Microsoft is now coming to the cloud computing and now we have to what others going to do. Microsoft is the company that comes late in every market but it becomes the leader of that market example is browser.

Good Concept….more money for Microsoft

I think cloud computing should be OS independent i.e. it should run applications of different platforms independent of any OS. The so called Azure service is futile for organizations running hybrid platforms like .NET + PHP or any JAVA based apps.
Microsoft did try to make the web Windows based but failed. Lets see what will happen to their cloud computing framework.

Glad to hear this is happening – just wish we had some details (when will it be available? COST????)

Many other cloud computing frameworks do not run .NET or MS SQL, I see no one complaining about that, but if MS doesn’t offer all platforms, then they get ridiculed. Nice and fair.

Seems like the Sun business model is finally coming to fruition, at Microsoft.

Sounds like it gonna rock. /microsoft plant

aah….finally a good move from Microsoft.

http://www.livbit.com

MSFT will do what they always do; make it a whole lot easier to builda appliations for the cloud than anybody else with good tools, good framweorks and good pricing. They’ll let devs use the languages they want to use, not just Ruby or some other random thing. Talk to anyone using Amazon Web Services? It’s a pain in the butt. GoogleApp Engine? Ruby only.

MSFT could always screw it up but usually when they make ‘big bets’ like this they pay off. When they announced .NET…what was it? 8 years ago?…they had 0% marketshare. 8 years later .NET is probably the most popular dev platform beyind plain old HTML/Javascript.

PS. Cool name too.

Nice photo.

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Wonder how much the SUDDEN downturn in the economy influenced their direction?

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Did Bill Gates resist the idea during hid reign?

Note: In the Monday keynote, Microsoft’s Amitabh Srivastava made it clear that Windows Azure was not an operating system, but rather a complete cloud-based hosting management service.

So its not an OS like ZP/Vista that you can install, its just a “Web-based-platform.”

You conviently leave out that MS is supporting non MS languages like Python, Eclipse framework etc. Poor reporting to leave it out as it confuses folks and feeds stereotypes.

Interesting, I was kind of confused about this at first. Thanks for clearing that up.

Joe -

Well, you’re right on one front and wrong on so many others that I had to respond.

You are so totally right on the “Microsoft gets it right on tools, frameworks and pricing”. So many other companies fumble the ball on this one thing that they never go anywhere. Microsoft understood long ago that its all about developers and getting developers to write apps for your platform.

Of course, having a convicted monopolist use their market position to leverage new technologies that they control into the market so that they can further their monopoly position doesn’t take rocket scientist to figure out.

The challenge is for the non-proprietary, standards based community to do as good of a job as Microsoft does in this regard – and we still have a ways to go, for sure.

Then there’s a number of things you got wrong:

1. Do you have personal experience with Amazon Web Services? I use them every day to run my business and they’re only a ‘pain in the butt’ if you don’t bother reading documentation and use the tools (like ElasticFox) that Amazon supplies.

2. Um, Google App Engine currently only runs Python, not Ruby, but you were close, really, because they’re almost the same language… NOT!

3. “8 years later .NET is probably the most popular dev platform beyind plain old HTML/Javascript.” – really?? Do you have data to back that up?? I’m always suspicious when I see people say ‘probably’, because its an equivocation that renders the rest of the assertion meaningless. Here’s some real data on the popularity of programming languages: http://www.langpop.com. None of the multiple sources used for those surveys shows C# above sixth place… and the distributions show the vast majority using C, C++, Java, etc. way before they use C#. I know that .NET libraries can be called by IronPython/IronRuby, but I’d be curious as to how many people writing Python or Ruby are using that technology.

You might try doing something called ‘research’ before posting next time.

- Bill

with Microsoft competing with Amazon, Seattle is getting more “cloudy” than before

I am at PDC and saw the drill down of this. whats cool is you can use Visual Studio and all the current tools to build apps and deploy. typical MSFT ease of use and easy of management etc.

moreover, people who want non .NET apps, Azure will offer native apps also so you can build and test apps on GoogleApps etc and then deploy it on Azure – if you find it to be better, developer-friendly, scalable and cost effective etc. I think this is great news for all Entrepreneurs.

Brian, I like your livbit, fun stuff!

this is so darn sexy

pricing ? how to get on it? I would love to port our site over.

