your desk fixing what it is you do that rips people off. If the product is so good, it will sell like crazy without having to fleece people.

    Do it, man. Until then, don’t come on here with your faux posts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zara_Lockwood/553191546 Zara Lockwood

    Liz the point of these scams is you don’t even choose to buy anything, you click a button that says about a discount or a freebie and presume it’s a legit freebie/discount right there and the check out on your favorite website – like Amazon – you don’t realize that when, clicking the button to pay for your item, you are giving away your credit details to a 3rd party / a recurring fee. I find this troubling as it’s on ‘consumer’ websites – where as in MLM’s like GDI they make it crystal clear you are paying for a website monthly after a 7 day trial – if MLM’s can be honest why can’t store merchants ?

  • Michael Arrington Fan

    Hahaha…don’t f*ck with Techcrunch Video Professor!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zara_Lockwood/553191546 Zara Lockwood

    ripoff report may have dodgy things going on – BUT they do have a lot of genuine people /consumers that can let off steam there if they have been ripped off elsewhere. Are they any worse than the banks and credit cards charging for insurance (with interest) you can’t use ? If they outted every scam on-line there would be more people in jail than than outside – the world is full of corruption – it’s a mess.

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    i wasn’t that kind of lawyer. I worked on deals, never went into the courtroom.

  • David Ord

    Direct from the founder’s website: http://www.johnwscherer.com/

    ” Video Professor ships more than 310,000 computer lessons per month from its warehouse in Denver, Colorado”

    Let’s do the math. At 310,000 shipments per month, that’s 3.72 MILLION shipments per year. Assuming they make anywhere from $189 to $290 per shipment, they are raking in $700 MILLION to $1 BILLION per year.

    This also breaks down to somewhere between $58 Million to $83 Million per month.

    Man, these guys are living high on the hog.

  • ivoice247

    hey vassil, i have a good idea..instead of waiting for scamcrunch.com to launch.. let all we guys start twittering these scams sites and get other members retweeting.. this way we can get the words out faster and save other would-be-scammed-victims thousands or even millions of dollars.
    What do u think

  • Ellen

    Hello unfettered capitalist at Video Professor – nice try, but as noted above, a bit transparent. Only reason this scam, like others, stay in business so long is that David Hannum was right e.g. “there’s a sucker born every minute”

  • David Ord

    LOL. you mean you never litigated a slip & fall? You never got someone’s kid brother off of a shpplifting charge? You never defended a DUI?

    Kidding, Arrington was what is snobbishly known as a big firm “transaction lawyer.” These are ivy league types whose clients are not individuals who slip on banana peels but rather huge multinational corporations merging, restructuring, or doing some complicated shit. Arrington’s picture was never on a billboard or on the back of a bus.

  • http://www.moses.com Moses

    Arrington you pointless gay jew, if you come to Le Web, we will get you worse than we did in Germany. Note whatever happens you lizard you will be dead in a year, we know where you work and live! Your fellow [wannabe lizards] jews, Saul Klein, Paul Carr, Robert Loch, Jason Calacanis will be targetted by the group. I am going to get Carr at his birthday party next week in his hotel. Then we’ll get you in Paris. Enjoy life while you can but say good by to the dogs before you fly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Drew_Jaynes/642840493 Drew Jaynes

    So, what you really mean by “skipping all that nonsense” is skipping all objectivity. Once that’s removed, you’re at the very most an op-ed writer, at the very least just like every other blogger out there, full of opinions about how biased the media is, when you’re little more than bias on a soapbox yourself.

    It’s also funny how you marginalize all journalists by saying that we get quotes to support our own positions. Not all of us pal.

    And look, Video Professor is a complete scam, I agree with you, but you really make yourself look like a douchebag calling someone out that way.

    Personal letter or not, that’s not really a great way to get yourself respect in this world. With your loyal following sure? To outsiders, not so much.

    I think you really add a lot of flavor into the tech circuit; there’s far too much dry-mouthed blather floating through the tubes these days, and what you’ve done with TC is to be commended.

    It’s a good thing you (and your fellow bloggers) would not suppose to be anyone’s sole news source, as the vast majority of what you write isn’t news at all.

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    68.68.107.38

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    The more I think about cash4gold the more I wish they’d just publish the price they actually pay for gold. But regardless, I see these as very different things. It would be an interesting conversation though.

    Loic doesn’t rip anyone off, Le Web is an excellent conference.

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    Hey Drew, putting aside the personal stuff, do you really think anyone can achieve objectivity in reporting news? I don’t. I think it’s far better not to even try. By being transparent with your view you show respect to the audience. They know where you’re coming from. Hiding your opinion, what you call objectivity, just seems dishonest to me. I may be wrong, and someday I’m hoping to find someone to debate that with (without being called a douchebag).

  • Ray

    The trick: Pay with a Pseudo Master Card where the
    1-card number,
    2-the expiration date and
    3-the security code on the back of the card,
    is randomly generated by your software, and that number on the card can be used ONLY ONCE. Then the only thing they can charge is the 4.95 for S/H.
    Punto final !!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Drew_Jaynes/642840493 Drew Jaynes

    Yeah sorry about that. I was kinda miffed about the generalization.

    Anyway, in my personal experience, I think opinion belongs in features and nowhere near hard news. I mean, look at NPR. Nonprofit, straight objective news. Yeah, it’s pretty dry, but it’s respected for it’s non-biased content.

    I think that a lot of journalists–especially TV mouthpieces–inject opinion or flavor to make it more interesting. Because like I said about NPR, absent opinion, news is actually kind of boring to read.

    And I have nothing against op-ed or bloggers even, I just don’t think they should be considered anything other than another opinion. (And I happen to like yours most of the time.)

  • mrvco

    I always thought their angle was building marketing lists of people who had credit cards and were gullible enough to use them for DR-type crap.

    I’ve seen those ads a million times and the website offer seems different than the TV offer (I can’t remember the particulars though)… I wonder if the idea is to do enough volume and build some sort of credibility with the TV offer to make the complaints from the super-scammy on-line offers seem statistically insignificant?

  • Sam

    This is why I love TC

  • rob w

    Thanks Mike for showing me that these guys were a scam, I was going to get the video professor for my mom, but now I know better

  • windows ce 2

    Ha ha! It was worth reading down to this point to catch that load of complete BS.

    Unlike Video Professors load of crap for $290, your rantings were also ‘free’ and of even less value than the price. Nobody can defend this company charging that much for these CDs, sorry. Nice try.

  • jack prowess

    VP is violating several federal laws and has been doing so for some time.

    Anyone who has been personally affected should file a complaint with the FTC at http://www.ftc.gov and with their state Attorney General’s office.

    You may or may not get redress — but an investigation usually shuts these guys down or cleans them up.

  • Faxmonkey

    Wow, talk about shilling. I’m sure that you’re not at all, in some way, financially invested in Video Professor. You’re just someone, who, apparently, has been a customer for “decades”.

    By the way, “decades” later, and you’re still a customer? Seems like you’d have figured out some of this computer stuff by now — maybe you need new teaching materials?

    Also, if it’s acceptable to judge the journalistic content of a piece of writing by the comments posted by others that follow it — then I’m fairly certain that there isn’t a website out there that ranks much higher than 4-chan for journalistic content.

    But hey, all your other point were good — Did I say “points”? No? Good, because I meant to say “point”. The only other “point” you had was that Video Professor couldn’t be a scam because scams are impossible in the “Free market”. Oh sure, they pop up from time to time, but consumers vote with their dollars and they die out.

    Except that, they don’t. Not fast, anyways. The only way that happens is if you’ve run out of people to scam or everyone finds out that you’re running a scam — and in order for that to happen, someone would have to catch on and you know, tell other people in a mass medium of some sort. Maybe like, a newspaper or the internet?

