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the Python only limitation is killer

I know a whole lot of people (myself included) who have been debating getting our hands dirty with Python. I guess now’s as good a time as any…

Yet another language to learn, though? Sure we can do it, but what’s the percentage of Python programmers vs. other languages out there.

Not really impressed.

What makes Amazon such a powerful concept is the flexibility. I can configure my own solution using my own platform and using my existing webhost (if I want to). What Google’s done is to essentially invent an inferior webhost.

Its Geocities 2.0, now with Python!

For what kind of self-respecting developer is the requirement that they use python a “non-starter?”

Python-only = FAIL!

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It’s a non-starter for a lot of folks who are already comfortably using S3. More about efficiency than self-respect, I’d say.

As a current Django user I couldn’t be happier that they are using python. Would love to see a functional comparison.

python as an option = cool

pythin as the only option = strange restriction

Other than not wanting to port their APIs to other languages, why would they limit to python, and not also support Ruby, PHP, and any scripting language.

Sounds like hosting as it should be.
However hosting 3d pary apps means support…
Google support won’t be cheap meaning that the price could get too high to compete. Python usage makes it suitable only for projects that require hard Database usage as getting the software developers that can code on Python is much more expencive.

So i think the project could be great for serious apps (if the price isn’t too high) but useless for 99% of websites.

@Guido (?)-
For all the developers who have already written their apps, it’s not great news. If you’re starting from scratch, you can probably learn Python fairly quickly, but I’d think plenty of developers who would like to use this service have already written substantial amounts of code in other languages such as Rails.

It’s not so much that anything is bad about Python as that locking developers – who are essentially looking for a beefy webhost – into one language is a bad idea.

I’d be interested to see how this scales compared to something like MediaTemple’s GridServer.

Google App Engine: No AWS Killer, Python++…

Tonight Google releases Google App Engine and TechCrunch.com has the coverage.
The biggest news is that App Engine is free to use up to a certain amount, like all other Google developer services. (I previously postulated). Pricing after the free perio…

Until I can use BigTable w/ my self hosted PHP app, it’s far from an AWS killer. Good start but they’ve still got a ways to go.

That’s cool, they released a product that was released years ago by Amazon.

good job

@DaveS, I disagree. The low entry barrier level on PHP has caused most PHP developers to lack understanding, where-as I’m yet to meet a Python developer who isn’t insanely smart & with a high understanding of technical concepts.

Sure, it’ll put some people off, but really if a developer is scared off by learning a new programming language should it solve the problem well I’d argue the developer isn’t much of a developer in the first place.

Funny how many people are passing judgments over its flexibility and scalability without using it…

Er, to clarify, I meant that I wonder at what point someone would outgrow MT’s GS product (or similar) and need the scalability of Google App Engine. I’m sure GAE scales farther than almost any other similar product, but I’d like to know for how many companies that’s relevant.

@Gleb – Since when do webhosts support 3rd-party apps? The hosts I’ve worked with are good at killing borked processes from 3rd-party apps, but that’s about it.

Didn’t you see where it said “python is the _first_ supported language”?
They said they can support any language, and will add new ones later.

I have programmed in PHP, Python, C#, Java… by far the easiest to learn and most powerful is Python / flexible.

Guido is right, if you are a serious developer the restriction to Python is a non-issue.

Geektronica – if you already have written the app, then why would you use the Google App Engine? You have most likely already tried to solve the problems Google is assisting with.

yawn.

way to be quick with the language, mike… nothing against you in the least.

but as for Google.. yawn.

@#11 Google releasing anything remotely close to supporting PHP would be like Duncan Riley saying something nice about America… it just aint gonna happen (see: Elitist).

A consideration that may be overlooked in some of the comments comparing Amazon and MT is the fact they are offering this for free to developers (up to ~5m pv/mo)..

That, along with the full suite of service APIs (access/identity, etc) seems ideal for a “Startup Weekend” project to further reduce the barrier to entry while building once to scale.

Python just the first supporting language. Google says others will follow

I wish it were Ruby based. Python? I like the AWS agnostic approach..

I’m psyched on it. I just wish it came with a framework like django, then it’d be just like Heroku.

does the google stuff use virtualization? i would like to see a head to head performance comparison, since one of the big AWS complaints is that the virtualization knocks about 30% off performance right out of the gate…and is this going to be one of those cheese-fest interfaces where you upload your code from a webpage and have to monitor it from a webpage? or do you get root? or how’s that work? anybody got any damn scoop around here?!?

I guess it’s time to learn python

@ Henry: Exactly.. The point is the field they are starting to get into – whether it was python, php, or RoR, people would be upset if it didn’t include their language of choice. Who cares – any smart developer can deal with the tools they have at their disposal.

As long as they add other languages, don’t feel like learning python lol.

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I think most people are missing the point of the “PREVIEW RELEASE” tag. It’s an early release used to solicit feedback from a limited number of poeple, so there is no need to put in the extra work required to support more than Python.

They will obviously support a multitude of languages when they launch this publicly (if anybody wants to bet me, I will happily take your money), much as any library supports a multitude of language bindings.

[...] Well, just when I was complaining about Geek Ennui, along comes an announcement about Google App Engine. [...]

This is going to rock!

Python only does kind of suck as a limitation, but it’s not that hard to learn.

Personally, I think Python > PHP, especially in the readability department. Grow some bollocks, guys.

Nice, really.

