You give this group far too much credit by suggesting they have any power at all since the only real players, Google and Amazon, aren’t participating. WS-I was a stinking pile of committee design, as it had to be, given its process and participants. This open cloud nonsense won’t even rise to that level.

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I’m not a big Reuven fan, but the Manifesto is simply nothing more than a statement of principles. Ones that already largely apply to the Internet.

Getting hot and bothered about a restatement of general Internet principles as if they were some de-facto standard handed to us via back room deals by some kind of evil overlords is the worst kind of demagoguery.

The original posting by Steve Martin was a bit over the top and so is this one.

Yes, Enomaly and others should have opened the discussion up. Yes, there is a disconnect between their stated position and how they went through their process.

But shrill alarmist blog postings don’t move the discussion forward either.

–Randy Bias
VP Tech Strategy
GoGrid

Ps. Yes, I have my own WS-* battle scars.

For this we need the Open Cloud Manifesto Manifesto (yes you read that right!)

Each time this strategy has been played out by vendors outsiders come up with new innovative technology and route around this effing bulllshit.

(That was sarcasm for you low brow folks)

It sickens me that the make-a-buck greedy corporate-locusts now swarm on social media for their next big feast, and have already begun the wordsmithing to create all sorts of new terminology – “cloud computing” and whatever else they can think up.

This committee should be disbanded and a new one formed, and all the participants of the secret meetings should be barred from the new committee.

As far as committees and committee rules go, this is an ethical lapse of the highest order.

Understand your concern, I honestly share it, but I get the impression all is not what it seems.

Take a look at the OMG Cloud Interop workshop agenda earlier this week:
http://www.omg.org/news/meetings/tc/agendas/dc-09/Cloud_Interoperability_Workshop-Agenda.pdf

Reuven didn’t mention the manifesto in his talk, and I was frankly surprised that he implies on his blog that he’s championing it – that’s not the impression I got.

I dont think anyone’s claiming “adding MS” was about making it a mob, I’m saying that someone is lying. Ruv claims MS was invited early on, and by their post, certainly it seems they were invited, and chose to fire back instead of actually working within whatever group solicited them.