• Achtung! Google Analytics is illegal, say German government officials

    Tuesday, November 24th, 2009

    Robin Wauters is the European Editor of tech blog The Next Web and lead editor of Virtualization.com. He was a senior staff writer at TechCrunch until his departure in February 2012. Aside from his professional blogging activities, he’s an entrepreneur, event organizer, occasional board adviser and angel investor but most importantly an all-round startup champion. Wauters lives and works in... → Learn More

    [Germany] Several federal and regional government officials in Germany are trying to put a ban on Google Analytics, the search giant’s free software product that allows website owners and publishers to get detailed statistics about the number, whereabouts and search behavior of their visitors (and much more).

    According to an article in today’s Zeit Online (poor Google translation here), multiple federal and state government officials charged with guarding over national data protection are convinced that Google Analytics is against the law in Germany and are mulling imposing fines on companies who use the service to gather detailed stats based on their website visitors’ usage patterns without the explicit consent of those visitors.

    Still according to the Zeit Online article, an approximate 13% of German website publishers (meaning those with sites that have .de as their TLD) currently use Google Analytics, including several websites of leading media organizations, political parties and pharmaceutical companies. The government officials are particularly wary about the information Google is able to collect on websites of health insurance companies and the like, saying Google could conceivably create profiles of people that would include information about their interests, lifestyles, consumption patterns, political and sexual preferences.

    This isn’t the first time German privacy protection officials have voiced their concerns about the Google Analytics service, as it had earlier criticized the search giant over keeping everyone ‘in the dark’ about which information they’re collecting exactly and how much identifiable data is sent to and stored on servers located on U.S. soil. German laws prohibit such data to leave the country, they claim.

    Google Germany’s Per Meyerdierks, however, says the company is well within its rights to process user data in the United States because it respects the Safe Harbour treaty between the EU and the USA. He argues that an opt-out would be entirely unnecessary, and that users always have the option to refuse cookies anyway.

    One German lawyer that gets cited in the article says the penalties could amount up to €50,000 (about $75,000) per website that uses Google Analytics to keep track of its visitors’ usage patterns.

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    • Sam

      I don’t believe it.

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    • http://mdm-adph.blogspot.com mdmadph

      They do know that the only data that Analytics collects is data that the user is freely giving, right?

    • http://www.ppc-advice.com Garry Przyklenk

      It must be all that personally identifiable information Google stores in Google Analytics… oh wait, it DOESN’T do that…

      I’d be more concerned about the information Google collects from search behavior, but it still doesn’t differ that widely from information any other ad network collects.

      Get a grip people. Freedom ain’t free, and the internet isn’t anonymous.

    • http://www.bloggeradda.com Mike Skel

      Very interesting! It is very interesting development. I will be very curious how Google reacts and what other repercussions take place!

    • Jeff

      Maybe the German government should look into what Google can collect and what they can not collect via web analytics before they come to the conclusion that Google could be building profiles of users based on the analytic data.

    • http://jamiethomson.spaces.live.com/ Jamie Thomson

      Maybe. But does the user know that?

      When I say “user” I mean mom and pop, not your average techie.

    • http://hwize.com/waytohealth keith roberts (@MadKeet)

      MMM seems like a good way to track Paedophiles to me…….. whats the problem, Guilty concious ?

    • http://mdm-adph.blogspot.com mdmadph

      Ignorance is no defense in the legal world, I think. ;)

    • http://thelostagency.wordpress.com David

      Fair points around privacy this is something that should always be discussed no matter what the solution is.

      Do they plan on issuing fines if you use Google Analytics?

      Its a simple option to just exclude all German visitors traffic by using Google Analytics filters if they are serious about that fine…

    • http://www.robodance.com/ Robert Oschler

      This is ridiculous. Google Analytics is based on the web site access log file. Every web server out there is running server software that collects that information. The German government is about to ban the entire web.

    • http://www.robodance.com/ Robert Oschler

      I should be more exact and say that Google Analytics, at least the majority of the information it collects, is the same information that all web servers collect.

    • http://www.kaizen-analytics.com Michael Notté

      How Google could build personal profiles based on GA data?

      Most of the data that is collected does not contain personal identifiable information – these are clickstream data. Of course some website owners can implement GA to track user-related data but then it is the responsibility of the company – not from Google.

      It is true that Google collects a LOT of information and that it allows Google to have a good understanding of general behavior, trends,…

      (see one of my post: http://www.kaizen-analytics.com/2009/10/google-trends-for-websites-do-you-trust.html)

      But they don’t make user-level profiling (or am I naive?).

      As someone commented, then they should ban Google search as well.

      And Google Toolbar. And Google Mail. And….
      Hey maybe they should just ban the Internet ;-)

      Agree it also shows a lack of knowledge & understanding (on Web analytics in general).

      Michael

    • Joe Morrissey

      Isn’t this the entire point of safe harbour, binding contracts etc was about – but it seems kneejerk – agree with previous posts – they need to quantify what could be assembled as user defining data.

    • http://www.kevin-pike.com Kevin Pike

      YOU ALL JUST DON”T GET IT

      Understanding how the interwebs works is not important. When it come to technology the proper response is to think with your gut – not your brain!