    But hey, since that hasn’t happened yet, I’m sure Video Professor couldn’t possibly be a scam.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sarwat_Jamaluddin/641885203 Sarwat Jamaluddin

    Its amazing how every time you post about one of these Scams, then they contact you to as if you would change your mind and delete the post or something, they actually end up getting a new post the ruins their reputation even further, Well done Arrington, well done ;)

  • http://www.thejux.com/?p=1225 Video Professor Scam | The Jux

    [...] an article on the Video Professor being a scam at TechCrunch.  I have to say that I have not had but three experiences with the Video Professor [...]

  • http://williamts99.com/index.php?/archives/348-Video-Professor-is-a-SCAM-to-put-it-simply.html Williamts99.com – My personal space on the web

    Video Professor is a SCAM to put it simply…

    I already knew that they were, but besides that there are TONS of complaints all over the place.  Just be careful when you check out and it says something about having a total of $5 charges and then in 10 days get charged up to $260.  Advice:…

  • Chris

    In my mind, the solution is simple: ban rebills. Diet pills, teeth whiteners, government grant schemes and now electronic cigarettes are used for one thing – to get your billing information and start the rebill process. Going after one company, advertiser, or platform (Facebook/Zynga) won’t do the trick. Rebillers will just find another “product” and another platform as they have been doing for years.

    Oh, and ban the ability to pass CC info after a legit purchase. That will stop the checkout scams you’ve also reported on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/ine_MacDermot/644102108 Áine MacDermot

    His claim that he never had a chance to respond is total bull. He has the same opportunity to respond that we all do… right here, right now.

    This idiotic idea that he gets a chance to respond BEFORE the piece is even published … must go away! I am sick and tired of so-called journalists in the mainstream press acting like stenographers instead of investigative reporters. The only people journalists should be working for are the readers (average citizens). They lost all credibility when the bottom line of the corporations they work for became their task-masters.

  • Unconscious

    They probably ship their computer lessons from their warehouse in Denver, Colorado to across the street, Denver, Colorado.

  • Unconscious

    Can i also enjoy life while i can or is only Mike that’s allowed?

  • Pierre Fontenelle

    I received some stuff from VP before, few years back. I don’t remember it being that much, probably 30, definitely less than 100 for not returning stuff. And you had 30 days, not 10. I made sure to return it in time.

    Maybe they made getting charged more clear or maybe I’ve just always done a good job at looking at fine print on things I think I’m getting too good a deal on.

    Cheers on the article.

  • Anni

    Fourth, under news. Using Firefox. It comes up again as a standalone towards the bottom.

  • Tom Seaview

    My 84-year-old father is constantly asking me about things he sees advertised. My reply is to ask him, “If it’s so great, why do they need to buy all those ads?”
    That old, oft-misquoted (including here) maxim has never been more true than it is now:
    “Build a better mousetrap, and the Internet will build a path to your door.”
    Anything truly new, great and/or innovative sells itself in the era of Google & Twitter, where “word of mouth” reaches three billion people within hours. Anything that requires endless advertising either sucks or is a scam.

  • interval

    I bet there is no John Scherer; he’s probably like Orwell’s “Big Brother”, some nebulous symbol of retail offers presented to consumers as a Square Deal guy, ready to make it up to you if the deal isn’t all its cracked up to be. Problem is it never is what its cracked up to be, and John Scherer never returns your phone calls.

  • interval

    “The trick: Pay with a Pseudo Master Card…”

    Why participate at all, unless your point is to scam the scammer, maybe. But seriously, If you need help with the applications these guys are selling you can probably get better help from your children, cousin, wife/husband, brother, sister, friend…

  • viewer

    regardless their rating, look at their complaint history — BBB reports over 1100 complaints in the last three years. that’s the kind of history that would make you run and hide on ebay.
    http://www.bbb.org/denver/business-reviews/computers-training/video-professor-in-denver-co-15503

  • AC

    Never once in my 13 years of being online was I ever scammed. Ever. I have always been skeptical of any online offer. This one got me. Especially deceiving is the BBB logo on their website. DO NOT BUY.

  • AC

    Oh and I forgot to mention, the second package they sent me (that I didn’t ask or shop for) was “Protecting Yourself Online”. How nice of them – too late!!!

  • Todd

    STFU Spammer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan_Carl_Brown/638020658 Alan Carl Brown

    Thanks, Michael, for going after these scam bags.

    Fine print that totally contradicts the big print is the equivalent of whispering things that fly in the face of what one is shouting. How could it possibly be considered ethical?

    These people create no value and Facebook should be ashamed for not enforcing its own standards.

  • enporte

    Totally agree with you! We should NEVER tolerate or allow this kind of people to rip off our money!

  • http://blog.eronj.com ron k jeffries

    Mike,
    Thank you for calling this guy on his dishonesty. I watched the ads for years, finally decided, OK, maybe I’ll try the one about eBay. I assumed it would be “free” but with shipping and handling of say $10.

    When I went to the web site I was shocked to see there was NO WAY to order just one CD, and that the “deal” cost hundreds of dollars.

    “SCAM” is exactly what this bogus offer is.
    He should be ashamed of himself. And why hasn’t someone in the gov’t been able to nail him?

    Thanks again, and hang tough.

  • http://www.financialcontent.com Wing Yu

    There’s no need for the video professor. Just go to http://www.askdavetaylor.com It’s free.

  • http://hosting.qth.com Scott

    Has anyone contacted the Better Business Bureau? They are hanging their hat on the fact that they are members of the BBB… so what does BBB have to say about these extremely deceptive practices?

  • Lenny

    One law we need now, is that anyone who charges your credit card monthly (not VP I guess) must send you a monthly invoice. I’ve noticed about 50% of companies that charge after a free trial don’t send invoices and I know why they don’t. Six months later I actually look at my auto paid credit card paper statements and realize I’ve been paying some company for six months because I’d forgotten to cancel before the free trial expired.

  • http://letuscode.blogspot.com Amit Wadhwa

    Nice explanation. But its quite surprising that they have been able to maintain an ‘A’ rating at BBB. Undermines BBB a lot in my eyes.

  • johnny in johnsonville

    How are companies like these able to stay in good graces with Visa and Mastercard? We get about one chargeback a month out of hundreds of sales; it costs us time and money. I would think they’d see so many chargebacks that Visa or Mastercard would drop them. And then so would their business. In fact, the microscope should point to Visa or Mastercard regarding lots of these scam operations. Without their complicity, none of these companies could exist.

  • joe

    thanks for that link – i think the other replies to this are essentially scam artists themselves, because everything in it is pretty much a common set of warnings you see everwhere.

  • johnny in johnsonville

    ha ha. I got ripped off by liquidation.com too. I bought 20 video cameras supposedly refurbished for $900. I needed them for a staff project. Only two worked; most arrived in piles of parts.

  • johnny in johnsonville

    In theory your ideas are fine. In practice, you’re talking about hundreds of thousands of companies. It’ll never happen.

  • Brian

    Where is the NYT and/or the WSJ on this topic?? Great job MIKE.

  • Dave

    Totally hilarious to see replies like this and the “your wish is granted” guy above who have the same amount of web knowledge as the people who are falling for this scam.

  • Ted

    The Video Professor used to bill people every month $80-90 dollars and send the person each month some crappy CD that the person didn’t ask for. They acted like the old CD clubs that used to get people sucked in with the Penny deal.

    Their office in Lakewood CO is like Fort Knox because the owner has been threatened in the past and I am sure knows many people would like to take a swing at him if they could get the chance.

    I know people that have worked their and they say he is a complete asshole. Karma will get him in the end.

  • http://techcrunchies.com Anand Srinivasan

    I think there is this sort of a “generation gap” between old-school journalists and the new-media blogger-journalists..

