Thats my plan

While you can technically run an IDE environment in the browser, why would you? Also, a bespin-esque system works potentially fine if you’re coding for a website, but what about the massive number of non-website coding that occurs?

Why would I want to attempt to code Flash in a browser when I already have a stable, robust desktop app to do that?

Thats my plan

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wow this is much better than twitter news

I do think this is huge. See the talk I recently gave on the user-centered web for where things are going broadly; Google’s managed to provide a device platform that makes the ideas the web application community has been evangelizing for years much more real and vital.

Out of interest, Mike, how does this affect your CrunchPad plans, if at all?

So add in Wave, which is clearly part of the same Master Plan.

What’s the goal?

Cloud domination ?

I love google, but i agree.

unless we’ll see some monster SDK that lets u put desktop icons for web applications and make them feel like apps, and a shared database for user information and stuff like that (can be great for 1 sign-in for all sites)

I think it’s just like android, cool, but just unneeded (yes, i got android, yes, i developed for it..) .

>Not bad for a browser that’s less than a year old.

Pretty bad for any software that has a link on the Google home page

They do not even have extensions ready for their browser (I know they work on it)

great article and a great outlook – playing the ms wording

Seems like the same business model as Android: free OS to get more consumers on the web == more advertizing clicks and revenue. If the advertizing revenue dries up for some reason…wonder what will happen?

First it was Chrome vs Firefox, now its Chrome vs Ubuntu. Maybe they should stop re-inventing the wheel and focus on applications.

Classic business strategy – If you are losing a battle, redefine the battlefield where you have an advantage. For a decade, Google had no advantage or reason to fight the OS battle, and so they didn’t invest resources in it.

Now they have a chance to redefine the battlefield and enter the ring.

I don’t think there is any surprise here, Mike, or any reason to pat yourself on the back (just because other rags didn’t get it). People have been talking about Google taking on Microsoft (and the inevitable day when they compete in the OS market) since Google went public. It’s really no surprise to anyone with half a brain.

I agree I can live without Office but what about video editing or gaming or doing anything when I’m not connected.

No OS will ever topple windows until there is bullet-proof, per application, built-in emulation for windows applications. VM’s or dual boot are inconvenient. I think 75% of windows users have something in their “Program Files” that they just can’t live with out or get in another way. Yes 90% of your time is spent on the web but it’s the other 10% using thick apps that can’t be replaced. MS was in the right place at the right era and there is so much lock-in that it will take a serious evolution before that changes.

All of the above is going to happen. Some of that even happens in Chrome the browser, but identity standards and technologies are getting to the point where we will actually have a central point for information that we can use with any number of web apps.

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Don’t you think Microsoft would come up with an IE OS to compete with the Chrome OS?

Google Docs takes on Office.

Google Wave takes on Sharepoint.

The goal, I think, is to dominate the new model for computing, where we access our apps and our data from anywhere, using the device that makes sense for us at the time. The web is the perfect platform for this, and Google are all over the business model.

As we all know, it’s pretty useless to argue with maker of CrunchPad that the web isn’t everything.

The Internet is NOT everything.
Desktop apps will always be the most essential thing in an OS.
Chrome OS is just an effing browser. Period.

PS. Btw I bet my entire existence that CrunchPad will run on Chrome OS. :)

Oh, there’s where Wave fits in. Now I get it.

Oh my gawd, this is not a twitter related post!

The problem with Chrome right now is the lack of extensions, maybe they were keeping the extensions UI out of sight till this announcement?

Without the Windows.

The question I have for you Mike is will you bolt Google’s new OS underneath your own OS that you’re developing for the CrunchPad? We are discussing that here: http://friendfeed.com/scobleizer/d5128adb/i-wonder-if-mike-arrington-will-need-to-make

Maybe nice for Netbooks, but this can never be positioned against Windows as a whole.
Some people still need to get real work done instead of fiddling with laggy and buddy web applications.

Netbooks. The second, third, fourth, ubiquitous computer.

Google’s not aiming for your primary pc. Just all the others.

I quote “Chrome is nothing less than a full on desktop operating system that will compete head on with Windows”
full on desktop OS !
Lets look at what this is and isnt. To me an OS has to run various programs. This OS is Just and only used to run a single app. A browser. Lets take windows 7, remove everything, every app that exists except IE8 and then lock it so that u cannot install or uninstall anything. Who in their right mind would get excited about this let alone want to operate it,
If MS stripped their OS down and said sorry cant install anything at all and thats it what a huge uproar there would be.
I am just saying this as I was excited and then though what am I actually excited about.
A net book that was way worse than the first iPhone OS The one that only had web based apps which are not really apps in my opinion but wont even have a contact list app or a photos app. Ok they can use the browser to look at some stuff like that but hey.
Now we get excited and consider more is less. Remember XP lite. an app to strip stuff out of XP. Maybe there is a use for this but surely it is not revolutionary to take 99% of the OS away. Most people want more apps and options not less.

It’s a netbook OS; people don’t do those things on netbooks.

But it’ll be interesting to see where they take it from there.

I find this all very interesting, not because I particularly like Google (in some ways they scare the shit out of me), but because I think for most consumers this is headed in the right direction. For a lot of people, their computers are Word, and the browser, and their email. This makes more sense for them.

Of course, there are still issues: what happens when I connect a camera to my netbook, for example? Or a USB dongle? How does it handle those things?

We’ll find out pretty quickly when the source code gets released. We might, for example, see a Palm Pre type environment where local applications can also be written using web interface standards.

OK. So Google has an OS, a browser, web apps…
So it is like Microsoft in the 90′s. Where is the added value for the user?

Now this is what I call a constructive post, not like other blogs out there trying to gather attention and repeat the same stuff all over. If this goes as you say it would then MS definitely needs to buck up!

I believe this OS should be back targeting netbooks. I mean, are you sure ALL PC users have initernet the 1st time they own a new PC? and not all of us has a good internet speed. And not all of us trusts the internet.

not even mentioning the GIGANTIC gaming market

Nice development. And to be expected, haha.

“Most people want more apps and options not less.”

Technical users, yes. (I find myself struggling with the idea of running a programming IDE in the browser – although I’m sure it’ll happen.) But for many end-user consumers, this isn’t the case at all. Think about the simplified netbook interfaces that already exist on things like the Eee; sticking a web browser in place of that supercharges the same idea and actually increases the options while not really adding any extra complexity.

Yeah so how does this affect Crunchpad? Perhaps the simple answer is, it ramps up sales, speeds scale and makes it open source quicker so people with soldering irons and sheds can fiddle with wires and LCD’s rather than their wives or hard drives.

Conjugal rights are dead, long live the Shed Pimped Web Tablet!

I really hope this takes off, if only for purely selfish reasons. I already develop desktop style apps for the browser using AJAX/JS and I can see a lot more work coming in as a result of this.

Plus, of course, I am in support of anything that will eat into the market share of Microsoft’s sluggish buggy browsers (IE8 is included in this).

we are going to have a new king for computer and internet , i seems Google will just rule the internet and computer world , they are great .

Wait… what if someone doesn’t have Internet access?

Obviously, no one thought of that…

Mmm, Silverlight-based application suites. Gives me a warm feeling at the pit of my stomach.

Oh, no, not warm. What’s the other one? Nausea.

Well it’s interesting, they reinvent can you explain how a javascript/html combo will be as efficient as a native, hardware accelerated, optimized framework ?

HTML 5 supports offline application use. But you probably would need to connect to the Internet to use an application for the first time.

Scoble let me explain tech to you..

CrunchPad uses a Linux Kernel and Browser with probalby an x86 CPU..

So its simply a matter of putting Chrome OS in CrucnhPad to replace the Debian/FF setup already on CrunchPad..

There is no bolting of Chrome OS under another OS you damn effing high tech simpleton!

Jesus effing christ that is as bad as the being taken in that rumour of MS buying Mahalo.com..

You remember that Bobby Scobbie?

Web apps wont flourish untill we can save html on harddisk. You can see how Adobe AIR platform overtook web browsers for apps.

The day we can save gmail.html and gdocs.html on our hard-disk, web apps wont go anywhere.

mac at home for heavy lifting. Netbook with Chrome/Gears/GMail/GoogleApps/HTML5 for portable and iPhone/Android for walking about

with all the respect Mike, Joel Spolsky nailed it way back in 2004
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html

and still, the “damm get out of the way” is what bothers the software industry for decades. It’s not that easy. And as real fan and user of Ubuntu, well, it still doesn’t “gets out of the way”.

And if the internet ever goes down, you’ll be peeing in your TC-logo onesies and running back to Papa Bill! Yippy! More reporting about absolutely nothing.

well, twitter will clearly work on the Chrome Browser, running on the Chrome OS. I wonder if I’ll be able to run Twitter clients via Adobe Air…

the netflix implementation is pretty darn cool.

For starters, It’s FREE!!!

how to be successful, by Mike Arrington: find a parade, jump in front of it. :-)

all of this was very obvious last year. it’s just putting the pieces together. In another few years we’ll look back and wonder about the days that we had stand alone desktop apps.

well, i’m assuming the bad parts of linux will be stripped out…like the UI. :-)

and to be clear, i’m nowhere near to saying that i was the first to predict all this. not even close.

you should read up on gears and html5 and offline use. plus, eventually the internet going down should be about as frequent as the electricity turning off.

They stated they are also aiming up to desktops. If most people sit in front of windows at work and windows at home then they’ll want windows on the move. MS can kill this by just releasing a better, lighter version of windows for mobile platforms

Haha yeah, apparently the Internet isn’t EVERYTHING there is to an OS.

Surely this be the default OS on the Crunchpad?

as opposed to Windows locking up, which happens regularly – at least weekly for me.

Your are so naive and narrow-minded

It should be interesting to watch which OS finally comes out on top :)

This will hit desktop PC’s as well as soon as ‘streamed’ gaming works well enough. Instead of WoW clogging up 15Gb on your hard drive, you just login through a web browser and BAM playing with no slow down in full screen resolution.

Can’t wait.

It’s so fun to reinvent the wheel on the net, so that in five years webapps will finally be the same that the desktop apps 10 years ago :)

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Pat yourself with both hands Michael. Regarding typing the article I think you can afford a speech to text software.

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/gazelle-062909.aspx

basically MS are doing the same

You’ll have access to everything on your desktop, still, via Mr. Cloud living in your browser.

And your Chrome os apps living in Wave.

But your desktop will also have the power to run other, more demanding apps.

At least for the first few years, until the OS catches up.

That Google Gears

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Fred,

CrunchPad OS has many functions for touch and input with an optical keypad, etc. Those sit on top of an OS. What we both said is not mutually exclusive. Why you need to be an arrogant ass, I don’t know.

CrunchPad OS will sit on top of something, either Debian, or Google’s OS. Thanks for playing the game.

They’re all bloggers, the lot of them.

What about things like itunes and photo management etc. These are things that people do use netbooks for regularly, that aren’t web based.

Reports of Microsoft being ‘killed’ are greatly exaggerated, there is the expected speculation and this is an intriguing development but it’s a way off yet before passing judgement!

As you state Microsoft does have a very serious competitive threat to the core of their revenues but this has been on the cards a while.

I already have a free OS (linux) and a free browser (firefox/opera/ie/etc) and I can run “web applications” in my browser.

What purpose does this serve the actual users rather than Google Corp.?

Seems to me its just Google taking a poke at Microsoft and hoping the “open source community” will do the hard work of actually developing apps for it so its even usable.

It’s a red herring. ;)

Mike: How do you feel about being the RD lab for Google :-)

EXACTLY…

I agree 100% the importance of this. My back is also warm from all the patting – here is what I wrote in a October 2005 slashdot comment:

> Is there a GoogleOS in our future?
Effectively, yes. The internet and associated protocols, data structures etc are becoming more and more important, and the underlying OS less and less important – you can do a lot now (email, edit notes, images etc, dispatch compute jobs etc) with a web browser without caring about the underlying OS.

Web browsers currently are limiting. Many user interface aspects of web browsers suck, therefore so do any applications which rely on the browser for user interface.