From the way I understand it (I’m watchin a live feed) Google will have access to a COMPLETE SOURCE CODE of your application!

When you thought that Python only was bad, things get really bad when your potential competitor has access to your source code as well!

On the surface, it does look like a competitor to Amazon’s S3 service. They both offer scalable infrastructure, database access and storage. The direct comparisons seem to end there. Google is offering more of a web interface to the software you develop, as opposed to Amazon’s storage buckets and desktop based apps.

The Google App Engine seems quite proprietary in nature and only uses Python – at least at first – as the scripting language. S3 on the other hand has all sorts of third party apps out there, and it’s even integrated into some popular FTP software packages.

Amazon S3 has the early lead, with many software titles available. Strange though, as it never felt like they got any real traction. In fact, few people I talk to have even heard of S3.

Both Amazon’s S3 and Google’s App Engine will reduce system administration, maintenance, bandwidth and hosting costs. But if programmers embrace Google’s Python only playground while it’s still early in the game, the public’s on-going love affair with the big G, may let it zoom right past contestant number S3.

Python will be a deal breaker for many…

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I find it interesting that Google is the one that opted for a tightly-coupled design, while Amazon choose loosely-coupled. Very cool!

For early stage startups betting on being acquired by the GOOG developing on the Google stack from day 1 is at least one big step towards their dream. ;)

#6 @Tom, #15 @Matt: this is very different from what Amazon is providing, and there are markets for both.

Amazon’s services make it possible for developers not to worry about physical provisioning and deployment of machines; provides raw compute power, storage, and bandwidth essentially on-demand, an improvement over more basic web hosting, at the expense of some loss of “flexibility” (you can’t choose your storage technology, choose AMD vs. Intel, etc.)

As described, GAE is at an even higher level of abstraction, where developers focus on the business logic, with infrastructure/backend services like authentication, storage, and other Google services, already built-in and accessible within the Google network infrastructure via APIs. There is some additional loss of “flexibility” (can’t configure your own binaries) but the simplicity is a great productivity gain for many.

Related, Michael’s note re. “Google App Engine is designed for developers who want to run their entire application stack, soup to nuts, on Google resources” can be easily misread—it’s not that the target developer pool want to run their entire app stack on Google per se. It’s that they want the simplicity.

@Chris – if you’re a small developer who’s written an app, scalable, hassle-free hosting is never a problem that’s completely solved when you run your own hardware. I thought GAE was targeted at people who need scalable app hosting; if so, making them use Python is a barrier for a lot of them, not because they can’t learn Python, but because they may not have been using it up to this point in their dev process.

If it’s a temporary limitation, though, great. Exciting to see what comes next. But let’s remember that Gmail is still in beta.

@33: Your tinfoil hat is too small.

P Y T H O N is only to begin with ! Other languages will also be supported ! Read to the end of the article !

…. so, they already have your search, your email, your ads, your website metrics, your cookies etc – and now you’re being silly enough to let them have your source/project. I just can’t comprehend why? Because it’s Google and it’s free!? People, WTF!

@42: Careful man, they can hear you through the radios in your fillings.

This is the right idea. You see, websites are like TV shows- they last for 2-5 years and go out of fashion. It is wasteful to build up a hardware infrastructure to host a disposable (possibly junk) show- Myspace, Friendster, facebook. After all, TV stations do not buy hardware and TV towers to specifically host say Baywatch. So this is a right move for Google and Amazon, to build up this hardware so that this disposable worthless junk can just change smoothly, but still run on the same servers.

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C’mon Google, this is just like a hosted version of ‘facebook apps’ on google. It is apparent that Opensocial isn’t picking up as quickly as facebook apps. iGoogle is also uninteresting. I feel Google is very much following the same proprietary approach of the Apple iPhone SDK. This is not even comparable to Amazon’s computing cloud .

@Evan (40, 42): Dude, its amazing how fast you’re at responding to legitimate privacy concerns with your half-baked, slashdot-esque “tinfoil hat” & “radio filling” bullshit arguments!

it a very good product.

its post 9PM PST and the link is still dead!

The link is http://appengine.google.com/
And it is LIVE now.

Anyone manage to get in right away or are they waitlisting everybody?

Live and some of their other links inside it are broken (or were a moment ago).

I’m on the “waiting list”. Let’s see what it can do if I can get in. Gives me reason to play with Python more.

[...] also learned for the first time that Google uses Python internally for its scripting. I guess that could explain all of the Google Python developer ads that keep popping up in my gmail [...]

Did they really hit 10k that fast??????

[...] but Google App Engine may be good for developers writing new Python-based apps – especially, as this TC commenter points out, they want to get bought out by [...]

Argh, no way it hit 10k that fast.

/me blames this articles wrong link. :o

I was in at 9:09 and got waitlisted.

Anyone confirmed in?

Python only. What a weird decision. Not business and community-friendly at all.

I just think that Python should be a start. If it is not the case, I can say that poor Google

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Nice move TechCrunch for giving the wrong url.
All of the content on TechCrunch has as much truth to it
as the the link you had??????
Whow It’s like reading something on the m$ website…

Good to see the Python expertise is on tap, anyway — having the BDFL on board will likely ensure compatibility with best Python practice. A drift away from standard usage could have horrible after effects.

I wonder if they’re planning a UDDI interface; could resurrect this part of the original web services spec and give peeps a smart link to the WS provider’s info.