    Old school journos can’t see the new-media guys using the F word, slamming corporations they think are no-gooders…but then the audience has moved to like this kind of news-reporting..

    Maybe this is another reason the newspapers are failing?

  • Dan

    hey their website is a scam too. first IE8 triggers that some content is not HTTPS. inf fact this is mixed environment while outer frame is HTTPS, the internal with order form is not secure, HTTP.

    other than that, front page has a BBB better business bureau badge that.. does not get you anywhere near their real BBB profile but only to the news section. I already reported that to BBB with videoprofessor website.

    SCAM!

  • Dan

    hey their website is a scam too. first IE8 triggers that some content is not HTTPS. inf fact this is mixed environment while outer frame is HTTPS, the internal with order form is not secure, HTTP.

    other than that, front page has a BBB better business bureau badge that.. does not get you anywhere near their real BBB profile but only to the news section. I already reported that to BBB with videoprofessor website.

  • John Herrmann

    Hey grow up. Anytime someone pays the evaluator money for the evaluation and the right to belong to the group …. it’s a scam. Nobody kills off its meal ticket on principle. The only way to be exposed by such organizations as BBB is to fail to continue to pay your dues.

  • rick

    no chance this guy is more of a sleezebag than arrington, bank on it

  • Craigit

    They got my grandmother with the same stuff, and she is on fixed income. I will forever hate Video Professor.

  • Tyler

    Everybody… SHHH! Mr. Scherer might be watching this page. Don’t say anything bad.

    No, but seriously, this is a load of horse shit, what they’re trying to pull. If their website gives the total as $4.95, or whatever it was, then that’s all that the people should have to pay. In fact, this could somehow be construed as theft. How many people have purchased these “free” products? How many counts of theft could that be? Even though they state in the middle of pages of fine print that they will take the money, this still has to violate some law. And then to go and lie, saying “We just want all of their information so we can personally address the issue” and then sue those people? John Scherer, you can go to hell.

  • http://www.vivzizi.com Geo

    There are a bunch of exercise equipment advertisers who say you can use their equipment for just $10. They must be a scam too.

  • MrktMind

    Whether BBB is a scam or not depends on which side of the fence you are on. All you have to do is follow the money. BBB is funded by businesses – you can figure it out from there. If you need a little extra help take a look at where the BBB lobby stands on issues in government. BBB is a pro-business organization they do not have the consumers best interests in mind.

  • Isaac

    Mike, please take on MLM, like ACN next…

  • debbie abroad

    ‘One of my favorite habits of journalists is that they refuse to state an opinion. Instead, they find a source to say whatever it is they want said and then quote them. And when I say “favorite,” what I really mean is that I hate it.’

    Why don’t you put this to the test? Why don’t you work for a month for old media by their rules on stories of global importance (not meant as a dig at Techcrunch). Find out whether there is any value in not telling people what to think but instead setting out several viewpoints that fairly represent diverse opinion and the reader forming their own view.

    You are a writer first, business man second. That’s why you haven’t made hundreds of millions of dollars. It’s why you are a popular person that alot of people like. It comes from having grown up in Europe and lived on the West Coast and having a good mom and dad.

    That’s just my opinion of course. You may be a complete crook.

  • http://www.piticu.ro Piticu21

    and he’ll never stop. I’m wondering what will be the new website of videoprofessor.

    what bothers me is that the $289 disclaimer is still on the front page.

    hey you’re busted by techcrunch, go offline! :)

  • FoolsGold

    >How did they manage to get an “A” rating from BBB?

    By paying their dues, usually fifty percent of which goes to the salesman at the BBB who signed them up as members. They have to respond in writing to all complaints. The response does not have to be reasonable, it just has to be in writing and be prompt. If the BBB gets more complaints, the BBB often raises the dues.
    In many locales its profitable to be a BBB.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karma_Wangjel/555794416 Karma Wangjel

    oh yes nice one……………….thanks a lot pleasure to see you working
    :d

  • Chad

    I must be thick, but I don’t see a scam here. It says “Order any three courses. If you don’t like one, send it back but keep the others for free (less shipping and handling).” How is that a scam?

    If you sent back one of the courses and they still charged you the $300, =that= would be a scam. Do you have any evidence they did that?

  • roguetrick

    Now, I think I’ll know your answer to this question but I’ll ask it anyway. “So academic journals are a scam?”

  • http://fivemilliondots.com Allen Harkleroad

    Video Professor scammed my wife back before we met, needless to say after I found out that they were billing her credit card $9.95 a month for crap I got involved. It took quite a while and threats to take to the news media for them to back off and go away.

    About a year ago someone approached our company about using some of our graphics tutorials, I laughed hard and long and then used very crude language as to what Video Professor could do….

  • http://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-arrington Michael Arrington

    Thank you Thomas.

  • James Speer

    The following appears on VP’s opening page; where’s the scam?

    —————–
    IMPORTANT INFORMATION: ANY TWO of the three computer tutorial CD-ROMs are yours free without further obligation, PERIOD. Take 10 days to decide if you want to keep the complete set of CDs. After your 10-day free trial, if you decide to keep the complete set, we’ll conveniently bill your credit card just $289.95. Or simply call our customer care number at
    1-800-519-4110 if you decide to return any one of the lessons. You will be charged nothing more and get to keep two computer learning CD-ROMS! You can also return everything within 10 days and receive a full Shipping and Processing refund upon your request. Click here to learn more about this offer.

    *Pay up to $9.95 USD for shipping & processing.

  • http://www.bcgreen.com Stephen Samuel

    I think that you SHOULD give them a chance to reply.

    “Given that you claim that the CD is free, and the shipping is only $4.95 (or, whatever), just what are you charging people almost $300 for?”

    … Then let them weasel their way our of it.

  • TJefferson

    Hi Michael,

    I hope I helped generate enough buzz for you on this topic. It was my pleasure. Also, your readers paid me a nice compliment by suspecting that I was a PR guy for Video Professor…didn’t expect that…very cool…thank you.

    I went over to Video Professor’s site and re-read their offer and refund policy and I see how it really can be confusing and they do need to fix that for sure.

    But for the record, it’s also pretty clear that your readers have not even looked at Video Professor’s training products as they really are very well done. It’s amazing how the ignorant masses will just jump on the band wagon and condemn things they know little about.

    We’ll have more fun later.

  • Darko

    Maybe a better response would be…

    “Dude you either:

    1) Have no common sense
    2) You scam people and you know it.

    So 2 alternatives for you

    1) Go to a psychiatrist to help you get a bit of common sense

    2) Stop scamming people and find more decent way to make money”

    Seriously, if I was from US and wanted to order this there would be no way for me to know they will bill me money after 10 days except if I clicked the ‘how it works’ link which, from a usability perceptive, I think less than 10% of users who buy do.

  • David Ord

    Interesting. Though he calls himself as a “philanthropist.” He also talks about how great of a place it is to work. You would think that this guy is loved in his community and by those around him.

  • Joe

    Michael:

    Is it safe to assume that you would not let VideoProfessor produce a new course titled “How to read Tech Crunch or post notes on Tech Crunch?”

  • DaveK

    Hey Michael, why don’t you dig up the IP address of that poster and let us all know who it traces back to?

  • fred

    You wrote :
    “Some of the links in this article pointing to other criticisms are now dead links – victims of litigation?”

    I found this article that explains where informercials.com is gone

    http://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2009/07/infomercialscamscom-is-no-more-a-sad-end-to-a-useful-consumer-web-site-.html

    In that article, Video Professor is shockingly the good guy in the situation. The consumer complain web site was running a protection scheme!

  • next

    The only scam I am concerned about is the one where I am lured into TechCrunch with promises of venture capital articles only to find MG ranting about how he equates twitter to Walter Cronkite and the drunken ramblings of über lush Paul Carr as he stumbles around the keyboard in a stupor. I feel so violated.