      If you don’t believe me just ask great men like Rupert Murdoch or Ted Stevens.

      Screw reality. I think Germany is just taking a page from these great technological guts.

    • UncleMatt

      How is this different than surveillance cameras in a retail store, or airport or, (I’m sure) a government building in Germany? I guess they’re claiming that the problem is the data is then exported. But the point being, a user is willingly (virtually) entering a domain. The server belongs to the host… they can monitor the happenings on that server in their best interests. Within reason, of course.

    • UncleMatt

      Also… Google is not the only analytics player in the game. Serious retailers will use a commercial vendor like Omniture (now Adobe) or Coremetrics. Why all the GOOG hate?

    • http://www.kolumnoid.de Holger

      Let’s not forget that this is “Die Zeit” reporting… not exactly known to be the most IT savvy publication out there. Who knows what they actually asked…
      The assumption that “data is being exported” is wrong, anyway. It would be correct if the data was collected on the site first and then sent to the US, but the way it works, the browser connects to the US and that’s how data is collected. If that was illegal, Germans wouldn’t even be able to connect to any website outside Germany.

    • http://www.johnfernandez.com John Fernandez

      EU Governments, in general, have been astonishingly paranoid at web technologies and PII. While they are right in being concerned, the heavy-handed ways they are going about it are only going to stifle things in the EU-Zone.

    • Silly Billy

      I guess GA noticed that Germany started to build tanks…again… :)

    • Ron

      While the measure might seem drastic, I actually think this scrutiny makes sense. Google DOES collect all this information, and there is NO WAY to guarantee this information won’t be misused by personalizing by linking it to personalized services (e.g. Google Mail, AdWords or Checkout). And Google WILL misuse this information, if it’s in Google’s commercial interest. Just wait a few years…

      On my web sites, I would actually never ever use Google analytics.

      Ron

    • http://www.seoconcepts.net Jason Carrasco

      Just out of curiosity, what about other analytic programs i.e. Omniture or Coremetrics. I don’t know German law but i would imagine that if one analytic program such as Google analytics is illegal then the more advanced ones like what i mentioned above would be considered illegal too. Just a thought, it seems more like a witch hunt than anything else…..

    • http://hadakushal.tk/ Kushal

      +1

    • phew

      hmm so finally its getting noticed by all…

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    • http://thestoreindevon.com Paul G

      Oh bother. My wife and I are in the UK but have a couple of domains on a host that is located in Germany. We also use GA.

      Are we about to be clobbered by this nonsense or is it just German residents?

    • Tim

      In adition to this it is impossible to track individual visitors. In fact, you may not add any personally identifiable information to your GA tracking.

      Compare this to a few paid packages out there and you’ll notice that they do allow this and in fact go very far.

      One package allows you to select all e-mail addresses from users that abandoned their cart at step X so that you can e-mail them.

      I seriously doubt that any of the people involved have even used GA…

    • Whatever

      Silly Germans. Can’t they do anything right when it cones to the public? They either want a police state or a nanny state. Pffft.

    • morgen

      In Shermany we take ze privacy of ze peeple wery seriously. Only ze government has ze right to spy on ze peeple. Zat’s why ze government released a trojan to protect oll ze computers in Shermany.

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    • Tom

      Get google, fb and the fbi in a room together and they could patch out in 15 minutes a pretty comprehensive life story for anyone 30 years of age and younger in the U.S.

    • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

      I agree this is wacked. Google Analytics doesn’t really give you any private (personal) information about visitors. It doesn’t give out IP addresses either (that might be against some laws).

    • http://www.brizk.com Kai

      I get so mad at the German government and its completely outdated privacy laws. People get cease-and-desist orders for EVERYTHING these days. Stupid old politicians have no idea of how much this slows down new business and tech ideas. And ruthless lawyers make big bucks suing small companies and private people because of hidden doors in old-fashioned laws.

      Get your shit together Germany, no surprise people migrate to the US, UK or Australia en masse!!!

      Disclosure: I’m German living in Australia. ;-)

    • http://polle.nl Polle

      Well, its good that there’s some talk about the dark cloud of data processing Google applies to data gathered by the millions of Google Analytics installations worldwide.

      It might increase awareness of the importance of secure data collection and storage and serve as a wake up call for people unaware of the powerful position Google currently has.

      Making Google Analytics illigal is of course not a very realistic desire, since it would be impossible to enforce such regulations.

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      Oh yes! Australia makes it much better. Muahahahahahahaha!!!111

      For more information please ask the EFA:
      http://www.efa.org.au/

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    • Stefan Menden

      Why do I keep getting Scientology ads on Techcrunch? Ah! It’s because I am German and they are served by Google AdSense and I guess I must have taken an IQ Test on some German website that runs GA. My IQ score came out way below room temperature (in celsius) and the devils at Google cleverly combined this information and can now serve me these hightly targeted ads…

      Seriously, I am sick of seeing Scientology ads. And sick of my Government being dumbasses.

    • http://www.emtain.tv Willy

      Issues like these unfortunately are quite normal over here: Lazy bureaucrats and lawyers who’ve never done any honest work in their lives try to make other people’s life as difficult and cumbersome as possible – especially if those people tend to be entrepreneurially inclined.

