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		<title>By: Steve Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-7166</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Gillmor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah and nobody wanted Track either.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Steve Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-20488</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Gillmor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah and nobody wanted Track either.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Francine hardaway</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-7165</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francine hardaway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of the Facebook/Twitter debate depends on whether FB users really want what Twitter has to offer, and so far all FB&#039;s pools say they don&#039;t. They are puzzled by the live stream in the new interface, and many of them don&#039;t like it. Only about 5% do, I read ssomewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of the Facebook/Twitter debate depends on whether FB users really want what Twitter has to offer, and so far all FB&#8217;s pools say they don&#8217;t. They are puzzled by the live stream in the new interface, and many of them don&#8217;t like it. Only about 5% do, I read ssomewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Francine hardaway</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-20487</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francine hardaway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of the Facebook/Twitter debate depends on whether FB users really want what Twitter has to offer, and so far all FB&#039;s pools say they don&#039;t. They are puzzled by the live stream in the new interface, and many of them don&#039;t like it. Only about 5% do, I read ssomewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of the Facebook/Twitter debate depends on whether FB users really want what Twitter has to offer, and so far all FB&#8217;s pools say they don&#8217;t. They are puzzled by the live stream in the new interface, and many of them don&#8217;t like it. Only about 5% do, I read ssomewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-7164</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Understood some more, thanks.

The odd contradiction is that Microsoft is indeed about developers3, but a lot of those developers are finding it hard to envision a cloud world.

Microsoft mixes (pun intended) a dev message where Office apps on the desktop are still as valid as Mesh or anything else from the &#039;Ray Camp&#039;. These guys aren&#039;t the early adopters anymore and more the internal IT shop pragmatists.

You&#039;ll more likely find Ruby/Python/Hadoop devs as the ones at the startups with the vision, and they won&#039;t be picking Azure despite any competitive advantage of libraries/graph helpers.

I&#039;d say there is a fair chance of Azure stalling and be hit by the two fronts of the cost conscious heading for Amazon and the inventors heading to Google Apps.

Interesting times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understood some more, thanks.</p>
<p>The odd contradiction is that Microsoft is indeed about developers3, but a lot of those developers are finding it hard to envision a cloud world.</p>
<p>Microsoft mixes (pun intended) a dev message where Office apps on the desktop are still as valid as Mesh or anything else from the &#8216;Ray Camp&#8217;. These guys aren&#8217;t the early adopters anymore and more the internal IT shop pragmatists.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll more likely find Ruby/Python/Hadoop devs as the ones at the startups with the vision, and they won&#8217;t be picking Azure despite any competitive advantage of libraries/graph helpers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say there is a fair chance of Azure stalling and be hit by the two fronts of the cost conscious heading for Amazon and the inventors heading to Google Apps.</p>
<p>Interesting times.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-20486</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Understood some more, thanks.

The odd contradiction is that Microsoft is indeed about developers3, but a lot of those developers are finding it hard to envision a cloud world.

Microsoft mixes (pun intended) a dev message where Office apps on the desktop are still as valid as Mesh or anything else from the &#039;Ray Camp&#039;. These guys aren&#039;t the early adopters anymore and more the internal IT shop pragmatists.

You&#039;ll more likely find Ruby/Python/Hadoop devs as the ones at the startups with the vision, and they won&#039;t be picking Azure despite any competitive advantage of libraries/graph helpers.

I&#039;d say there is a fair chance of Azure stalling and be hit by the two fronts of the cost conscious heading for Amazon and the inventors heading to Google Apps.