  • Marc

    Bravo and Encore!

    This video professor scam runs all day on CNBC. Glad you continue to call these scammers out. One big problem is that this sort of thing actually complies with FTC regulations. To me this means one thing. UPDATE and FORTIFY FTC regulations against this crap. If this is complaint then we tax payers have a problem. I gladly pay my taxes so that my government will remain vigilant in quashing all the things that would otherwise do me harm.
    This includes everything from poisoned food to unsafe cars to internet scams. That’s what government is for. To the few people who consistently harangue on about caveat emptor. If you relied solely upon caveat emptor in your purchases, there’s a good chance you’d be dead by now. Be thankful you’ve been looked out for, whether you are aware of it or not.

  • Nick

    You added your own link. It comes up first for you. Google may or may not consider it as information contributing to how they index web pages. Otherwise, don’t you think scammers would just enter their own site with “Viagra” or “Britney Spears” as the keyword?

  • http://currentnewstrends.net/?p=10599 Washington » Current News Trends

    [...] Video Professor Tries To Bully Washington Post, Fails [...]

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Frank_Lopez/1446696446 Frank Lopez

    wow

    300 x 271 no refunds =78,590..

    Yeah they are a scam ever since I first remember seeing the commercials air like 10 years ago I knew this was a scam.

    M.Arrington you are my hero

  • EH

    you have your own space.com? how?

  • Momar Shackleford

    I purchased the Video Professor on How To Take A Subway in New York and he send me two more CDs one was How To Play Scratch-Off Lottery and the other was How To Post Comment On Techcrunch I have to say I found all 3 videos very useful and I constantly ever day watch them I WILL ALWAYS BE RETURNING CUSTOMER TO Video Professor for the next DECADE I love Video Professor this is NOT A SCAM look at me I happy to pay.

  • EH

    roguetrick: some of them, probably, but until you can point to the peer-review methodology of the BBB I think we can assume you’re just trying to change the subject.

  • EH

    because that’s not what they say. they say “free*”

    also, they commonly don’t refund.

  • Moo

    Less than 10%. Probably less than 1 percent. Remember: these are people who are computer illiterate and old in the first place. Highly unlikely they know how to navigate a website, click on certain things, and read fine print.

  • jon

    The BBB is a complete scam. Part of recruiting a company is contacting them when they get their first complaint, they are told about membership and your status with them starts from here, do you join and PAY their fee’s or let them give you a not part of the BBB rating that consumers trust.

    The BBB is the original scam/shakedown organization. They only exist due to the fees their members pay them, they are not government funded, they are funded by the companies they report on, would the BBB in VP home town give them an F when John drops of his monthly commission check and tickets for him and his wife to go to the ballet or some shit.

    BBB is the real scam. Most are to ignorant to see it.

  • http://cubrilovic.posterous.com Nik Cubrilovic

    +1 (except for you twitter name, wtf)

  • http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2009/11/29/video-professor-doesnt-want-you-to-know-how-their-scam-works/ Video Professor doesn’t want you to know how their scam works | Sequence Inc. Fraud Files Blog

    [...] Unfortunately, that’s not really how the scam works. Thy are getting a lot more than $9.95 from customers. And they’re trying hard to shut up the people who are exposing Video Professor. [...]

  • Momar Jahihti

    I purchased How To Use Internet Dialup from Video Professor, and he sent me two free complimentary videos: How to Play Scratch Off Lottery and HOW TO COMMENT ON TECHCRUNCH. It only cost me $290 for the first year, and $349 each year after. If you thing about it, it only cost me less than one dollar a day so to me that such a bargain I VERY happy about my experience I will come back to Video Professor for ALL my computing needs for the next couple of decades.

  • Momar Jahihti

    Hello Thomas Jefferson. You are such a righteous man. By the way, which Video Professor product you you like most? My personal favorite is How to Use the Internet. What’s your favorite?

  • David Ord

    I’m surprised to see Anand commenting on a non-Indian topic.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/YakHunta Arthur

    6th position from California, USA on Chrome.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/YakHunta Arthur

    And how many people read that?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/YakHunta Arthur

    Sooo… who wants to prank call Brian Olson? I have some extra Skype credit…

  • http://www.mywot.com G7W

    Nice article. I was directed to it from a post on the WOT Forum. Hope you don’t mind, but I hot-linked to your VP Scammer image in my reply; check it out. VP has a few domains: http://www.mywot.com/forum/4979-videoprofessor-com

    peace,
    - G7W

  • Randy

    The problem is, not everyone reads TechCrunch. VP will continue to run their infomercials and ads and people will continue to get ripped off… Sad…

  • Jeff

    Or MG writing about every minute detail of the Chrome browser *almost* being available for the Mac.

    I mean, WHO CARES?

    Just write about it when it’s finally released and spare us the details otherwise!

  • toddq

    If you think Videoprofessor is expensive, try looking into the outrageous charges colleges charge for their hidden fees. At Ohio State every student has a $79 fee bundled into their tuition each quarter for the recreation center. They have to pay the fee whether they use the gym or not!

  • John Smith

    Here’s the interesting thing. The implicit definition of scam you give, MA, is based on the following statement: “would users pay for it if they knew exactly what they were buying?”. WOW. OK seriously. Hold on. Take a second. WOW. Really – think about what this could apply to. Take another second. Take a minute. Take 10 minutes. Now – tell me again, why exactly are you highlighting this particular company? I think you need to be much more specific in your definition. Otherwise, you will have a lot of other writing to do on this subject. And I can’t wait to read it. I mean seriously – what if you applied that to RW? Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/29/email-of-the-week-journalism-school-language-police/ Email Of The Week: Journalism School Language Police

    [...] that time again – for the ridiculous email of the week award. And while Video Professor really wins this week’s award, we’re going to add one more to the [...]

  • Tom

    Video Professor has been a scam from the very beginning of their spamtastic business.

    They claim to give away video training CDs for free, but they charge $6.95 or more for “shipping and handling”. When the CD costs $0.30 to replicate, and maybe $0.50 to mail, they make $6.00 per CD minimum.

    We need a better definition of “free”. If someone charges you money for “shipping and handling”, they shouldn’t be able to claim that the item is being offered for free.

  • marc

    not too spoil all the fun here, but a small housekeeping note. Instead of writing, “Jump to 3:15 of this video…” you can link to a specific time of a youtube video. Just add #t=3m15s to the end of the link.

  • Craigit

    ummm, most readers on this site don’t need video professor…

    However, my poor little grandmother (true story) unsuspectingly found this huge charge and had to send the discs back. Obviously, she learned nothing because she had to send the discs back. I also want to add she eventually had to call her cc company to cancel the charge as video professor tried to shaft her on the refund…

    We are not downing what the product can do, we are angry about the SCAM they use to solicit Video Professor.

  • cacarr

    Piss off, shill.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Drew_Jaynes/642840493 Drew Jaynes

    @Anand

    I think you might be on to something. As a college student, I’d like to think I’m part of the new-media generation, but I think that a lot of my roots may also be based in the ethics and standards that I learned first coming up as a freshman.

    Taking a more confrontational approach to journalism certainly has it’s appealing qualities, but I’d ask you the same thing I asked Michael: How do we achieve objectivity or at least some semblance of it in this ‘new-media’ era?

    I get the impression Michael’s of the school of thought believing everyone has an opinion and they should just come out and use it whenever wherever. What are your thoughts on that?

  • henry cole

    @Todd

    hey todd the “dickhead” toddler.. put your squatter-like suburbian words on the streets not on this website..

    go get some MILF, you STFU lover t(”,)t

  • tm

    How are these victims supposed to leave a complaint about their experience online? They don’t know how to use a computer!!! That’s why they ordered these crappy videos. Kidding. My understanding the content is terrible, very dated and basic, and probably scraped from somewhere else.