      The result of this would be quite simple if this was to come true: German Internet enterpreneurs will no longer found German companies but British (or overseas) Ltd.s or Dutch BVs.

      There always is a work-around for bureaucratic nonsense but it’s a hassle nonetheless.

    • Christian

      We’re running a dating website in Germany, and we were contacted by the federal data protection officer (don’t know if this term does really exist in english) because of our use of Google Analytics a couple of weeks ago.

      After receiving the letter I called the guy to ask what exactly he considers as “personal data” which must not be sent to Google (or USA) in general.

      This guy really tried to convince me that the IP address would be such “personal data”.

      He really didn’t care for my arguments, that an IP address is never ever anything like personal data, or that Google may have the IP anyway (because the most people use Google as search engine of course).

      In his opinion website operators in Germany are not allowed to “send” the IP-address to any company outside the EU. This would prohibite use of any web 2.0 like feature (like Google Maps, Facebook Connect, Twitter-stuff etc).

      ;-P

    • privacypatrol

      There are better ways to protect your privacy from Google, such as moving to the opt out village:
      http://www.theonion.com/content/video/google_opt_out_feature_lets_users

    • bingfan

      European Law is a little bit complicated and each country – and sometimes county within a country – uses different laws for the same topic. So maybe in Northern Part of Germany (where DIE ZEIT resides) Google Analytics may be banned in the future and in the Southern part it is allowed. Maybe that is the reason for people moving from the North to the South in Germany. They want to use Google etc. freely and don’t want to be “protected” by the county they live in.

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    • Richard John

      Can you be sure about that? Yes, it doesn’t SHOW personally identifiable information, but they may still store it.
      It’s quite plausible that they’d store IP addresses and Google Accounts.

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    • http://twitter.com/ikasch iKasch

      i friggin hate the country i am living in -.-

    • Christian

      So what? That’s how “the internet” works. If you’re going online, you should be aware that your “ip address” is tracked by a all websites you’re visiting (and some additional companies like Google Analytics, Advertising Companies etc).

      If someone is afraid about this, he shouldn’t go online, or, if anyone is that paranoid, switch off cookies and redial/reconnect to the internet after each website visit (hoping he gets a new dynamic ip). ;-)

      Nobody, and especially the government, should ask german website owners to remove third party stuff (widgets, analytics, etc), just because the ip is transferred outside of Germany.

      Oh, sorry, I forgot that it’s not prohibted. It’s “only” necessary to ask the user for permission before anything like that is done (like via popup). And, it’s not sufficient to write this in your terms of use. The visitor has to explicitly opt-in for this.

    • http://www.ramanean.com Ramanean

      I have my site hosted in Germany whether it would create any problems for my site?

    • BlondSwimmer

      The decisive question is whether or not the IP address would amount as “personal data”.
      And if so, whether companies will be willing to share adv revenue on conditions you give data away.
      One is clear for sure: your search profiles ( already) worth a lot and on a long run, only service per se ( google, facebook) might prove not being enough for compensation.

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    • http://www.mcquadr.at Omer

      Yeah, but in Germany, the Government uses to protect peoples from their ignorance, I’m not just sure they know what Google analytics is exactly and how it works, I’m having the feeling like, the german Government has a very big concern seeing Google collect datas at all stages of the web, without knowing exactly what is done from those datas.

      (beta comment)

    • Devon

      This is great news for startups of all other countries. Bye German competition! Have fun not knowing what your traffic is doing? (German govt should take note…)

    • John something

      and yet the ignorant sometimes need protection, which is why we have all those warning signs abuot improper use on microwaves and plastic bags over here.

      Is all the “Angst” justified? Dunno, but I find this paranoia easier to accept than the Canadian government planning to allow the music industry to break into your computer on suspicion of copyright infringement. Sounds like ze Germans would not be too keen on that sort of thing.

    • http://www.askmommy.org Bernie

      well, that’s not entirely true. German law distinguishes between “personenbezogenen Daten” (personal data, e.g. your name) and “personenbeziehbaren Daten” (“personal obtainable” data, i.e. data which could be used to obtain personal data).

      It is debatable under German law right now if your IP address falls into the latter category. If yes, Google Analytics will technically be illegal in Germany.

    • John something

      That’s easy to fix

    • John something

      Google tells me that storage of the IP is the problem, not simply sending it, and that IPs are explicitly listed as personal information in the law, by-law, regulation or whatever governs data protection in Germany. If you run a website as a business you may want to look into your duties, from the sound of it….

    • http:://www.wikipik.org Plutonium239

      Right on, Germans – back stab your already ailing web industry! More of the web cake for other countries… :-)

    • http://themindblogger.com Rohit Bhatia

      this is dumb … I cant even imagine metrics w/o google analytics

    • http://www.websbee.com tuncay

      i tried http://websbee.com. it was great ! all popular engines in one.it also goes deep search behind links

    • http://seanmccann.ca Sean McCann

      The thing is that all of what Google Analytics does, can be cloned by anybody for their own use. Google Analytics simply uses the header data to to compute some statistics. Anybody can do the same! If Google was using some secret data that they gather from another source to make the stats more interesting then that would be something to worry about. Not this.

    • http://www.practicalize.com Practicalize

      Are there laws banning brick-and-mortar businesses from counting how many customers enter their stores, what they buy, demographics, etc.?