But gradually standards are emerging which provide software infrastructure for web applications, e.g. the Google Maps thing. I guess Java is too slow to be the infrastructure, and the standard Java interface libraries are also a but weak for GUIs. Google are producing some of this infrastructure, which might end up as a kind of middleware OS. Some of it might end up in the browser itself; there was a rumor a while ago that Google were writing their own browser – I think that is likely.

Dont say big words like Gears and Wave. So called wave being nothing but fb messaging between 3 or more – with thumbnail pics of course.

Being simple is important, browser should store html including all js files inside single html file within script tags.

lol!!

But seriously Mikie, Let us make this deal..For any non Twitter news, each reader will click 3 ads? Deal?

Michael,

I just loved one of your comment “In another few years we’ll look back and wonder about the days that we had stand alone desktop apps”

Would like to see a post on it

Mikie,

I have always believed that Microsoft’s ‘Kitchen Sink’ is to opensource Windows.

Do you agree?

Technically: yes. Financially:no, because Microsoft couldn’t charge enough. Every netbook bought instead of a desktop is a big loss for MS, because the license is cheaper.

Bolting an OS under an OS?

Scoble isn’t very smart.

OK
We have office on the internet, but the games? I talk here about real games like NFS, FEAR and more

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I think that is probably very close to replacing operating system but then at this moment and for some time in future I do not see operating system being replaced. Dependency on it may be reduced but a machine to become independent of operating system is a bit too much at-least for now.

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Web OS, a great idea.

Until the day you decide to plug your camera/memory card with pictures to your computer and the internet app you’re using fails miserably while transferring 4.8gb of pictures online so you can use some sub-par ajax imaging software to alter the light balance.

It’s heading in the right direction, but we’re still not there, so let’s not jizz in our collective pants quite yet.

I give 7-10 years from now to a 50-50 between MS and google on the Chrome/Windows war.
and hey… what about all the Linux brands out there?

Like iPhoto?

It will be free? Come on! if Google see a way to make you pay for it, they will. Just as they are doing it for Google Apps today. So grow up and report without the traditional M$ bashing. all these companies are there to make money.

Open sourcing Windows would be heaven for phishers and spammers. 10,000 vulnerabilities all made public at once!

I’d never use this outside MAYBE a netbook. Remember how well Apple’s iphone browser based apps went?

I am sorry I don’t want to step backwards and not have full control over everything I want to do on my PC. How am I meant to burn a dvd? edit large videos? edit photos? I am sorry the internet isn’t ready, and even if it were it’d still suck.

I reserve total judgment until we see implementation, but I think I’ll be sticking with windows.

comcast is down for 5 hours now in my area. and miami is not exactly a third world country.

no problem, i’ll continue working on this spreadsheet due tomorrow.

wait, my OS is Google Chrome… i’m screwed!

comcast is down for 5 hours now in my area. and miami is not exactly a third world country.

no problem, i’ll continue working on this spreadsheet due tomorrow.

wait, my OS is Google Chrome… i’m screwed!

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OK. I’ll concede that they’ll take a small slice of the netbook market – I’m just saying all this talk of Google wiping out Windows or “Google drops a Nuclear bomb on windows” is absurd. I’m not really sure microsoft care about losing one percentage point of their growing market.

If Gaikai works as advertised then gaming shouldn’t be a problem (assuming Chrome OS ships with flash, which is likely)

http://www.gaikai.com/

“I find myself struggling with the idea of running a programming IDE in the browser – although I’m sure it’ll happen.”

Already done:

https://bespin.mozilla.com/

No chance in hell am I going to use a web-based version of photoshop!

Man, am I glad that Google didn’t *really* write “We really, really hate Microsoft.”[1] because that would really turn me off. I don’t believe for a second that Google (or Apple, for that matter) is any better than Microsoft in the long run.

[1] http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/small_00.html

Opera users double click submit buttons.

Yeh that’s all nice and futuristic and all. But I still live in Germany where we don’t have Internet 24/7, some days we don’t have it at all.

It’s not a commodity like in the US or other first world countries.

Our entire cutesie little country is backed by the Telekom monopoly which is about 10x worse than AT&T for comparison and owns 90% of the copper in the ground.

For a web based OS to take steam, countries need to level up to a common standard, otherwise corporate will not adopt it because they can’t rely on the net being there.

What is an OS? When I worked at Microsoft they showed an OS as being layers. UI is top layer. Kernel and Drivers being bottom layer. Both are considered OS. Pedantic OS arrogance is worse than any of my many sins.

ChromeOS might be killing Windows (at least it should on netbooks), but is it also killing Android? (at least on netbooks it is) Is Android now doomed? Just saying…

I mean seriously you people just don’t get the REAL world and neither does Arrington

Less than 0.5% of people in the USA are using cloud based productivity apps like Google docs. And in hundreds of other countries it’s almost zero.

Oh, and what about Chrome? Less than 6% market share.

And now you are all having orgasms over a Linux Distro + a web browser and you have the audacity to say it will (nuclear) bomb Windows!!! ha ha

I would love someone to do a running count of all the doom and gloom statements made between the year 2000 and now and all the hyperbole statements made around cloud computing, apps, open source, Linux, blah, blah, blah.

And what has happened to Wave in the mainstream real world? Zero, nadda, nothing.

You people live in an alternate universe which in no way reflects the real world majority and the statements and claims you are making (like Google OS nuclear bombing Windows) are just plain stupid.

good to hear it will be amazing

Couldn’t agree more. I think this is Google’s entry into the OS market. They had to do something different right? A purely browser based OS will never compete with what windows offers now.

Editing/storing photo’s, videos, gaming, downloading and burning dvds, etc etc. I see the web becoming a primary part of the OS (if it isn’t already) but it can’t be all there is to it. I’d never use this on my home PC, however on a device like the crunchpad it makes sense.

As the Web Applications get better, people start using them. Soon you don’t need YOUR pc to work, you need a single-sign on (google developing), you need some office apps (google developing), mail (google), disk-space (google) and some few other apps, which of course you all can use on web.
And as it happened to Google Apps, of course you will pay for ALL of the these Web-Apps , so finally google can monetize them.

Online-Gaming is much more fun than playing alone offline and online-apps will be so much more useful than offline apps (which are tied to a single pc&hdd). As it happened in online-gaming, this is the (long-term) way to finally force people paying for the software they use.

p.s. of course there are some heavy-apps which wont fit into the plan..yet! They will soon.

well played and well said Michael

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only difference is that: MS is only “speaking” and telling us of Abstraction and so on in a paper whereas Google Press release says the beta will be out next yr middle.

Oh and Microsoft’s Browser based OS will NOT be free as you may dream it to be :D

Hopefully the extensions will come when they are right, rather than releasing them early and buggy.

‘Don’t you think Microsoft would come up with an IE OS to compete with the Chrome OS’

they have one already…its called windows…doh!

The writing for this has been on the wall for years. Google have had to do this. Think about it, without doing this and android, their business model is totally dependent on other people, microsoft, apple, phone vendors etc…who at a stroke of a pen could make some change that knocks google out of the running…

So how do they protect their business. Simple, have their own OS….Android+linux for phones, Chrome + linux for PCs.

And yes people still use desktop, thick client apps on windows, but dont you think that once windows stops being the default operating system in every pc that vendors will start writing more and more apps that run on linux. There will be a tipping point where they will have to, and that cant be that far away, with more and more linux installs appearing all the time.

I use windows, but the only windows only apps i use are msn and paint. apart from that its all browser, which is Chrome or Firefox.

The great thing is that Microsoft cannot copy this business model, as they would be cutting their own throats. Who would buy windows if even Microsoft were giving up on it!

The desktop OS is dead…long live Chrome

No Android and Chrome sit side by side…and feed off each other

Uhm… what about China, India and, well, half of the world’s population? Not only the Internet does go down here (I’m in Shanghai), but the government disables services all the time, without having to give an explanation. I think we’ll not be shifting to the cloud anytime soon in this part of the world…

Agreed.

But Google and Apple are constantly raising the bar at the moment, as it looks like Microsoft are struggling to keep up

yeah windows is still the king of os for a long time
the google chrome book is great btw

Sorry but the net has been reliable and cheap in most leading industrial nations for years…even Germany!

+1.

These stats are something fanboys need to address.

With Chrome, Wave, OS et al Google is fighting everyone on every front. We’ll see just how big the GoogleBorg is with all these nascent apps underway.

Google has still only ever won one battle decisively – search.

I think Chrome is the best browser but there are tons of web users who either don’t give a shit or they don’t have rights to install anything else. M$ kicks Google’s ass in the office. For this OS thing to be a success they’re gonna have to announce some pretty big deals with a few hardware co’s. For a lot of users choice in today’s internet stack is still nothing more than what site they’re going to visit.

Android still hasn’t caught on – there are other superstars out there. I don’t think this will be a success.

and now all that apple fanboys get into deep trouble ’cause the only argument they have for buying those crappy 3k laptops is mac os x.

and will apple allow this chrome os to be installed on their stylo machines – i don’t think so … there’s not even a final mac version of chrome’s browser yet

so it’s not only a nuke on microsoft’s head, think apple should be scared even more

Isn’t that exactly what they are already trying to build since W’95?

I guess Google has some apps that could be used more efficiently with some client side OS support. Imagine what server load would generate if anyone could use Google maps for navigation purposes. But if you could only use it for navi when you have Google OS installed, you would certainly install it.

The web will be everything. There is no need for desktop applications when you can do it better and more comfortable on the web.

The CrunshPad will probably be released to early (at least I hope so) to run ChromeOS. But I firmly believe that a later version of the CrunchPad will run ChromeOS or that there will be an update available to switch from whatever it ships with to ChromeOS.

… at least that’s what I would do.

It will be free? Come on! if Google see a way to make you pay for it, they will. Just as they are doing it for Google Apps today.

If only Google had the forethought to have invented some mechanism to allow you to work offline, and automatically synchronize your offline changes back upstream to the server after you reconnect to the internet.

http://gears.google.com/

On one hand saying that Google Chrome is an operating system is complete nonsense. You can use the same approach to IE8, Firefox etc. Its a browser not an OS.

On the other hand lets try and rethink what an os will be in the future with the back-end being the web. If we try not to use existing models to affect our thinking then there is a lot of sense in what Google is doing, particularly if the intended hardware platforms are netbook, set-top boxes and hell fridges etc.

Do you believe they have it? :)

Paint?

Good god!

One other point… so I expect we will see G drive sooner rather than later then.

Yeah the ChromeOs is basically Palms WebOs for the desktop. If they take the same route then you access system libraries and functions through javascript. That means that you have to write seperate *apps* for the ChromeOs but then that is okay because you will only do that to access special functions.

Of all the articles on TC, this has to be the dumbest article I have seen.

Chrome, could never replace Windows as the de-facto operating system in the real world. Maybe for tech geeks it will be a wet dream that is still years away, but for the normal average users (both business and personal), it will never happen. There are so many things that have to happen in order for it to occur that it makes it an impossibility. Standardization of hardware interfaces, device drivers, CPUs, memory, and all other things that make up a computer and what make operating systems so complicated is years away. In reality, Microsoft has done the most in this area by forcing hardware manufacturers to adhere to a certain driver architecture.

Next, lets talk applications. Nothing is ever going to replace MS Office as the best productivity suite. Sure, there is open office and the extremely limited online versions, but in reality, nothing matches the power of MS Office and most business who use it will be hard pressed to replace it.

This dream of a Google OS is a dream for tech geeks and will not happen in the real world of business users.

Yes, it’s for the third world countries, you are right.

But can you run skype on chromeos :)

ROFL

Great at doing WHAT? :)

As Arrington himself accepts with humility, that he possibly would not be the “first to predict all this, not even close”.

I am also one of the people who thought of this and predicted this. Obviously, I also can’t at all claim to be the first one. (Can take this liberty of boasting, as am posting anonymously)

I saw the point (approx 3 years back) why such a thing, as an Internet OS (or at-least as browser-sandbox within the OS) was needed.