We have started AzureJournal to cover everything about the new Cloud Platform.

http://www.azurejournal.com

-Marcio

hahaha

If you only had your facts straight, you might better understand

hahaha

Correction –
From another TC post:
This is a comment from Radio Africa, Zimbabwe –President Obama will ask Congress to change immigration laws in order to allow thousands of HIV-infected Africans to move to the US with government financial help.
This “humanitarian gesture” will start with citizens of Kenya…
The concept behind this action is to share the high quality of health care in the US with foreign countries in need.
The US federal government will apply heavy fines or revocation of licenses to major hospitals that fail to increase their capacity to treat new patients or refuse to do so. Likeky initial relocation cities are Washington DC, San Francisco and Miami.

WOW! This is coming folks…
Medicins Sans Frontiers

I assume you’re either a PHPuppet (pronounced “Fuppet”) or another trash coder.

Bill,

If you looked at your own list you’d see Visual Basic right behind PHP and Perl. That’s certainly another .NET-dominated language. Combine the VB crowd with the C# crowd and you have the third largest category. Maybe you should read your own “research” before spouting off your mouth like a moron.

Excuse me, right *between* PHP and Perl.

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Aaron -

Hmmm… since we can’t really tell which of the VB programmers are still using VB6 and which have switched to VB.NET (and given the unpopularity of VB.NET to existing VB programmers and the impedance mismatch between the two languages, it wasn’t a very popular transition) I can’t make the same leap you can to say that ‘all VB programmers are now .NET programmers’.

But, for the sake of argument, let’s say that they all have been converted (some not willingly, mind you).

Using the *1* graph that you’re referencing, showing VB at 5th place between PHP and Perl, is inadequate. While it’s best showing was actually 3rd, it placed accordingly for all graphs, top to bottom:

5th – between PHP and Perl
10th – between Perl and Ruby
3rd – between Java and C++
23rd – between Lua and Erlang
18th – between Lisp and Tcl
21st – between Ocaml and Haskell
11th -between C# and shell
17th – between Assembly and Lua
23rd – between Assembly and Fortran
12th – between shell and C#
17th – between shell and Ocaml

Let’s look at another measure of language / framework popularity. I just pulled data from http://www.dice.com for programmer job ads and found these statistics:

Language – number of job postings:

C – 15044
Java – 13480
C# – 6458
C++ – 6382
JavaScript – 5775
Perl – 4534
VB – 3561
PHP – 2130
Python – 1398
Ruby – 713

C# + VB – 10019

Even if you add C# and VB together (because “they’re all .NET programmers”), they still fall short of both C and Java.

I’m not arguing that any of these technologies are better than any other. In fact, I hate Java – tried to write code in it 13 years ago (and several times since then) and there was way too much psychic pain there for me.

However, I would argue that a framework that has the benefit of a monopoly shoving things down people’s throats that they don’t really want (as with the conversion from VB6 -> VB.NET) hasn’t really achieved its position by technical merit. Not that I’m naive enough to think many things do, I just don’t think they should be celebrated as such.

- Bill

No, dipshit. old school C/ assembly only; i like hardwareinterfaces there are several errors in his comment that i dont care to correct (someone did below already)

you just graduated so i wouldn’t get too high on your horse

Windows Azure seems quite promising. Let’s see how the things will move on.

ya
you are right
they build really gr8 applications for developers

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Wow, someone is still butthurt over the monopoly fiasco.

Consider the following:

- The Common Language Infrastructure (CLI) as well as the C# language are both ECMA standards.

- The Shared-Source CLI (Rotor) project provides the full source code to the ECMA CLI/C# toolchain including the compiler and interpreter, which you are free to use for research or to help you build your own implementation of the CLI.

- Free and Open Source alternatives exist to Microsoft’s .NET Framework, such as the Mono project, and Portable.NET across a multitude of platforms.

- There are over 50 languages that run on the CLI, most of which are represented in one form or another on the chart you presented.

- The site you claim as “research” leans heavily on reporting data from seemingly random sources: open-source repositories, craigslist job postings, amazon book results, search engine results pages. None of these would provide a clear enough picture of .NET adoption in the corporate sector where languages like VB.NET and C# are dominant languages alongside Java.

I would have to say that you make no point as it relates to Microsoft’s vision for .NET or the .NET framework itself. I would specifically refute your claim that .NET hasn’t achieved its position based on technical merit. Microsoft gave developers a choice (actually dozens of them), as well as the tools they need to do their jobs, and that’s what put .NET adoption where it is today.

That said, resume your unhealthy and baseless hatred of Micro$oft.

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Good news indeed! I thought Amazon had the lead in terms of cloud computing because they were about to offer virtual machine hosting. But with what I saw what AZURE is all about, let me tell you that Microsoft is going to get a huge part of the market just because they are going to grab all the .NET developers out there…

my 2 cents
Alex

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IBM has launched cloud computing platform only in october 2009. Microsoft is 1 year faster =)