Guido + the ultimate botnet. Interesting possibilities. Rossum’s Universal Robots perhaps?

kinda bumbed there was not more to this – its a another me to from Big G – of course we have to wait and see, maybe there some killer features like in gMail – but I seem to feel like yawning at most google news these days. The product does have lots of potential and is a space i can see google being very strong in, but as of now, it seems rather restrictive instead of empowering.

High hope that the App Engine will turn out to be a good one… :p

Also, since Google App Engine doesn’t support writing to disk, some libraries that support this and other functionalities are only partially enabled.

Has anyone gotten in yet?! This is the important thing for me haha.

* Libraries that maintain databases on disk are not enabled in Python for Google App Engine
* Sockets are disabled with Google App Engine
* The system does not allow you to invoke subprocesses, as a result some os module methods are disabled
* Threading is not available
*
* For security reasons, most C-based modules are disabled
* Other features that are limited:
o marshal is disabled
o cPickle is aliased to pickle
o System calls have been disabled

Please keep in mind that third party packages which use any of the above features will not function with Google App Engine (packages such as mysql, postgresql, etc).

with all these limitations this is definitely not for startups, but for fun projects which u can develop and hope something comes out of it(just like FB applications)

This is really going to drive up adoption of python:

http://blog.blist.com/index.php/2008/04/07/look-out-ruby-here-comes-python/

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Sweet. Got this response to a post about accounts on the AppEngine forum:

The 10k limit has not been reached yet. Everyone gets the wait-list
message when they sign up and we’ll be enabling accounts on a rolling basis.

Tom
Product Manager, Google

Nik: nice find.

I signed up at 9:10 pm PST, and I was wait listed. Grrrr…

OMG ERROR LOOOL …

Traceback (most recent call last):
File “/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/__init__.py”, line 484, in __call__
handler.get(*groups)
File “/base/data/home/apps/appgallery/1.8/appgallery.py”, line 90, in get
app = db_models.Applications.get(self.request.get(‘app_id’))
File “/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/__init__.py”, line 720, in get
results = get(keys)
File “/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/__init__.py”, line 945, in get
keys, multiple = datastore.NormalizeAndTypeCheckKeys(keys)
File “/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/datastore.py”, line 117, in NormalizeAndTypeCheckKeys
keys = [_GetCompleteKeyOrError(key) for key in keys]
File “/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/datastore.py”, line 1431, in _GetCompleteKeyOrError
key = Key(arg)
File “/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/datastore_types.py”, line 145, in __init__
raise datastore_errors.BadKeyError(‘Invalid string key %s.’ % encoded)
BadKeyError: Invalid string key .

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Whew! Thanks Nik! I was waitlisted and I thought – WTF??? They just *can’t* have got 10k users when it’s only just 10!!!!

Now I know, I may have a chance to get in!!!!

btw, anyone know what the time is now? I live in AU and don’t know what america / google runs on.

Thanks!

Google in essence has made another play for web monopoly. Not only does Google want to own your content, now they wish to own your content, code, logs, hosting.. You’re to tie your application to a proprietary API with Google-only solution. It’s a fully locked in solution with the only benefit as not having to do it yourself. Really absolutely nothing for a startup or the real developer, by the way they deleted my last comment because I guess they felt I was trolling. But I seriously don’t think any serious developer would consider such a badly locked in solution seriously. It’s just another attempt to expand their monopoly, does it add some benefit, yes, but the detriment of increasing the Google monopoly far outweighs the little benefit this this stack provides. The only way I would even consider using it would be if Google was to Open Source the stack, seeing as they are not, I really can’t consider using this as a serious web developer.

This is great news for a lot of startups; one less thing to worry about. It’s almost becoming possible to launch an ambitious web service with zero capital.

And the other great thing is, maybe now Microsoft will try to enter in this space as well, which would create some healthy competition. Commodification of web hardware/infrastructure was a long time coming.

I got waitlisted and it said it was full. Nik says that’s not the case. It would be much better if there was more clarity on the limit. Is that because Google wants to vette the developers to make sure they have a python app ready to go?…Mine is in php…where does the php line start?:)

Google Reads My Mind (Again)…

I found your entry interesting do I’ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)…

Well … let it mature for a few years and then we will see. I think that lack of flexibility will be the adoption killer. I am hopeful that Google will evolve this into a full blown “real” cloud.

Yes it is a pity it’s not OSS, but we can’t have everything. The one thing that makes this worthwhile, is that google has a track record of reliability – both honesty and scalability – which means they’re unlikely to suddenly become unavailable when you need the service. And Python *is* OSS!

p.s. Anyone have the info on whether this thing is accepting regos yet?

Just got an invite…

@David Webb: Yes, so far of its 3 years life as a public company it has such a track record — though one which has plenty of little blemishes. As the company matures and opportunities are harder to come by, I’ll wait and see if anything changes. It’s true that python is open source, but if you write any app for this platform, you will have to make significant changes to deploy it elsewhere. Also, the limitations will force developers to plug it in to existing Google infrastructure, further making it more difficult to deploy it elsewhere. Someone would have to spend considerable effort to make sure their code was portable. So all-in-all for any serious business or startup that wishes to make real money, such a solution really doesn’t make any sense. Will Google buy you if you build on their platform, I seriously doubt it considering that they already have your code, and your user base already. Yeah, all the naive developers that only think in code might buy-in, but any serious business person would think about 10 times before agreeing to such a locked in offer. What Amazon is offering right now is much more useful to real developers than this little toy that Google has offered. Yeah the bandwidth is free, but if you can’t store files, I don’t see the point, considering how little bandwidth small websites take to serve… If it’s serious business you can afford the few thousand it costs to host with a real host.

oops, Rails derailed by goog

I’m confirmed. Write to me if you’re a Python dev and want to help:)

No way I’m giving my users to Google by requiring my users to use Google accounts!

