Rumor has it that the rumors of a rumored Apple TV update at the non-rumored Apple music event on September 9 were just rumored and that Piper Jaffray’s Gene Munster was simply pulling more information out of his rear.

The Loop has a source who told another source that there wouldn’t be any new AppleTVs at the end, which could mean that there will either not be AppleTVs at the event or there will.

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