      Ridiculous.

    • Anonymous

      This reminds me a film called Gattaca . . . seriously I think the German government is doing a good thing here.

    • Christian

      John, from a legal view of course the (possible) storage of the IP is the problem. As long as a we cannot prove that the IP is not stored, it is assumed that the address is stored.

      But come on… I can’t imagine any website out there which doesn’t store the ip (exceptions may be some anonymizer or illegal services), at least in some logfiles to protect themselves against abuse, attacks or whatsoever.

      Therefore in real life this restriction (don’t give ip addresses to someone else unless you can prove he doesn’t store it anywhere) means: don’t use any third party services on your websites.

      Because even if you just include advertising tags from foreign companies would mean that you break the law.

      I mean… what the hell can Google do with your ip alone? Nothing… anybody who ever tried to figure out who’s behind an ip address (like because of fraud etc) knows that it’s impossible to do this (except for the government, which can try to find this out).

      Of course, if someone uses Gmail for his mails, Google Docs for the spreadsheets etc, then maybe, Google could try to connect the IP with your personal data.

      But if someone is afraid about that, he simply should stick to Thunderbird, Excel & Co and never create personal accounts on websites. By acting like this, nobody – even Google – will ever be able to connect the IP with a personal identity.

    • Christian

      It’s definitely not a good thing. Currently the government seems only to dislike Google Analytics.

      But if we accept that the IP address counts as “personal data”, you can forget about banner advertising on german sites, because this could mean some foreign company could get the IP.

      Forget about embedding youtube videos on your blog (hey, youtube even is Google). Forget about adding Facebook Connect, and so…

      If the government enforces this, all german websites will have huge disadvantages compared with their international competition.

    • http://www.technicalinterviewquestions.net techinterview

      How lame! So are they going to block analytics provided by other companies too? And stop all webservers from saving log files?

    • http://branchr.com Christian Owens

      True, ignorance is no excuse. And while we’re on the topic, I’m the prime minster on Nigeria and would love to organize a business deal with you for the sum of $43,000,000. (for the low, low, single transaction fee of $65).
      ;)

    • http://soundseller.eu soundseller

      OMG!
      I love google analytics and use it basically just for fun.
      Pretty soon lawyers will start suing people all over the place over here.

    • http://thefutureofthemusicindustry.com The Future Of The Music Industry

      Oh please,
      dont they have anything else to do?

    • T-F

      The Google Meshup

      - Via the search engine google knows what you are seaching in the web.
      - Via googlemail, google knows what you are writing to whom.
      - Via googlecalendar, google knows what you are scheduling
      - Via maps.google knows in what region you are living
      - Via Latitude.google, google knows who is in your social network and were they are right now.
      - Via analytics, google know what is going on on your website
      - Via books.google, google knows what you are reading
      - Via google docs, google knows about your business.

      Every new google tool is aimed to get a little bit more information about the user

      You have to be really stupid not to get it !

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    • GoogleAnalytics alternatives

      Sorry, that’s BS.

      Although it might be the case in a few years, the World does not yet depend 100% on Google.

      There are countless alternatives to GoogleAnalytics:

      http://mashable.com/2009/01/12/track-online-traffic/

    • GoogleAnalytics alternatives

      Wrong. You DO HAVE to think.

      And if you do so, you’ll see that Germany is rightfully concerned.

      Btw.: You only need to log into a Google service once and all the (GA-equipped) sites you’ll visit from that moment on can be linked to your Google account.

      => A nice & complete personal profile of yours.

    • David

      What we can say is that Google is a special case, because they are building huge monopolies or otherwise dominate the Web like no other company in the World.

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    • Who’s tracking you

      Want to know who’s tracking you using GoogleAnalytics?

      Firefox has an add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5631

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    • http://youareweb.de Manu

      Hi folks,
      it is a little bit complicated, but I’ll try to explain. The news of the german magazine “The Time” are not new. In March 2009 the german agent for data privacy protection had appraise google analytics with a very critical status to german law. His statement:
      “Currently, the use of the free Google Analytics service is not permitted by site provider. Google needs to change its configuration so that the parties may exercise their right of appeal, information, and information and effectively carry out erasure of data. For the unlawful use of the service, the website operator liable.”
      In according to the german tele media law it is not allowed to capture personal data. The issue are the ip adresses because they are personal data in our law for example. There are much more items in this case in german law. For example: the alternate to get an overview for saling items and pricing in online shops.

    • scott

      So, is ‘tail -f /var/log/apache/access_log’ illegal in Germany too?

      Scott

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    • http://blog.marit.ag michael fritz

      I’m glad that the crunchies started this discussion. Maybe now google is willing to negotiate with the german gov. Since a year now the legal situation is very unclear and google wanted to take action to clatrify the legal situation in germany.

    • http://www.rgdot.com/bl RG

      Last I checked Google Analytics gives the LEAST amount of info if comparing to other free and hosted services/tools. IP addresses for one…

    • http://rojakblog.com Fatin Pauzi

      Wow, it’s a vile things when the government intervention in blogging things.

    • Nick

      If this is the case, and since all internet protocols send source IP along (if they expect a reply), then the only legal and compliant thing to do is to shut down the internet at the German border, otherwise IP end up at the foreign server.