I am really amazed to read so many mixed reactions.:) Anyways I am trying it out. Hopefully It fulfills my expectation.

@GQ: Yes, I do see your point. Personally, I’ll enjoy playing around with the service, but as of yet I’m not quite sure how useful it would be to my business anyway. Google, actually, as part of it’s reputation, has a record of releasing products “half-baked” – that is, stable, reliable, and useless. I hope this will see an increase of features, but right now I’d say it’s a great hobby tool – if I ever get my hands on an account! :)

@all the python-as-non-starter commentators: Did you catch the following sentenance in the last paragraph:

“Google says that Python is just the first supported language, and that the entire infrastructure is designed to be language neutral.”

Definitely agree with GQ. Google is at the checkpoints of everything online and too much power and control in one single entity ain’t good.

Hmmm…Google with Python to rule the world. We really need more flexibility. Their is a greater audience out there. Unless Google wants a small audience instead. What do I know? I am just a computer guy.

[...] Google just launched a new service, Google AppEngine. Google App Engine lets you run your web applications on Google’s infrastructure. App Engine applications are easy to build, easy to maintain, and easy to scale as your traffic and data storage needs grow [...]

Remember, this is a preview version. Don’t expect it to be all that cool, just a concept at this stage.

I just got my account!!!! :) Time to start playing……

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I wouldn’t personally care Google becoming monopoly(Im conerned but not that much) just like global warming.
Im more concerned about its stupid limitations(no disk write,no threading etc). Im wiling to pay more to not have these limitations. And also the fact, that using all google apis, Im tied to them and cant move elsehwere seemlessly unlike AWS. I’ll vote for AWS for now but I keep an eye on wat Google does to thier Appengine

@65 Nik – Nice find. I signed up right away and got the darned wait-list message too. Based on your message I’m hopeful we can still get in to experiment with this. It seems unlikely they would have 10K sign ups within minutes!?

I also think the Python limitation is strange. The promise that you can scale your apps up is going to attract a lot of developers though. And like @37 Daniel pointed out, startups who want to get acquired by Google might look at this as a good way to go.

Anyway, time to go read up on Python :)

Google released as Python first because thats what they use in house. That’s what already works for them.

To deploy in other languages will require extra work.

As for Ruby on Rails, nobody else has been able to scale it easily out of the box so what makes you think Google can.

Another waitlisted commenter. Although did get to download the googapp SDK for OS X and it looks like fun. I’m going to have to brush up on my python though – time for a trip to the library (Mon 2-7, TW 11-8, ThSa 10-6, Su 1-5) so I won’t have to actually _buy_ a python book. The comment about requiring google logins for users is interesting – rare books, email and now cloud services all with a single login.

woohoo:

Thanks for signing up to try Google App Engine! Your account has been activated, so you can begin building applications!

This is a big push for Python by Google…

I went through the Getting Started docs: http://notes.appspot.com
Took about 10 mins to get through it.

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Welcome to GeoCities 2008 !

Just got the invite. This should be fun!

Leave it to the “php-script kiddies” to jump to conclusions, and pay no attention to the fact that it is python-only for now.

i just shat my pants

py-what?

The official video of the event is now up: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Ztr-HhWX1c — it’s a lot better quality than the ones I shot.

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The killer feature is django support. http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/django.html.

Sounds like another typical Google product. A me too, half assed solution, that comes with no privacy that doesn’t even come close to what people were expecting.

i signed up 30 minutes ago but i got the invite . Yes!!!! .

It looks great and with python support its gonna be uber

This sounds like it’s somewhere between AWS and Heroku (which is built on AWS)

This does support Django as the main framework, though with lots of limitations. i.e. no filesystem access, no sockets, no threads, time limit on requests, etc. All the limitations you’d expect from a managed hosting solution. I believe Heroku has some of these limitations too.

Got the environment up and running. Got the sample stuff going in my account.

Pretty nice. It’s got a lower dollar cost of entry than AWS (EC2+S3+SimpleDB) for getting something small out. Those are cheap to dabble with, but to keep a service running full time on EC2 has a minimum cost — much like a dedicated host. Also much like a dedicated host, AWS services are more flexible with the environment and tools.

But for free I could get a small, python based service out tonight – although the sample guest book will have to be enough. :)

Mike (and Scobleizer): thanks for the coverage and information… the preview here was quite comprehensive.

Sounds interesting. We haven’t dabbled with Python at all, but it might make sense to have a go now. Of course, when Google introduce PHP support, I’m sure that’s when the App Engine will really take off.

All in all, though, it sounds like a great opportunity.

Another good from Google.

What will Microsoft do…

This is a very tricky situation for Microsoft. As with Live services, Microsoft is not only eating up there own business, but is also moving into there (loyal) partner channel. There are at least a “trillion” hosting providers that are seeing there business dry up in the future. In 5 years, hosting in a cloud will be mainstream and dedicated rack space shall be deemed to niches.