    It is targeted at old people, commercials always run with the power scooter and listen up sound amplifier

  • Ethan

    wannabe gay jew? oooo… business acumen and a snappy dresser… sign me up :)

    It would be nice if the race/homophobe/arringtonsaidmystartupsucks trolls would at least run their post by Gabrielle at the AP style guide before submitting… geesh… “good by” ? please..please.. no “English as a Second Language” threats…

  • http://www.mundoexchange.org Mundo Mouse

    The fewer people that fall for this scam the better. Keep up the good work Mike and here’s to hoping that operations like this are things of the past.

  • MediaCollective

    Michael Way to up your time management, simple sweet answer & kudos to the Post for standing behind you.

    Hidden in fine print for both true cost of product or forced continuation fees is the bane for legit services & products.

    This sort of “Truth” in advertising has led to consumer weariness and now FCC regulations.

    If you have to hide it, bury meaning if its not OBVIOUS. then your not doing something right.

  • Dan

    http://www.videoprofessor.com/resourcelibrary/internet/dontfallvictiminternetscams.html

    I think piece of work really puts them over the top from being shady to huge bas*ards! (obviously another SEO ploy to counter the ‘video professor scam’ keywords’)

  • John

    it already exists in the form of youtube and the like. all that basic tutorial info is available for free. the people ordering it are most likely unknowing it’s there.

  • http://h-manga.info SadistiX

    Cheapest way to learn how to use a computer. Stop punching the geek in school and ask him nicely to teach you.

  • http://thedcam.com/?p=1017 The Video Professor Is A Douche « the DC AM

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  • http://www.guiaslocal.com Guias Local

    This article will help people not get scammed by Video professor.

  • http://www.dogseparationanxietyhelp.com Jennifer Middleton

    I really don’t see the need for big govt to step in to protect us here. We can all read the fine print can’t we?

    The FCC has changed some rules on Dec 1st…it may make it harder for him to do business like this.

    I wonder what his purchase to complaint ratio is….if he has sold 100,000 and has 300 complaints…that is pretty good.

  • Tony

    Good point.

    Wut?

  • Tony

    Thank you. Working it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean_Masters/500453029 Sean Masters

    http://www.lynda.com gives you access to over 700 courses, largely on the same material (Microsoft, Adobe, Apple software and more), for $25/mo or $250/yr. You’re still paying more than $0, but the courses are generally better than what you’d find for free via YouTube.

    Please note I don’t work for Lynda.com, I’m just a subscriber. I’d wind up paying the same or more for IT books, so I just use this site instead and get it all electronically.

  • EH

    If you can’t receive the “free” thing without giving up your credit card number, it’s not free.

  • G.O.

    +1

  • John Reed

    the videoprofessor.com site, on the left side, says that they charge the $299 or whatever AFTER TEN DAYS. Does anyone have experience that VP did not wait the ten days? THAT would be, what the lawyers call, ACTIONABLE. If they wait the ten days, then YOU can SCAM them: Order, keep 2 CDs, send back the third, use the 2 that are truly for free, wait a while, order again, keep 1 for you and 1 for a friend, and send back the third.

  • Glen

    Wow ignore the video professor stuff you have some effed up view of journalism. Your logic is that journalists are biased and will only get quotes that profuse their bias? And good gold star journalists get opposing quotes “why do you beat your wife?” Seriously, watch more Fox News.

  • Glen

    The best journalists put their objectivity aside. I love how people can scream liberal biased in mainstream media. You know who owns mainstream media? Not anyone who would remotely be called liberal. It’s not a lie to look beyond your personal feelings to get to the truth of a subject. It’s called professional integrity. I’m not going to call you a douchebag as long as you don’t consider yourself a journalist. Your a blogger, like Perez Hilton. A guy with a computer and an opinion.

  • http://www.bcgreen.com Stephen Samuel

    I’d say that including the word ‘fucking’ in there was a mistake. There was no need for it, and it simply gave them an opportunity to redirect the issue from it being a scam.

    As for the rest of your reply sentence, right f*cking on! ( :-) ). It’s pretty much all you needed to say.

  • Matt

    If the service is opt-out then its a scam.

  • Joe

    This is a childish article. I was curious about the topic so I opened the link I had to sift through 5 paragraphs of one sided self fulfilling rubbish before I even got to the ‘Who What When Where Why’.

    You may be 100% correct but you won’t even let him respond to you directly in a published interview. You reference a 3rd party mediator (Washington Post / Scamville) to validate your argument.

    Why don’t you just own up and let him have a piece on this site? Seriously, this article reads like a myspace flame war.

  • http://digitivity.org Digitivity

    Michael– Are you confident in speaking out because you have enough money to afford the lawyers, or do you think the forseeable legal action on the part of the “Professor” won’t have merit?

  • http://pilcrow.dreamwidth.org Gwyn

    PORE. No purchaser should be forced to “pore” over pages of print of any kind — that is, study them in detail. Also, nobody at all should be POURING any liquids over any pages of any print, on paper or online. That makes books soggy and does considerable violence to your computer. /englishpolice

  • http://collective-thoughts.com/2009/11/30/cyber-monday-scam/ Grandma got run over by a scammer…. | Collective Thoughts

    [...] did a great piece on these scams that I highly recommend you read and share with your families. In case they are not [...]

  • THJ

    Try ordering it with a pre-paid 10$ debit card (the ones you can buy at supermarket checkouts), see if they send you the full kit. A test to see if they are pre-authorizing for the ‘retail price.’

    Not sure what that would mean, if anything, but if pre-paid debit cards can be used to throw a wrench in the gears of these places, might be worth spreading the word.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian_IzMe/1836911853 Brian IzMe

    As a long time gratist I have a few rules.

    1. If they ask for shipping costs it is not FREE
    2. If they ask for your credit card info up front it is not free

    There are plenty of free things online that does not require you to pay a dime or put in your CC information, I stick with those and only those.

    Trials are way too hard to cancel once you get entangled in them.

  • David Ord

    Lol. Thanks. Mistakes like that are embarrassing. :)

  • Bill Walsh

    Thanks for the informative scam-alert e-mail. I’m glad I came across this article. Senior management at my company wanted to integrate Video Professor’s services with the thousands of customers we have in our client base. I knew these guys were bad news, so now I have additional firepower to tell them to choose another service.

    Bye, bye Video Professor.

  • Howiee

    Thank you for stepping up and saying it like it is. I see this on TV and can not get over how big a scam this is. They want to give me a “How to use e-bay” program. Give me a break. Anybody that doesn’t know how to use e-bay or can’t figure it out then they are a lost cause. This scammer peddeling his crap pisses me off. they should ban him asap because he is a scammer and a rip off.

  • http://www.pcrewind.com Troy

    I actually considered trying out the training stuff to see if it was any good. So glad I did a little research first. In this day and age, you have to be smarter and put in some detective work. Google is my friend.

  • DB

    Duly blogged. :)

    http://datababe007.blogspot.com/2009/11/hello-video-professor-this-is-barbara.html

    Sometimes life just hands you material.

  • John Gage

    Another way to tell if something is a scam…if you have to call someone to cancel, instead of emailing. That way they can put the hard sell on.

  • Jon

    ReputationDefender does the same thing.

  • John Reed

    “FREE” means that you don’t pay money. It doesn’t mean that, since THEY pay, there is no NON-cash payment, and MORE importantly, THEY have control, since THEY are paying.

    The deal usually is that you do give something of value, possibly YOUR time (to read the details of the deal), and possibly some information (which DOES have value).