One simple reason is that, as some body earlier commented, that most people use their computers 80% for things (apps/services/info) on the Internet (I suspect this percentage is only going to increase). These are the category of people who actually use computer to get their work done.

Not the people who build stuff for the computer i.e. programmers and the like (who will need a more traditional desktop, lest we have emacs and eclipse working within a browser with svn in the cloud??)

So in the present day of over 90% computers for those end-user-kind-of-users running Windows (XP) all the services and desktops hardly get used. And actually compete with the browser for the CPU time. And often it could be because of accidentally installing some stuff and it becomes a “service for ever”. As GOOG blog mentions this indirectly, “computer growing slower over time”.

So for all such kind of use as over 90% of the people already use today, XP + browser is highly in-efficient. Hence the browser wars for making Java-script fast. Google’s approach of giving a hard-look ground up is very much needed. Adobe AIR etc. are sincere but self-doubting half-steps.

What I would like is Windows 7 or 8 to take serious note of this and do course correction along this line. As last thing we need is another monopoly. Just like we had in the desktop era, we need perhaps 3 or 4 web OS’es at-least. (So Apple/MS hope you read TechCrunch blog)

Alternate model:
I had also thought of an alternate model. In which the desktop computer growing more thicker (but smarter). In that case, it can take off lot of CPU load of the services in the cloud. (Perhaps AJAX and native java-script are answers for this in the thin model itself)

Paradigm shifts often solicit comments like @M2CDO’s.

Galileo
Darwin
Model-T
Nuclear Energy
DNA
Personal Computer
Web OS

Yep, right on the money. I’m sure Microsoft has reason to be worried for the future, but chrome/gmail/apps/docs/twitter + the next big bubble isn’t a normal computer usage experience for everyone. There’s a lot of very ordinary folk doing very ordinary stuff as well as very ambitious people doing stuff that needs computing power that these cloud “utility tools” just can’t provide.

Oh, and let’s not forget people who aren’t connected to the Internet 25 hours a day.

How about older hardware driver compatibility such as video card.
Also for the gamers, can the new chrome pc play popular pc game as windows. So do thousands of softwares..
If it is not a problem at all due the browser structure.
I guess the impact not only Gates but HP, Dell as no more combo game making the big pc maker dominate the market by low OS cost.

…and you’re still wrong.

you might wish to enlighten yourself on gears…

It will not be that simple for google. MS has the advantage of having huge number of companies and developers working on their platforms developing various applications. They have been doing this for more than 2 decades now. This advantage is not going to go away this soon. Google may be is in the right directions but still there is a long way to go. I do not see all of my daily work fitting into this netbook.

Especially what about corporates? People have just learned to use MS Office there probably over there and now you want them to shift to some browser based office having <1% features of MS Office 2007? I am sorry but that is not happening soon.

People like Michael will benefit from this as most of their work is online but for most people this is not true.

I think Google should focus on scaling up Android to Netbooks rather than giving people just the browser. Chrome hardly plays youtube videos properly for me at this moment!

The statement “Don’t worry about those desktop apps you think you need. Office? Meh. You’ve got Zoho and Google Apps. ” alone is good enough for me to ignore MA’s thoughts on anything about Microsoft. If he really thinks that companies with hundreds of thousands of employees and millions of Excel generated reports that are now fully automized and with custom built processes will all of a sudden stop using MS Office and get on Google’s OS, he is a clueless fanboy…. Awwww cute!!!

Yea use your stupid Google OS for your stupid self… while i will continue to use OS X for Work and Windoes for games. Lets see you become productive. The problem with so called tech bloggers, is they think apps are those things that you only use for typing, simple photo editing, simple presentation software, simple doc editing… The reality ITS NOT, MIke, You are not the world… you bumbling moron. But i dont blame you, cause what you do for a living is just type moronic articles such as this and pat yourself on the back. HAHAHAHA. pathetic bozo!

The Microsoft monopoly on the OS was bad enough.

What’s coming now is MUCH worse:

1 company aiming to be able to track everyone. (For the sake of more precise personality profiles, which are supposed to generate more ad $$$.)

What about your privacy? WHAT privacy.

I am not sure if Google will keep on carrying Gears once HTML 5 gains widespread acceptance. It will take some time, though.

Fear not! HTML 5 will include offline support. :) http://www.w3.org/TR/offline-webapps/

My thoughts:

a) The people getting excited about this seem to be the ’99ers? Those that grew up only on HTML and are amazed at how simple to use and robust an actual software application can be vs. clicking through endless HTML pages.

b) Google is NOT raising the bar – they are trying to change the game – plus provide a migration path – trick was learned from Microsoft – Microsoft invented it.

c) Wave = Lotus Notes (next generation). There are core architectural reasons why “email” beat out Lotus Notes. i.e. Limiting factors of Wave – think about where all that data will reside and the implications…

Wave is more interesting as competition to Microsoft Exchange in corporations, Wave database hosted by the firm, especially small business, as Exchange Administration is a nightmare.

d) Nothing is free. Microsoft can always lower prices and match any business model Google does if required.

e) Microsoft has $24 in cash.

My personal hope is MSFT will go down further and create a great buying opportunity.

Doubt that they will. Why wouldn’t Google just re-announce Android then? ChromeOS makes sense. I think Android is doomed, at least the brand itself can’t have much lifetime. Will go the way of the AS/400…

The keyword: will.

That’s the future and I hope it is true. More choices are usually* better. It surely is not happening today with Windows Mobile.

* Conditions apply. Void where prohibited. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice:_Why_More_Is_Less (Blatantly off-topic)

I don’t understand why people place so much importance on Silverlight. It can only succeed if Microsoft holds off on implementing HTML 5. …

Plug that information with the fact that Microsoft has yet to comment on its roadmap regarding HTML 5 and voila!

Will the people here from DoJ please stand up?

You are such a tool. Unless it supports a real file system and a hardware abstraction layer, its not an o.s. Please m.a., go back to school and get a comp sci degree before you feign intelligence.

You clearly have not looked into 03D (http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/) and other HTML 5 … wait, I feel like I am spamming here with HTML 5 related posts. …

Or is it a recurring theme?

Yeah, but you claim there’s some battle they’re losing. Which battle is that?

Not all of us trust microwave ovens, or city-supplied water.

They have alternatives: tin-foil hats and South Beach Beverage Company …

Are you saying, NO Internet access at all? I am sure some clever developer will build something to allow you to download data and apps on another computer, bring it in a flash drive and put it in your computer and run it with HTML 5 …

… wait a minute, I demand the W3C to pay me if I mention HTML 5 once again!

flash? look at Google O3D. Hardware accelerated 3D in the browser. Combine that intelligently with the cloud environment and you get a glimpse at the future of gaming.

Michael, I don’t say this often, but you are a genius – either an accidental one, or one by birth.

Your Crunchpad does exactly this: strips out the heavy OS for just a browser.

But I’ll say one thing: Windows isn’t going anywhere soon. That’s because most people with netbooks already have a desktop/laptop at home. And making people switch from Windows to an entirely browser based OS is too radical a change to come about quickly. Windows will stick around for half a dozen years at least.

People like me use 90% of their pc time on the internet. I could use a browser based OS. But damn I’ll miss MS One Note 2007.

I think the pieces are coming together. Googp:comment_author_IP>
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Will this free OS come with Adsense built in to pay for it?

One more thought:

A reason why Windows is always precieved as “buggy” is the open platform business model vs. Apple’s close platform.

If Googles copies Windows with 3rd party hardware, drivers, ect… then the world will see the Windows is NOT as buggy as precieved…

…its a business trade-off that Apple did not make (nor Sun, nor IBM) and a reason why they all got crushed.

[...] news in TechCrunch Google Drops A Nuclear Bomb On Microsoft. And It’s Made of Chrome, Google Chrome: Redefining The Operating System and in the NYT Google Plans a PC Operating [...]

“Fast forward to today. The Chrome browser now has 30 million active users, says Google, and tracking services say it has 6% or so market share.”

If 30 million active users is 6% share, than our 300 million active Firefox users should be about 60% share, right? No? OK.

Google Chrome has about 2%, maybe 2.5% share. Please watch the exaggerations. Thanks.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/86b864c0-6b87-11de-9320-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1

naturally– jump out front of the parade :|
Ignore crediting drudge and FT

lol.

[...] TechCrunch: Google Chrome: Redefining The Operating System [...]

I LOVE FIREFOX .also Google too .

I still fail to understand why people think the traditional OS is going to be overrun by a browser. Some of you seem to be living in a mystical Utopian.

Per NPD/GigaOm
http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_090622b.html

http://gigaom.com/2009/06/23/as-small-notebooks-netbooks-largely-dash-expectations/

*60 percent of netbook owners expected the device to have the same functionality as a notebook.

*65 percent of the 18- to 24-year old demographic expected their netbook to perform better than a notebook

Seems the majority of people want their Netbook to work like a traditional Windows desktop, both with speed and functionality. A browser doesn’t do this. You say “don’t use Office, use Google Docs.” That’s simple enough, but it rarely happens outside of the people who read TechCrunch (quick, how many people use Google Docs or Zoho per month?)

The point is that what you think is a revolution, isn’t. People still want a desktop OS. Since the day Netbooks shipped with Linux their was a very large community trying to put Windows XP on the 4GB SSD. There is a very good reason for this and maybe people should look at the market a bit more instead of trying to predict _gmt>2009-07-08 15:33:23

Android/ChromeOS? Make up your mind already. I use chrome because it has a fast javascript engine, but no WAY would I consider ditching Windows for a new linux-based OS by the guys who take years to bring an email client out of beta.

Anyone who believes the Google story is kidding themselves.

that is pure ownage.

Microsoft does not have a monopoly on the OS. You can buy Mac OS, multiple flavors of Linux, Unix, etc. If you don’t like Windows USE SOMETHING ELSE!!

I give you permission for a session of hearty own-back-patting!

[...] which they could easily integrate with their Operating System. This is already creating a lot of buzz on the internet and I can not wait to see what other details will they be giving about this new [...]

The reality is that it will be a Linux distro with a browser focused UI. Nothing new here…

What I hope comes about from this exercise is an app store that will spur commercial entities like Adobe et al to port their products to linux.

I am really excited to hear this.

A couple people have mentioned Adobe AIR, but no one has pointed out that at least from a developer perspective this isn’t much different from AIR?

You said “The browser is the platform. The browser is the UI.” — That is exactly the case in AIR today. And before people start bashing Flash, remember that you can develop AIR apps with HTML/JS – and the browser in AIR is webkit based so HTML5 support shouldn’t be far off. File system access, yep. Java interaction, yep (Merapi). Offline support – yep, already have it…

I “get” the main differences between the Chrome OS and AIR, but as a developer I’m not peeing my pants in anticipation here…unless I’m missing something?

In a talk in Silicon Valley in 1997, I predicted that the browser would become the OS. I mentioned that Netscape had a unique opportunity to unseat Microsoft by embedding apps into the browser. They failed to change the world twice – and as is often the case, Microsoft profit not from their own ingenuity, but the failure of their competitors to do the job properly.

I doubt it, but html5 apps should be just as good. :)

There already is a web based version of photoshop – it’s not half bad either (https://www.photoshop.com/express/landing.html). These kind of apps will eventually grow to be just as good as the full featured desktop clients, trust me. Heck, some of them already are as good, if not better (like SlideRocket).

i was just thinking that….

how does this make chrome an OS?

Hell, I have IE…if i attached windows 7 to it, it becomes an operating system.

So in the EU will it come without Chrome Browser? That’s going to be one barebones OS.

Michael – you’ve just nailed the problem with “Google OS”.

When the browser IS the OS, isn’t the answer to “I wonder if it will run…?” invariably be “No”?

The web is obviously a very powerful platform, but are people going to choose the stripped down proprietary version of Linux, or the full version that allows them to run their favourite IM client?

Also, I don’t think you’ve mentioned, but we’ve already been here before – with the original iPhone and Apple’s vision for “web apps”. People didn’t want them and Apple was forced to open up the rest of the OS to developers.

Your predictions were spot on, but I’m not convinced it’s something people will want to actually use.