Nobody can blame Opens Source systems, there was no partner program and anybody that uses Open Source has had a great ride on it (for free). But for the Microsoft offering things are a bit different. I cannot imagine that Microsoft can keep all there hosting and SaaS partners happy and be a proper competitor for Google and Amazon.

The bet is on… What will sort of hybrid will they introduce?

wondering whats in for google. just making thier platform more std by getting the applications hosted on thier platform?
like an OS for the web?
good idea, but short term revenue is not there?

The Google App Engine platform provides:
* hosting on a free subdomain, or your own domain name

wonder if these subdomains might be of any value ..

interest

A nice touch by Google. Although not soo good for many developers.
For one, restricting to Python only is a killer for many developers even though more languages will be added later, i would seriously doubt that they would support any .Net infrastructure or language.

As for people’s comment about developer to learn a new language, it depends on what you would like to learn and specialize in (Jack of all trades and Master of None). I am a .Net professional and would like to excel in the .Net platform, including Compact framework for resource constrained device. I also like to play a bit with J2ME, Java, and Sybase.

Secondly, having your most valuable source code on Google’s server. NAAAHH! I would’nt want to, they are beginning to pry toooo much.

Thirdly, in any architecture, i believe, flexibility is very important and so is the ability of the developer to communicate with different platforms. Google’s restrictions do not favor any serious multiplatform application developer and for startups the efforts would be too much. So i am not sure who they are trying to target here?

Lastly, its only free for now but later on, any company who will be hosting on google’s platform will be required to pay. And i think it would be far cheaper and better for any company deploying applications on the google’s server in the long term to have their own architecture in place plus using their own arcitecture would give them flexibilty, control over their apps, and definitely scalable.

Not for me and i am sure many others.

i like to try, but only problem is I do not know python. do they have any plans to support PHP or Java? My friend is a great fan of python. I should seek his help.

what is python, anyway?

Did anyone read the last paragraph in the above post. Google said that they designed this to be language neutral, and that at the moment, it is only offering to allow Python apps. Plus, this is just the “beta” state. They said that they opened things up to get feedback from users (look for the videos they published from the campfire talks to Youtube). I am pretty sure that support for other languages will come in the future.

The Python limitation is (for now) anyone going to be a killer for many. Python or not is a religious issue for many developers that’s pretty much as important as emacs vs. vi… But it’s the API limitations that’ll keep me away.

There’s no way I’d tie my apps to APIs that are not open and that I don’t even get a fully working copy of in case they suddenly decide what I do isn’t “desirable” (what if you compete with one of their current or future products, and they won’t host you anymore?), or in case you get acquired by one of their competitors (Yahoo, AOL or MS wanting to buy you if your app requires Google’s infrastructure to run? good luck) or they massively change their prices or puts restrictions on it you can’t live with.

I don’t particularly like EC2, but I’d pick EC2 over this any day despite the cost – while you can certainly paint yourself into a corner with EC2 as well, the limitations are far less onerous (S3, their DB and queueing services etc. are at least optional) and their APIs are simple enough to be relatively easy to clone if you depend on them but need to move away sometime in the future.

Google has:

- your search,
- your email,
- your ads,
- your website metrics,
- your cookies,
- your videos (also with YouTube),
- your blogs
- etc. etc. etc.

The list is growing every day!

If you want them to have your source code (=project), please be so stupid and go ahead.

Python or not is a religious issue for many developers that’s pretty much as important as emacs vs. vi… But it’s the API limitations that’ll keep me away.

Google never stops to amaze me. I think the world is becoming better with Google’s innovative products and services.

dont take it seriously – it is for home grown developers rather than businesses as still very immature – GOOGs may have to rethink about its strategy, if really want to become serious in enterprise business.

kinda wonder if google doesn’t have some cool way to scan through more questionable programs written in python… it’s always good to have more power (from their view – regarding the source code)…
that would include your bank links & whatnot, right?
google was created with cia seed money (anyone have a definite view of alice?), and uses the 4 colors; fire, wind, water, earth
715157 le 12 3
6′s and 7′s.. LE = 12*3=36, and 3*7=777; kinda cool in that it’s however you’d wanna see it. to 13 13 or whatnot
anyone paying attention to dates? & what’s ‘Next’? (amero/nau)

Its cool , Its Fast and It Works.

I got a demo ready in under 10 mins

http://lamp.appspot.com/

Is there anything interesting in this post? Saves me reading all the way through it (some of us have work to do :) )

Take a look at my post on cloud computing:

http://deftlabs.com/2008/04/gazing-into-the-clouds/

http://www.tech-exposed.com

Damn, I cant get in

Waitlisted.

Isn’t this an obvious way for Google total domination? Google has access to source code, data, user accounts – practically every aspect of the app, hosted on it’s platform. The more popular this service will become, the bigger chunk of the Internet will be fully controlled by Google. Well, it looks cool, but… rather scary!

I think this launch just killed gmail. I haven’t been able to get to the site for 30 mins now.

For lovers of red:
Http://www.redle.it
Full red Google

Yeah I got the waitlist, but I’m glad to hear that they’re doing rolling admissions to the party anyway. I doubt they’ve got their 10,000 overnight (US time). But they’ll hit that pretty quickly I’d imagine.

Database support in both S3 and Google are lacking.