    Also, since THEY are paying, they want to know who is benefitting. I dislike the credit card as the identifier, EVEN IF I TRUST THEM. For that reason, I often, make that almost always, DO NOT take the deal.

    Video Professor I know has been around for years, and I would trust them, BUT . . . it does cost — in being careful about the 10 days. For now, I’m passing on the deal.

    *** P.S. When you see “FREE” ask yourself, WHY? Google is free, but they’re collecting data and, for now, that (plus ads) seems to pay their bills.

  • Josh

    “If this weren’t true, the free marketplace (called Capitalism) would have squashed them like a bug long ago.”

    If THAT were true, we wouldn’t need government regulations. We are in a mixed economy last I checked, not a pure free market. If you have ever taken an econ 101 course you would know about the concept of “imperfect information” and how it leads to market failures in a capitalistic society. In essence, by definition, scams are one of the ways to deflate the effectiveness of a free market.

    But of course you didn’t know that. They haven’t made the “Economics” video professor yet.

  • http://www.practicalize.com Israel V

    Ha. They said “F” bomb and “F Off”.

    Brian Olson needs to cowboy up and either stick with polite argument or learn to swear properly. I guess his company targets sissy-ninnies (technical term) for employment to avoid those with proper talent and integrity.

    ;)

  • Samuel Powers

    I personally ordered their software for the simple opportunity to see what it was really about. It wasn’t that I thought it wasn’t a scam or that I thought it might actually be worth it, but I wanted a first-hand account so that I could let others know what they would be getting into if they ordered the product. I would like to note that when trying to return the product, it took me three phone calls to actually return it and to get them to not charge me anything beyond what they were originally charging me: shipping.

    They charged me after I had canceled but reversed the charge after a very angry call from both myself and one of the staff members from the bank that was also well aware of other instances where they continued charging after cancellation. Overall, it is a horrible experience dealing with them and not only is the product a scam, their customer support is.

  • yeah

    that is criminal.

  • http://www.wickedfire.com Andrew Scherer

    If they had a video course on Journalism you wouldn’t have to buy it – I would buy it for you.

  • http://www.wickedfire.com Andrew Scherer

    Don’t forget that our entire real estate industry collapsed because people couldn’t be bothered to read the fine print.

    I for one support money-draining of people with no common sense or are too lazy to read before they buy.

    It would make the world a whole better place.

  • Joe

    More scam blasting please: http://bowflexhomefitness.com

  • Chad

    “Our governments should be protecting us from this nonsense, but they can’t or won’t.”

    This is a Micheal Arrington FAIL. You really want the gov. to get bigger, Mike?

    Yeah, I’m sure you do. You better rethink that statement a bit, pal.

  • http://jonbischke.com/2009/11/30/hacking-the-university-taking-the-power-back/ Hacking the University: Taking the Power Back | JonBischke.com

    [...] equal. And then I come across stories like this one:The Subprime Student Loan Racket and this one: Video Professor Tries To Bully Washington Post, Fails and I get [...]

  • Strangeryoudontcareabout

    It was worth getting all the way down here. I saw a scarce few comments about the impact of legislation here, as opposed to the impact of morally bankrupt companies, on your friends/neighbors/loved (older) ones. I feel like this deserves a harder look. Obfuscation is clearly the main issue here, because otherwise we could complain endlessly about bureauacracy and the costs attributed to the creation of those jobs (re: your personal privatised insurance company, or, say, Uncle Sam.). Clearly it cannot be dreamt that all people will adhere to an ethical or moral high ground at all times- Or we wouldn’t need journalists, for example. I use that example so that I can cut short all of the rest of the implications that I might feel need to be expressed to explain or detail that sentence. Terms and Conditions are of course necessary for companies who wish to outline the things they are not, should not, or will not be liable for, and so herein lies the issue at hand. Can it be easily legislated that -all- costs, present and impending, must be outlined in a clear and readable fashion? I don’t know. But it sure sounds easy, and if it’s already broken, we might as well try something. We could always just try to fix that something, if it doesn’t work out.

  • Strangeryoudontcareabout

    Also, i’d forgotten to add something glib. TommyJ, although improperly spelled and quite possibly not something the gentleman in reference (at least, that is who sprung to my mind) might have thought, thirty years in business? When I was 6, I had a monochrome monitor running DOS that I played Rogue, and Frogger on. I’m twenty-seven. VP was alive and well and doing honorable business before 1200 baud modems, color monitors, and…. whats that thing that sits right next to my keyboard? Two buttons… wheel… fits nicely in my hand… Anyway, that’s just what was at home. On bring your son to work day, they didn’t have Rogue at Bell Labs. Still monochrome, though. And creamsicles in the cafeteria! (And really nice willow trees that I still remember.)

  • Lakawak

    If everyone had the same attitude about not wasting time with people they don’t respect, no one would EVER talk to you Arrington.

  • cmurphy

    f-bombs are perfectly legitimate when responding to f-morons who f-scam people.

    f-videokaka.

  • TEFoster

    At least the sound amplifier people employ artists; and supporting the arts, IMO, is a civic good.

    Of course I’m talking about the scene in the commercial where the announcer allows that one could technically use their device to sort of eavesdrop. Two beautiful young women are obviously paying lots of attention to Grandma Soundgrip. So she clicks on the spy mic to hear what they’re saying. “Golly, what a lovely sweater! I wish I could crochet like that!”

    I’m sure Dali’s progeny recognized the nod to their grandfather’s way of viewing the world.

  • http://vzwpix.mobi commenter

    it is so nice to have blogs and stories like these now that make it hard for people who scam to do it for very long, i am sure before the internet no one would have known about this scam

  • MyLilPwnY

    This is just a variation of that whole Columbia House racket back in the day. “Do nothing and we’ll conveniently send you the feature movie each month and charge you for it.” A lot of “book clubs” and the like operate this way. It’s definitely a very sleazy practice and the VidProf’s lack of stating the $290 charge up front will definitely get them a “scam” classification, a visit from John Q. Law and eventually heat from every two-bit lawyer looking for a class-action handout. But the very general model of their business is pretty much acceptable when telling their prospects up front about the fine print.

    And no I am not defending these douche-bags and nor would I defend any of these “clubs.” They prey on the stupid, weak and lazy to make their money.

    Another one that tends to raise warning flags is that ComputerTraining.edu. I’m sure that costs thousands of $$$.

  • hellboy

    WOW tnx for the link victoria. Forget this bozos replying with you

  • John Reed

    Before the Internet, many scams were not as easily advertised. Take the easy money / wire transfer scams.

    The basic idea is you receive checks in the mail from alleged customers, you desposit them in your bank account, then you WIRE (forward) the amount, minus what you get to keep.

    All goes well until the last big one, and you get stuck – you paid the scammer.

    A DOCUMENTED EXAMPLE is at
    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/forums/?ID=139966780

  • joey king

    @EH I bet your name looks more crap.

  • Andrew

    There is another website that deserves some Scamville coverage: http://www.ireel.com – they sign you up for a free trial and then charge you a monthly fee even if you don’t watch anything.

  • http://www.thestreisandeffect.com/200912/the-video-professor-wants-to-make-sure-you-know-how-scammy-he-is/ The Streisand Effect » Blog Archive » The Video Professor wants to make sure you know how scammy he is.

    [...] Arrington at TechCrunch called them out on it, and they’ve responded by loudly complaining about it.  Their complaints have led to even [...]

  • http://www.bloggersbase.com/articles/finds-from-the-web/nuggets/video-professor-to-scammy-he-is/ BloggersBase Finds from the Web

    The Video Professor wants to make sure you know how scammy he is….

    You’ve seen his ads on TV — “The Video Professor”.  He’ll teach you eBay or PowerPoint or some such program, with a free trial.  As it turns out the trial is pretty sneaky.When you sign up, you……

  • http://utahcon.com Utahcon

    I totally agree with you. The information is there, in plain sight, it even has a link to more information.