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    • Yep

      Dude, a lot of people ARE, that’s the tragedy of the story…

    • http://www.askmommy.org Bernie

      Let me correct myself. I mixed something up. Storing IP addresses in combination with other data (let’s say your email address) is not really allowed unless the user gives you an opt-in.

      The problem is that Google Analytics transmits and stores your IP address on their US-based servers and that it’s not clear what is happening to this data. And this is what contradicts the German privacy protection laws, I guess.

    • Paolo

      Agreed, that should be taught in schools.
      I adblock analytics, another thing to teach kids to do.

    • Rod Jacker

      This is really exciting news and I welcome it. Hopefully, it’s a sign of things to come and the EU privacy rulings will be the start of the end of the Google empire.

    • Paolo

      Obviously tailing a file is not illegal, but the access_log itself may be illegal if you put too much information in it. See this article about a sentence of a court in Germany on the subject http://www.out-law.com/page-9505

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    • Brian Katz

      So have there been any actual convictions?? Or any prosecutions even?

      Brian Katz – Analytics VKI

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    • http://www.bloommedia.co.uk Al

      why only pick on Google analytics? surely omniture, yahoo etc are just doing the same..? does the ruling cover these also?

    • http://www.postenprofis.net AC

      I the future stands on every german website only one thing: Sorry visitor, we can write no more than this, because all is criminal and not allowed.. :-)

    • http://www.settantanove.de/wordpress/?p=41 settantanove | Blog zur digitalen Kommunikation» Blogarchiv » Google Analytics muss leider draußen bleiben: Tipps & Tools kurz gebloggt

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    • http://www.adclicks-agent.de/news/330/aufreger-der-woche-google-analytics-ist-illegal/ Aufreger der Woche: Google Analytics ist illegal « AdClicks-Agent.de

      [...] und Politiker dem Gedanken, dass die Nutzung von Google Analytics nach deutschem Recht nicht zulässig ist. Wenn man so etwas liest, muss man sich ernsthaft die Frage stellen, was diese übertriebene [...]

    • http://www.webalytics.de webalytics

      Well, I think there are two things that have not been taken into account by the German authority:

      1. Google does NOT provide any report containing data about IP addresses

      2. Google deletes all collected IP addresses after a certain amount of time (ie 30-60 days)

      Since we are one of the few Google Analytics Authorized Consultants in Germany we cannot aggree to that kind of paranoia. There are much more severe malicious activities caused by malware and spyware than to blame Google for collecting data and providing website owners with useful insight information.
      But IF this is really an issue, everybody’s free to buy Urchin Software which is completely self contained and will store data only inhouse.

      Cheers,
      webalytics

    • Thoralf

      The German government is exceptionally un-techy. They have not the slightest clue what the web is and how it works.

      I guess this is just another sign of their incompetence.

      And I still cannot believe that the majority of the Germans keep voting for those parties …

    • C Hirlemann

      Hi All,

      There seem to be a lot of comments here from people who think that Google knowing a lot about you is a bad thing.

      We are all currently bombarded with well over 2000 adverts and marketing messages everyday with a tiny fraction of these being relevant or even remotely interesting. I must at this point admit I am a marketer so am bias, but what Google is trying to do is understand the needs of individuals and so that busineses can cater for those needs. In the long term it will be a benefit for consumers.

      A very good point made in the comments is that those that do not want any of this can simply turn off cookies and not sign up for the free applications and services that Google offer. Nobody is forced to have any of these.

      And, just a last comment re the suggestion that people should just go with their gut instinct… Gut instinct will only work for the very few and they will usually have built up years of experience that most will only be able to aspire to (that is how they got to the top! along with knowing the right people and being in the right place at the right time).

      Good decisions are always INFORMED decisions, if a decision is not informed then it is a guess. I do not think that Rupert Murdoch guesses much, he will make decisions based on his years of experience in media. Marketing can be the difference between a good year and a poor year, and as many people will know a poor year can mean redundancies and companies going bust!

      Currently the data collected cannot be linked to a physical individual (only the IP address could be considered as doing this). If data starts collecting personal information (such as name, address) rather than demographic data then I will expect opt in schemes.

      Untill then I will continue to gather as much information (legally) as I can about the people that interact with my site and there needs with the aim to serve these needs in the best possible way.

    • http://blog.mrtrailmix.de/2009/11/ist-google-analytics-illegal/ Ist Google Analytics illegal? | Mr.TrailMix – Das TrailMix-Blog

      [...] Google Analytics illegal sei. Diese Auffassung ist nicht ganz neu allerdings auch bei weitem nicht unumstritten. Der Service des amerikanischen Unternehmens wird von 13 % aller Websitebetreiber genutzt, so auch [...]

    • http://blog.maexotic.de/ Maex

      First of all, it is *NOT* only Google they are after. But Google is well known and it makes up a nice headline. Other services are being investigated, too.

      Then it is *NOT* about single sites analyzing their access logfiles. One of the problems is that GA is used on so many websites and that the *client* sends the tracking information. This way GA is able to track (they see User-Agent and IP address, so can easily track reconnects for the same IP) users *across* different sites. GA can, not the site owner, who is probably not interested anyways.