From the Bigtable whitepaper:
Bigtable does not support a full relational data model; instead, it provides clients with a simple data model that supports dynamic control over data layout and format, and allows clients to reason about the locality properties of the data represented in the underlying storage. Data is indexed using row and column names that can be arbitrary strings.

Why are these “scripting” languages? It’s not called Google Script Engine, is it?

Can we drop this retarded qualifier for the high-level languages, now?

I’m sure python-only is a *security* issue for the moment and having the language expert helps promote it. Another typical google launch, no clue what users/customers want, just put it out there and see what happens.

I just hope this isn’t beta forever.

500MB of persistent storage is good. Unfortunately, account registrations of preview release are limited to the first 10,000 developers only.

Google Apps Engine is competing not only with amazon services… but facebook I would say.

Take a look facebook users needed a facebook login to access to the applications hosted on facebook. Now each of us have a gmail account right? Soon you will have access to any kinds of applications that you like using it. No more facebook – gmail is enought for communication. Bottomline: by providing the infrastructure Google is competing with Facebook apps – could be a real killer.

403 Over Quota error on http://appengine.google.com/.

Pretty funny.

Just got the invite. This should be fun :-)

I’ll check back in a year or so… Maybe by then this service will be worthy of my attention…

Most people developing for this will not get the benefits of google’s ability to scale because for now this will mostly be playground apps. If you use something like Applogic from 3tera, you can scale real apps and not rewrite any code.

For those of you who keep pointing out that Python is only the “first” language, have you never seen this played out before? All of the samples will be coded in Python first. The other language samples will usually have multiple flaws. The primary language always dominates. That’s just the way it goes. (e.g. Facebook and PHP)

This seems so very much like dark days of the Microsoft OS monopoly. Who can forget the memories of; stifled competition, and price fixing. In this case Google does the arm twisting AND knuckle cracking by dropping the pricing of a service to free. Goolge is using the advantage of massive scale built on the backs of consumers and media to choke the life out of them and any competitor.

Do we now face a world where all apps are run on the google platform and coded to their specifications. Have we forgotten what happened to Borland, Netscape, and Novel.

Make no bones about it; Google is trying to be the next OS at any cost. If they go on this path unchallenged we will see the snuffing out of a vibrant industry that was once the home of rebels that believed in the possibilities and the freedom of choice.

It is also clear that Google is the biggest danger to Open Source software that we have ever seen.
Where is the cloud/OS for those of us that want a choice and don’t think its a good idea for one company to own the very life of the internet.

We at adelph.us will be launching an alternative

“You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.”

“You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. Remember — all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.”

from the Matrix written by Andy Wachowski & Larry Wachowski

Hey nice article man………..

Google trying to catch up.
This time is Amazon.

Like my friend Johnnie Walker might say, keep following..

Wonderful. Google is making life so easier for all the developers.

Tina
http://www.ekhichdi.com

I consider it yet another great initiative from Google. Maybe there comes a day we won’t need OS at all – just a browser to connect to the Internet and use the software which is provided as a service. Google just made a significant step towards that!

This is a really good start. Most of the API looks like taken directly from Django project. And if the promise of scalability holds up this is a great tool to reach wide audience.

The only limitation i see is the user accounts need to be google accounts. It means developer projects will contribute to more google accounts. This could be a good thing for the users, but the developers who want to sell their apps will have no leverage based on user accounts.

if google owns your users, content and code, what do you own?

Very cool. The cost of running a startup has almost all but been eliminated. This gives me an idea for a X Prize: “Create a profitable web startup completely using free (preferrably Google) technology and no costs (initial, fixed, or variable).”

0) Come up with an idea for a web app
1) Get someone to donate you a laptop
2) Install your favorite Linux distro and free and/or open-source apps (OpenOffice, GIMP)
3) Find a free WiFi hotspot as your “place of business” (bonus points if it’s run by Google, and 2X bonus if it’s on Google campus)
3) Get a domain name (the only exception on expense. bought domain names are allowed as long as they are < $10)
4) Setup your GMail, calendar, docs using Google Apps
5) Build your app using Google App Engine and Big Table using Python
6) Add Google Adsense
7) Launch!

The winner of the challenge will be the first to $1M in annual revenue, or be bought by Google. Whichever comes first.

Great introduction but limiting itself to Python is crazy. What are the other supported languages. Any ideas? The Campfire presentations related to Google App Engine states , they welcome developers feedback but they do not say where to send our comments.

The Google will dominate the world.

This is going to be very useful for early stage projects, entry cost = $0. You can always then migrate to more robust platforms as Amazon.

But if this really a simple hosting platform with scalable features it’s going to be a killer hosting solution for the potential 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 small business and enthusiasts websites out there.

This feels more like free hosting for small websites…

@46 et al.

You own your data. You provide Google royalty-free access to it only for the purposes of serving (according to their Terms of Service).

We may live in an age of legalese, but person-to-person fair dealing still makes the world go around. If Google burns its reputation by snooping through app data inappropriately, they will lose trust and users will flee. That’s enough for me to trust them with my data.

It’s not clear from the Google documents how BigTable relates to Google App Engine. App Engine has its own Datastore API — inevitably with its own variation of SQL called GQL [groan] — that looks different from BigTable.

…and Python-only may be a little odd, but at least it’s not PHP-only — PHP being the biggest mess in web development.