    The thing is, you have to be willing to read, and look for the information on a site. Sure the site is made to make you miss it, but it is there.

    I also agree that if something is “free” with a credit card number, then it is not free at all.

  • Anonymous

    Hi mike.. im really happy to see this article. I work for a telemarketing company and actually sold this product. Our original script to sell the product included all the information about billing. We were then given a revised script which did not tell people that every 5 weeks they would continue to be sent lessons and billed 189.99 on the same card they paid the shipping for on the “trial”. I had horrible sales because i was completely honest with people. This product is not worth that kind of money. You can take a class and learn more than with this bull shit. IM glad this campaign is out of my building.

  • http://dbrogdon.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/the-government-should-be-protecting-us/ The Government Should Be Protecting Us!! « ZelphyrBlog

    [...] Misc by Darrell Brogdon on December 3, 2009 Just read an interesting post at TechCrunch about an apparent scam by Video Professor.  I’m not saying it is or isn’t a scam necessarily though I do think Michael Arrington [...]

  • Dan

    “Or simply call our customer care number at 1-800-519-4110 if you decide to return any one of the lessons.”

    That is the scam. I got VP to try it out. The same day I got the CD’s in the mail, I discovered the videos are 640×480 and you can’t resize them and started calling them once a day to cancel. Every time I got a message saying all lines were busy and I can leave a message to be called back. I also sent email to their support line. After my 10 day trial was up, I got a phone call and email response to my cancellation request. I then had to fight with them to get a refund.

    I eventually did get my refund, but it took them 45 days to issue the credit. I have never had an experience with a reputable company where I could not get a hold of someone during normal business hours or could not get a timely refund. This is definitely a scam.

  • http://www.robtdvis.com Robert

    Great effort here – I agree with those who believe the the rebill should be made illegal. Force everyone to authorize each and every transaction.

  • John

    the disclaimer is right on the home page of the their website! ALL internet purchases, just like ALL brick and mortar purchases are Caveat Emptor! This is not a new idea, merchants have been trying to get people to pay more for a long long time. To me, this is less of a serious issue than (e.g.,) deodorant marketers actually changing western society behavior over time (to think they need to be odor free to be acceptable in society). This is SO a good example of a scam. ITS ON THE HOME PAGE!!! How long are we supposed to protect the stupid? And Mike — the LAST people I want policing this type of behavior is the government. Those guys aren’t exactly above the board on most things you know…

  • John

    *…So NOT a good example of a scam…

  • John

    Only people with brains should read that. The rest should just put their credit card number in any open field and press “submit”. Reading is HARD!

  • John

    cause the government is run by faultless do-gooders who never scam anyone? Yikes. they’re the last group I want handling this stuff…

  • Tiga

    Arrogant prick Arrington says…

    “Our governments should be protecting us from this nonsense, but they can’t or won’t.”

    Oh please dear government protect us. We’re stupid and incapable of taking care of ourselves. We will work for you and you shall take care of us.

    Up yours Arrington and all those like you. I hope John Scherer sues your ass into oblivion.

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/06/video-professor-convertible-debt-scamville-scam/ Video Professor To Leverage “Strong Brand Equity” To Raise $10 Million

    [...] free learning CDs. But they are then billed up to $290 for products they never intended to buy. We outlined how the scam works here, and also point to a number of other sites with thousands of consumer [...]

  • Rob

    Video Professor + Herbalife International = RIPOFF

  • http://coldstreams.com/business/?p=3936 Video Professor alleged to be little more than a ripoff-scam – Coldstreams Business and Economy

    [...] Video Professor Tries To Bully Washington Post, Fails. [...]

  • Greg
  • http://www.just-my-2c.com kooperg

    the whole idea is that nobody needs this product. It is unclear what your are buying (2 out of 3 when ‘we send you hundreds’), you will not see the true total amount at checkout, you will not be able to cancel your order if you just found out the obscene amount from your statement (then it will be passed 30 days and they will never refund).

    They even make sure not to be reachable, counting on people to give up after trying to contact them multiple times.

  • Lasty Lasterson

    Hilarious! I forwarded this to Brian Olson and he sent his IT guy an email claiming that my email came from INSIDE their HQ…funny:

    ———————-
    from Brian Olson
    to laxmadur@gmail.com
    cc RJ Schubert
    date Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM
    subject Follow-up
    mailed-by videoprofessor.com

    hide details 11:56 AM (3 hours ago)

    RJ said this came from inside the building from one of our servers. Can we track further? If this is someone in the building, I darn sure want to know who it is.

    Thanks,
    Brian

    Brian Olson
    Vice-President of Public Affairs
    Video Professor, Inc
    303-232-1244

  • Al

    Hey Mike,

    You continue to say that VP is a scam because they sell a crappy product that no one wants and have to trick people into buying. While I agree that the product is banal and I myself would never pay any amount of money for VP products, none of us can say what value the product has to others. I have a plethora of tech books going back 15 years. I paid $50.00 plus for each of these. To the vast majority of the people, these books are a waste. Yet, I learned to write software from them plus a lot more. What is crap to one is not necessarily crap to another. Had I gotten a chance to review these books in depth for free before I purchased them, some I would not have. Still, I don’t consider any of them to be a scam. We could come up with a million examples, like computer stores that sell training and set up services when you buy a computer. I think that’s stupid. But, if some bozo wants to spend the money on it, it’s his call.

    From what you are saying, VP is a scam because:

    1. They offer a trial period in an attempt to get you to buy their product either through forgetting to cancel your credit card (sounds like a million different web sites to me) or because you like it and want to buy it.

    Fine. Then is everyone who offers a trial where you have to pay for shipping a scam?

    2. The product is crap. That’s an opinion and not journalism (you made mention of your journalistic prowess in proffering an opinion which makes you a commentator, not a journalist). My opinion is also that their product is crap but that’s only for me to say. If others pay them for it, perhaps they see some value.

    At this point, you look like you’re just grinding an axe. I agree that OfferPal was being misleading with their ring-tone offers and I think that Anu (sp?) did a terrible job in defending her company (should have just admitted that there are problems and then looked to fix them). But, at this point you seem like you’re doing nothing but searching for some reason to attack her due to her stupid response to you.

    I am glad you pointed out the problem with how OfferPal was (is?) doing business. I have been making these same claims for a long time and have had numerous discussions with social networking site proprietors about them. From my experience in working with the ad networks that provide these offers, it’s not the users who are being scammed. The users are scamming the advertisers (ring-tones excepted). And, from what I’ve been told by affiliate managers, VP is one that gets scammed quite a lot.

    Take care,
    Al

  • Al

    Glen,

    News ownership is entirely different than news reporters. Journalists are overwhelmingly liberal. Their bosses are overwhelmingly not. I can’t remember the last time I read a story written by a news media owner (well, except on TC).

    Al

  • Wes

    haha Since this was posted they’ve increased it from $299 to $389. WOW

  • http://ringtonepacks.wikispot.org paul

    Google should put this on the ban list too… same kind of scam as the teeth whitening.

  • http://whattheydontteachyouatstanfordbusinessschool.wordpress.com/2009/12/11/what-they-still-dont-teach-at-gsb-about-changing-the-deal-mid-stream/ What They STILL Don’t Teach at GSB About Changing The Deal Mid-Stream « WhatTheyDontTeachYouAtStanfordBusinessSchool

    [...] budget, but if screwing people by changing deals is a part of your business, 25% is cheap. Read Video Professor case [...]

  • http://ringtonepack.wikidot.com/ mrmments

    John Scherer is from my hometown. I should go take a dump on his porch.

