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		<title>By: lola pixie</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/21/will-this-economy-finally-push-the-toyota-way-into-software-development/#comment-18568</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 09:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: e.kobayashi@graffiti.net</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 07:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am glad to inform you of the publication of my new book about Toyota Production System.
The book is titled &quot;The truth about Toyota and TPS&quot; and can be found at the following link: http://amzn.com/2917260025

Regards,
E. Kobayashi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to inform you of the publication of my new book about Toyota Production System.<br />
The book is titled &#8220;The truth about Toyota and TPS&#8221; and can be found at the following link: <a href="http://amzn.com/2917260025" rel="nofollow">http://amzn.com/2917260025</a></p>
<p>Regards,<br />
E. Kobayashi.</p>
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		<title>By: Voice of Reason</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Voice of Reason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[stupid peoples.
your all acting like children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stupid peoples.<br />
your all acting like children.</p>
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		<title>By: PM Hut</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/21/will-this-economy-finally-push-the-toyota-way-into-software-development/#comment-18565</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PM Hut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will be, IMO, an interesting experiment for Toyota with Agile implementation. Agile is known to work best in small/coherent/face-to-face teams. Actually this is one of its &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.pmhut.com/limitations-of-agile-software-development&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;limitations of agile&lt;/a&gt;.

Time will tell whether Agile will prove to be a decent and worthwhile alternative for waterfall. This is an ongoing debate between the 2 camps that doesn&#039;t look it&#039;s about to end any soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be, IMO, an interesting experiment for Toyota with Agile implementation. Agile is known to work best in small/coherent/face-to-face teams. Actually this is one of its <a href='http://www.pmhut.com/limitations-of-agile-software-development' rel="nofollow">limitations of agile</a>.</p>
<p>Time will tell whether Agile will prove to be a decent and worthwhile alternative for waterfall. This is an ongoing debate between the 2 camps that doesn&#8217;t look it&#8217;s about to end any soon.</p>
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		<title>By: giglioraninomicon</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hubert -- comments like that about the Empire State Building (or other construction comparisons) always make me laugh.  They are so agile because they didn&#039;t decide how to subdivide the square for each floor until the last minute!  Amazing!

In reality, you don&#039;t get easy-to-implement changes during dev, you get the equivalent of:

&quot;Can we make the next two floors entirely aquariums?&quot;

&quot;Can we make the next floor have 10x the square footage, and the one after that needs to be round and half the size of the others.&quot;

Etc...  analogies like this simply do not make sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubert &#8212; comments like that about the Empire State Building (or other construction comparisons) always make me laugh.  They are so agile because they didn&#8217;t decide how to subdivide the square for each floor until the last minute!  Amazing!</p>
<p>In reality, you don&#8217;t get easy-to-implement changes during dev, you get the equivalent of:</p>
<p>&#8220;Can we make the next two floors entirely aquariums?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Can we make the next floor have 10x the square footage, and the one after that needs to be round and half the size of the others.&#8221;</p>
<p>Etc&#8230;  analogies like this simply do not make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Implementing SCRUM&#8230;the basics - Part 1 &#124; pmStudent</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/21/will-this-economy-finally-push-the-toyota-way-into-software-development/#comment-18563</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Implementing SCRUM&#8230;the basics - Part 1 &#124; pmStudent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to the RSS feed for updates on this topic.Powered by WP Greet BoxI started to write a response to a recent blog post about the effect that a slowing economy will have on the adoption of Agile project management [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: 漫天风 &#187; AgileLog，On site Agile Project Management Service</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/21/will-this-economy-finally-push-the-toyota-way-into-software-development/#comment-18562</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[漫天风 &#187; AgileLog，On site Agile Project Management Service]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 在当前经济危机的形式下，也许敏捷的项目管理服务会是一个机会，而且敏捷的热潮正在国内开展起来了！ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 在当前经济危机的形式下，也许敏捷的项目管理服务会是一个机会，而且敏捷的热潮正在国内开展起来了！ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Abraham</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/21/will-this-economy-finally-push-the-toyota-way-into-software-development/#comment-18561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Abraham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agile - good. Rally UI - not so good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agile &#8211; good. Rally UI &#8211; not so good.</p>
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		<title>By: Will This Economy Finally Push the Toyota Way Into Software Development? &#124; micro jmw blog</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/21/will-this-economy-finally-push-the-toyota-way-into-software-development/#comment-18560</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will This Economy Finally Push the Toyota Way Into Software Development? &#124; micro jmw blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Will This Economy Finally Push the Toyota Way Into Software Development?Interesting. Toyota pioneered the concept of an agile development process? [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Will This Economy Finally Push the Toyota Way Into Software Development? TechTango</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/21/will-this-economy-finally-push-the-toyota-way-into-software-development/#comment-18559</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#187; Will This Economy Finally Push the Toyota Way Into Software Development? TechTango]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Will This Economy Finally Push the Toyota Way Into Software Development?Interesting. Toyota pioneered the concept of an agile development process? [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Kürtçe Müzik</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/21/will-this-economy-finally-push-the-toyota-way-into-software-development/#comment-18558</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kürtçe Müzik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for information]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for information</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Crosby</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/21/will-this-economy-finally-push-the-toyota-way-into-software-development/#comment-18557</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Crosby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Call it what you will, but creating a development environment adaptive to change and expediency will be the only way for organizations to proactively react to their customers evolving needs and survive the downturn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call it what you will, but creating a development environment adaptive to change and expediency will be the only way for organizations to proactively react to their customers evolving needs and survive the downturn.</p>
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		<title>By: thinkpositive</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thinkpositive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi again. Thanks for responding and your argument is logical.

