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	<title>Comments on: Web 2.0 This Week (July 10 &#8211; 16)</title>
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		<title>By: America - H1B Visa - H1B Jobs - Work in America - USA Work Permit - Green Card - H1 Visa - US Work Visa - Immigration USA - H1B - H1-B - H-1B - Live in the USA - Job in USA - USA VISA - Work in USA &#124; AmericaGlitters</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ken Sheppardson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dMix,

Given that this is TechCrunchIT&#039;s first week, I suppose I&#039;m willing to cut Steve and Nik some slack as they define the scope of what they want to cover. That is, whether they intend to provide news and tactical analysis of existing &quot;products and companies in the Enterprise Technology space&quot; or push things out further and start a discussion on how some of the new consumer apps and mashups will be brought into the enterprise.  Personally, I&#039;m more interested in the latter.

You asked, &quot;Can you give me an example of these feeds that the software would aggregate?&quot;

Sure:

* Most if not all wiki software these days provides an RSS feed of changes. I don&#039;t have adoption stats, but I would certainly think firms outside of Silicon Valley are recognizing the value of the wiki in knowledge capture and collaboration.

* Internal blogs maintained by individuals and teams are a great way to capture project status, keep in sync with team members, and support remote employees. These blogs, of course, provide RSS feeds.

* Providers of document management systems, bug tracking systems, help desk systems, customer service applications, and other knowledge capture applications have certainly recognized the value in providing feeds as a way to distribute information about updates. If they&#039;re not already providing these feeds, I suspect they will be in the next version or two.

There&#039;s also the opportunity to tie all this data together with numerical feeds like vehicle / shippment geolocation data and generate mapping and charting mashups. I&#039;m not sure what feeds logistics services provide, but I suspect they&#039;re coming shortly.

I&#039;d certainly agree with you that adoption of these technologies isn&#039;t moving as quickly as some of us would like, but to some extent I think there&#039;s a chicken-and-the-egg issue: roll-out of these sorts of feeds and feed tech may be slow until employees have systems that can aggregate the infromation, allow an individual to filter by topic or author, and otherwise slice and dice the information the way systems like FriendFeed can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dMix,</p>
<p>Given that this is TechCrunchIT&#8217;s first week, I suppose I&#8217;m willing to cut Steve and Nik some slack as they define the scope of what they want to cover. That is, whether they intend to provide news and tactical analysis of existing &#8220;products and companies in the Enterprise Technology space&#8221; or push things out further and start a discussion on how some of the new consumer apps and mashups will be brought into the enterprise.  Personally, I&#8217;m more interested in the latter.</p>
<p>You asked, &#8220;Can you give me an example of these feeds that the software would aggregate?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure:</p>
<p>* Most if not all wiki software these days provides an RSS feed of changes. I don&#8217;t have adoption stats, but I would certainly think firms outside of Silicon Valley are recognizing the value of the wiki in knowledge capture and collaboration.</p>
<p>* Internal blogs maintained by individuals and teams are a great way to capture project status, keep in sync with team members, and support remote employees. These blogs, of course, provide RSS feeds.</p>
<p>* Providers of document management systems, bug tracking systems, help desk systems, customer service applications, and other knowledge capture applications have certainly recognized the value in providing feeds as a way to distribute information about updates. If they&#8217;re not already providing these feeds, I suspect they will be in the next version or two.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the opportunity to tie all this data together with numerical feeds like vehicle / shippment geolocation data and generate mapping and charting mashups. I&#8217;m not sure what feeds logistics services provide, but I suspect they&#8217;re coming shortly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d certainly agree with you that adoption of these technologies isn&#8217;t moving as quickly as some of us would like, but to some extent I think there&#8217;s a chicken-and-the-egg issue: roll-out of these sorts of feeds and feed tech may be slow until employees have systems that can aggregate the infromation, allow an individual to filter by topic or author, and otherwise slice and dice the information the way systems like FriendFeed can.</p>
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		<title>By: לידיעת היזמים שלא מגיעים למסיבות של פולבר : חדר 404 • הבלוג של עידו קינן</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-307</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] הוא אשר עידן של ההווה. שימו לב לפוסט המאפיין הזה, שמסתובב סביב עצמו ובסוף לא מגיע לשום מקום.   29.06.2008 &#124; [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Съемки &#8220;Терминатора-4&#8243; пройдут без Терминатора</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Съемки &#8220;Терминатора-4&#8243; пройдут без Терминатора]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 06:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Epic Fail Whale &#124; Evil Genius Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Epic Fail Whale &#124; Evil Genius Chronicles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] interesting development is that Steve Gillmor seems to be coming around. He has truly freaked me out in recent weeks by being such a staunch defender of Twitter even as [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: dMix</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-304</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ #7 Ken

&quot;How is that not an emerging technology for the enterprise?