  • http://pinkcdplayer.com pink cd player, Boom Box, Mr Player, box maker, boom music, mrs pink, pink, cd player

    of course its a scam! This is on TV every 5 minutes pushing FREE … How can he afford all that air time if its all free?

  • http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/12/zynga-tiptoes-back-into-offers/ Zynga Tiptoes Back Into Offers

    [...] Better Business Bureau ratings.” A BBB rating is nothing to be proud of. Video Professor, one of the more serious scammers, maintains an A rating at the BBB. [...]

  • Jim

    The whole BBB rating is a complete and utter JOKE. Any business willing to pay a fee can have a good rating. I am willing to bet the ole professor pays that fee. ;)

    Read up on the BBB, it in itself is a scam.

  • Randy from atlanta

    lmao I was a fool and fell for this Scam also. also anyone who fails to see a scam here is either blind or theyre getting a good share of the loot thats being stolen.costed me over 300 buxx to. I dont want my money back no more its been 4 months. and nothing yet . I want to put a beat down on These lowlife sob’s
    and do it for every decent hard working person who was scammed by these crooks.
    Im sorry if this offends anyone but where im from you get what you give and these people deserve whats comin to them. I hope the government or someone can help the people against this type of Fraud and thievery before some innocent people
    lose thier livly hood because of a 50 cent cd program thats not worth the plastic its recorded on. Thank you for letting me vent . sorry if I seem frustrated its because I am.

  • http://N/A Bob Bushey

    I agree Vid.Prof. is a scam but to use “Ripoff Report” as a source is a giant f*cking leap of faith. You obviously haven’t done your research on THEM as you have on your other targets.

  • Bernask

    I wouldn’t call Vid. Prof. a rip-off, but I do question there purchase procedure. One must be very savy, read carefully, and keep records. I prefer to contact them by phone and record the entire purchase, and statements. Vid. Prof. needs to offer a detailed set of CD’s, “How to Purchase from Video Proffesor”. Video Professor would never purchase an item from another business with the same billing criteria!

  • jmagnin

    I just reviewed their website and noticed they raised the price to $389.95 for 3 CDs. WOW!

    “Call 1-800-519-4110 within 10 days to cancel the trial and avoid purchasing the 3 CD-ROMs for $389.95 USD.”

  • http://www.breakitdownblog.com/googleandmoney-com-and-the-blackbelt-profit-system-are-scams/ googleandmoney.com and The Blackbelt Profit System are Scams | The “Break it Down” Blog

    [...] is the Video Professor scam all over again (Link 1, 2 and 3) with one minor change: They declare the ripoff on the order page instead of hiding it – [...]

  • http://computertutorflorida.com/2009/12/video-professor-is-a-scam/ Video Professor is a scam » scam » The Computer Tutor

    [...] One thing I found interesting is that originally the “convenient” charge was $289.95. Now that they are being exposed as the Video Professor Scam, it’s gone to $389.95. Not quite sure what to make of that – maybe their legal bills are mounting. More detailed article on this scam can be seen at TechCrunch. [...]

  • Jacob

    Exactly my point when it comes to this scam operation. Sick and sad thing about it is this scam is 100%. Overcharge for a useless “product”, very unethical practices, and as a former employee for more than 3 years but less than 10 I can assure you the office itself is as disfunctional as it gets. Very few want these cd’s. LMAO to see what the charges are now- unbelievable. At the time I became employed by the company I will say the business practices were ethical; but in the following years especially as the need for their “product” spirals downward their cunning crap increases. It’s the worst of the worst in the office and in their business. With this company they attempt to take all accountability out of their hands and blame customer and even employee before taking any responsibility for their numerous inadequacies. A good “product” doesn’t need to focus on the scam aspect of their marketing. Hell, even a decent crap product has no need for this. BBB is his shield and it is well known that people pay for membership and BBB means nothing. The simple fact Video Professor is a member of the BBB demeans the BBB entirely. Think my reply is lengthy? Sorry, this is but a portion; a small portion.

  • Scott

    Yep, it is a scam. John Scherer is a liar, pushing his phony sincere voice. I ordered one hs free lessons and it cost me $389. When I called in the customer service rep tried to hustle me on another program while calling out I should have read the small print. John Scherer is a liar and a con man. He should be jailed.

  • http://syncwpmu.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/questionable-commerce-tactics/ questionable commerce tactics « syncwpmu

    [...] commerce tactics By Brian Hayes Michael Arrington writes: “What you see when you first hit the site depends on how you got there – directly or via [...]

  • http://cruiserweightgrowl.blogspot.com/ Katelyn

    And this is the reason I read tevhcrunch.com. Killer post.

  • JIm

    Thank you for calling attention to this company

  • http://www.brunotrani.info/blog/2010/03/15/scamville-marches-onto-the-iphone-sneaks-back-into-facebook-2/ Scamville Marches Onto The iPhone, Sneaks Back Into Facebook | bruno trani dot info

    [...] Fake quizzes tied to long term mobile subscriptions, malware-laden toolbar downloads and other scams were the center of the controversy. The industry did a lot of talking in the wake of those posts [...]

  • Peter L

    Great read…..the information is poignant and dead on for today’s society


  • Anonymous

    Well, VP closed its doors UFN. Go ahead and call the 800 number. Been laying off, giving mandatory fur-low days, closed the doors now EVERYONE is on fur-low UFN!

    I got all this info from an employee yesterday. All employees were informed yesterday afternoon.

  • Jody gosline

    Sent product back. I was promised my money back within 15 days. I have not received my refund and no answer at any phone numbers tied to video proffeser

  • Jody gosline

    Still, no one answers any phone number at any office. All I want is my $399.00 back.I sent there product back, I did everything they asked me yo do to get my money back,

  • brucem

    Do these jerks also think they can trademark the phrase "try my product"??

  • Anonymous

    OMG, it now appears that VP is "giving" away their lessons on-line for free (for a limited time). I tried one with a bogus name and email address and it worked. No credit card info was needed. Here's what ole John said on their website:

    Dear Valued Customer,

    For most of the 23 years Video Professor has been in business, I've been known as the guy who gives away free computer learning on cd-rom.

    Well, our cd-roms are going the way of our VHS tapes and so to help introduce as many people as possible to our amazing new online learning system, we've decided that for the next several weeks we are giving away complete and free access to it!

    That's right, all 65 Video Professor learning titles – FREE! The same exact learning that's on the CD-roms, but now you have INSTANT access to all of it ONLINE! No credit card required – no obligation. In these tough economic times, it just makes sense that we give back and thank all of the valued customers who have supported Video Professor over the years.

    So, for a limited time, please be our guest and take a look at all of the Video Professor learning we have produced over the years — FREE!

    Thanks again for all of your support!
    Sincerely,

    John W. Sherer

  • Piss

    What a fucking scumbag. Yet this crap he's selling is so easy to learn within a few moments of actually using common sense, a fucking monkey can do it. If this bastard thinks we owe him something, I think he should be introduced to Mr. .44.

  • david k

    This post says "WHEN I DO A SEARCH"…so that tells me that the SEARCH ENGINE must be the one that has the as on it. I don't think Tech Crunch can be responsible for ads on other sites. This appears to be a very silly post, unless I am completely misunderstadning it.

  • david k

    I apologize for my above post that it won't seem to let me delete. I see now that Darin is referring to the search box at the top of the techcrunch website. Even though the search is "powered by google", I'd assume the ads that pop up are in conjunction with the techcrunch website and not google.

  • wildcatherder

    With the idea that not EVERY website is a scam, it would be a good idea for some credit card company to offer one-off credit card numbers which would only be recognized for the single transaction and amount specified. This would kill such scams DEAD! Until then, the keep-government-out-of-business people will be doing the dirty work for the it's-unethical-to-let-a-sucker-keep-his-money folks and the less wily will suffer.

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