Comments on: The Manhattan Project http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:03:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: reven http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-9486 Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:04:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-9486 This negative WAVE with TWIT – just step away from the plate – LEO is bigger then u.

]]> By: reven http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-22808 Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:04:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-22808 This negative WAVE with TWIT – just step away from the plate – LEO is bigger then u.

]]> By: John Stack http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-9485 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:07:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-9485 I think Wave will have a serious impact on product directions for both Msft MOSS and IBM/Lotus Domino – to the enterprise customer’s benefit. I think you were dead on about strategy; however, I think enterprise thinks quite differently and not as quickly. They’re still learning Web 2.0.

While Microsoft has their gunsights on the remaining 25M Domino seats, they’ve probably noted that many of the document paradigms (and successes) are an adtaption of what Mr. Ozzie et. al (Ray, Jack, Mussie Shore, others (maybe even Bob Balaban (oh hi bob!)) of Iris Associates and Lotus created. The principle difference being the document store is now a directory with XML versus a single object-oriented database. The DNA? Unids are similar. Parent child relationships are similar. Security inheritance different (for some reason.) Near instant, authenticated, communications with stateful client sessions.

What Google must remember is that within the enterprise, IT has to support the nearly 100% connected user. The nearly part is what’s going to get you – they’re the Information Workers.

(Guys, you can have a protocol but without a server and APIs, there’s no way to leverage it.)

Regardless, all of this is going to be a GREAT DEAL OF FUN!

]]> By: John Stack http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-22807 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:07:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-22807 I think Wave will have a serious impact on product directions for both Msft MOSS and IBM/Lotus Domino – to the enterprise customer’s benefit. I think you were dead on about strategy; however, I think enterprise thinks quite differently and not as quickly. They’re still learning Web 2.0.

While Microsoft has their gunsights on the remaining 25M Domino seats, they’ve probably noted that many of the document paradigms (and successes) are an adtaption of what Mr. Ozzie et. al (Ray, Jack, Mussie Shore, others (maybe even Bob Balaban (oh hi bob!)) of Iris Associates and Lotus created. The principle difference being the document store is now a directory with XML versus a single object-oriented database. The DNA? Unids are similar. Parent child relationships are similar. Security inheritance different (for some reason.) Near instant, authenticated, communications with stateful client sessions.

What Google must remember is that within the enterprise, IT has to support the nearly 100% connected user. The nearly part is what’s going to get you – they’re the Information Workers.

(Guys, you can have a protocol but without a server and APIs, there’s no way to leverage it.)

Regardless, all of this is going to be a GREAT DEAL OF FUN!

]]> By: Todd Sieling http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-9484 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:00:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-9484 > Crazy sounding, isn’t it.

No, not at all actually. It sounds like the first shoe of the next big thing dropping. Great analysis, Steve. Please keep it up, and more podcasts if at all possible, I really miss them.

]]> By: Todd Sieling http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-22806 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:00:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-22806 > Crazy sounding, isn’t it.

No, not at all actually. It sounds like the first shoe of the next big thing dropping. Great analysis, Steve. Please keep it up, and more podcasts if at all possible, I really miss them.

]]> By: bbebop http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-9483 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:01:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-9483 What I like about Steve Gillmor is he always makes me think. This piece doesn’t resonate as much, mostly because he frames it as a winner-take-all contest between Google and Microsoft, and his examples of how Microsoft can compete don’t make sense to me.

If I were Microsoft, I would embrace, extend and embed Wave everywhere. What I wouldn’t do is try to come up with something new/better/different, especially if it’s proprietary. No one will trust Microsoft on anything like that. Maybe enterprises, but open source, open access is where we’re headed.

As with Twitter, the big question is how this gets monetized. With widespread adoption of Google Wave, there have to be opportunities for Google, Microsoft and companies we’ve never heard of.

]]> By: bbebop http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-22805 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:01:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-22805 What I like about Steve Gillmor is he always makes me think. This piece doesn’t resonate as much, mostly because he frames it as a winner-take-all contest between Google and Microsoft, and his examples of how Microsoft can compete don’t make sense to me.

If I were Microsoft, I would embrace, extend and embed Wave everywhere. What I wouldn’t do is try to come up with something new/better/different, especially if it’s proprietary. No one will trust Microsoft on anything like that. Maybe enterprises, but open source, open access is where we’re headed.

As with Twitter, the big question is how this gets monetized. With widespread adoption of Google Wave, there have to be opportunities for Google, Microsoft and companies we’ve never heard of.

]]> By: lokesh http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-9482 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:14:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-9482 Nice Post Steve.
Its a api, its a protocol..
Its a big leap in the collaboration and real time communication space. With open sourcing it, Google has opened the doors for much more innovations and contributions from the open source community.

~Lokesh

]]> By: lokesh http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-22804 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:14:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-22804 Nice Post Steve.
Its a api, its a protocol..
Its a big leap in the collaboration and real time communication space. With open sourcing it, Google has opened the doors for much more innovations and contributions from the open source community.

~Lokesh

]]> By: Francine Hardaway http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-9481 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:23:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-9481 Steve, I have another thought, but you need to finish it for me. Somehow, what I noticed in trying Bing is connected to all this. In Bing, I found information about myself that was quite real time, quite relevant, and pretty shocking, since I had forgotten a lot of it was out there, although I’m trained in the transparent life.

So there is a stream of gestures that either MSFT or GOOG can and will take advantage and possesion of. This raises many questions in my mind.

Coffee?

]]> By: Francine Hardaway http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-22803 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:23:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-22803 Steve, I have another thought, but you need to finish it for me. Somehow, what I noticed in trying Bing is connected to all this. In Bing, I found information about myself that was quite real time, quite relevant, and pretty shocking, since I had forgotten a lot of it was out there, although I’m trained in the transparent life.

So there is a stream of gestures that either MSFT or GOOG can and will take advantage and possesion of. This raises many questions in my mind.

Coffee?

]]> By: yep http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-9480 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:34:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-9480 agreed. nice post, Steve. No razors either! ;-P

Wave/Mesh are scaring the smile out of me!

]]> By: yep http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-22802 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:34:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-22802 agreed. nice post, Steve. No razors either! ;-P

Wave/Mesh are scaring the smile out of me!

]]> By: Bill http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-9479 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:28:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-9479 Last year when Live Mesh was demoed at the Azure announcement, Ray Ozzie said that ‘an open source product using a protocol such as XMPP could be competition’…

and so it is :-) .

Great vindication for the XMPP folks who’ve spent years trying to tell people that it was always much more than just about chat…

- Bill

]]> By: Bill http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-22801 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:28:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-22801 Last year when Live Mesh was demoed at the Azure announcement, Ray Ozzie said that ‘an open source product using a protocol such as XMPP could be competition’…

and so it is :-) .

Great vindication for the XMPP folks who’ve spent years trying to tell people that it was always much more than just about chat…

- Bill

]]> By: Chris http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-9478 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:52:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-9478 It’s nice to read thoughtful commentary on the implications of Wave instead of someone just trying to nit pick alpha quality software.

This could have a huge impact in the Content Management Systems market. Especially if Google transitions Apps to Wave and instantly start with tens of millions of users.

]]> By: Chris http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/01/the-manhattan-project/#comment-22800 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:52:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=2516#comment-22800 It’s nice to read thoughtful commentary on the implications of Wave instead of someone just trying to nit pick alpha quality software.

This could have a huge impact in the Content Management Systems market. Especially if Google transitions Apps to Wave and instantly start with tens of millions of users.

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