Just because an existing technology could be applied to the enterprise market does not make that technology enterprise software.

I read through the post and don&#039;t see any connection made to a business applications. Consumer and enterprise markets are very different, adoption is slow.

You also mentioned feeds. Can you give me an example of these feeds that the software would aggregate?

The first step would be wide-spread adoption of intranets with RSS, web based communication software with APIs, and other content like project management updates with these enterprises.  But unfortunately those technologies are not yet common outside of silicon valley.  Especially multiple ones to be aggregated.

I&#039;d argue there is a need for the technologies I listed. But right now its too early to say there is a need for a service to aggregate content that is hardly there.

*Hopefully I&#039;m not coming off as an arrogant c-list commenter*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #7 Ken</p>
<p>&#8220;How is that not an emerging technology for the enterprise?</p>
<p>Just because an existing technology could be applied to the enterprise market does not make that technology enterprise software.</p>
<p>I read through the post and don&#8217;t see any connection made to a business applications. Consumer and enterprise markets are very different, adoption is slow.</p>
<p>You also mentioned feeds. Can you give me an example of these feeds that the software would aggregate?</p>
<p>The first step would be wide-spread adoption of intranets with RSS, web based communication software with APIs, and other content like project management updates with these enterprises.  But unfortunately those technologies are not yet common outside of silicon valley.  Especially multiple ones to be aggregated.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d argue there is a need for the technologies I listed. But right now its too early to say there is a need for a service to aggregate content that is hardly there.</p>
<p>*Hopefully I&#8217;m not coming off as an arrogant c-list commenter*</p>
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		<title>By: Twitter&#8217;s weakening pulse &#171; IT Spot</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Twitter&#8217;s weakening pulse &#171; IT Spot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Gillmor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ken

Couldn&#039;t have said it better, and didn&#039;t.]]></description>
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<p>Couldn&#8217;t have said it better, and didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Sheppardson</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Sheppardson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can understand why someone&#039;s first response might be to declare this unrelated to &quot;emerging and existing Enterprise technologies and to analyze their commercial, social, and consumer impacts&quot;, but I&#039;ll go ahead and disagree. I haven&#039;t seen the light, so to speak, on the idea that the Twitter+TinyURL architecture is the backbone for online communication in the future, but I can sure as heck see the potential for FriendFeed or FriendFeed-like services in the enterprise.

If you use FF for a while, I&#039;m sure it wouldn&#039;t be hard to imagine the same service in your company (either installed internally or hosted with the appropriate authentication and authorization features added) aggregating all the feeds from everyone in your workgroup, department, or business. It&#039;s lighter weight than email, provides a public feed similar to an intranet home page, facilitates quick conversations, and is globally accessible. How is that not an emerging technology for the enterprise?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand why someone&#8217;s first response might be to declare this unrelated to &#8220;emerging and existing Enterprise technologies and to analyze their commercial, social, and consumer impacts&#8221;, but I&#8217;ll go ahead and disagree. I haven&#8217;t seen the light, so to speak, on the idea that the Twitter+TinyURL architecture is the backbone for online communication in the future, but I can sure as heck see the potential for FriendFeed or FriendFeed-like services in the enterprise.</p>
<p>If you use FF for a while, I&#8217;m sure it wouldn&#8217;t be hard to imagine the same service in your company (either installed internally or hosted with the appropriate authentication and authorization features added) aggregating all the feeds from everyone in your workgroup, department, or business. It&#8217;s lighter weight than email, provides a public feed similar to an intranet home page, facilitates quick conversations, and is globally accessible. How is that not an emerging technology for the enterprise?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Gillmor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DNS Attack

Yes they did, and in fact Bret Taylor went a little further in a video conversation we had at Supernova: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/18/liveblogging-supernova-liquid-conversations-panel/