Good to see that Google is involved in many areas, on the other hand, Google is present in lots of areas, what will this do with privacy and monopoly issues?
The next Microsoft on steroids?

[...] operating system based on its Google Chrome browser, called Google Chrome OS. Michael Arrington is patting himself on the back for having predicted that Google would do such a thing back in the ancient times of 2008 when we [...]

If Google delivers on this promise, then your minimalist Linux OS and FireFox browser combo for the CrunchPad seems to be headed the way of the Betamax.

so if msft annoucnes IE as an o/s, with the windows 7 kernal attached, does that make IE an o/s?

Chrome is not an o/s.. it will still be a netbook running linux.

just shake those *haters* off scoble & keep up the good work

Ummm… save as html but your idea is flawed. I think I see what you are getting at – storing web apps on your computer but first of all… what would be the point? The apps will have to communicate with the designer’s server anyway which still requires an internet connection. And updates wouldn’t be pushed out immediately like today’s web allows. You are completely missing the point of the internet.

And another thing… Combining everything in one file would be impossible to maintain. Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a bug in a html file with only 1200 lines of code? Throw everything together and you’d have millions (literally) of lines. Combining everything into one would also break javascript frameworks such as script.aculo.us or jQuery. And what about images, audio and video?

> But hey, at least they can now point to Google when the antitrust guys come knocking.

I have to disagree strongly with you here. Since Google OS will be opensource, largely based on Linux kernel, and free (as in beer AND as in freedom), I doubt the atitrust guys will be able get a case.

So how much information will Google know about a user now? Where they are, what they search for, who they know, what documents they’ve written, what people email them and now, all online activity (include applications) and the machine you have.

I hated Microsoft back in the day, but I’m sorry, Microsoft were never this scary.

I’m very glad about this news that Google now has its own operating system. I’m looking forward for Google Chrome OS.

He’s pushing this because the OS on the crunch tablet is weak.

and has better performance than flash

I mean seriously M2CDO, you couldn’t point to the real world given an iPhone with a built-in compass.

“hyperbole statements made around cloud computing, apps, open source, Linux, blah, blah, blah”

Apache webservers (open source) run half of all web servers on the internet… pretty much running on Linux. That’s double IIS and Windows.
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html

And, um… Wave is a private beta right now. By definition it can’t have wide-spread adoption.

Why don’t you go astro-turf the cave you live in with more MS propaganda. Stop reporting on the REAL world if you don’t live in it.

It’s not that Silverlight can’t power interesting apps – it can, and does, as you note. In some ways it’s better than Flash. But the web has become ubiquitous because of its standards-based device agnosticism. Because of Windows, Microsoft’s whole strategy runs counter to wp:comment_date>2009-07-08 09:26:03
2009-07-08 16:26:03

There are other options, OSX being the most notable but looks like W7 will really be impressive from all I have read and seen about it so far, it’s good competition comes into the netbook category.

Jon

I’m glad MSFT is getting competition. This is good for everyone, but I have a number of issues with a Chrome OS taking over the world:
1) Antitrust – I want to be able to run multiple browsers on my OS. Not interested in being locked down by anyone.
2) Desktop Apps – sorry, but we’re years away from having the entire Adobe Suite being totally browsers based. This also applies to Movie editing, corporate applications, dvd playback/ripping/authoring, etc.
3) Ownership rights – with everything moving to browser-based SAAS apps, laws do not sufficiently protect my content when its on the web. I don’t for a second believe that Google can’t lose my data, accidentally share it, or misuse it and that I’ll have much of any recourse.
4) Backup – I can backup all my local content to Mozy and verify from time to time that its all there. But when all our content is on web-based Mozys, how can I be sure its being backed up to a third party?
5) Portability – I can open the same file type in multiple desktop applications. But SAAS apps don’t lend themselves to the same level of flexibility.

In conclusion, I AM excited about the progress Google is making…but let’s not get ahead of ourselves. This is going to cut into the Netbook business and over time, as Chrome OS matures, it can start to take more of a bite into MSFT. But the web is not sufficiently mature to completely replace the desktop so let’s not pretend its a MSFT-killer just yet.

I agree; it’s actually scary. Privacy and user control over who has access to your data is extremely important.

The game isn’t over: it’s possible to still have this web-based model (perhaps even using Chrome OS!) without sacrificing privacy.

Microsoft has already made their counter-move to a Google OS. It’s called Windows Azure. It’ll serve apps to the Google OS with ease and MS will make money in the process.

Yeah, I know today the money be nowhere near what the Windows OS makes, but while the Google OS is gaining traction as a desktop OS, Azure will be gaining traction as an app hosting platform for that very same Google OS and others.

+1
So Google announce an OS that will do less than existing open source OSes, which have failed in the NetBook market. And this is supposed to magically succeed?

Do you really *want* it to succeed? Does a client OS really need to be a Java Script execution engine? is that really the best way forward for the computer industry?

Android is for smart phones, Chrome OS is for PC’s. It’s pretty clear that Google are committed to HTML5 and such so it’s likely that we’ll see the Android browser get these benefits as well down the line. But in general the use cases for a netbook/laptop/desktop are pretty different than a smart phone. (If for no other reason that you have a lot more processing power and screen space.)

Google have repeatedly said that Android is not meant for netbooks. This is obviously why.

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True, that this is an operating system, but it doesn’t begin to make your earlier statement correct. Chrome (Pre-OS) was not, by any definition, an operating system. And Chrome OS won’t be the first OS to focus solely on the Internet, there have been other Linux OSs like that. Microsoft have even been planning Azure (Which is [i]sorta[/i] like this) for a while now.

This is nothing but the product of plain stupidity and wastage of those 20% time and money.

there are already many flavers of linux.

but cruchpad and apple’s is in grave danger.

yes. google is no more devil now.

[...] just got a call from a friend who is an super Google fan boy. Of course he wants to talk about Googles new Chrome OS. His question, “What do you think about [...]

You mean they will port chrome to linux finally?? Oh, I have to get the whole OS to get the browser….. hmm… who does that sound like?

This sounds like epic fail to me, we already have linux on netbooks, what are google bringing to the table besides an announcement? We still have wifi problems, still have opening “word files” problems… google docs and OOo exist now, but somehow people don’t want to use them.

Putting a browser on a netbook is *not* impressive by any stretch of the imagination.

+1
Microsoft said that it will be a combination of cloud and normal computer, and I agree totally

You can do it. It is called Live Mesh and it’s from Microsoft.

Michael, you’re missing a huge point here – the browser is NOT the platform, the web is the platform. The browser is just the UI and the linux kernel handles the local hardware, security and windowing. I expect to see an API that leverages remote, cloud-based functionality (storage being the obvious one). You’re not thinking big enough.
- James

Mike: Good point about the parade. Going back to the browser OS discussion. Does anybody remember MyWebOS.com back in 1999? Then IE 5.0 was THE browser. MyWebOS came to show a viable application platform can in fact be build with Css, Javascript, HTML. I speculate here, but it seems Microsoft actually did pay attention, but guess what they did: they broke the Javascript behaviors first introduced in 5.0 and replaced them with their better, new, more complicated behavior model, no one considered using anyway. Essentially, they end up killing MyWebOS and no attempt has been made rebuilding until the Google time. Personally, I welcome the development. Everyone should get the deserved for the lack of vision. This time there is a crowd and a parade forms.

How can you “do it better and more comfortable” on the web?

This is very interesting that Google is going into the O/S business, I can’t wait to see how all this plays out as surely Microsoft are in for a serious battle. It’s about time a company delivered Microsoft a fatal blow & I’m hopeful that Google is the company to do it.

Did I say anything around the iPhone? I own one moron so your comment = FAIL.

Let me see, in and around the year 2000 almost every Tech writer said .NET vs Java would never succeed and it would fail. WRONG.

Since the year 2000 I have heard that Linux and open source will be the death of BOTH Windows Server and Windows Desktop OS and therefore Microsoft. WRONG. Win Server has been growing year on year for past 3 years more than 30% and Linux share has gone backwards.

For past three to 5 years I have heard that Linux desktop distros would claw substantial marketshare from Windows. WRONG. Barely breaking 1% share.

I have heard bloggers and tech writers saying for the past 2 years that the iPhone will be the death of WinMo. WRONG. When Microsoft makes announcement soon about PINK, naysayers will crawl back into their holes.

We heard the same around Xbox. Microsoft got it right and was the only one to build in social networking to differentiate and set it up as a major global social network. And guess what? 59% of them pay and Facebook and Myspace are still trying to find a business model.

We heard everyone laugh at Bill Gates and Microsoft about a computer in every home and the convergence of the home TV, PC and gaming console. Xbox Live has streamed 13m videos through Netflix via Xbox. Xbox game attach rate is best in business.

Zune has 8-11% market share in USA but everyone has written if off. Marketplace is way better than iTunes. Zune HD will once again change the market and when Zune / Marketplace, Xbox Live and mobile come together with Live, let’s have this conversation again.

We have heard that Google Docs, Wave and Gears will be the death of Windows, Office and the ‘revolution’ of cloud computing will remove the necessity for client software and be the death of Microsoft. WRONG. Microsoft has got it right with their strategy of Software + Services and not just services in the cloud. Once Azure comes online and Office 2010 for Web we will still see it trounce Google Gears and Google Docs. I am using Microsoft Online Services (cloud services in combination with client software and I pay small monthly fee for Enterprise capability).

I can go on and on and on and on…..

I agree that it is a little unsettling at times w/ the power that Google holds, but the difference between the antitrust issues w/ Microsoft and Google is that Microsoft was essentially forcing people to use it. With Google, people are CHOOSING to use it over, say Ask Jeeves…because well Google is the utilitarian of search engines.

The way I see it, I love to support mom and pop restaurants, etc. because their food is good and I’d like to keep them in business. I don’t want to support the underdog search engine because say I type in “large kitchen pantry” (I happen to be looking for one now) and it pulls results for refrigerators and dog beds, well I’m just not going to use it, so I choose Google…It’s a bit of a situation because as consumers of search engines, we personally want the best for ourselves, and in doing so assist in the creation of this large empire.

Good comments…it’s interesting to hear both sides because there are definitely valid points both ways.

[...] more from the original source: CrunchGear chrome, headline, nike, [...]

I kind of share your point, the net is also crap here in Barcelona (comparing it to what I was used to back in Bucharest, Romania).

If Google OS is the trend than it’s obvious that infrastructure investment and uptime is becoming a necessity that we should really focus on.

Surely, on one hand there are children living in below-par conditions in Africa – think OLPC – they don’t have constant electricity not to mention hm, our “technology” [but this will change, slowly]. On the other hand there’s people like the Techcrunch community or myself, totally immersed into the advent of it all (sometimes I do forget the realness of the world out there – go out, hug a tree!).

From a business point of view, indeed, Google is just changing the battlefield and the market will decide if this adjustment was, you know, just. Technically, I’m sure it’s feasible. Will people give up their current computer usage habits for it? Who’s to argue – the market will tell as I’ve said.

To sum up, it sounds a bit scary and exciting in the same time. Scary because of the shock of this abrupt change but exciting ’cause I can see the possibilities and I see myself liking it (I couldn’t speak for technically-challenged people, though, but I’m guessing that the trend is to no longer be computer illiterate – even if many people still are nowadays).

um….remind me. What’s privacy again? Most 25 yr olds and under haven’t a clue. In 20 years, that’ll be ‘most 45 yr olds don’t have a clue’. If you’d be 45 and without a clue, I’d be afraid for you, very afraid.

…although I prefer the ‘deer in the headlights’ look. It’s very fashionable this last decade or two. I do propose, however, that the animal be replaced by a sheep.

Baaa

Right.. trust the cloud.. trust Google.. ppl must be out of there minds! http://iqmz.com/9y7sdk I’m with you Google OS? Meh!!

[...] that works on a broad range of PCs in numerous complex organizational settings. Other commentary: Redefining the OS: “The new OS will focus entirely on the web: “The software architecture is simple — Google [...]

the big question for Michael Arrington is: will CrunchPad run ChromeOS

Chrome as OS, hmmmm. Its fun to watch the reinvention of the wheel. As I came in at the DOS 1.0 level things have changed a little bit.