Interesting times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understood some more, thanks.</p>
<p>The odd contradiction is that Microsoft is indeed about developers3, but a lot of those developers are finding it hard to envision a cloud world.</p>
<p>Microsoft mixes (pun intended) a dev message where Office apps on the desktop are still as valid as Mesh or anything else from the &#8216;Ray Camp&#8217;. These guys aren&#8217;t the early adopters anymore and more the internal IT shop pragmatists.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll more likely find Ruby/Python/Hadoop devs as the ones at the startups with the vision, and they won&#8217;t be picking Azure despite any competitive advantage of libraries/graph helpers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say there is a fair chance of Azure stalling and be hit by the two fronts of the cost conscious heading for Amazon and the inventors heading to Google Apps.</p>
<p>Interesting times.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-7163</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Gillmor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Facebook commoditizes Track on Twitter, Twitter will need to move quickly to find an advertising partner or risk being lapped by FB. That could make Microsoft an attractive haven, particularly with the Azure Service Bus proving a more built out realtime engine than Google. Mesh being part of WIndows/Windows Live means leveraging social graph metadata is much easier in the net generation of Microsfot tools. All of this sells Azure big time. Microsoft, remember, is all about developers, developers, developers. Amazon is about infrastructure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Facebook commoditizes Track on Twitter, Twitter will need to move quickly to find an advertising partner or risk being lapped by FB. That could make Microsoft an attractive haven, particularly with the Azure Service Bus proving a more built out realtime engine than Google. Mesh being part of WIndows/Windows Live means leveraging social graph metadata is much easier in the net generation of Microsfot tools. All of this sells Azure big time. Microsoft, remember, is all about developers, developers, developers. Amazon is about infrastructure.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-20485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Gillmor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Facebook commoditizes Track on Twitter, Twitter will need to move quickly to find an advertising partner or risk being lapped by FB. That could make Microsoft an attractive haven, particularly with the Azure Service Bus proving a more built out realtime engine than Google. Mesh being part of WIndows/Windows Live means leveraging social graph metadata is much easier in the net generation of Microsfot tools. All of this sells Azure big time. Microsoft, remember, is all about developers, developers, developers. Amazon is about infrastructure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Facebook commoditizes Track on Twitter, Twitter will need to move quickly to find an advertising partner or risk being lapped by FB. That could make Microsoft an attractive haven, particularly with the Azure Service Bus proving a more built out realtime engine than Google. Mesh being part of WIndows/Windows Live means leveraging social graph metadata is much easier in the net generation of Microsfot tools. All of this sells Azure big time. Microsoft, remember, is all about developers, developers, developers. Amazon is about infrastructure.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-7162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Gillmor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Everyone setting removes the reciprocity factor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Everyone setting removes the reciprocity factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-20484</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Gillmor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Everyone setting removes the reciprocity factor.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Karoli</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-7161</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karoli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see Facebook&#039;s open stream being embraced by many other than those who are already on Twitter...and then as a second choice. That could certainly change, I suppose, though I still have a strong dislike of the Facebook requirement to have friend reciprocity instead of simply allowing me to follow interesting people, like Twitter does.

However, that&#039;s trivial in comparison to the bigger picture. The most intriguing idea in this post is a *real* Live Search...that&#039;s a game changer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see Facebook&#8217;s open stream being embraced by many other than those who are already on Twitter&#8230;and then as a second choice. That could certainly change, I suppose, though I still have a strong dislike of the Facebook requirement to have friend reciprocity instead of simply allowing me to follow interesting people, like Twitter does.</p>
<p>However, that&#8217;s trivial in comparison to the bigger picture. The most intriguing idea in this post is a *real* Live Search&#8230;that&#8217;s a game changer.</p>
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		<title>By: Karoli</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-20483</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karoli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see Facebook&#039;s open stream being embraced by many other than those who are already on Twitter...and then as a second choice. That could certainly change, I suppose, though I still have a strong dislike of the Facebook requirement to have friend reciprocity instead of simply allowing me to follow interesting people, like Twitter does.