      Next point is that German data protection laws allow for things like that to happen, BUT the visitor has to agree prior to the information being collected. A legal solution would be to
      - check if there is a permission cookie
      - if yes allow access
      - if not redirect to a page without tracking
      - ask the user for permission to set a cookie and to use tracking
      - if the user acknowledges route back to entry point
      - if not, deny access or ask to set a cookie and disable tracking.

      Personally I think it is a good idea that something is happening in that area. Get the Ghostery plugin for Firefox http://www.ghostery.com/ and I guess you will agree.

      Yet alone this site is using 7(!) webbugs, GA, Google Adsense, Facebook, Quantcast, Sitemeter, …

      Oh and the people at the ULD really *do* know what they are doing and what they are talking about.

    • mf

      If Google-Analytics is illegal, live-analysis form woopra must be worse….

    • http://www.searchpoint.in/ich-bin-ein-googler/338/ Ich bin ein Googler! | Search Point

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    • http://www.worldit.info/noutati/google-analytics-va-deveni-ilegal-in-germania-o-discriminare/ Google Analytics va deveni ilegal in Germania – o discriminare? | WorldIT

      [...] in Germania. “Several federal and regional government officials in Germany are trying to put a ban on Google Analytics, the search giant’s free software product that allows website owners and publishers to get [...]

    • Reinier

      “Google Inc. is expressly acknowledges, in its regulations to be accepted when using the right one, beyond the individual user by means of a unique identifier data obtained with other previously stored data “associate something like Gmail” and to share this information with third parties. ”

      This is something that Omniture doesn’t do. Your data is kept privately.

    • http://www.brendonwilson.com Brendon J. Wilson

      A clarification (I was in Germany discussing this exact issue with a company two weeks ago) for this group: the German government considers IP addresses to be private information. The problem is not that Google will let you, the Analytics account holder, to see IP addresses (it doesn’t), but rather that Google itself is collecting all of that information. Therein lies the problem.

      Make no mistake, Google is only the biggest fish – the other web-based/SaaS analytics solutions are in the same boat.

      As for those who believe the German government is technologically unsophisticated, I might point out that they actually pioneered most of the laws used by all of the EU to protect personal data – part of the reason they haven’t had the same problem with egregiously large data breaches and identity theft that we’ve had in North America. They also have true, legally-enforceable digital signatures, not the meaningless “electronic signatures” implemented in the US a couple of years ago.

      Just because you dislike what they’re doing doesn’t mean they don’t know what they’re doing.

    • Thoralf

      I don’t believe that the German government is technologically unsophisticated, I know it!

      Having pioneered at data protection laws doesn’t mean too much as most is based on old school rules, not involving too much new technology.

      The German electronic signature is a joke and won’t help anything.
      They also screwed up the toll charge system (details soon on wikileaks).
      The most recent laws affecting the internet are of similar quality.

      Pretty much all parties present in the parliament started a with hunt against so called “killer games” after a few amok runs happened, stating that games like Counter Strike and even World of Warcraft cause people to become terrorists.

      I don’t expect them too understand everything but they should shut up if they have no clue.

    • Thoralf

      witch hunt*

    • Client

      Being a client of web analytics services provider Snoobi we can say that it would be safety alternative for everyone are concerned about privacy….And for Germans the great news is that a German language version of the Snoobi report is also available (beside English, Dutch, Swedish, Finnish, Estonian, Latvian). Read more http://www.snoobi.com/login/news/2009/new-language–snoobi-available-in-german.

      Beside the fact that it is not a free service, you can be sure of security of data tracking because:
      Snoobi will never share your tracking data with third parties and Snoobi keeps all data stored in a secure server farm in Finland, in accordance with EU and Finnish legislation….http://www.snoobi.com/products/privacy-policy/

    • C Hirlemann

      I have to say Brendon J. Wilson makes a very good point.

      Just because people do not like what they are doing does not mean they do not know what they are doing.

      Well said.

    • http://conecti.ca/2009/11/25/usar-google-analytics-es-ilegal-en-alemania/ Usar Google Analytics es ilegal en Alemania | conecti.ca

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    • http://ehtyar.net/blog/2009/11/26/tech-news-thursday-november-26th/ Tech News – Thursday, November 26th | Tech Newz

      [...] Achtung! Google Analytics is illegal, say German government officials [...]

    • http://www.ruba.com/guide/Best_hormone_restaurants_in_Tokyo-YukariSakamoto St. James

      Haha, definitely +1 to Kevin Pike. My sentiments exactly regarding Murdoch and Stevens.

      Honestly, this is so ridiculous it shouldn’t bear commenting. Yes, the web has serious privacy concerns, but there are far more pressing things out there besides Analytics. WTH the recording industry.

      So turn your cookies off. Not too tough.

    • http://www.sitebyjames.com/ James

      That’s rather noob isn’t it?

      I built my own… Analytics doesn’t tell you what you need to know. In any event Piwik is an alternative for many.

    • http://www.alexgamela.com/blog/2009/11/26/recommended-links-for-november-26th/ Recommended Links for November 26th | Alex Gamela – Digital Media & Journalism

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    • http://digitalpr.se/2009/11/26/kortbloggatdigitalpr-se-20091126/ Kortbloggat:Digitalpr.se-2009/11/26

      [...] Achtung! Google Analytics is illegal, say German government officials [...]