My thoughts are that the problem doesn&#039;t lie with the process or method. It lies with the team.

With the agile method you need a very good team of programmers that can write clean code in a flash. What if you have someone that is new to your team and hasn&#039;t done a lot of programming?

I think that its really not a big priority which method is being used. But the importance is that you have a good team that can do the work fast and good. Thats why I&#039;m just not that impressed with the agile method (yet).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again. Thanks for responding and your argument is logical.</p>
<p>My thoughts are that the problem doesn&#8217;t lie with the process or method. It lies with the team.</p>
<p>With the agile method you need a very good team of programmers that can write clean code in a flash. What if you have someone that is new to your team and hasn&#8217;t done a lot of programming?</p>
<p>I think that its really not a big priority which method is being used. But the importance is that you have a good team that can do the work fast and good. Thats why I&#8217;m just not that impressed with the agile method (yet).</p>
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		<title>By: NotAChance</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/21/will-this-economy-finally-push-the-toyota-way-into-software-development/#comment-18555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NotAChance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...Salesforce.com there software runs on Google technology...&quot;

Salesforce.com does not run their software on Google technology. And the rest of what you stated about Salesforce.com is all wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Salesforce.com there software runs on Google technology&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Salesforce.com does not run their software on Google technology. And the rest of what you stated about Salesforce.com is all wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: The Auto Bailout Has Me Feeling Darwinian About The Future of Publishing &#124; INDEX // mb</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/21/will-this-economy-finally-push-the-toyota-way-into-software-development/#comment-18554</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Auto Bailout Has Me Feeling Darwinian About The Future of Publishing &#124; INDEX // mb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] eyes they are doing what is necessary. Only time will tell if it is enough. Calls for adopting the Toyota way in publishing &#8212; especially in production &#8212; are only useful if they come from [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] eyes they are doing what is necessary. Only time will tell if it is enough. Calls for adopting the Toyota way in publishing &#8212; especially in production &#8212; are only useful if they come from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Evans-Greenwood</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Evans-Greenwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

Outsourcing is a separate issue to offshore, and seems be increasing driven by limited management bandwidth than cost (i.e. there&#039;s a limited number of balls we can keep in the air at one time, so one option is to get someone else to juggle some of our balls for us.).

r.