Very good, i love Google, i love TechCrunch :”)

It was easy to hook my existing googlepage there !!

http://winak777.googlepages.com/

Yes, Python-only is a temporary limitation, other languages will be added later, for the umpteenth time. If you *must* write PHP, just sit tight for a while. Meanwhile, you might have a look at http://diveintopython.org; you might actually learn something.

*Very* nice that it supports Django. That pretty much eliminates the concerns about Google lock-in; just write to Django rather than Google’s native API, and you can move to any other Django server later if you feel the need. Recovering the data may be another matter; but I’ll bet someone somewhere is already working on a way to import/export between BigTable and S3.

Seems like a good place for open source projects…
Free is always good, but usually followed by unwanted ads.

I think that the key is that any really good application created here will be bought by Google, and they will pay a very good price. This will allow Google to grow even faster.

Google has offered a lot of services for free, and eventually every person in the world will be able to do almost anything with a cheap computer and a broadband connection.
A teen-ager in a third world country could create a multinational corporation and run it from a grass hut…
Get all of the schooling you need through a $100 computer…

Changes like this are devastating.

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This is exciting, glad to see some competition in the Cloud area. Amazon has certainly pushed the envelope, but google has the clout to roll this out to all their datacenters and reduce customer latency through local deployments! Great for the industry to have tow such large titans in the same sphere.

I’m amazed at how well it integrates with Django. The datastore model API seems a little awkward, though; Django has pretty much weaned me off SQL so I’d rather not spend too much time with GQL.

For those who are interested, I just wrote a short tutorial on how to get Django up and running on the App Engine:

http://blog.broxrost.com/index.php/2008/04/08/django-on-google-app-engine/

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I’m not so sure I like the worldwide, royalty-free license to my content and application that I would be granting google in exchange for app hosting.

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Web apps YUCK

Someone really needs to explain to me what has happened in the world to change it so much that developers would wet themselves at the chance to be tied to a specific API and language and not be able to port their app if requirements change or service is subpar.

David Stone
wrote:
>@DaveS, I disagree. The low entry barrier level on PHP has caused most PHP
>developers to lack understanding, where-as I’m yet to meet a Python developer
>who isn’t insanely smart & with a high understanding of technical concepts.
Either you left off the sarcasm tag here or you really haven’t met too many python developers. Python has more than its fair share of rabid fanboys who try to make up for the paucity of their technical understanding by parroting Guido and company. You’ll find that Python is not the elite club that you imagine it to be, the bar to entry is really low (at least as low as PHP’s). The reason people avoid it is not because they’re not ‘insanely smart’ enough for it, but rather, they realise there is nothing new in Python save a syntax which is more than a little unpleasant to work with on any project with more than a screen’s worth of code.

>
>Sure, it’ll put some people off, but really if a developer is scared off by learning a
>new programming language should it solve the problem well I’d argue the
>developer isn’t much of a developer in the first place.
There isn’t a problem solved by Python here, its an artificial restriction placed on developers by Google for no reason other than unwillingness to consider other languages other than the one they bought. Google creates the ‘problem’, and Python ‘solves’ it, how convenient. If Google’s appengine only supported Perl ‘for now’, you really think you wouldn’t be calling for immediate ‘Python support’ and railing against ‘Perl’s horrible syntax’?

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well it sounds like a nice deal to me, even considering i don’t know anything
about Python … on the other hand, if Google is to provide same for PHP it
would be massive strike on all other hosting companies at cost that NONE of
them can compete with … i’m sure Google is aware of that and will not try to
push others from bussines (yet) !

@Cyndi Aleo = indeed … costs ? automatic index and high ranking (i guess so) ? seems like people lost their mind and became too greedy to even understand term FREEDOM OF CHOICE so they rush into cage willingly …

Monopoly – A situation in which a single company owns all or nearly all of the market for a given type of product or service.

For the good of all developers just say “NO”.

Your intellectual property is valuable!

Alpha, Beta, Dead. Don’t waste your time!

Is it me, or does everyone really NOT see that this is JUST a hosting platform?

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JUST ? No.1 search engine and online advertising company, you forgot that ?
are you even aware that Google owns 3rd fastest computer on this planet,
which is growing faster than any else ? with their income and cheap but effective scalability of thier system it’s not hard to imagine Internet = Google

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From @160 – “worldwide, royalty-free license to my content and application that I would be granting google in exchange for app hosting” – Google are essentially out sourcing part of their future application development to the public.

what is this dependency on Python???.Also do these guys want us to adopt the entire stack unlike Amazon there by tying us to them…

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If you’re interested in a much more open platform for cloud apps, take a look at Kogbox.com. Invitation only, but try:

http://www.kogbox.com

http://www.kogbox.com/account/signup/92d6205f1fd031b57df611fa1a89b814

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Just got a “500 Server error” when trying the application (see http://www.coachwei.com/blog/_archives/2008/4/8/3628305.html). Guess we have to wait for a year or so to see how this is going.

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Something tells me if this project succeeds, Google will start selling hosted apps in its GoogleDocs web space. AppEngine users will be able to rent their applications to customers (businesses) already using google docs.

This will help greatly especially as Salesforce’s AppExchange is getting more confusing and expensive for starters

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Has anybody else noticed that GAE’s Datastore API bears a close logical resemblance to the W3C’s Resource Description Framework (RDF)? The Semantic Web initiative began with and builds on RDF. From the Datastore API overview (http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/datastore/overview.html):

“The App Engine scalable datastore stores and performs queries over data objects, known as entities. An entity has one or more properties, named values of one of several supported data types. A property can be a reference to another entity, to create one-to-many or many-to-many relationships.”