It seems to me the big push on the web is to get the desktop and the cloud married up. Does it matter where your app is located? In the “Old Days” people actually wondered which drive light came on when they ran a program via the network. We asked, “Does it matter?” The same thing applies to the cloud. In my opinion what does matter is where your data resides. I really don’t want someone in “East Jabip” supposedly caring for my data/documents. Also one might consider whether you want your system to be down because a drunk hits a pole down the street. “Gee, with my internet connection could that happen?”

Eventually we’ll all be using the cloud and we’ll have a brand new set of problems that look suspiciously like the old ones all dressed up!

Oh great…now we’ll be talking about ‘This is the year of the Google OS’ each year for the next 10 years just like we do with Linux.

Google Chrome OS is an Obvious Response to Bing…

Bing has been gaining share in the search market for Microsoft.  So what does Google do?  Announce a full frontal assault on the Microsoft OS dominion, of course.  Never mind that it is a totally uninspired sort of response with no details about any…

Scoble, this is Chris (that sued Microsoft). You should sell your RAX shares right now, and buy back at a lower price.

OK, with that out of the way, there is no way Mike or the people that work on Crunch pad can answer you because they have not used Google Chrome OS yet.

But you knew that before you asked. So why did you ask?

didn’t the gov’t like say that you can’t force the user to have a browser in your o/s… e.g., windows and ie.

and that you can’t force search defaults for a browser.

so will chrome o/s allow other browsers to run on top of it, and other search defaults than google?

most tech people are myopic. don’t get any single detail wrong or you’ll lose them forever.

Wow… M2CDO… how much does MS pay you to troll forums?

I’m not looking for a flame war, so I’ll back off the inflammatory commenting, right after I point out that you went ‘on and on and on’ so much that you forgot what you wrote.

“I own an iPhone…iPhone will be the death of WinMo… announcement of Pink (whatever the hell that is) naysayers will crawl back into their holes.”

So you admit you do live in a hole.

Inflammatory commenting over, I would just like to request that maybe you could provide some links to support the various statistics that you’ve thrown out. For example, the link that I provided clearly states that Apache continually sees an increase in web server market share, while IIS is losing substantial share due to the closing down of MS’ own online services.

No support = astro-turfing.

Yes, this all will be true when it will be available! How many online games you have now? How about video editing? There is still a long way to go but the future might be interesting…

Photoshop
Reason
Dreamweaver
Premiere
Illustrator
Cubase
Office
Etc.

^ Work tools. I prefer my local CPU to work for me instead of some remote server that takes forever. That’s a step backward. Oh, and you wait til there’s 6 hours of downtime when using your cloud app……then what?

It’s funny hearing people say radical things like “no way”, “never ever”, “impossible”. 1981 Bill believed 640kb memory would be enough for everybody.
It’s obvious that the applications and data moves gradually from your pc to web. Whether it will be chrome or not, the normal end-users and operation systems will conform to this trend..

Ok… So there are a whole bunch of productivity apps available on the Web that let you work offline. However, what about the rest of the apps in the world. Who’s writing apps for the new OS? And, if the Internet is everything, as mentioned in this article, what use is my computer when the intenet is down?

I don’t know about everyone else, but I spend a whole bunch of my time NOT using the internet when I’m on my computer.

Well this could certainly be interesting, but the fact that Gmail was in beta for more than 5 years (which is a pretty basic piece of software).

I’d hate to see how long their OS will be in beta. :)

[...] Read the original:  Google Chrome: Redefining The Operating System [...]

No, if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would realize that you are not screwed. Google Chrome already allows you to select Gmail from the start menu, and run it with zero internet connection. I use it all the time on my laptop when I am in airports with overpriced WiFI. It works like Outlook, but without all the bloat, right in my browser. They can do this with spreadsheets, docs, anything. If morons like you would actually research the technology, you would understand this. It’s like some guy yelling in 1978 : “How is my terminal going to work if its in my house and there is no mainframe there? I’m screwed!”

Microsoft would ruin themselves trying to simultaneously build a “regular OS” and a web OS. They’d just be competing against themselves. There’s no practical difference between the two– I think that’s the point Google’s trying to make. So Microsoft just need to make Windows better.

Any guesses what language will the new OS be written in?

Have tabs now replaced windows?

Just wondering how this should work offline. You can´t connect Zoho or use your pc for everything else. It would be a windows killer running alone. But If you have 2 os. One regular – for everything (Windows) and your Online OS … it would remind to netvibes. btw – does microsoft not see this step coming and can´t they invest a billion to finally prepare an online OS on monthly payable basis.

yes, there is skype for linux, I use one with Ubuntu

The OS battle. The battle of the Desktop. The Office Products battle. The Browser battle.

Everything dollar (or eyeball) that is spent on Microsoft is a dollar (or eyeball) not spent on Google. And Google is losing in every battle that Microsoft is winning in.

In some, they are losing by not showing up for the battle. It’s a forfeit.

Well now they picked their own battlefield. And if they can win on their battlefield, they may also render the old battle meaningless. Sure, you want to have a monopoly selling buggy-whips? it’s all yours.

I think you are quite off in that statement – a lot of square miles of the USA do not have net coverage, and given things like bandwidth caps – this is a really bad idea for the average person.

We’re just glad that your one-handed typing is due to back-patting and not porn-viewing.

Oh…that’s funny!

Yes, because I’m sure the people who built the best search engine in the world, built applications that let you zoom in and count how many potholes are in your driveway, and designed a suite of applications that work in the browser whether you are online or offline couldn’t figure out how to do things that the Linux kernel already does.
I’m going to do you a favor and reserve total judgement on your intellectual capabilities, especially since the phrase “I’ll be sticking with windows” saves me the time.

Chrome OS will replace the dream of the perfectly simple and secure OS with … the messy complexity of reality. Good for MS. Instead of being compared with a sweet dream Windows 7 will be compared with the full of bugs early versions of a new OS.

I think it is great. I don’t care what the system does but if it forces MS to loosen the grip they have on the OS market I am for it. Competition will make for better systems.

It is a shame we won’t see a decent rationale story like this one from ZDnet on TechCrucnh about the Google hyperbole – http://blogs.zdnet.com/Howlett/?p=1065

Hurray for you.

I would say Chrome OS is a competitor to Adobe Air. Chrome OS will have something similar to Mozilla’s Prism labs project. You can write any Adobe Air app with HTML 5 + Gears + AJAX and it would be standard compliant and run cross platform. The general web has already caught up with everything that Adobe Air can do and instead of being a virtual machine on a slow OS, Chrome OS will be the native platform, making it faster.

Will Adobe Air run on Chrome OS? probably not, because it doesn’t need to.

“I can go on and on and on and on…..”

Please don’t. Go back to listening to your broken down zune and yelling FAIL at your AOL buddies.

Way to go, Arrington!
You were only 4 years too late:
http://kottke.org/04/04/google-operating-system

I still don’t see what’s wrong with the statement from the guy from TheRegister.

Also just because google did it does not make it correct. Its an awful idea IMO. Netbooks are dying breed and desktops are moving towards touch. WTF is google doing launching an OS for netbooks whether its browser based completely or not does not matter. You need multi touch to make this work.

More over they have Android.

c’mon people. Privacy is dead, and has been for years. Every time you IM someone, e-mail, put a pic on Facebook/MySpace/LinkedIn/Loopt/Flickr, every video you watch on YouTube, or Google/Yahoo search you do is logged on a server somewhere. It can be accessed by anyone who knows how to do it, and we’re not talking hackers, we’re talking regular people with a search engine. Browser history is out there, financial history is out there. Credit history is out there. If you want privacy, don’t use a computer. Or a cell phone. Or leave your house.]]>

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Games, Software Development, Audio/Video. We like our desktop apps!

The author cracked me up with the conclusion on monopoly. Microsoft definitely will use that strategy (OS+Browser) on Google since it’s such a powerful analogy.

[...] coolest, and biggest project yet. To keep up with the tough competition (Microsoft), Google is now entering the operating system field. Google Chrome Operating System is the newest idea in the [...]

You already can work offline with Gmail, Docs and Reader.

I am appalled to see the hate against MSFT. I am also shocked to see the image posted in this article by Mike. This is just disseminating hate. I mean its good to write which brings some competition to MSFT but the article here gives an indication that how desperatly the author wants MSFT to be killed.
When Bing came out, you did praise about MSFT giving some competition to Google but never did you write such a hate filled comment against Google. So I really want some consistency.

You already can place icons on the desktop in Chrome – and they work like applications and work great. I do this for Gmail and Reader already.

“The Chrome browser now has 30 million active users, says Google, and tracking services say it has 6% or so market share. Not bad for a browser that’s less than a year old.”

If 30 million users is 6% share, then Firefox, with 300 million users is at about 60% share?

No. It’s not. And Chrome’s at about 2% share, not 6%.

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Can’t wait for the launch of this OS to see how Microsoft reacts!

IE has always stunk before – and doesn’t seem to be getting much better.

The UI? KDE4.2 has one of the best UIs I’ve seen.

Privacy? What are you trying to hide?

I gave up on privacy a while ago because I realized that it wasn’t providing me with any benefits. Security is a different matter, and should not be confused with privacy.

The more transparent society is, the better and healthier it will be. We just have to get through the adjustment period. Transparency is not just top down, Big Brother style. It goes both ways.

Step back and understand what is going on. This Chrome OS news is noise. Its a means to push google’s HTML 5 dreams, as is Android. That’s all. Google is pushing free OS’s to try wrestle control of computing gatekeeper away from Microsoft. In other words, Google is trying to make you their bitch, instead of Microsoft’s.

But but but you’re wrong! The Internet Guys! Google Chrome is going to revolutionize it! INTERNET!

“Don’t worry about those desktop apps you think you need. Office? Meh. You’ve got Zoho and Google Apps. You won’t miss office. Chrome plus Gears plus Google Wave plus HTML 5 and web platforms like Flash and Silverlight all combine into a single wonderful computing device. ”

Oh, but if Adobe AIR doesn’t work…

Why isn’t anyone asking how these systems are going to support input devices? (digitial cameras, camcorders, etc).

Isn’t posting pics to Facebook, Twitter (via Twitpic), and Myspace all the rage with the kids these days? Or is Google just going to expect every input device to look like a removable drive and call it a day?

It will be interesting to see how they address this.

Here is a cartoon that was done, I presume, to effect a humorous play on how Google Chrome got its logo, but today, it has added significance:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wq7yJpCIJXA/SlTLLCSO4XI/AAAAA23

Looking forward to Google Chrome OS as another alternative to Windows, but unfortunately that’s not going to do anything about the fact that Time Warner Cable and Verizon DSL have a duopoly on Internet access in my neighborhood. If Google rolls out a WiMax service (or whatever it’s called) with the OS, then we’ll see some definite traction. iPhone tethering just ain’t that speedy, and I don’t trust AT&T not to try to screw us.

Can someone explain how programs similar to Photoshop and Unreal Tournament could ever run in a browser-based OS?

I don’t see Google Spreadsheets (or anything) replacing Microsoft Excel for power users in the near-term, or possibly even the long-term. That’s their one untouchable product. Not much of a parade there though..

This would’ve gone very well with the CrunchPad.

Wow, all these comments and not one mention of Nazis. What a great crowd.

I don’t see the big advantage of ChromeOS over Ubuntu for instance.

It was tough getting past that first sentence.

I think of another statistic. What percent of people use their computers just for the internet?

I think of my parents who just use their internet to getting their news, doing email, managing their bank account and watching videos. They don’t use Office or Google Docs.

They’re also part of the demographic that would prefer a much cheaper alternative to Windows.

after reading this nuclear bomb news press I checked on GOOG stock and it is only up 1%..nothing unusual here…business as usual going on for GOOG.

I remember people claiming that google docs and staroffice will eat away at MSFT’s lucrative office business but actually the office suites have seen an increase in sales at MSFT since google docs and staroffice came out.