PEG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Outsourcing is a separate issue to offshore, and seems be increasing driven by limited management bandwidth than cost (i.e. there&#8217;s a limited number of balls we can keep in the air at one time, so one option is to get someone else to juggle some of our balls for us.).</p>
<p>r.</p>
<p>PEG</p>
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		<title>By: Agile development finally coming to the main stream? &#171; InfoBeans - Software Services</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I started a software company while clueless about software development (don&#039;t ask...). I hired a few programmers and embarked on my journey. Now, after some 5 years in the business, it appears that we&#039;re developing much more efficient than our competitors with much less defects. How come?
Lacking formal education in IT I went with common sense instead of standard methods taught at college. This way I avoided some of the common mistakes in the industry.
When doing some research on the differences between our own methods and industry standard, I discovered that what we do much resembles Agile methods. We&#039;re flexible, have hardly any hierarchy and use many iterations. So unknowingly we adopted agile methods and stayed from waterfall as far as possible. I saw waterfall at work, but it made no sense to me. For me it was something for big bad corporations and cubicles, not for lean mean companies whith people who actually enjoy their work.
I chuckle when I hear people talking about agile alomost as if it&#039;s the second coming of JC. For me it&#039;s just commons sense. No more. No less.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started a software company while clueless about software development (don&#8217;t ask&#8230;). I hired a few programmers and embarked on my journey. Now, after some 5 years in the business, it appears that we&#8217;re developing much more efficient than our competitors with much less defects. How come?<br />
Lacking formal education in IT I went with common sense instead of standard methods taught at college. This way I avoided some of the common mistakes in the industry.<br />
When doing some research on the differences between our own methods and industry standard, I discovered that what we do much resembles Agile methods. We&#8217;re flexible, have hardly any hierarchy and use many iterations. So unknowingly we adopted agile methods and stayed from waterfall as far as possible. I saw waterfall at work, but it made no sense to me. For me it was something for big bad corporations and cubicles, not for lean mean companies whith people who actually enjoy their work.<br />
I chuckle when I hear people talking about agile alomost as if it&#8217;s the second coming of JC. For me it&#8217;s just commons sense. No more. No less.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Daily Reading As The Year Winds DownFeld Thoughts &#187; Daily Reading As The Year Winds Down</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#187; Daily Reading As The Year Winds DownFeld Thoughts &#187; Daily Reading As The Year Winds Down]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Will This Economy Finally Push the Toyota Way Into Software Development?&#160; Good short thought piece about Agile software development highlighting Rally Software.&#160; My friends at Rally have had an awesome year and I’m really proud of them. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Will This Economy Finally Push the Toyota Way Into Software Development?&#160; Good short thought piece about Agile software development highlighting Rally Software.&#160; My friends at Rally have had an awesome year and I’m really proud of them. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Yakima</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Yakima]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) For those who hate the word &quot;Agile&quot;: remove it from your vocabulary but proceed working in short iterations within highly motivated teams strongly coupled with your customer - you will be competitive these days

2) I visited Rally when I was in Boulder, CO 2 years ago. I talked to Ryan and other guys on his team. They develop their software same way as they market it to others. That is fair.

3) In java world, for instance, they choose different dev environments: eclipse, netbeans, idea etc. And there&#039;s always huge amount of inspired proponents of each, ready to participate in long-long religious debates. But that&#039;s life. So people use Rally, others use MSP etc-etc.

I think agile and live agile and my team does too. I respect everyone who opposes it either, because they give my team and other teams like mine a competitive advantage. Every opinion should be respected!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) For those who hate the word &#8220;Agile&#8221;: remove it from your vocabulary but proceed working in short iterations within highly motivated teams strongly coupled with your customer &#8211; you will be competitive these days</p>
<p>2) I visited Rally when I was in Boulder, CO 2 years ago. I talked to Ryan and other guys on his team. They develop their software same way as they market it to others. That is fair.</p>
<p>3) In java world, for instance, they choose different dev environments: eclipse, netbeans, idea etc. And there&#8217;s always huge amount of inspired proponents of each, ready to participate in long-long religious debates. But that&#8217;s life. So people use Rally, others use MSP etc-etc.</p>
<p>I think agile and live agile and my team does too. I respect everyone who opposes it either, because they give my team and other teams like mine a competitive advantage. Every opinion should be respected!</p>
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