However, that&#039;s trivial in comparison to the bigger picture. The most intriguing idea in this post is a *real* Live Search...that&#039;s a game changer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see Facebook&#8217;s open stream being embraced by many other than those who are already on Twitter&#8230;and then as a second choice. That could certainly change, I suppose, though I still have a strong dislike of the Facebook requirement to have friend reciprocity instead of simply allowing me to follow interesting people, like Twitter does.</p>
<p>However, that&#8217;s trivial in comparison to the bigger picture. The most intriguing idea in this post is a *real* Live Search&#8230;that&#8217;s a game changer.</p>
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		<title>By: What Microsoft, Google, and Twitter should learn from AIG &#187; odd time signatures</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-7160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Microsoft, Google, and Twitter should learn from AIG &#187; odd time signatures]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] since we all seem to be mind-melding today. Steve Gillmor says Facebook&#8217;s opening of their tweetstream commoditizes the real-time stream. Also Frameshop&#8217;s analysis of why AIG&#8217;s actions are more evil than I described.         [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] since we all seem to be mind-melding today. Steve Gillmor says Facebook&#8217;s opening of their tweetstream commoditizes the real-time stream. Also Frameshop&#8217;s analysis of why AIG&#8217;s actions are more evil than I described.         [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What Microsoft, Google, and Twitter should learn from AIG &#187; odd time signatures</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-20482</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Microsoft, Google, and Twitter should learn from AIG &#187; odd time signatures]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=1949#comment-20482</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] since we all seem to be mind-melding today. Steve Gillmor says Facebook&#8217;s opening of their tweetstream commoditizes the real-time stream. Also Frameshop&#8217;s analysis of why AIG&#8217;s actions are more evil than I described.         [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] since we all seem to be mind-melding today. Steve Gillmor says Facebook&#8217;s opening of their tweetstream commoditizes the real-time stream. Also Frameshop&#8217;s analysis of why AIG&#8217;s actions are more evil than I described.         [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-7159</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Steve,

Question on this bit:

&quot;..who needs a game changer in search, social search in realtime may prove sufficiently attractive at a time when a Twitter-esque service could be slapped into Azure with a minimum of effort.&quot;

Surely Microsoft is the platform vendor for Azure, and they won&#039;t get any additional kudo/respect/share just because someone comes along and writes a social realtime search app that happens to just run on the platform Azure?

Azure is just a run-time that is interesting but hard to quantify until they actually release a pricing model. Put another way, there are cool apps on S2/EC2 but people don&#039;t see those as game changers for Amazon?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve,</p>
<p>Question on this bit:</p>
<p>&#8220;..who needs a game changer in search, social search in realtime may prove sufficiently attractive at a time when a Twitter-esque service could be slapped into Azure with a minimum of effort.&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely Microsoft is the platform vendor for Azure, and they won&#8217;t get any additional kudo/respect/share just because someone comes along and writes a social realtime search app that happens to just run on the platform Azure?</p>
<p>Azure is just a run-time that is interesting but hard to quantify until they actually release a pricing model. Put another way, there are cool apps on S2/EC2 but people don&#8217;t see those as game changers for Amazon?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/cloud-service-bus/#comment-20481</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Steve,

Question on this bit:

&quot;..who needs a game changer in search, social search in realtime may prove sufficiently attractive at a time when a Twitter-esque service could be slapped into Azure with a minimum of effort.&quot;

Surely Microsoft is the platform vendor for Azure, and they won&#039;t get any additional kudo/respect/share just because someone comes along and writes a social realtime search app that happens to just run on the platform Azure?

Azure is just a run-time that is interesting but hard to quantify until they actually release a pricing model. Put another way, there are cool apps on S2/EC2 but people don&#039;t see those as game changers for Amazon?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve,</p>
<p>Question on this bit:</p>
<p>&#8220;..who needs a game changer in search, social search in realtime may prove sufficiently attractive at a time when a Twitter-esque service could be slapped into Azure with a minimum of effort.&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely Microsoft is the platform vendor for Azure, and they won&#8217;t get any additional kudo/respect/share just because someone comes along and writes a social realtime search app that happens to just run on the platform Azure?</p>
<p>Azure is just a run-time that is interesting but hard to quantify until they actually release a pricing model. Put another way, there are cool apps on S2/EC2 but people don&#8217;t see those as game changers for Amazon?</p>
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