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Hmmm… I assume it will be HTML5. The interesting question is whether it can run Flash/Flex, Silverlight, and JavaFX on it. Last and not the least is whether it can run applications built on Adobe AIR.

This seems groundbreaking – but maybe chromeOS will not replace desktops for a few years. I will still need a machine to create some graphics. For everything else, a netbook will do.

They should port the chromeOS to more devices, though. maybe as an alternative to Android for phones and in embedded devices, from car GPS to refrigerators (Larry Page’s refrigerator dream come true)

TC follows a CPM model. So clicks mean nuffin at all

Goodbye Windows. Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.

I’m all for open standards and can’t wait for HTML5 and CSS3. However, Silverlight is platform agnostic. Just like other vendor-proprietary technologies — Flash and Gears. Granted, Microsoft’s software is far from perfect but I don’t see the merit in putting down Microsoft in the name of open standards while supporting Adobe, Apple, or Google.

you will probably still need a PC to use photoshop (Remember, google is targetting the netbook market mostly – i doubt you will see workstation pcs running chromeOS)

Do you still use your PC for games? most people use consoles; people can afford to have both today.

geezus.

[...] to my point about it being bigger that it initially appears.  For example, Michael Arrington’s post on TechCrunch misses the mark.  He states that “The browser is the platform.  The browser is the [...]

Won’t be long now:

http://aviary.com/tools/phoenix

Google introduced a browswer and got no share.

Google introduced a phone OS and got no share.

Google will introduce a PC OS and will get no share.

Stick to what you are good at (and keep improving it…I’ve switched to bing because the results are better…c’mon google, make me switch bact_content>

No shit, Sherlock.

You really are quite the strategist.

Don´t forget the Google Native Client !
Google Chrome OS will consist of the OS + Google Chrome with the Google Native Client + Gears + Wave and all the other Google Web Apps.
The Native Client does also work on MacOSX, Linux and Windows and connects the browser with the underlying OS and the Hardware (for example it can use graphic accelleration)

Love it – Bring it on Google!

Hey dude! Learn about Google Gears and HTML 5 Offline.

I think Chrome OS is an ongoing project and will have many more surprises in the near future for us all. They must have armies of engineers up at Google and not all are working on their 20% time projects….

Werd

phrase of the day: “operating systemness” :)

“Don’t worry about those desktop apps you think you need. Office? Meh. You’ve got Zoho and Google Apps. You won’t miss office. Chrome plus Gears plus Google Wave plus HTML 5 and web platforms like Flash and Silverlight all combine into a single wonderful computing device. The Internet Is Everything. All the OS has to do is boot the damn computer, get me to a browser as fast as possible and then stay the hell out of the way.”

So what happens when you have no internet; you just get a blank screen

The Google Native Client would allow to do even things like video editing within Google Chrome. It is possible to play games using graphic accelleration within the browser:
http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/


The Native Client does also work on MacOSX, Linux and Windows and connects the browser with the underlying OS and the Hardware.

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Michael, setting aside your hypishness, you literally don’t know what an OS is but you blog about it anyway.

The nature of any popular open source software (particularly an OS) is that fragmentation is inevitable, whether you consider it to be a positive or not. So if ChromeOS “wins,” it will win under half a dozen brand names offered by as many companies or organizations, each with their own personalized flavor of the OS best suited to their users’ individual needs.

Of course, Google doesn’t care about this. They aren’t entering the OS business to make money or even to seek a monopoly – their primary goal is to act as a particularly effective competitor to the market’s status quo, forcing the market’s existing participants to improve their support for rich web apps at an accelerated pace.

At last the reign of the evil empire is coming to an end

“The nature of any popular open source software (particularly an OS) is that fragmentation is inevitable.”

This isn’t necessarily true. Fragmentation has been observed in many major projects, it is true, but many – the majority, I think – have either no fragmentation or a single overwhelmingly popular branch. Having a corporation guide development and actively encourage adoption of a particular implementation tends to maintain cohesion.

Your problem is your government. Not technology.

I program in visual studio, sql management studio and about 10 other apps, and for fun mess around in after effects and 3dsmax.. I also play games. Why the hell would I want an OS that is basically a browser? So I can play flash games and make a spreadsheet that lacks basic data features? This is utter crap.

We did our testing with privacy at AAfter Search. People seems to care not that much. People care for better search results.

No company has failed so far because they have a bad privacy statement. Am I wrong?

… not to mention the google native client:
http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/

I would like to know if Microsoft is going to respond. Obviously they knew about this OS several years ago when we were all up in the air about it.

[...] Chrome is WebKit-based as well. (I’m surprised Arrington didn’t mention this in his post, actually.) If I had to guess, I’d say Chrome OS is somewhere in between an entirely [...]

Please look at this:
http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/
http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/

George Carlin once pondered about people who catch bullets in their teeth. Specifically, he wondered how they would learn such a trick. He proposed that they would start with a friend just tossing a bullet toward them. Once they learned this step, the friend would put the bullet in a gun, take aim and say, “OK, this one is going to come a little faster.”
It doesn’t seem too difficult to put chrome on a netbook, and tell people it’s just for surfing the web. Netbooks are not really meant for large, powerful applications anyway. But going from a simple OS that lets you surf the web, to a fully functional OS, ready to run power programs, is a huge leap. While I would love to see a Chrome OS succeed, I hope their team knows that when they move from a simple web OS to a power-user OS, things will be coming at them “a little bit faster.”

Gaming is also possible, please look at this:
http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/
http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/

So I can dump Windows? Great!

Oh, wait. No, I still have to have Windows (or some other OS) to boot up Google Chrome. Right? I thought so.

Regardless of the technical definition of “OS,” the *real* definition is “what I have to have on my computer before I can run Chrome.” And for me, that’s Windows, whether I like it or not.

“It’s hard to type a blog post when one hand is being used to pat myself on the back.”

Haha. Mike, you are the man.

Michael, there is nothing great to pat on your back. TC just blogs anything and everything from twitter and google as the greatest things in the world. Just because it is google, just because it is from twitter, just because TC said so, the world will not turn upside down in a single day. Google is search. Google is AdSense. Thats all. TC preaching as if google chrome is a savior for OS, is too much. Did chrome turned the world ? Did google docs turned the world down? Did google maps turned the world down? Sure they are all great and useful. But there is no exciting pitch like what you say.

HaHaHa!!!! google is trying so hard now a days. But cant do much. Google is better just do search and improve it. Most of its latest product lines are just not creating that much buzz anywhere. Poor google. Mobile phones – Apple, Search – Bing, Real Time Data – Twitter, Online video – You Tube (originally it was not a google thing), Browser – FireFox, Online Docs – ZOHO and the list goes on. All these cases google became just a follower not a innovator. Come with something else original google.

Don’t people realize this “OS” won’t allow to run applications such as photo-edition or video-editing or publishing software such as Photoshop, Premiere, Illustrator, Indesign, etc…?

It will take another 20 years something else to take place of todays OS.

Best response I’ve read yet is out on techmeme, from zdnet australia. the guy is spot on.

http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/No-thanks-Google-we-ve-got-Ubuntu/0,139023769,339297306,00.htm

I have the same question. It doesn’t seem like the linux version will work because linux is not the platform. “For application developers, the web is the platform.”

I guess Skype will need to release a web-based app or if Google Voice will incorporate skypeout/skypein functionality it can replace Skype completely.

I don’t see Google Chrome OS as being a huge threat to Microsoft or Windows. They’re more than likely do much more damage to the various Linux distributions out there already.

More important, I think it’ll be a pretty sad world if all of the billions of dollars indivudals and businesses spend on powerful computing devices is usd to turn them into glorified dumb terminals. I love Web browsers. Very useful tools. But if the future of computing is limited to the Web browser with offline support then we might as well just go back to IBM mainframes. That’s a boring and depressing thought.

Long live the PC (and Mac) with real operating systems (despite their flaws) that take advantage of local processing power, storage, GPU’s etc.

based on my own observations and talking to people I find the following.

People are basically happy with google search, maps, doc, voice and gmail, you tube

no so happy with calenders and some other apps

people who “actually use” the following are also happy. sketch up, gphone, talk, chrome

people who can understand linux… most like it, love it, promote it even.

people like the xbox i guess.
but IE, Zune, Win95, 98, 2000, xp, vista, outlook. people have never been as thoroughly pleased with these products as with google stuff. sure Microsoft has some market share but that may have more to do with the cleverly timed antitrust tactics than flawless product.

If some one cared enough (or had google money) they could have used linux with firefox in kiosk more and really made something user friendly and cool. but they didn’t.

This move seem basic, simple and smart and it’s from a winning team. why vote against it?

Michael Arrington saw this coming because it is now as far fetched, out of reach and ridiculous as people are claiming. And he is not a hater, which clouds the mind.

I just figured they would get all their apps online then switch to a linux kernal

haha

“poor google”

haha again

flash supports that (and many webcams are supported in linux). If microsoft ports silverlight to linux they can have a go at the browser-only netbooks too.

I don’t undestand why people would just reject the idea or resist so hard to it. Things have changed people, isn’t the browser the only app you use 98% of your time now? (certainly mine is)

umm, don’t you want to wait till your browser has a higher than 2% adoption rate worldwide? Its a great idea but that doesn’t mean it will succeed (do i need to compile the list the great google idea = failed businesses?)

lmao. exactly. I’m surprised Google’s offline strategy is not more widely known

Yep.. it’s been obvious for some time now how things have been moving forward.. but the BIG news was still missing.. and this does it.

But don’t write off Microsoft so soon! Windows 7 has lots up its sleeve. And it CAN compete with the Chrome OS. What it can’t compete with is, perhaps, the FRESHNESS of Chrome OS.

Love the battle.

Mike you are dead on. Chrome OS is going to do to windows what Gmail has done to Outlook. It will still be around, but only for those people who refuse to change.

Here is my preview of what Chrome OS will look like:

http://bit.ly/KXe7J

Chrome OS, a better user experience… on Windows.

he shoots he scores!!

Its groundbreaking idea from Google web OS and they are planning to wipe out Windows in a most strategic manner. Google clearly pointing to Microsoft when they say “The operating systems that browsers run were designed in an era where there was no web”. But there are few questions which are unanswered like what will happen when we will go offline in Chrome OS? Can we use offline applications like iTunes or Photoshop? Can we run third party applications? How they are going to make profit from it ? I am also bit concerned whether Chrome OS will be embraced by enterprises as it is open source and web based as there is always a security issue….Just wait another thought can Chrome OS will become a global hit especially in small countries where internet is very fickle. But leaving these things aside its going to be win-win situation for the users and it will be interesting to witness the war between giants.

Oh my! This goes down right around the same time the “white space” capable devices were said to be available. Very interesting.

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I don’t care what they say about you, Arrington, sometimes you do know what you’re talking about.

This is right on the money. Google Chrome OS is going to spell a slow end to Windows. Chrome OS will do to Windows what Gmail is to Outlook… the only people who won’t switch will never get it.

I actually just cut a video about this called “What Google Chrome OS will look like…”

[...] or so. We’re just wondering what Microsoft thinks of all this? Maybe this brings some relief? Michael Arrington summed it up best when he said “Every Chrome computer bought won’t have Windows and [...]

[...] Google ChromeOS makes little or no sense. As an example of the more extreme things written today, check this from Michael Arrington, founder and co-editor of TechCrunch: Don’t worry about those desktop apps you think you need. Office? Meh. You’ve got Zoho and [...]

[...] Google Chrome: Redefining The Operating System (tags: chromeos) [...]

[...] Chrome is WebKit based as well. (I’m surprised Arrington didn’t mention this in his post, actually.) If I had to guess, I’d say Chrome OS is somewhere in between an entirely [...]

Ok, people. Employ a little critical thinking here, please. Let’s make one thing abundantly clear – a browser is not and never will be considered to be an operating system. Period. If you don’t know what an OS is, for the love of god, please look it up in the dictionary! Or just … Google it!

If you actually read what Google said in their announcement, it would be clear what Chrome OS will be – a very light-weight Linux-based OS that will be stripped of as much “legacy” OS baggage as possible. Basically the only application that will be “bundled” with the OS install is the Chrome browser.