    • http://www.yamba-accommodation.com.au/ Yamba

      Crazy little Germans!

    • http://www.metronet.no/blogg/2009/11/skummel-utvikling-innen-webanalyse-og-lovendringer/ Skummel utvikling innen webanalyse og lovendringer | Metronet

      [...] jeg får en litt ekkel følelse når jeg leser at en rekke politikere har gått inn for å gjøre Google Analytics ulovlig i Tyskland. Det nevnes også skyhøye bøter til bedrifter som bruker Google Analytics. Årsaken til misnøyen [...]

    • http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/38660-germany-to-ban-google-analytics.html#post212915 Germany to Ban Google Analytics?

      [...] political parties and pharmaceutical companies," Wauters writes elsewhere on TechCrunch Europe. (Read that article here.) Google Analytics is almost universally praised within the online business world, as a (free!) [...]

    • Alex G

      If you really knew what Google does and can do and does not do with your data, you would probably think it either does too much, or could do too much.

      The problem is that no one knows what they do and can do with the data. But it does seem like Google has a 5 billion dollar server farm and 5,000 PHDs working on something like that.

      One thing for sure, a lot of people would be surprised to know how close to their home Google has hardware, what it’s used for, and how that can be combined with the other data Google has.

      Perhaps they do, or don’t do, but the issue is that they can and there is no way to know. At that point, the people’s personal privacy has already been breached.

    • Jerry Evanworth

      Ae we talking about more than just IP addresses here? Is Google Analytics betraying the users of Gmail by letting GA users (webmasters) know precisely who visited them?

      Obviously, the German govt must stop worrying about IP being tracked because its in every Email header…but GA could do worse in which case the German govt might help everyone here:

      Are we saying that GA allows website owners to know exactly who you are because a cookie has you signed into Gmail/Googlewave or whatever?

      A ton of sites comments sections have us already logged in and ready to comment. I’ve assumed that, if you *don’t* comment, the site owner only sees that your IP visited. But, technically, the “automatic comment login” features of these sites could just go ahead and log a visit note to the website owner of exactly who you were according to your Gmail/Facebook/Disqus profile.

      That would probably be highly illegal in Germany, meaning the government officials may have just been too clueless (so far) to articulate what they feel the real problem is.

      As noted above, one has to assume one’s IP address becomes known to anyone who gets an Email from you and anyone whose website is visited by you. That genie is out of the bottle and no government is going to put that back in.

      There is also another genie out of the bottle and that is the Email addresses you used to sign up for your Facebook and LinkedIn profiles can be connected to your name by having your profile show inside any Email you send using that Email address. That horse left the barn long ago as well.

      But telling website owners exactly who visited them with first and last name? There would have to be a universal opt-out for that. This means that a computer user should be able, without stopping cookies altogether, to say he or she doesn’t agree to have cookie information given out to anyone besides the one site owner when you return to that particular site.

      No need for anyone here to say “if you want your privacy than just delete all cookies or go live in the mountains”. Cookies are great for when we return to the sites that gave them to us and they are great for having us automatically logged into comment on lots of blogs and sites…but not when all those 3rd party blogs and sites automatically are told via greedy and unforthcoming tattle-tales about precisely who we are whether we comment or not. If that is happening, we all must at least raise the alarm to each other and let each other know NOT to remain automatically logged onto Gmail or any other service that may betray our passing viewing habits non-anonymously to 3rd party webmasters (Disqus?).

      Germany would be the country to keep watch on this because of their history. They were once too good at keeping records of what every individual was doing and thinking.

    • http://eduangi.com/2009/11/26/alemania-considera-ilegal-google-analytics/ Alemania considera ilegal Google Analytics | eduangi.com

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    • http://for-free-on-internet.com/2009/11/latest-important-news-on-the-web-week-23-29-november-2009/ Latest Important News On The Web – Week 23-29 November, 2009 | 4 Free On Internet

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    • http://blog.maexotic.de/ Maex

      All of you points relate to the government and not to the data protection commissioners of the different states (Bundesländer) who *always* were against a lot of the things the government did.
      And all of your points are not related to data protection of personal information.

      I really don’t get the whole outcry. If the government wants to spy at people and store information about handy calls, email, movement patterns and all everyone is against it (which is good). If Google does the same thing it is ok?
      I don’t see any logic in that.

    • http://blog.maexotic.de/ Maex

      I guess what you are missing is the fact (eg with your mail example) that usually ONE person/site owner sees an isolated subset of the user visiting/using their infrastructure.
      With GA this information is (for Google) trackable by IP address and User-Agent (make that a tuple and in case the UA changes or after some timeout assume a new user).
      That way Google can track users across the whole Internet and create profiles (think Google Ads)

      What you said about Cookies is very true. The European Parliament has new rules for cookies as well:
      http://register.consilium.europa.eu/pdf/en/09/st03/st03674.en09.pdf
      In short: you shall now install cookies in a users browser without prior consent.