I&#039;m confident this is forthcoming, and expect that these talented folks will indeed jump through these hoops in a relative nano-second.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNS Attack</p>
<p>Yes they did, and in fact Bret Taylor went a little further in a video conversation we had at Supernova: <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/18/liveblogging-supernova-liquid-conversations-panel/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/18/liveblogging-supernova-liquid-conversations-panel/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m confident this is forthcoming, and expect that these talented folks will indeed jump through these hoops in a relative nano-second.</p>
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		<title>By: DNS ATTACK</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNS ATTACK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;the lack of real time XMPP&quot;
Didn&#039;t they mention they were looking into developing this on your very own gillmor podcast? I love it when non-developers expect developers to jump though hoops in a nano-second.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the lack of real time XMPP&#8221;<br />
Didn&#8217;t they mention they were looking into developing this on your very own gillmor podcast? I love it when non-developers expect developers to jump though hoops in a nano-second.</p>
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		<title>By: aronski</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aronski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having spent the day with the taste of crow in my mouth and experimenting with Friendfeed, the cracks in the dike are showing today more than ever, it is clear that they are 2 different beasts we are trying to pound into the shape we think we want. Today I spent trying the service totally by mobile platform as I am traveling by land through Europe. The fact that Twitter is so crippled has me using different services (Summize,Twitterberry,gTalk and Friendfeed) to try to keep the conversation going as  we experienced it a little over a month  ago. While Summize provides an after the fact Track and a fast but semi manual stream to follow and gTalk&#039;s one way broadcast inbound in real time( when it functions),it doesn&#039;t replace the 2 way real time experience that gTalk with Track did. Friendfeed&#039;s threads and rooms are very cool features. As are the other ways to shape and filter certain aspects of users multi feed streams but I see Friendfeed as a different tool altogether. It has great promise when more of the users I follow set up (tomorrow maybe?) and FFtogo is a great reader/commenter app  but I think that my other thought may be shared by people: I just want Twitter to work. All the other services will live and die by their usefulness. Twitter when it functioned was something that you could take with you, share as it happened, use to message, get answers, read suggested news and broadcast your experience to whomever would tolerate it. I guess my snobby attitude about Friendfeed has had a slight paradigm shift, thanks to Twitter&#039;s failure. I&#039;d like both, thank you and I hope that comes to pass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having spent the day with the taste of crow in my mouth and experimenting with Friendfeed, the cracks in the dike are showing today more than ever, it is clear that they are 2 different beasts we are trying to pound into the shape we think we want. Today I spent trying the service totally by mobile platform as I am traveling by land through Europe. The fact that Twitter is so crippled has me using different services (Summize,Twitterberry,gTalk and Friendfeed) to try to keep the conversation going as  we experienced it a little over a month  ago. While Summize provides an after the fact Track and a fast but semi manual stream to follow and gTalk&#8217;s one way broadcast inbound in real time( when it functions),it doesn&#8217;t replace the 2 way real time experience that gTalk with Track did. Friendfeed&#8217;s threads and rooms are very cool features. As are the other ways to shape and filter certain aspects of users multi feed streams but I see Friendfeed as a different tool altogether. It has great promise when more of the users I follow set up (tomorrow maybe?) and FFtogo is a great reader/commenter app  but I think that my other thought may be shared by people: I just want Twitter to work. All the other services will live and die by their usefulness. Twitter when it functioned was something that you could take with you, share as it happened, use to message, get answers, read suggested news and broadcast your experience to whomever would tolerate it. I guess my snobby attitude about Friendfeed has had a slight paradigm shift, thanks to Twitter&#8217;s failure. I&#8217;d like both, thank you and I hope that comes to pass.</p>
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		<title>By: marcel weiss</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marcel weiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what the other 2 commenters said.]]></description>
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		<title>By: dMix</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dMix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FriendFeed? I had to check to the about page to make sure I&#039;m on the right blog. Gillmor your a good writer but you chose to write for a blog serving a niche, lets stay on topic.

&quot;TCIT is dedicated to obsessively profiling products and companies in the Enterprise Technology space. TCIT aims to promote an understanding of emerging and existing Enterprise technologies and to analyze their commercial, social, and consumer impacts.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FriendFeed? I had to check to the about page to make sure I&#8217;m on the right blog. Gillmor your a good writer but you chose to write for a blog serving a niche, lets stay on topic.</p>
<p>&#8220;TCIT is dedicated to obsessively profiling products and companies in the Enterprise Technology space. TCIT aims to promote an understanding of emerging and existing Enterprise technologies and to analyze their commercial, social, and consumer impacts.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: OhGodItsGillmor</title>
		<link>http://techcrunch.com/2005/07/16/web-20-this-week-july-10-16/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OhGodItsGillmor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll stick to gigaom.com for serious IT discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll stick to gigaom.com for serious IT discussion.</p>
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