Ok, people. Employ a little critical thinking here, please. Let’s make one thing abundantly clear – a browser is not and never will be considered to be an operating system. Period. If you don’t know what an OS is, for the love of god, please look it up in the dictionary! Or just … Google it!

If you actually read what Google said in their announcement, it would be clear what Chrome OS will be – a very light-weight Linux-based OS that will be stripped of as much “legacy” OS baggage as possible. Basically the only application that will be “bundled” with the OS install is the Chrome browser.

[...] Chrome is burgasweb.comKit-based as well. (I’m surprised Arrington didn’t mention this in his post, actually.) If I had to guess, I’d say Chrome OS is somewhere in between an entirely [...]

[...] Chrome is WebKit-based as well. (I’m surprised Arrington didn’t mention this in his post, actually.) If I had to guess, I’d say Chrome OS is somewhere in between an entirely [...]

[...] is everywhere about Google’s new desktop operating system.  About the best headline I’ve seen [...]

[...] success considering that it has yet to celebrate its first birthday. Mike Arrington at TechCrunch claims that the browser now has 30 million users (citing Google as a source). Market share figures vary [...]

[...] guys. This isn’t going to just be Linux with a browser bolted on. It will be (or should be) a compelling user experience with super fast boot and web surfing times. [...]

ah la facebook: “Likes this”

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actually OpenID is taking care of universal login type stuff as we speak and Google Chrome already has a “Create Application Shortcut” function that lets you create a desktop icon for your webapp. So essentially all that technology already exists, they just need to bundle it.

@M2CDO and @Jarrod, well done on completely missing the point – the clue, in case you’re wondering, was that Barry had the link to Google Gears right there in his post.

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“Zune has 8-11% market share in USA but everyone has written if off.”

In other news…

“The Wall Street Journal predicts that “at its much faster rate of decline, the Zune player looks like it’s headed from low to no market share”.
http://tr.im/rtBL

[...] Google Chrome: Redefining The Operating System [...]

“I have heard bloggers and tech writers saying for the past 2 years that the iPhone will be the death of WinMo. WRONG. When Microsoft makes announcement soon about PINK, naysayers will crawl back into their holes.”

Firstly, when do articles even bother mentioning MIcrosoft’s pitiful efforts when talking about the iPhone. It’s compared to Android, the Pre, Symbian, Blackberry etc. But Microsoft’s pokey little devices which try to shoehorn a Start Menu etc instead of just designing devices which are best for purpose. And now they may be trying to copy from Apple (yet again, no change there as usual) you think Microsoft should be praised for this? Billions of dollars floating around and they can’t innovate to save their lives.

Microsoft start your photocopiers.

“Did I say anything around the iPhone? I own one moron so your comment = FAIL.”

I do have one question though. Why are Microsoft employing an overexcited teenager to handle their PR?

Let’s all take a deep breath and get some perspective. This evaluation is about right. http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2009/07/lets-all-take-deep-breath-and-get-some.html

What a bunch a trash, all this cloud business. Just put your info into the “cloud”, trust the “cloud”. Nobody stops to think that we are just being led along like a herd of sheep. Rich stay rich because they “allow” us to have the computer.. if they forced us we would be suspicious. Computers were not meant to last for the public, they will be phased out with the chip. Read up: http://laukev7.blogspot.com/2007/03/lost-toronto-star-article.html

The Italian government, you mean? I’m an expat working in China

Well, no because Adobe AIR has file system access and doesn’t require an internet connection. Say you want to edit a 2GB video file. Are you going to upload it to a service on the web and edit it there? That’s going to take a while. If AJAX can already do everything that Flash/Flex/AIR can do, why are people still writing RIAs in Flash/Flex/AIR? The answer is that it can’t and for those trivial things that it can do, it takes twice as long to develop it in Javascript.

[...] The other focus is on speed, which is why Google is working so closely with the chip guys. This isn’t going to just be Linux with a browser bolted on. It will be (or should be) a compelling user experience with super fast boot and web surfing times. [...]

[...] with Michael Arrington of TechCrunch: The Internet Is Everything. All the OS has to do is boot the damn computer, get me to a browser as [...]

They haven’t even entered the OS/desktop battle yet (not even in Beta!) and you say they are losing. I think they’re just starting the Office products battle and the Chrome OS is going to help with that. In the browser battle, they’ve gone from 0 to 6% in one year (in the same time that IE has lost >10% of market share). I’d say that’s a win. Microsoft should be very worried if the Chrome OS takes off because they are targetting both their Windows and Office cash-cows in the same move.

[...] The other focus is on speed, which is why Google is working so closely with the chip guys. This isn’t going to just be Linux with a browser bolted on. It will be (or should be) a compelling user experience with super fast boot and web surfing times. [...]

“miami is not exactly a third world country.”

As a resident of Palm Beach County, I’d have to disagree.

One wonders if Arrington is even capable of reporting anything without sounding like a complete tool.

Well said. And since Steven above is “sticking with windows”, we all know where he can stick it.

[...] instead of breathlessly praising it or dismissing it completely, let’s just… watch and wait. Tweet [...]

[...] instead of breathlessly praising it or dismissing it completely, let’s just… watch and [...]

Yay, so now when my DSL dies every 20 minutes I lose access to everything, and when it dies for several hours and I can’t do my college homework I flunk.

Do not want?

[...] instead of breathlessly praising it or dismissing it completely, let’s just… watch and [...]

[...] Google Chrome: Redefining The Operating System It’s hard to type a blog post when one hand is being used to pat myself on the back. [...]

[...] Sumber : TechCrunch [...]

[...] What The Google Chrome OS Actually Is, In A Nutshell – Michael Arrington: Purists complained that a browser isn’t actually an operating system, and brought up mundane issues about hardware drivers, memory and processor management, and other red herrings. Sure, they were right – the Chrome browser isn’t an operating system. It is, you could say, sans the bag of drivers needed to meet the definition. Still, the writing was on the wall – Google quite clearly saw Chrome as an operating system that competes with Windows. [...]

Privacy is overrated. People who worry so much about privacy read too much dystopian science-fiction or live under a dictatorship.

hm… privacy never dies, it is a threat indeed

http://blog.neraliu.com/2009/07/09/google-chrome-operating-system-a-new-threat-to-security/

Please put your hatred of Microsoft away for two minutes and look at things clearly before you comment.

It is also hard to think while writing blog post if you have one hand in you pants.

Yes,

I can’t wait to upload all my business data onto the Google cloud and have all my employees watch ads all day long so that I can save $499 per employee.

Nothing is Free.

This was the worst thing Google could do. It will provide legal cover for Microsoft to now completely destroy Google.

A ruthless business empire vs. a bunch of inexperience PHD students…LOL.

Went Short GOOG and long MSFT today.

A newer Techcrunch article by Michael Michael Arrington said ChromeOS partners include Adobe. That might mean Flash/Flex (and possibly Air runtime) is in.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/08/chrome-partners-acer-adobe-asus-freescale-hewlett-packard-lenovo-qualcomm-texas-instruments/

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But where the fuck does this 6% of market come from ?

Asa from Mozilla has it at 2%, which is 3 times less, that a very large difference :
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/05/longterm_browse.html

And seriously I see chrome nowhere at 6%, nobody except a few geek is using it.

Uh, so when you wrote “OS” you really meant to write “middleware”?

Fat-necked ignorance is not a virtue.

Love to use Google OS. When is its official launch??

MS launches Bing; Goog can claim it doesn’t have a monopoly on search.
Goog launches Chrome OS; MS can claim it doesn’t have a monopoly on OS.
What if Goog and MS were good friends who benefit from the rest of the world thinking they’re locked in combat?

Now _that_ would be the perfect crunchpad os..

So let me get this straight, Zune has more market share in the MP3 market than Apple Mac OSx has in the desktop market and Zune is a failure and Mac OSx is a success?

Google Docs has around 0.5% (NPR) and Office has 97% of productivity apps and Google Docs is called by people like Dave and Arrington a huge success!

Wow, no wonder people like Dave should be committed, their logic is flawless……..

Lovely..

The past was classic.. Right from the start to the end.

And with internet speed nearing the speed of accessing a folder in a low RAM windows machine or Mac , noone would miss a thing..

but it seems Microsoft actually did pay attention, but guess what they did: they broke the Javascript behaviors first introduced in 5.0 and replaced them with their better, new, more complicated behavior model, no one considered using anyway. Essentially, they end up killing MyWebOS and no attempt has been made rebuilding until the Google time.i just found this amazing website, it has all kind of <a title=”http://www.citidirect.co.uk/” from acleaning companies to estate agents to banks…

Yep, you seem to be the only one here who gets how big this is!

Cheers,
Nick.

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[...] Google Chrome: Redefining The Operating System [...]

[...] Interwebs are abuzz today with the news of the fancy Google operating system, but I’m here to tell you that it’s dead in the water. Like the Palm Pre, and the [...]

[...] are so excited that Michael Arrington is masturbating over himself: It’s hard to type a blog post when one hand is being used to pat myself on the back.Last year I [...]

[...] Interwebs are abuzz today with the news of the fancy Google operating system, but I’m here to tell you that it’s dead in the water. Like the Palm Pre, and the [...]

[...] instead of breathlessly praising it or dismissing it completely, let’s just… watch and [...]

[...] Chrome is WebKit-based as well. (I’m surprised Arrington didn’t mention this in his post, actually.) If I had to guess, I’d say Chrome OS is somewhere in between an entirely [...]

[...] Chrome is WebKit-based as well. (I’m surprised Arrington didn’t mention this in his post, actually.) If I had to guess, I’d say Chrome OS is somewhere in between an entirely [...]

[...] Chrome is WebKit-based as well. (I’m surprised Arrington didn’t mention this in his post, actually.) If I had to guess, I’d say Chrome OS is somewhere in between an entirely [...]

[...] those desktop apps you think you need. Office? Meh. You’ve got Zoho and Google Apps,” he writes. “You won’t miss [...]

[...] qualifies this as an Operating System, for which I will direct you to two excellent articles by TechCrunch and The Register (Caution: colorful language), there is also the question of what the product [...]

I think this will be usefull if it is just a browser and they don’t try to make it anything more. It can be quick and good on the battery. and if you ever actually need to run a regular program just set your computer to dual boot your OS of choice (Windows, OSX, Linux)

[...] an application itself. While I am not sure that it will be such a success as Micheal Arrington claims it will be (John Biggs elaborates on why), I do believe that this is a move towards the [...]

Funny you mention Silverlight, since that is a Microsoft technology not available on Linux. (Yeah, there’s Moonlight but that’s not so great now.) How’s the user going to accept this “cloud operating system” when they can’t even stream Netflix films?

Next, calling Linux a “bag of drivers” is laughable. You acquit yourself very badly in response to the Register and make yourself look even worse when you talk about plugging a bunch of drivers into a browser and having an OS that runs on bare hardware. Let’s see, we need a bootloader, DRIVERS, memory manager, scheduler, filesystem, network stack, and APIs to tie them all together, and that’s just off the top of my head. Chrome is small in comparison.

[...] Google Chrome: Redefining The Operating System [...]

TC folks need a vacation referesher. They are in this illusion that whatever Google does is killer.

TC made big sensational headlines when Android came and when Google Wave arrived.

Where is Google Wave?Tell me, where is Android? Did it kill facebook? If I sue TC and win a dollar for every wrong prediction TC made, I will be a billionaire soon.
Wake up.Don’t be too dramatic and confuse the kids who frequent here trying to learn the stuff.

[...] really can’t wait for gOS to come out. Really. From TechCrunch, Google Chrome: Redefining The Operating System: The new OS will focus entirely on the web: “The software architecture is simple — Google [...]

Plain silly and dumb, if you ask me.
Its just another version of linux stripped down and limited to slow browser (yes, browsers ARE slow… do I need to tell that for instance Win7 utilizes hardware acceleration for drawing windows, and rendering text – part of DirectX called DirectWrite? Not to mention that you won’t be able to write programs in native languages…

Does anyone imagine how much-much slower javascript is comparing it to native assembler???