    • daniel

      This is the best news forever for me ;) I’ve been working for many comapies as a web-dev and those analytics really scared me, I mean this way google is improving their business made them more powerful and giving website owners just little worth remains. Maybe a managers likes it but if we’re talking about serious business and data protection google technics are exactly against the law: you CAN’T easy edit or remove your data (under the law), it is more than dumping and just monopoly practices.

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    • http://www.dizisalonu.net dizisalonu

      it s not possible i think analytics is very big project around the world.

    • nweiki

      Google stold my sould and I want it back….
      Germany is right to be concerned. If people only knew who is behind Google besides the NSA and the CIA. They are also working with Facebook to put a face on all this account. Google DOES know who you are. They put a tracking ID on your PC which matches when you log into Google. That means they can actually track you where ever you log in. I have worked for a software company and we did work for a company that Google bought. Its very easy to put a name on collected data. And now with Facebook they will put a face. This means they are creating the biggest worlds human database in history. They will know what you like how you feel and where you are. Today you can put a name, and even your phone is able to get a picture for the contact from facebook. You can track persons with GPS phones and research with Google Maps. People dont even know what and how a human can be mapped based on their browsing history and behaviour. Just stop using google products. Specially their Chrome browser which has an ID that links your Google account. I would also stay away from gmail or any google services that requires log in. Search is ok, but they dont need to link your data to anything. Use TOR for safe browsing.

    • http://www.sowmo.com/mobile/this-week-on-techcrunch-very-bad-things-irritable-germans-retro-fall-outs-and-shopping-til-you-drop/1316 This week on TechCrunch: very bad things, irritable Germans, retro fall-outs and shopping til you drop | qface & sowmo sky

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    • http://german-weblaw.grpublic.de/index.php?/archives/4-Is-it-legal-to-use-Google-Analytics-Data-protection-in-Germany.html Web 2.0 & Law

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      The regular analysis of the behaviour of visitors is an elementary occupation of many webmasters, shop hosts and even bloggers, who want to be successful.

      Many of them use different tools such as google analytics, statcounter, etc, which offer a vas…

    • marc b

      I get it, because all you know about Germany is some infantile propaganda that was passed on to you by ignorant people and hollywood scripted games, you are using a derogatory, mocking tone to show your ignorance. Classy!

      So, that this post brings up a valide point regarding digital privacy and identity is irrelevant to you and your fellow curmudgeons, right?

      Would you also be so mocking if Wal-Mart decided that they would implant a recording and tracking device in the products they sell without your expressed permission? Then they could listen in on your conversations at home, see how and where you use the product you purchased, know when you enter their, or your competitors’ store when you wear the clothes with the attached tracking device, etc. Wouldn’t that be great?

    • marc b

      Ignorance may not be a defense, but ignorance that would cause morally culpability would require active disregard. How much can a person reasonably be aware of, especially when the laws, rules, regulations, guidlines, terms, etc. one expects others to be aware of are written in incomprehensible lawyer-ese, hidden away where no one will see it or notice the tiny little link that takes you there even if you wanted to attempt to read the terms, and other traps that are sprung on consumers who are reasonably trying to be knowledgeable and informed?

      The problem with people who spout the “ignorance is no defense before the law” lazy kind of syllogism are going to be, either on the doling end of the law, or not affected by it. It’s plain and simply a lazy and selfish postition to hold, à la, ‘as long as they don’t come for me I don’t care’.

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    • http://pniq.co.uk/2009/12/01/pn-digital-news-011209/ PN Digital News 01/12/09 «

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    • Jerry Evanworth

      My most pragmatic concern is that I should be able to disagree with a blog article or otherwise make a politically incorrect statement somewhere, without my business persona becoming part of the equation. Smaller blog owners would be the most dangerous and unpredictable if they were to know who every visitor really was, above and beyond IP address. Google wouldn’t risk its reputation embarrassing people for making un-PC comments anywhere.

    • anonymous person

      Use Tor, or switch to Freenet.

    • http://www.actu-ref.com/2009/12/03/google-analytics-illegal-en-allemagne/ Google Analytics Illégal en Allemagne | Actualités du référencement

      [...] indique également que 13% des webmasters allemands utilisent Google Analytics sur leur site. Techcrunch ajoute que parmi les 13% se trouvent aussi des sites d’organisations médiatiques, de partis [...]

    • Baz

      German’s are backwards.

    • http://www.cemper.com/news/personalized-search-for-everyone-so-what Old News or PR stunt? Google Personalized Search for Everyone!

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    • http://tutsvalley.com Slobodan Kustrimovic

      So, they banned it because it’s taking away privacy of surfers?

      What privacy, this is a world of NO PRIVACY… Facebook, MySpace, Twitter… Cmn we know what you had for breakfast this morning, you probably said on facebook or twitter.

      So Germany, if you ban google analytics you might want to ban the whole internet. :P

    • http://iok.com iok

      Млять вы че – ебанулись?! Google решает проблемы при оптимизации – они не расматриваеться откуда и куда идет – это надо для раскрутки – пиздец совсем какой то

    • Mary

      If that’s true..then would that not render most US or other country based services (like Facebook and other applications that track your ip address) illegal as well?

    • http://rmethorst.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/google-analytics-is-illegal/ Google Analytics is illegal… « GlobalClickz Curacao

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    • Mark C

      Of course Germany is also known for it’s terrific sense of humour.

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