My Google AppEngine + YUI + ADsense mashup

http://lamp.appspot.com/

So I’m not a “real” developer… Keeping that in mind, what could someone actually build in this that would be useful?

* For example, could someone build something like Photoshop Live?
* Or what about a complete e-commerce platform?
* Could someone write a better free e-mail/PIM tool (something like a solid version of Outlook with integrated calender, chat/sms, VOIP, etc.)?

Is this one of those “the sky’s the limit” kind of things, or one of those “that ceiling right there is the limit” kind of things?

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So it’s true – the world does only need five computers

google.cn
google.eu
google.us
google.ru
google.es

PHP is going to be next:

http://i-want-php.appspot.com/

:)

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The Why…

  On Apr. 7, 2008, the ever great google reveals world’s biggest secret that she is ready to host any kind of web application in ……

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This is a test.

how powerful Google is?

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=659&tag=nl.e101

nah, damn links … forget it, lol

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Google App Engine – Repeating history…

…

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thanks

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you can also run code developed with a high level framework like web2py on the appengine.
Here is an example

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will be great if they extend it to PHP and other languages..

oops.. I need to wait for a invite :(

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I have my apps with google now and it makes it much more convenient

como me hago una web..? o me la mando hacer…?
la berdad es que me cree una en http://www.iguanahostin.com, tremenda pagina !!! pero quiero algo para comerciar y esa quedo muy fina para malgastarla comerciando. espero su respuestas y espero que me recomienden algo bueno..!

Hm… I bet this would be kinda expensive when released full version. I wonder why they don’t use something familiar like PHP.

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nice job

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Hey
great post!

I agree that Google App Engine has some limitations but I still believe that its a great move by the search giant.

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If your looking for a quick tutorial on getting up an running with Google App Engine, check out http://www.squidoo.com/Google-App-Engine

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[...] a juicy rumor (if you’re a geek, this is good stuff): A source tells us that Google AppEngine, a platform for building and hosting web applications in the cloud, will begin letting developers [...]

[...] a juicy rumor (if you’re a geek, this is good stuff): A source tells us that Google AppEngine, a platform for building and hosting web applications in the cloud, will begin letting developers [...]

[...] Google is retentive digit of its irregular “Campfire One” events for developers on Apr 7. These events, which are held right on the lawn at Google Headquarters, hit ever included bounteous creation announcements in the past. At a May 2008 Campfire One Google declared info of Friend Connect. A period before that, in April 2008, Google declared App Engine. [...]

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[...] In: web resources 27 Mar 2009 Hello there! If you are new here, you might want to subscribe to the RSS feed for updates on this topic.Powered by WP Greet BoxGoogle is holding one of its occasional “Campfire One” events for developers on April 7. These events, which are held outside on the lawn at Google Headquarters, have always included big product announcements in the past. At a May 2008 Campfire One Google announced details of Friend Connect. A month before that, in April 2008, Google announced App Engine. [...]

[...] a juicy rumor (if you’re a geek, this is good stuff): A source tells us that Google AppEngine, a platform for building and hosting web applications in the cloud, will begin letting developers [...]

[...] is getting some major national exposure for both its AppEngine platform and Google Moderator, a simple tool that helps groups determine which questions should be [...]

[...] They’re also happy to invest along side other venture firms and strategic partners. No other commercial arrangement, such as a partnership, is required (so no, you don’t have to build your service on App Engine). [...]

[...] They’re also happy to invest along side other venture firms and strategic partners. No other commercial arrangement, such as a partnership, is required (so no, you don’t have to build your service on App Engine). [...]

[...] They’re also happy to invest along side other venture firms and strategic partners. No other commercial arrangement, such as a partnership, is required (so no, you don’t have to build your service on App Engine). [...]

[...] Ils seront également prêts à investir en aux cotés d’autres sociétés d’investissements et pas de partenariats avec  Google requis (pas besoin par exemple de construire un service sur App Engine). [...]

[...] App Engine turned one year old today – they launched the service, which lets developers build web applications on Google’s infrastructure, on April 7 [...]

[...] App Engine turned one year old today – they launched the service, which lets developers build web applications on Google’s infrastructure, on April 7 [...]

[...] App Engine turned one year old today – they launched the service, which lets developers build web applications on Google’s infrastructure, on April 7 [...]

[...] App Engine turned one year old today – they launched the service, which lets developers build web applications on Google’s infrastructure, on April 7 [...]

[...] Been A Good Year. April 7th, 2009 Google App Engine turned one year old today – they launched the service, which lets developers build web applications on Google’s infrastructure, on April 7 [...]

[...] App Engine turned one year old today – they launched the service, which lets developers build web applications on Google’s infrastructure, on April 7 [...]

[...] Google Jumps Head First Into Web Services With Google App Engine [...]

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[...] App Engine turned one year old today – they launched the service, which lets developers build web applications on Google’s infrastructure, on April 7 [...]

[...] your online news reading this morning-in which case we thank you-you’ve probably noticed the buzz surrounding Google’s launch of Google App [...]

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Just another move in Google’s master plan to take over the planet! :-)

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[...] as a service product for Java applications – basically, the easiest way to think about it is Google App Engine for Java applications (or Heroku for Ruby on Rails applications)., Java is still extremely popular [...]

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