What about ALL the programs? Linux has thousands of programs and still unable to beat Windows. Why? Because of software! Games! Yes, games!
Huge part of Windows popularity is due to games!

Chrome OS to compete with Windows? ROFL! It won’t even compete with MacOS… Hell! wp:comment_content>

Atarti got into the desktop OS and pc business- look how far it took them. Let Google spread itself out, and in addition to getting owned by Apple in the phone business, it can get owned by Microsoft in the OS business.

Win 7 is the real deal and Google + Google Apps isn’t going to compare.

[...] those desktop apps you think you need. Office? Meh. You’ve got Zoho and Google Apps,” he writes. “You won’t miss [...]

[...] The Internet Is Everything. : http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/08/google-chrome-redefining-the-operating-system/ [...]

[...] Google Chrome: Redefining The Operating System It’s hard to type a blog post when one hand is being used to pat myself on the back. (tags: google computer technology microsoft chrome os GOOG web3 chromeos google_chrome) [...]

once the author of the article called Linux kernel a ‘bag of ol drivers’ – he lost any credibility he was tentatitively holding on to.

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Robert Scoble is wrong here and Michael Arrington is being a nitwit as well. What we are describing is an OS with a web browser here not a full fledged OS. Please stop the ignorance people.

+1

Anyone remember the big internet upgrade that the big folks in infrastructure were talking about?
Then we don’t need no Windows OS.
But of all the things, the disdain and the contempt ih this article… “HAH! SCROO M$!!”
*That* was the best :)

Not to sound trite but last I checked computers were used for quite a bit more than blogging and reading email.

Full blown OS for internet cafe’s and college students? Sure. There’s a whole lot beyond that however, wherein “Google Linux” will face the same time honored obstacles normal Linux has faced when it comes to the Desktop.

I can definitely wait for the new Google OS. I got out of Windows once. Became a full-time Linux user. And went back. Because of the software I needed for work.

We have enough operating systems already. And software bugs are plentiful enough with companies trying to port all their software to *NIX, *doze and *tosh. Add *oogle to the mix, and you’ve got more thinned out talent pools in the programming world, trying to write with each other, while they fight over whose computer has the best OS.

What Google should invent is a button people can push, that slows down Google when they (read: I) get sick of Google being the new Microsoft and trying to put everyone else out of business. I need that much more than I need a new OS.

[...] those desktop apps you think you need. Office? Meh. You’ve got Zoho and Google Apps,” he writes. “You won’t miss [...]

[...] introduces Google Chrome OS; # Google Chrome: Redefining The Operating System; # Google Drops A Nuclear Bomb On Microsoft. And It’s Made of Chrome. # Google Operating [...]

Unless its really really simple, I don’t see my hardware guy setting up my PC with the Google Chrome OS, setting up my internet connection, configuring my network. These guys have been taking Windows courses over the years! Maybe in time….

[...] overall strategy in making a new OS. And if such a strategy will actually work. We tend to think it will, and that belief got a huge boost in the arm today as Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has finally come [...]

[...] overall strategy in making a new OS. And if such a strategy will actually work. We tend to think it will, and that belief got a huge boost in the arm today as Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has finally come [...]

I agree with peter. I think google might take it on the netbooks, but it’ll probably stop there. And what with the suggestion that this simply takes the heat off search engine competition…

[...] Techrunch brings up an interesting point. Does bundling a browser into an operating system bring up anti-competitive issues? Probably not when the OS is open and free. [...]

I thought the whole point of stuff like Chrome OS was to move away from the underlying OS stuff and interact mainly with the browser! Exposing too much of the core system API within the browser sounds like too much of a vulnerability for me, and it would have to be handled VERY carefully to avoid a repeat of the ActiveX/older IE/svchost mess…

This is an interesting step for Google to take. I don’t use the Chrome browser either – I prefer Firefox and its multiple customizations – and it would take some time for me to be convinced to move to an entirely different operating system.

However, I think Google are on the right track here. Despite the need for powerful programs on desktop systems, computer use is becoming more and more portable, and the bulk of that use is web-based. We’re transitioning to a paradigm where most people are connected to the Internet most of the time – it makes sense that we’d move to a decentralized platform for our computing. I don’t know how long it will take, but it seems almost inevitable at this point.

My concerns about this move are largely social – on a local level, how will it affect interpersonal relations as more and more of us are technologically, but not necessarily physically or geographically, connected on a 24-hour basis? How will this affect the already-huge disparities in culture and economic status between regions that are technologically advanced and those that are not?

The issue I have, is that you won’t be able to use your computer when you dont have wireless or wired internet. I like being able to just get on with writing assignments without the internet there to distract me. If google is going to make an OS it HAS to be available for users without an internet connection, otherwise I don’t want it.
Don’t get me wrong though, I use Google Chrome as my web browser and I love it :)

I’m all for increasing competition to take bigger chunks out of Microsoft. But saying that we’ll see “PCs of all types” sold with this Chrome OS.

See, while a lot of web stuff is fine and helps me stay in sync, I do real work on my computer. Stata, for example. And sometimes, I need to work on a plane, train, or bus. Last I checked, not all of those places had ready internet access, and if they did, they certainly weren’t free. And God forbid my internet does go down at home, I can still do my work quite easily without it.

[...] a Wisdom of Crowds attempt to parse Googles’ smartly worded announcement. But it gets worse. Michael Arrington triumphally declares: Don’t worry about those desktop apps you think you need. Office? Meh. You’ve got Zoho and [...]

Perhaps an OS being essentially a Javascript engine is not the best for the computer industry, but the growth in Javascripts capabilities due to this research and production will surely change the web for the better.

I think this will be interesting. A Cold War between internet superpowers…

Btw in no way are the engineers at Google inexperiance, yes they are inexperianced in the Desktop OS field, but hardware-wise they are running some incredible servers, and software-wise they revolutionized search, and maps was a major hit. Microsoft will probably kick Google’s ass on the OS front as Microsoft has been doing it for decades, but Google has some formidable firepower.

Eitherway i sense some amazing improvements all over the computing world now that theres competition to accelerate advancements.

Chrome is only going to fight on netbooks. Who uses office on a low power machine? Most businesses use offices in large scale workstations, which will never be replaced by netbooks. So office looks pretty safe from where im sitting.

Sorry if this has already been said, but I did only scan the last half of the conversation.

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HAS ANYBODY ACTUALLY HEARD OR DUAL-BOOTING OR PARTITIONING? ANYBODY?
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I wonder what the point of a browser that loads almost instantly is? OH! To browse almost instantly! Have your ChromeOS on one (rather small) partition incase you need to surf the web or just E-Mail/Wave someone; but if you are really wanting to do some hard-core roductive work out or burn a CD or something, get out you Linux/Ubuntu or even Windows if you really need. It’s free. It saves time. It CAN’T BE BAD. What this is really doing isn’t competing with Windows, but giving people a damn reason that Open Source Browsers can actually replace IE. I have a friend who uses IE. Why? He sees no reason to change. But if there is this, there IS a reason. And why does Google want control of the browser market? Duh.

*Sorry if my spelling was bad – I don’t seem to have a spell checker on Chrome on Linux ^^

If it works on Mac, Windows and Linux already why bother developing a platform specifically for it? That seems incredibly redundant if you ask me.

depends where you work

All microsoft needs to do is make Windows much more lightweight, for example not chewing up 700mb Ram to run windows and my internet browser. If windows was lighter on the computer it could easily chew up much of the netbook market. Infact its pretty much only competing against linux right now, and Google next year.

[...] next year. While Google says the Chrome OS is targeted towards netbooks at the moment, there is definite potential for Google’s OS to expand to the other types of computers, giving Microsoft something to mull [...]

[...] next year. While Google says the Chrome OS is targeted towards netbooks at the moment, there is definite potential for Google’s OS to expand to the other types of computers, giving Microsoft something to mull [...]

Can we get over this yet? It is NOT a competitor to Windows! Never was intended to be, probably never will be. It’s a Web OS. Designed 110% to browse the web. To give you an optimal experience utilizing web applications. Manufacturers are actually considering dual-booting Windows and Chrome OS. Get your facts straight. And please, stop patting yourself on the back. You might make a hole. Arrogant asshole.

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[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, explaining to Rose that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael [...]

[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, saying that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael also touched [...]

[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, saying that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael also touched [...]

[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, saying that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael also [...]

[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, saying that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael also [...]

[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, saying that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael also [...]

[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, saying that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael also [...]

[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, saying that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael also touched [...]

[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, saying that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael also touched [...]

[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, saying that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael also touched [...]

[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, saying that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael also touched [...]

[...] Rose for a chat about the latest news and events in technology. Michael gave his take on the Google vs. Microsoft rivalry, saying that each tech giant is going after the other’s core businesses. Michael also touched [...]

[...] The other focus is on speed, which is why Google is working so closely with the chip guys. This isn’t going to just be Linux with a browser bolted on. It will be (or should be) a compelling user experience with super fast boot and web surfing times. [...]

[...] TechCrunch 上的 Michael Arrington 认为 Chrome OS 是作业系统的重要的革新，对微软是非常严重的竞争威胁。 [...]

[...] more succinctly, Michael Arrington, writing at Techcrunch, sums it up best. He says: The Internet Is Everything. All the OS has to do is boot the damn [...]

[...] Chrome is WebKit-based as well. (I’m surprised Arrington didn’t mention this in his post, actually.) If I had to guess, I’d say Chrome OS is somewhere in between an entirely [...]

[...] a pair of screenshots that may be of Google’s upcoming Chrome OS operating system. Google announced the entirely browser-based OS in July, and since then a number of alleged screenshots have popped [...]

[...] a pair of screenshots that may be of Google’s upcoming Chrome OS operating system. Google announced the entirely browser-based OS in July, and since then a number of alleged screenshots have popped [...]

Why invest hundreds of dollars into a complete system when I can get the 90% of what I really need for free.

I’d definitely be searching for innovative replacements to any of the traditionally ‘local’ apps. Seems like more of a shift in thinking than a complete cutoff.

I think the speculation alone will trigger new ideas and new online apps accessible from cheaper and cheaper devices.

Why bloat when it isn’t always necessary? Getting something t>2009-07-08 18:29:59
2009-07-09 01:29:59

[...] a pair of screenshots that may be of Google’s upcoming Chrome OS operating system. Google announced the entirely browser-based OS in July, and since then a number of alleged screenshots have popped [...]

[...] Excellent TechCrunch article: [...]

[...] system – both are operating systems. Except for the hardware drivers, of course. And oh boy do we agree. Says Ballmer: You know, Google is talking about building an operating system with the [...]

[...] system – both are operating systems. Except for the hardware drivers, of course. And oh boy do we agree. Says Ballmer: You know, Google is talking about building an operating system with the [...]

[...] system – both are operating systems. Except for the hardware drivers, of course. And oh boy do we agree. Says Ballmer: You know, Google is talking about building an operating system with the [...]

Thats great and all, and I LOVE the idea of a Chrome OS, and about 95% of my computing is done on the internet. but that 5% is very important (and will grow for me very soon as I enter the workforce). It is running AutoCAD and similar programs. Whats Chromes response to that?

I think you’re missing the most important thing in this announcement.

“New Windowing System”. X is broken. BADLY. Given that it would be absolutely impossible to make a window system worse than X, this may be what finally gives linux credibility on the desktop.

what the writer doesn’t take into account while he is all so excited about this “free” OS is nothing is free and there lies the problem. Developing and maintaining this OS will take money no matter how many open source people contribute (and I hear so far reaction from that community is not good). Google must generate much more from ad revenue than they do for their relatively simple Google Apps and mail. How many people are willing to share every mouse click with Google and put up with constant ads?

What happens when my internet goes down?

[...] less than a month later Google announced Chrome OS, their own operating system tailored to [...]

I have Google Chrome aside of Opera and Safari. Google Chrome is clear and easy.

Wow…Chrome OS is coming and coming quick! I was on http://www.chromeOSsite.com the other day and they say the rumour is that Google’s new operating system will be coming out this year!